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Category:Catholic universities and colleges in Honduras[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one university in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge per nom, without objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge (as creator) in the absence of more content. However I reverted your addition of Category:Universities and colleges in Honduras to the article, which is redundant as the article is already in Category:Universities in Honduras. @Smasongarrison: may I ask why you phrase your nominations as splitting instead of merging to all parents, which can be automated? In my understanding splitting is something else, which is when a category combines two or more different notions, and some articles must be manually moved to target category A, some others to target category B, but not both categories (e.g. splitting a category for queens between queens regnant and queens consorts). Place Clichy (talk) 12:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Happy to answer the splitting question. So the twinkle app doesn't at present give an option to merge into two categories, so I've been using split instead. I've made a request that they include the option as there is a template. My reasoning is that it's better to include the additional category at the expense of the wrong verb. Mason (talk) 17:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see! Place Clichy (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Educational facilities[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Educational facilities

Category:United Airlines Flight 93 victims[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:United Airlines Flight 93 victims

Category:Batman: Arkham characters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Feels WP:INDISCRIMINATE. If it were just a list of characters from the Batman: Arkham series (with the articles listed being about the versions from the Batman: Arkham series) that would be fine. This also might be an WP:OVERLAPCAT with other Batman categories. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, these are not Batman: Arkham characters, they're just Batman characters. This category should be populated by specific versions from those games and original characters created for the games, not by what's filled with now. —El Millo (talk) 01:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Surnames of Jewish origin[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Surnames of Jewish origin

Category:People of Soviet descent[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:People of Soviet descent

