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On the [[Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia]] there is a user who keeps pushing edits that seem to over inflate the intro or unbalance the article. For example one edit is their claim that Genocide is integral to [[Greater Croatia]] ideology. This is unsourced and is wrong, it was an Ustasha ideology based on Nazi Racial Theory which is a sourced fact. This editor is also backed by another editor both of which cannot source their edits and keep edit warring. How does one combat this? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/74.101.190.2|74.101.190.2]] ([[User talk:74.101.190.2|talk]]) 19:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC) |
On the [[Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia]] there is a user who keeps pushing edits that seem to over inflate the intro or unbalance the article. For example one edit is their claim that Genocide is integral to [[Greater Croatia]] ideology. This is unsourced and is wrong, it was an Ustasha ideology based on Nazi Racial Theory which is a sourced fact. This editor is also backed by another editor both of which cannot source their edits and keep edit warring. How does one combat this? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/74.101.190.2|74.101.190.2]] ([[User talk:74.101.190.2|talk]]) 19:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC) |
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::The sourced supplied do not state that Genocide was a requirement or a rule of Greater Croatia ideology as the editors implied. Genocide was an Ustashe idea formed from Nazi Racial Theory. Look at the sources and you will see the sentence wording does not match what the sources say. [[Special:Contributions/74.101.190.2|74.101.190.2]] ([[User talk:74.101.190.2|talk]]) 20:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC) |
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Re: ankete
(Odgovaram na engleskom iz pristojnosti prema ostalima ovdje.)
President Josipović at some point called them the Kukulele koalicija in a derogatory manner during a campaign; to the best of my knowledge, the name didn't catch on generally. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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Your invitation was most gracious and I humbly accept.
Tuvixer 23:41, 4 May 2014
Popular vote
Where are you getting your information about the popular vote for the EP 2014 article? Almost certainly needs to be footnoted. Gabrielthursday (talk) 17:28, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- I started to calculate on my own, and then found out that someone else has done it. You can see that on the french wikipedia article. For control I calculated the popular vote for EPP an S&D to the end and it matches by number, so that other person has done a good job. Tuvixer (talk) 19:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- I think this is helpful information, though perhaps better suited for the election charts than the infobox. Maybe you would like to comment on that. If this is WP:MATH, I think we need to footnote the methodology. Does it count votes for affiliated parties that failed to gain representation? If so, what is the standard for "affiliation", given the oftentimes flexible link between EP party membership and EP group membership? For parties like Romania's PNL that changed affiliation, does it count votes for it as being votes for the EPP or votes for the ALDE (post and pre-election affiliation)? For Fianna Fail, do all its votes count for the ALDE, for the ECR or do Crowley's votes count for the ECR and the rest count for the ALDE? For tranferable-vote jurisdictions, do we count first-preference votes or final-count votes?
- Also, if we're going to have this, we do need a count for the EFDD. Thanks, Gabrielthursday (talk) 19:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- PNL is counted as EPP, Fianna Fail as ECR. Why should it not be in the infobox? There is a section called popular vote. First-preference votes. Oh, yes right. xD I didnt realise that it isnt counted. I will do it tomorrow. Tuvixer (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I suppose the reason why it might not be best in the infobox is because it's sort of a complex thing to figure out, and the methodology could be controverted. That, and we do try to keep the infobox manageable. That said, I have no absolute objection to it being in the infobox, and I certainly won't take it out if you think it belongs there. I seem to recall that it's difficult to put footnotes in the infobox, if not impossible. Perhaps the answer would be to also put the popular vote in a bottom line of the main election results table, and put the footnote explaining the methodology there. Then the infobox information would also be available in the body of the article. Just a thought.
