Talk:Casualties of the September 11 attacks

true death toll.

The true death toll is well over 6,000 if you include day of impact deaths and the combined deaths of survivors afterwards who died from directly related 9/11 reasons.

The death toll is well over 7,000 now. over 4,000 New Yorkers have died of asbestos related deaths directly caused by the 9/11 terror attacks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.104.74.63 (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2021 (UTC) 

As of July 2022 7,437 Have died from direct cause of the September 11.2001 terror attacks. This includes nearly 3,000 deaths on the day of the attacks. From Sept 12,2001 till July 31,2022 4,437 are known to have died from direct causes related to the attacks. The causes include asbestos exposure, Lung damage from smoke and concrete dust, fumes from burning fuel and plastic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.147.20 (talk) 15:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Sources for foreign victims

I tried to find Iranians victim but didn’t, same goes to Mali and other nationalities. Contributes should focus on this point for credibility 2001:16A2:7C09:7F00:11A0:A8C6:66F6:B498 (talk) 01:15, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Conspiracies and Jewish victims

Article should state that many Jewish people in America do not have Jewish last names. Given Anti-German attitudes around WWI (and many Jewish surnames are/were of Germanic origin); the general trend of Saami, Roma, and Jews to find it advantageous to outwardly assimilate in ways they were not able to in Europe but could in America (be it to avoid discrimination they assumed they would also face in America or from embracing American Nationalism after experiencing quality-of-life improvements caused by so-called "American Dream;" or even being adopted into America by a non-Jewish family and taking their surname while still maintaining Jewish identity (this last one is the reason that I personally have an Anglo surname, grandfather was apparently adopted to America from Cuba). I think it's noteworthy to state that neither my father nor the only girlfriend he had that I actually know to have been Jewish, had Jewish last names, while both of them were full-blooded Jews genealogically and she and her family actively celebrated Hannukah religiously and culturally celebrated Christmas. 2601:644:4001:F0C0:5079:E0A7:AE07:6EBA (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Casualty totals

Danstronger, you reverted my changes to the number of casualties:

1. from 184 to 125 fatal victims in the Pentagon
2. from 2,977 to 2,994 total fatal victims
3. from 40 to 35 fatal victims in Pennsilvania
4. from 2,753 to 2,853 fatal victims in the WTC

Here's why I changed them:

1. The 9/11 Commission Report says 125 died at the Pentagon, though both FOX and ESPN list 126 fatal victims in the Pentagon (not counting the 59 aboard flight AA77).
2. 2,994 is the number of listed fatal victims in the National September 11 Memorial & Museum.
3. 35 are the number of people in the List of fatal victims of the September 11 attacks who were aboard flight UA93, but now I see a number of people on that list have no place of death identified, and FOX confirms the 40.
4. 2,853 = 2,994 – 125 – 35 + 19 (it should've been 2,770 = 2,994 – 125 – 59 – 40)

— Guarapiranga ☎ 02:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

The following sentence says "These deaths included 265 on the four planes." My numbers are consistent with [1] and most other sources. For instance [2] has the 2753 number for victims at WTC including the planes. The September 11 Memorial webpage says 2983 including the 6 from the 1993 bombing, which is also consistent with 2977 total. Danstronger (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

INCORRECT DATA PUBLISHED ABOUT DEATH TOOL & INJURIES ON SEPTEMBER 11 2001

2996

(2,977 victims + 19 al-Qaeda terrorists)

CORRECT DATA ON DEATH TOLL

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001

TERRORIST ATTACKS IN AMERICA

“Some 2,750 people were killed in New York, 184 at the Pentagon, and 40 in Pennsylvania (where one of the hijacked planes crashed after the passengers attempted to retake the plane); all 19 terrorists died (see Researcher’s Note: September 11 attacks),” (1).

1). Britannica Event: September 11 Attacks: Additional Info: Researchers Note

https://www.britannica.com/event/September-11-attacks/additional-info#Researchers-Note

Accessed July 28, 2022 KatResearcherOhio (talk) 12:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

References

9/11

please do not trust wiki but if it is this page because in wiki you can find a diamond in the ruff like this one 71.30.80.168 (talk) 22:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

No comma for the deaths?

The first sentence says "2996 people died in the September 11, 2001 attacks...", but should there be a comma in "2996"? It should be "2,996 people died in the September 11, 2001 attacks..". MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf (talk) 11:27, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Jumper who survived briefly?

In the book September 11: An Oral History, there is a section about a woman who jumped/fell from one of the towers but survived the initial impact and, more than that, was coherent enough to speak to the person who found her. It's a hell of a story if it's true, but (to me, at least) it sounds like the author was full of it. I mean, how the hell could anyone survive a fall like that for even a brief period of time? It doesn't make any sense to me. 150 mph into the ground―no, into solid concrete―is no joke. The writer does speculate that the impact had been cushioned by an "air draft" that slowed her descent sufficiently, but even so I don't really buy it. As far as I'm concerned there is no way in hell a fall from that height is survivable.

Now, the reason I bring this up on the article's talk page is because if it can be verified (which I doubt), then perhaps its inclusion is warranted in the "Deaths by jumping and falling" subheading? Again, I highly doubt the story's veracity, but if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt I don't see why it shouldn't be mentioned. Hmm1994 (talk) 07:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Puerto Rico is not a foreign country

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States, not a foreign country, its inhabitants are American citizens and their deaths on 9/11 shouldn't be listed under "foreign". 172.118.196.0 (talk) 20:47, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

The photo with the Russian "president" Vladimir Putin should be replaced with a different image

The image of Putin signing a condolence wall to the foreign fatalities should be replaced or deleted, because he himself is responsible for a huge number of terrorist attacks on other countries. It is disrespectful to have this picture up when another photo could be worthwhile. 95.90.211.72 (talk) 14:49, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Youngest victim

In the article, it says the youngest victim of the attacks was 2-year-old Christine Lee Hanson aboard United Airlines Flight 175 . However, Lauren Grandcolas was pregnant with an unborn child aboard United Airlines Flight 93. Both Grandcolas and her unborn child are credited as victims of the attacks at Flight 93 National Memorial in Shanksville and the National September 11 Memorial & Museum in New York. I believe this should be changed. Brandondsantos (talk) 21:27, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Actually 15 women murdered at 9/11 were pregnant with children. 11 would of been viable births. The ladies were 6 to 9 months pregnant. 4 would not of been viable 1-5 months gestation. Because of the lunatics surrounding abortion rights with a hate for children not born. The viable 11 were never added to the 9/11 totals. They should of been.