Category:Tyla (South African singer)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 16:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A total of three related articles (one album and two songs) doesn't seem to be enough to justify an eponymous category yet. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the category has then been significantly improved. dxneo (talk) 10:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, apart from the eponymous article, the songs and albums (which all link to each other anyway) there is only an article about a tour. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But the tours and files aren't works, so pruning would be needed. Take those away though and a "works by" parent isn't even necessary. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sure, it would need pruning, but it would still hold three subcats. --woodensuperman 15:02, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, @Omnis Scientia, any thoughts on renaming? Qwerfjkltalk 19:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: you might want to withdraw this nomination and start a new one including the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:42, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would be in favor deleting the whole tree. They are all too small. @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars, start a new one as Marco says. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm OK with closing this as no consensus. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:18, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Really the biography article and the tour ones are the only potential direct content. (I would also favor deleting the tour subcat until if/when more articles appear.) No objection to creating a Works by Tyla category but that can be done outside of CFD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of women government ministers by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Every content uses "female", not "women". —Panamitsu (talk) 20:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. The parents all use women. See Category:Women government ministers by country Mason (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose per Smasongarrison. --AlexandraAVX (talk) 23:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of women government ministers by portfolio[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Every content uses "female" not "women" —Panamitsu (talk) 20:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. The parents all use women. See Category:Women government ministers by country Mason (talk) 19:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But all the contents use "female", such as List of female defence ministers. This is quite similar to WP:C2D. —Panamitsu (talk) 21:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is clearly a conflict between C2D and C2C. To me it would make more sense to rename the articles, since we obviously have no children in these lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia categories named after writers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I fail to see how this category isn't 100% redundant to Category:Writers, basically even copying eevery subcategory in its tree. Isn't this just pointless redundance? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.7% of all FPs. 02:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. These are maintenance categories for eponymous categories. Mason (talk) 05:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but it's a complete redundant copy of the category tree for Writers, and I can't see any use. What on earth is this maintaining? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.7% of all FPs. 08:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; it clearly says this is a maintenance category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess the original intention was that biography categories shouldn't contain any eponymous subcategories because these subcategories do not contain biographical articles. But this is not maintained, not even documented as a guideline as far as I know. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Prada exclusive models[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between brand and occupation Mason (talk) 01:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Members of the Galizien division[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:COMMONNAME: this is the most common short name for the division,[1][2] capitalized as a proper name. The short name is appropriate as this category includes members both while it was the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) (1943–45) and 1st Galicia Division of the Ukrainian National Army (1945).  —Michael Z. 15:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Google Scholar results:
 —Michael Z. 16:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC) Added more results. —Michael Z. 04:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "Galacia" is the English word for this region. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:05, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Galicia is English (not Galacia); galizien is German.  —Michael Z. 04:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Assassinated businesspeople[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation and manner of death. If kept, should be renamed Murdered businesspeople. Mason (talk) 15:20, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All members are likely already in another subcategory. Most were murdered for reasons unrelated to their jobs. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Either keep this category, or rename to Category:Murdered businesspeople. Strongly oppose deleting or merging this category. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:7th-century Arabian Jews[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this specific ethnic group needs to be diffused by century Mason (talk) 03:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, these are Jews who are almost exclusively mentioned in the Quran. This is a distinct group of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, I think the category should be renamed to capture that defining feature. Mason (talk) 14:27, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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What about Category:Arabian Jews that interacted with Muhammad, modeled off of Category:Arabian tribes that interacted with Muhammad? Mason (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A few did not interact with Muhammad but with his successor. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:55, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok... do you have an alternative suggestion that captures the defining feature? I think that we shouldn't have the "century" element in the same as it isn't a defining feature. Mason (talk) 22:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Province of Massachusetts Bay[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep and build out hierachy. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. It is by no means useful to have navigation for pre-statehood and post-statehood Massachusetts be separated solely due to a difference in name. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Province of Massachusetts Bay is not the same entity as Massachusetts (nor are they same as Massachusetts Bay Colony, Plymouth Colony, or Province of Maine). Each entity as it's own history and combining them into one category is anachronistic and simply creates a mess. They also do not overlap as each entity has its own years and area, so other than sharing a somewhat similar name, how do they overlap? Gonnym (talk) 00:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On a related note, all changes to the categories should be restored to the status quo while this CfD is ongoing. Gonnym (talk) 00:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Qwerfjkl can we stop with the relisting? There is no arguments and from reading this, Marcocapelle, Fayenatic London and myself are all in agreement. Gonnym (talk) 15:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym really? I don't see that. Qwerfjkltalk 16:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Qwerfjkl Fayenatic said to Keep and build out the hierarchy, which is the current tree with fixes, which I agree with. Marcocapelle said Reverse merge which Fayenatic explained is moving the Province categories from the state tree to their own tree, which is the same as what Fayenatic said. Gonnym (talk) 16:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Multi-purpose stadiums in the Americas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not useful. Same rationale of many "Americas" categories that have been deleted. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom as the child categories are already in the correct "by continent" category. Mason (talk) 21:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the subcategories are already siblings in the by-continent tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vegetarian[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per WP:CSD#G4. ✗plicit 14:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDEFINING. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Politicians born in Kocaeli[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete.
Nominator's rationale: "Born in" is not defining in this context. When it comes to politicians, the defining geographic intersection is not where they were born, it's where they did politics. Bearcat (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1990s massacres in Algeria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per List of massacres during the Algerian Civil War and there is not a set of massacres in Algeria by decade. This was opposed for speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@AHI-3000 and Smasongarrison: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose. There are numerous countries in Category:Massacres in the 1990s Mason (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, see my reasoning in the speedy discussion. AHI-3000 (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Edo literature[edit]