- Thanks for looking at the EFDD numbers. I'm glad to see a positive relationship developing between us, given the recent unpleasantness. Gabrielthursday (talk) 20:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- do you agree that it is not right to put as leaders of parties for this elections politicians who have been elected to that position after the elections. I am talking about Manfred Weber and Gianni Pittella for example. Do you understand? They become leaders only after the elections. during the elections other politicians were the , in this case Joseph Daul and Martin Schulz. Tuvixer (talk) 21:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- I understand your point of view, but would rather not reopen what proved to be an unfortunately unpleasant disagreement. I am glad to work with you on matters such as the popular vote, where we do not have such divergent viewpoints. Best, Gabrielthursday (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- I just don't understand why they are presented as leaders whilst they were not leaders of they political groups on the day of elections? I am not saying that there should be images of "Commission President candidates" but of leaders of their respected political groups that held that position on the days of elections and during the campaign. Understand? So Daul and Schultz for EPP and S&D. Tuvixer (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- I understand your point of view, but would rather not reopen what proved to be an unfortunately unpleasant disagreement. I am glad to work with you on matters such as the popular vote, where we do not have such divergent viewpoints. Best, Gabrielthursday (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- do you agree that it is not right to put as leaders of parties for this elections politicians who have been elected to that position after the elections. I am talking about Manfred Weber and Gianni Pittella for example. Do you understand? They become leaders only after the elections. during the elections other politicians were the , in this case Joseph Daul and Martin Schulz. Tuvixer (talk) 21:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
"Diet of Croatia" redirect
Hi Tuvixer, I'm really not trying to change the Croatian Parliament article itself. It's just that Diet of Croatia exists as a redirect, and has since March 2014. It's creator is Croatian and an administrator, so he probably had a good reason for making it. More importantly, as long as that redirect exists, some people will get to that page by searching "Diet of Croatia". And some of those people may be looking for information about food—see the similar hatnotes at, for example, National Diet and Riksdag of the Estates. So if you think "Diet of Croatia" should redirect there, you can nominate it at WP:RFD for deletion, or perhaps retargeting to Croatian cuisine. Does that make sense? --BDD (talk) 17:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- No, it makes no sense. If Joy has created that redirect, you should ask him what he intended. I am sure he did not intend it to be a redirect for Croatian Parliament because the term Diet is not used for Croatian Sabor/Parliament. I am from and I live in Croatia, so I know. Tnx. --Tuvixer (talk) 17:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Joy, what do you think? Tuvixer, do you think "Diet of Croatia" should take readers to the Croatian cuisine article instead? --BDD (talk) 17:20, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe. Sure not to the Croatian Parliament. :) --Tuvixer (talk) 17:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- I would think that it's fairly clear that the English word "Diet" used in this kind of a context, should refer to a parliament. Not unlike e.g. Federal Diet of Germany, Diet of Finland, ... See also what a Google Books search gives for the phrase - [1] I would imagine that the more likely phrasing for the other diet would be the less formal "Croatian diet", but even that phrase has been used in books to refer to the parliament - [2]. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe. Sure not to the Croatian Parliament. :) --Tuvixer (talk) 17:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Joy, what do you think? Tuvixer, do you think "Diet of Croatia" should take readers to the Croatian cuisine article instead? --BDD (talk) 17:20, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- I've restored the part of the redirect referring to Diet of Croatia. If you want to change that, please let me know if you want at a hand at RFD. --BDD (talk) 18:50, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Why did you do that? Leave it to Joy to make that change if he wants to. He is from Croatia and i am from Croatia so leave that to him, I think we have a better understanding of Croatian Parliament than you. ;) --Tuvixer (talk) 20:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Alright. Let's work this out. Suppose "Diet of Croatia" has to redirect to Croatian Parliament. Say Jimmy himself said this has to be the case, or Wikipedia will be discontinued. Given that, there should be a hatnote, right? Especially if it's not a common name for the parliament, some readers using that term will be looking for food. Now, I'm not saying that redirect has to exist, or that it needs to point to the parliament. But as long as it does, that hatnote is necessary to help confused readers. Do you understand? --BDD (talk) 20:41, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- My point is that the status quo that you're reinforcing is one where "Diet of Croatia" redirect to Croatian Parliament, and we do nothing to suggest that phrase could refer to anything but the parliament. I really don't think that's what you want. --BDD (talk) 20:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Then create redirects for all parliaments in the world, for example Diet of Italy, Diet of India,... Also create redirects for Assembly,and so on. The term Diet of Croatia is not used for Croatian Parliament, like Diet of Italy is not used for Italian Parliament. --Tuvixer (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Right, see, what you want is for the Diet of Croatia redirect to be changed or deleted, then. Keeping a hatnote off the parliament article is only going to add to confusion. --BDD (talk) 20:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Then create redirects for all parliaments in the world, for example Diet of Italy, Diet of India,... Also create redirects for Assembly,and so on. The term Diet of Croatia is not used for Croatian Parliament, like Diet of Italy is not used for Italian Parliament. --Tuvixer (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Why did you do that? Leave it to Joy to make that change if he wants to. He is from Croatia and i am from Croatia so leave that to him, I think we have a better understanding of Croatian Parliament than you. ;) --Tuvixer (talk) 20:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, this just occurred to me—did you think my edits at Croatian Parliament were creating a redirect? They're not; the redirect was there before and it's still there now. Nothing I've done has changed that. --BDD (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- So don't do anything, just leave it like it is, or/and change the redirect for Croatian Cuisine or Food. OK? --Tuvixer (talk) 21:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, alright. That sounds like the easiest solution. --BDD (talk) 21:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- So don't do anything, just leave it like it is, or/and change the redirect for Croatian Cuisine or Food. OK? --Tuvixer (talk) 21:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Order
I opened a thread on the subject you're discussing at Talk:Kolinda. Cheers. -- Director (talk) 14:20, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah Tuvixer, please respond to this WP:CANVASS. I'm sure it will help the case. Timbouctou (talk) 14:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't care about the note. You two were acting like children. Stop that. Also you have proven your knowledge on this topic by saying that UK is a federation. So please stop editing articles about which you do not have basic knowledge. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Lol. Timbouctou (talk) 14:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Seems you know less about WP:CANVASS than what makes a head of state :). -- Director (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Seems your penchant for trolling is carrying over to user talk pages as well. You may need to talk to experts on that. Timbouctou (talk) 15:33, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Seems you know less about WP:CANVASS than what makes a head of state :). -- Director (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Lol. Timbouctou (talk) 14:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't care about the note. You two were acting like children. Stop that. Also you have proven your knowledge on this topic by saying that UK is a federation. So please stop editing articles about which you do not have basic knowledge. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Timbouctou you are a sociopath, please stop commenting on my talk page. I don't want to have anything with politically biased users, and you have proven on so many articles that you are on Wikipedia just to promote your political ideology and you are even prepared to write lies and manipulate just to make your point. So please leave me alone, and when you are wrong stop acting like a child. Tnx. --Tuvixer (talk) 15:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
List of Presidents of Croatia ANI discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Latin/Cyrillic
Actually whenever there is a difference between Serbian and Croatian Latin, we should add both. European Union is totally unrelated. Regards, FkpCascais (talk) 14:20, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, if you say so. I was thinking that someone was trying to make a mess. But ok. --Tuvixer (talk) 15:22, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
3rd President
Putting 3rd (as opposed to Third), also removes the ambiguity, hence the thanks.Pincrete (talk) 17:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Ok. :) I just looked how it is with Obama. :D --Tuvixer (talk) 19:38, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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- @Robert McClenon There is no Committee's decision. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed that for you, assuming that they meant to put the sanctions for Eastern Europe. OP, if I was wrong for what sanctions you meant, simply change it. However you linked to the letter B. cnbr15 14:04, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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- No problem. :) It is just late. --Tuvixer (talk) 23:58, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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Re: Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs (Croatia)
I just wanted to make lists of ministers at Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs (Croatia) and Ministry of the Interior (Croatia) identical as list at Ministry of Defence (Croatia)... The new version contain more data, I don't understand why you are against it? --Sundostund (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am sorry. I did not realize that. Tnx for your edits. :)--Tuvixer (talk) 17:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Tuvixer! I'm glad that we cleared up misunderstanding... By the way, I saw that you recently remodeled many lists at articles about Croatian ministries, so would you consider to remodel them to look as list at Ministry of Defence (Croatia)? I don't have enough time to remodel all of them myself, but as you can see I did it at Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs (Croatia) and Ministry of the Interior (Croatia). It would be helpful if we have the new version at all articles. --Sundostund (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, you mean that all tables contain the "Duration of office"?--Tuvixer (talk) 21:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, pretty much. But also some other stuff (just see all elements when you open the list scheme at Ministry of Defence (Croatia)). --Sundostund (talk) 23:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, you mean that all tables contain the "Duration of office"?--Tuvixer (talk) 21:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Tuvixer! I'm glad that we cleared up misunderstanding... By the way, I saw that you recently remodeled many lists at articles about Croatian ministries, so would you consider to remodel them to look as list at Ministry of Defence (Croatia)? I don't have enough time to remodel all of them myself, but as you can see I did it at Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs (Croatia) and Ministry of the Interior (Croatia). It would be helpful if we have the new version at all articles. --Sundostund (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
