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For those who might want to work on this, more on the quasicrystals story is available in a [https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/category/quasicrystals-2/ four-post series] published on the Pauling Blog. [[User:Petersec|Petersec]] ([[User talk:Petersec|talk]]) 22:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
For those who might want to work on this, more on the quasicrystals story is available in a [https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/category/quasicrystals-2/ four-post series] published on the Pauling Blog. [[User:Petersec|Petersec]] ([[User talk:Petersec|talk]]) 22:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


Yes - this page is not balanced - His great success went to his head. His conflict with Robinson ended up with research data destroyed (part of the data didn't support vitamin C claims) - the story has been ghosted - destroying research data is a crime against humanity.


== Criticism ==
== Criticism ==

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Quasicrystals

I was wondering if there should be something about his opposition towards Dan Shechtman's findings about quasicrystals. Any thoughts? NeutralWikipedia 15:58, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps this could be mentioned near the end of a section on his crystallography work. Except that the article now seems to have no section with all his contributions to crystallography. Some are mentioned briefly in sections on the chemical bond and biological molecules. Others such as Pauling's rules for ionic crystal structures are absent from this article.
So I would propose that we include a section on crystallography putting all his work on crystals together. This would then be a natural place to could include a mention of his ideas on (or against) quasicrystals. We will of course need sources for this. Dirac66 (talk) 19:56, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree; his behavior with regard to quasicrystals was most unbecoming. He started out by claiming that a simple twin would produce the same results. He ended up by suggesting that thousands of twins would explain them! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.156.175 (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For those who might want to work on this, more on the quasicrystals story is available in a four-post series published on the Pauling Blog. Petersec (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Yes - this page is not balanced - His great success went to his head. His conflict with Robinson ended up with research data destroyed (part of the data didn't support vitamin C claims) - the story has been ghosted - destroying research data is a crime against humanity.

Criticism

Pauling was undoubtedly a very important scientist, however he did make some pretty bad mistakes too that due to his fame hindered science. Three such events come to mind, there might be others:

  • The wrong structure proposed for the DNA (triple helix with phosphates pointing inwards)
  • The unwillingness to accept existence of quasi-crystals
  • The wrong structure proposed for phosphomolybdic acid, what is now called the Keggin structure. This is important as it was the first polyoxometalate to be identified as well as the first one to have its structure solved.

In light of this, shouldn't there be a criticism section in this article? 185.46.77.38 (talk) 15:47, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Vitamin C therapy being used with connection to the current virus. It seems to me that Pauling deserves at least some nod, since he promoted Vitamin C as antiviral support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drsruli (talkcontribs) 23:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Vitamin C Was Szent-Georgi.

Google gives the accidental and quite incorrect impression that Pauling's Chemistry Nobel involved Vitamin C. Pauling became a vitamin C crank toward the end of his life, but his Nobel in chemistry has nothing to do with this rather sad fact. He studied at Goettingen in the 1930s, made the rather obvious observation that the quantum mechanics well known there would have an impact on chemistry, and then exploited the apercu with great intelligence and energy once he returned to the United States. That's what his Nobel is all about.

His Peace Prize may be thought of as related: his warning of the dangers of atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons was based on his scientific appreciation of the damage done by radioactive pollution at the cellular level.

My friend the late Albert Szent-Györgyi won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1937 and this is commonly said to be "for vitamin C." That's largely true, and anybody interested can start with the perfectly sound Wiki entry on him at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Szent-Gy%C3%B6rgyi.

The entry states "he is credited with," and he was the first to say, at least in private, that this "credited with" is not unanimous. On the other hand, I don't think anyone doubts the Nobel-quality of his overall work.

In any subsequent work on this Pauling entry, I wonder if the author or editors might make a modest reference to the errors of public opinion around vitamin C and the people responsible for its identification, isolation, and genuine value to health?

The single brief paragraph on Pauling's later days as a crank is elegant and restrained, and I think it can stand as it is. In his later years he promoted nuclear disarmament, as well as orthomolecular medicine, megavitamin therapy,[11] and dietary supplements. None of the latter have gained much acceptance in the mainstream scientific community.[5][12] My Grammarly now tells me it wants a comma after "years," which anybody who agrees with Grammarly is welcome to insert.

David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 13:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]