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Category:Cemeteries in the District of Columbia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:16, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: dual merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. A speedy downmerge proposal was opposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Washington, D.C. and the District of Columbia have not always been coterminous. There really needs to be a full discussion of these renamings. Jahaza (talk) 19:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You should have it, but the current consensus that it close enough for District of Columbia and Category:District of Columbia to redirect to it. This oppose should be disregarded as it's basically against community consensus and the opposer isn't actually going to start the discussion either. Gonnym (talk) 13:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aidan721, Jahaza, and Gonnym: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Subordinators by language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge as this entire category tree is a mess. Mason (talk) 23:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one page in here Mason (talk) 15:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now it has two. Brett (talk) 16:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great! But that doesn't fix the other problem that the parent category only has this category in it. Mason (talk) 02:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now it too has two. Brett (talk) 12:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, two redundant category layers on top of each other. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Has obvious potential to grow. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. What Piotrus says. -- Hoary (talk) 22:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. --Brett (talk) 23:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Creating categories with single items does not solve the problem. @Brett why are you making categories with singles page in them? like, Category:Interrogative subordinators and Category:Declarative subordinators. This entire category scheme is a mess. Can someone (@Piotrus or @Hoary) please explain what the growth potential is? Mason (talk) 16:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    There are many other languages, thus the potential for Romanian interrogative subordinators, Ojibwa interrogative subordinators, etc. Brett (talk) 16:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But they don't exist right now. Potential for growth is not a metric used for evaluating categories (small cat no longer exists as a policy). Mason (talk) 18:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Mason, your nomination read(s): Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one page in here. Seems pretty reasonable. But by the time I noticed the existence of this little discussion, the category already had two pages. So your nomination, however reasonable and constructive, seemed obsolete when I first read it. Now you're asking about the creation of single-item categories. The question's reasonable enough, and arguably Brett was a naughty fellow for perpetrating just such a category. (Without thinking too deeply about the matter, I have a mixed opinion.) But I wonder why you're bringing up the matter here and now. If what you're now proposing is (i) that the entire category scheme is a mess plus (ii) some better alternative, then please make this explicit. -- Hoary (talk) 23:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for explaining your reasoning, that's helpful. I was asking because I didn't understand how potential for growth was related to the fact that this category is unhelpful for navigation. I think that both Category:Interrogative subordinators and Category:Declarative subordinators, should be deleted and that Category:Subordinators by language should be merged into the parent. I've updated the nomination Mason (talk) 23:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Brett@Marcocapelle@Piotrus, I've updated the nomination per @Hoary's request. Mason (talk) 23:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • One thing about the directory tree that clearly is not satisfactory as it stands is that Category:Declarative subordinators currently has but one member, That. The band-aid/elastoplast solution would be to hurriedly add the stub for a second. I'm not offering to do this -- not just because I loathe stubs, but because the article That, for starters, currently lacks a single mention of "subordinator" (even though, yes, it is a prototypical subordinator, for which please see The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language, passim). If the article were decent, its terminology could easily be updated. However, its section "Modern usage" is worthless. For me, fixing misinformation is more pressing than adding more information (let alone worrying about categorization). (Oh, and also, that "is not a thing": there are two ⟨that⟩ /ˈðæt/ homonyms, as far apart from each other as Galicia is from Galicia.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also support deletion of the two added categories, they are currently not helpful for navigation either. Possibly merge them to Category:English grammar. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 12:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:James Matisoff[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:James Matisoff

Category:Marine fauna researchers of the Gulf of California[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Marine fauna researchers of the Gulf of California

Category:Khanqahs by country[edit]

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Category:Sufi tekkes in Albania[edit]

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Category:Harbourmasters of Australia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, we categorize people who went to Australia as Australians, even if they were not born there. This was opposed for speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
@Smasongarrison and Jahaza: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename. Thanks for making the nom. Mason (talk) 21:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support as long as the spelling remains the same JarrahTree 09:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Food Network Star contestants[edit]

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Category:Roman Catholic theologians[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Roman Catholic theologians

Category:Top Chef contestants[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 15:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:PERFCAT. These people are notable for being chefs. --woodensuperman 09:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alpha Phi Omega members[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Membership in Alpha Phi Omega is not a determining condition. Naraht (talk) 08:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This category is empty. Next time, just tag it CSD C1 as an empty category and it will be deleted after a week. Liz Read! Talk! 19:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chess gambits[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Chess gambits

Category:Korean kings[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Korean kings

Category:Mythological nurses[edit]

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Category:Mythological Greek royalty[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Mythological Greek royalty

Category:Halls[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Halls

Category:Latin panegyrists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge as there is only one person in here, and there's no need to diffuse by genre. Mason (talk) 04:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Albania by municipality[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Albanian people by municipality. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 04:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional Columbidae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional doves and pigeons. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 T--C 15:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is also Category:Fictional doves and pigeons, which is the same thing. Kk.urban (talk) 03:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Garmen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:24, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is the only category in the People by municipality in Bulgaria tree. And it only has 1 page in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gang members by location[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:24, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Uzbekistani people by occupation and location[edit]

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Category:Tajikistani people by occupation and location[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 13#Category:Tajikistani people by occupation and location

Category:Cambodian people by occupation and location[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/rename. this category right now only has one category in it which isn't helpful for navigation. Rename this category as there isn't a Cambodian people by location category Mason (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree in principle with Marcocapelle, but would suggest: –Aidan721 (talk) 14:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bulgarian people by occupation and location[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one2 categories in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 01:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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