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You have made four reverts in less than 24 hrs. Please self-revert your last revert.Volunteer Marek (talk) 22:31, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
BTW, since I see that you've been warned about edit warring previously, if you don't self revert I will report you.Volunteer Marek (talk) 22:33, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, I did not realize that. Please ,will you go to the talk page and engage in a constructive discussion and stop changing the article? Tnx. --Tuvixer (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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Regarding the official language
The constitution and all legal documents are pretty clear on the matter (as are secondary sources who cite those documents, I referenced those). Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia had no official state language. The constituent Socialist Republics are the ones that had official languages. 93.141.88.210 (talk) 13:20, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sry, I thought that you had removed that, and you have added that. Tnx for your edit. :) --Tuvixer (talk) 13:32, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Rijeka
Explanation of my removal of sourced text:
I was trying to consolidate different articles about Rijeka on Wikipedia:
- History of Rijeka - Timeline of Rijeka - Croatian-Hungarian Settlement - Port of Rijeka - Corpus separatum (Fiume)
The original text reads:
Until 1918, FIUME was part of the Austrian monarchy (Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia after the compromise of 1867), in the Croatia-Slavonia province.
The text I removed reads:
From 1804, Rijeka was part of the Austrian Empire (Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia after the Compromise of 1867), in the Croatia-Slavonia province.[5]
Here are my problems with the text:
- it suggests Rijeka joined Austrian Empire in 1804, not that the Habsburg monarchy was just renamed - it suggests the corpus separatum status has ended in 1804 - there is no mention of Croatia-Slavonia province at that time on Wikipedia, just Kingdom of Croatia and Kingdom of Slavonia; link redirects to Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia formed in 1867 - fails to mention disputed status (Croatia/Hungary) and changes in governing during the 19th century - suggests it was no longer part of the Austrian Empire after 1867
I understand the text is "sourced" (obscure offline postage stamp cancellation book), but even the original clearly conflicts with other articles and the current version is misleading at best. Please explain why the conflicted "sourced" text should not be removed.
And if you feel very strongly about not removing the text, please take some time and edit the section to create something that is not as confusing as the current state.
Dedekmraz 20:39, 31 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dedekmraz (talk • contribs)
Thanks
@Tuvixer: Nothing wrong. I appreciate your help. Said so on the article talkpage. Yours, Quis separabit? 19:24, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Tito report
Too bad mate, I was faster. Peter238 (talk) 13:31, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
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Stranica Ivo Josipović
Zašto uklanjate moje izmjene na stranici Ivo Josipović ? Slika iz 2011. sa obljetnice Oluje je daleko bolja i bolje kvalitete od trenutne koju Vi uporno postavljate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.183.142 (talk) 18:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please don't be disrespectful, this is English Wikipedia. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 18:26, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
OK, I will translate. Why you constantly remove my changes on the page Ivo Josipović? His photo from 2011, from the celebrating of military operation Storm, is much better with more quality than current photo whom you set. I don't understand where is the problem ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.151.90 (talk) 20:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- The picture was just fine, if you want to change it present the changes on the talk page and wait for a consensus. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 18:31, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Electoral system
The following info was in the Croatia election article. Do you know what happened to redefining the constituencies to account for population changes/make them follow county borders etc. An the introduction of open lists etc. It would be good if you could check this point by point.Regards --Batmacumba (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
"The electoral system will likely see some changes compared to the last four elections. In December 2010, the Constitutional Court of Croatia decided to inform Parliament that it is necessary to update the electoral unit definitions according to current population data, in accordance with the provisions of the 1999 Law on electoral units. It was too late to change the system for the 2011 election cycle, since electoral laws cannot be changed less than a year before the election. Therefore, the next election will occur with boundary changes to accommodate shifts in the population.[1] Minister of Public Administration Arsen Bauk announced major changes in the composition of the geographical electoral units. It is expected their number will be reduced from ten to five. They would follow the borders of Croatian counties with each encompassing several counties. This means they would not be roughly equal in size, as was the case before, but rather each district would give a different number of MPs, in proportion with their population. The population would be determined by census numbers, rather than the number of registered voters as was the case before. Two non-geographical districts, which give 3 seats for diaspora and 8 for minorities, would remain unchanged. 140 members would still come from the five geographical districts meaning the total number of seats would still be 151. Proportional representation would still be the method of electing members, however it is not clear whether the D'Hondt method would remain and whether there would be an introduction of open lists.[2]"
Yugoslav People's Army
Respectable, if I'm not mistaken, in Serbo-Croatian (or Croato-Serbian), word "narod" means both the "people" and the "nation". So, in case of Yugoslav People's Army, correct translations of "Jugoslovenska narodna armija" are both Yugoslav People's Army and Yugoslav National Army. In materials of US DoD, JNA is translated in both ways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.149.232.157 (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
- No it is not because it means army of the people.--Tuvixer (talk) 00:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Edit warring at Social Democratic Party of Croatia
Both you and Tzowu have been warned for edit warring at Social Democratic Party of Croatia. Either of you may be blocked if you continue to revert, without making a serious effort to get other opinions, or to follow the steps of WP:Dispute resolution. Thank you, 15:19, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Rijeka - Regency of Carnaro period
I think there was nothing to be deleted on the Regency of Carnaro part of the Rijeka article. You should have only asked (rightly so, indeed) for sources. They are provided now and please before you delete something find them online and read them, where possible. It is an extremely important moment of the town's history and the only one in which it was part of the world news on a weekly basis. So it deserves a deep study and good academic-like description for the reader. Moreover, you should not change the Autonomous Party into "autonomist party", it is not a generic name but the proper official name, like for example "the Communist Party of China" or "United Russia" or "the UPM party of France", etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marintu (talk • contribs) 16:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- You have to provide the sources. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 16:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding your revert: could you point me to the debate that you've mentioned? I can't find it in Talk:Croatia or its archives. GregorB (talk) 09:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- If you want to discuss go to the talk page of the article, this is not the place for that debate. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 09:58, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- For info, GregorB, I've started a discussion about this here. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Croatian Parliamentary Elections 2007 + 2011 + 2015
I don't mind, that You deleted my tables with the results of the 21 zupanjas - as long as You replace them with real tables (I don't have the technical skills therefor)! But the zupanja-results - it took me days to sum up the municipality-results - ought to be provided by us, especially as the DIP isn't able to that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agricola Planitius (talk • contribs) 15:18, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- You need to have a source. There is no such thing as zupanjas. Without a source "your" sums don't mean anything. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 15:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Could use your help!
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Edit-warring
I'll thank you to not intervene on the side of the edit-warring party, who has done nothing to attempt to achieve consensus on this article. Either read the talk page history or butt out. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:22, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- AS I said, you have not been involved in this article, but I will be glad to involve you if you continue to intervene on behalf of an obvious single-issue editor who is pushing a POV on the article. The only DR attempted (a RfC) resolved strongly against the POV the user was pushing. But it's up to you. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Croatian government being formed
If you are a Croatian, why don't you know about your new government being formed? --212.186.0.108 (talk) 14:17, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- It is not being formed, they have not even been voted in the Parliament. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 14:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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- I did not remove sourced material, Please go and see. Read the edits, don't make assumptions. Tnx --Tuvixer (talk) 11:18, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Which my addition was disruptive to you? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.146.247.248 (talk) 11:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Yes you did, you removed the following ", further stating that "there was no reason for the Germans to attack the Partisans, and it would be in the interests of both if hostilities stopped and areas of responsibilities were agreed"." It is sourced to Lekovic. Don't remove it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, tnx. --Tuvixer (talk) 11:23, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- As a courtesy, I must point out that ARBMAC sanctions are also enforceable at Josip Broz Tito, because I have a feeling I'm going to be taking your behaviour on that article to WP:AE unless you cease the tendentious stone-walling on the talk page. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:22, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you reverted my edits of the UN Secretary-General elections -- and instead alphabetically, you've put them in random order. Also, why list more than 1-2 former positions? Veni Markovski | Вени Марковски (talk) 21:23, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
A very important question...
...is still unanswered: what kind of mention of political oppression would you consider appropriate for Josip Broz Tito article?[4] Without a straight answer, the process turns into a guessing game, in which Silvio attempts to find a way to insert changes, only to find them repeatedly rejected for one reason or the other. Please state what kind of changes would you accept, and Silvio will attempt to work in that direction (instead of guessing in multiple random directions), and the issue will have been resolved. GregorB (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
FYI
I closed the discussion on the admin board and reverted the 13 March addition, rather than protecting the article at the wrong version, for the simple reason that all parties seem now to have agreed that the text in question is poorly written, exhibits a strong POV and rests on questionable sources. It is not part of the stable version of the article. Guy (Help!) 15:09, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- ok, I did not realize that, you are the admin. --Tuvixer (talk) 15:16, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
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European Council table
Hi Tuvixer, it is not generally considered to simply revert an edit you don't like. See WP:DONTREVERT. I edited the page because I find it much clearer. In the case of Merkel, for example, it makes sense to show each of her may elections. This is a table of members of the European Council, not one primarily to indicate the most recent and the next election in each state. If you have an issue with what this means in the case of Croatia, you should discuss it, preferably on my own page so that I'll get a notification. On your specific point, while he didn't contest the election, Orešković was the prime minister appointed after the 2015 election, as indicated on Croatian parliamentary election, 2015. William Quill (talk) 22:06, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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Translation of grije as kissed
Surely a translation of Croatian to English needs to be accurate. If the translation is not accurate how can people be assured that any other information is accurate. Grije means to warm. There is absolutely no reference to kiss in the original anthem. How can you possibly justify translating grije as kissed. Frank Kolmann (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I am not justifying anything, You can't change the sourced text as You like. I suggest that You get familiar with the rules of Wikipedia. Thanks. --Tuvixer (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok then, I am supposed to get agreement to the change. Well who do I contact to discuss this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank Kolmann (talk • contribs) 13:18, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- No, You can't change it because it is the official translation by the Croatian government. Do You understand now? --Tuvixer (talk) 20:25, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
I tried to find the official translation, I found nothing. I checked the references there is no official translation in the references. In any case the government is only a representative of the people. The translation is incorrect. How can one inform the relevant department that a correction in needed.Frank Kolmann (talk) 06:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Are you joking??? Please look at this: http://www.mvep.hr/en/about-croatia/state-emblems/national-anthem/ And please stop wasting my time. You can't change the official translation. Please educate yourself on how Wikipedia works. Thanks. --Tuvixer (talk) 08:23, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Language template at Josip Broz Tito
As I have explained in my edit summary, there are Cyrillic scripts in several languages. In this case, the Cyrillic script being used is that of Serbo-Croatian. It is therefore necessary to use the Serbo-Croatian Cyrillic template. I have no idea why you have an issue with this simple fact. As you deleted it, and were reverted, the obligation is on you (per WP:BRD) to start discussion on the talk page. The sh template has been there for ages. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Peacemaker67: I have started a discussion on the talk page of the article in question, seconds ago. Thanks. --Tuvixer (talk) 08:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Operation Storm
Well, does it all say there, why put double, one should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.125.51.20 (talk) 22:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Please go to the talk page of the article so we can have a proper discussion. Thanks --Tuvixer (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Coronavirus in Croatia
Bok Tuvixer!
I see you are editing the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Croatia article. I am working on the Croatian language version of it. Today in the morning we had one confirmed death in Istria. Together with all the newspapers, the official government source koronavirus.hr said so aswell. But now the site was removed. I am 100% sure that it was even in the webarchive - since I added the archivelink as a source on hr.wiki. But now are both, the izvornik and the archived page, completely gone. I have no explaination for that, it is really weird. What would you say about this? How should we on Wikipedia deal with this?
Srdačan pozdrav, Koreanovsky (talk) 16:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
@Koreanovsky:Hi, maybe they still don't know if coronavirus was the cause of death. I don't know. But they would not remove it without a reason. --Tuvixer (talk) 17:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Genocide of Serbs page
I see you included Chetnik activity as part of Racic’s activities. Where is that sourced from? I did not see that anywhere and removed it. For now. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 14:41, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- It is in the source, please read it again. Thanks--Tuvixer (talk) 14:46, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- I see, thanks. Also I notice that the context was wrong. Radic was not responsible for the assassination. Prenar’s outburst accusing Racic of corruptions lead to the shooting. Radic was quiet during this time. On Radic’s page a new similar edit claiming Radic accused Racic of corruption, could you take a look the source is valid? Thanks. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Don't have time right now, but if it says that Radić "provoked" the killer Račić, it is either false or/and unsourced. --Tuvixer (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- I see, thanks. Also I notice that the context was wrong. Radic was not responsible for the assassination. Prenar’s outburst accusing Racic of corruptions lead to the shooting. Radic was quiet during this time. On Radic’s page a new similar edit claiming Radic accused Racic of corruption, could you take a look the source is valid? Thanks. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Vandelism
User Александр Ашкаров keeps making the same vandalizing edits on the Genocide of Serbs page. Three times now. Can the page be protected or the person blocked? They are vandalizing other wiki pages too it seems. They seem to be engaged in historical whitewashing. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 11:56, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- You can make a request for page protection.--Tuvixer (talk) 12:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Seems like double standards.
Looking at the Ivo Andric and Tesla page, one ethnic Croat, other ethnic Serb both born our of the identifying nations, Nikola Tesla’s name is listed as Serbian, but Ivo Andrić’ name is listed as Serbian or Serbo-Croatian. Seems hypocritical. Who is deciding this? 74.101.190.2 (talk) 21:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Socialist Republic of Croatia
Hi,
it seems to me that there may be some misunderstanding on the page about Socialist Republic of Croatia. I am now going to first add the content about Esther Gitman's work there without erasing any of the existing content. The content that I will add will be referenced and directly connected to the topic in the paragraph. Later in the day I am going to start a conversation on the talk page there because there is a lot oc content that seems to be cited in an improper way and that seems to reflect subjective viewpoints. This is also the reasons why I tried to edit it. Nbanic (talk) 06:06, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi again,
you keep removing the sourced content and you are edit warring and that is not a good kind of behavior. If you have some problem with the sourced concent, you should try to discuss it on the talk pages. Nbanic (talk) 22:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Your edit warring
Hi again,
it seems to me that for some reasong you are deleting sourced content without giving any proper explanation on the talk pages. Please, try to at least explain your strange behavior. Just deleting without giving any explanation seems as if you are trying to push your point of view by force, which is not something that is particularly nice or useful here on Wikipedia. So again, if you have something against sourced content, which references books of esteemed authors and publishers, try first to explaing it and not just use brute force. Additionally, on some occasions when you delete sourced content, you complain without arguments about only one topic, but you also delete sourced content of another topic in the article. This is not nice and since you seem to repeat it time and again, it is effectively an edit war. Please, try to be more reasonable and discuss the problems that you may see on the talk pages. There should be no problems with the sources that I mentioned and I can provide additional ones as well. Nbanic (talk) 22:55, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Socialist Republic of Croatia (April 2020)
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Josip Broz Tito
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Issue with pov skewing on article.
On the Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia there is a user who keeps pushing edits that seem to over inflate the intro or unbalance the article. For example one edit is their claim that Genocide is integral to Greater Croatia ideology. This is unsourced and is wrong, it was an Ustasha ideology based on Nazi Racial Theory which is a sourced fact. This editor is also backed by another editor both of which cannot source their edits and keep edit warring. How does one combat this? Thanks. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 19:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- RS have been added by fellow editor @WEBDuB. Please do not resort to canvassing. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 19:38, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- The sourced supplied do not state that Genocide was a requirement or a rule of Greater Croatia ideology as the editors implied. Genocide was an Ustashe idea formed from Nazi Racial Theory. Look at the sources and you will see the sentence wording does not match what the sources say. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC)