Talk:Dachshund

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Dachshund article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 360 days

This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.

Dogs Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Dogs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Canidae and commonly referred to as "dogs" and of which the domestic dog is but one of its many members, on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DogsWikipedia:WikiProject DogsTemplate:WikiProject DogsDogs articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Dogs To-do:

Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Dogs:

Recent changes patrol: members can review the recent changes list to be aware of improvements or vandalism.
Expand and improve citations: Akita (dog), American Bully, Artois Hound, Azawakh, Barbet (dog), Basset Fauve de Bretagne, Bavarian Mountain Hound, Bearded Collie, Beauceron, Berger Picard, Black and Tan Terrier, Black Norwegian Elkhound, Border Collie, Border Terrier, Bouvier des Ardennes, Bouvier des Flandres, Braque du Bourbonnais, Brazilian Terrier, Briquet Griffon Vendéen, Brittany (dog), Bullenbeisser, Bull Terrier, Ca de Bou, Cairn Terrier, Cardigan Welsh Corgi, Campeiro Bulldog, Central Asian Shepherd Dog, Chilean Terrier, Chow Chow, Colombian Fino Hound, Corsican Dog, Cretan Hound, Croatian Sheepdog, Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, Danish Spitz, Dingo, Dobermann, Dogue Brasileiro, Dunker, East Siberian Laika, English Cocker Spaniel, English Foxhound, English Toy Terrier (Black & Tan), Erbi Txakur, Estonian Hound, Estrela Mountain Dog, Finnish Lapphund, Flat-coated Retriever, French Bulldog, Galgo Español, Gaucho sheepdog, German Hound, German Shepherd, German Wirehaired Pointer, Glen of Imaal Terrier, Gordon Setter, Great Dane, Greek Harehound, Griffon Bruxellois, Guatemalan Dogo, Gull Dong, Halden Hound, Hamiltonstövare, Hanover Hound, Havanese dog, Hokkaido (dog), Hovawart, Ibizan Hound, Icelandic Sheepdog, Indian Spitz, Irish Setter, Irish Terrier, Irish Water Spaniel, Istrian Coarse-haired Hound, Jagdterrier, Jämthund, Kai Ken, Karakachan dog, Karelian Bear Dog, Karst Shepherd, Keeshond, Kokoni, Kooikerhondje, Koolie, Kuchi dog, Kuvasz, Labrador Retriever, Large Münsterländer, Lucas Terrier, Magyar Agár, Miniature Bull Terrier, Miniature Fox Terrier, Mongrel, Mountain Cur, Northern Inuit Dog, Norwegian Elkhound, Norwich Terrier, Old Danish Pointer, Old English Bulldog, Old English Sheepdog, Pastor Garafiano, Pastore della Lessinia e del Lagorai, Patterdale Terrier, Pekingese, Perro Majorero, Peruvian Hairless Dog, Petit Basset Griffon Vendéen, Pharaoh Hound, Plummer Terrier, Plott Hound, Polish Greyhound, Porcelaine, Portuguese Water Dog, Pudelpointer, Rajapalayam dog, Rat Terrier, Saarloos wolfdog, Sabueso Español, Saint Miguel Cattle Dog, Šarplaninac, Schipperke, Serrano Bulldog, Shikoku dog, Skye Terrier, Sloughi, Slovak Cuvac, Small Münsterländer, Smithfield (dog), Smooth Collie, South Russian Ovcharka, Spanish Water Dog, Standard Schnauzer, Swedish Vallhund, Tatra Shepherd Dog, Terceira Mastiff, Thai Bangkaew Dog, Tibetan Mastiff, Tibetan spaniel, Tornjak, Weimaraner, Welsh Hound, Welsh Terrier, West Siberian Laika, Westphalian Dachsbracke, Xoloitzcuintle, Xigou
Stub class articles in need of development: Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, Argentine pila dog, Armant (dog), Assyrian Mastiff, Banjara Hound, Billy (dog), Braque Dupuy, Bruno Jura Hound, Bulgarian Scenthound, Ca Rater Mallorquí, Calupoh, Campeiro Bulldog, Can de Chira, Cane Paratore, Cantabrian Water Dog, Chortai, Córdoba fighting dog, Denmark Feist, East European Shepherd, English Shepherd, Faroese Sheepdog, Gończy Polski, Grand Griffon Vendéen, Gull Dong, Hanover Hound, Hygen Hound, Japanese Terrier, Kaikadi (dog), Kars dog, Koyun dog, Kunming dog, Kurdish Mastiff, Levriero Sardo, Mahratta Hound, Majorca Ratter, Maneto, Markiesje, Molossus (dog), Montenegrin Mountain Hound, Rampur Greyhound, Romanian Mioritic Shepherd Dog, Sapsali, Sarabi dog, Schweizer Laufhund, Segugio Maremmano, Segugio dell'Appennino, Sinhala Hound, St. Hubert Jura Hound, Taigan, Tatra Shepherd Dog, Tazy, Toy Bulldog, Treeing Cur, Vikhan Sheepdog, Westphalian Dachsbracke, White Shepherd
Suggested Featured Articles due for re-assessment: Beagle (2007)
Suggested Good Articles due for re-assessment: Swift fox (2008); Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (2009); Clumber Spaniel (2009); Russian Spaniel (2009); Sussex Spaniel (2009)
Requested images: Briquet de Provence, Denmark Feist, Erbi Txakur, Jeju dog, Kaikadi (dog), Kars dog, Koyun dog, Levriero Sardo, Liangshan Dog, Perdigueiro Galego, Segugio dell'Appennino, St. Hubert Jura Hound, Tarsus çatalburun, Tibetan Kyi Apso, Vikhan Sheepdog, Villanuco de Las Encartaciones

Germany Mid‑importance

	Germany portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article lacks sufficient references and/or adequate inline citations. Once references have been added, remove the `\|unref=` from this template.

Doxon and doxie as nicknames for a dachshund

Are "doxon" or "doxie" valid nicknames for a "dachshund" ?

"Doxie" has been used for ever. It's a easier to read version of "dachsie" which is pronounced fairly similarly and is short for "dachshund."

"Doxon," "daschund," "dotson," "doxen," and "dash hound" are all misspellings/mispronunciations, with "dash hound" being probably the most common one. Just because it is common does not mean it is "equally correct." It is not a regionalism like, say, "aluminium" is, or a dialect difference such as speakers of AAVE using "axe" instead of "ask." An earlier comment suggested it was valid because "I've seen it used on Etsy." Etsy does not spell check its users' posts before they go live. Either the seller on Etsy cannot spell "dachshund," or they are banking on their buyers not being able to spell it and want to optimize their hits in the search.

Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 02:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately all that is Original research. ... Thanks, CJ [a Kiwi] in Oz 02:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are Etsy and eBay staff using the terms, or are users using the terms? If it's the latter, then it's not a reliable source (although it could be indicative of how the terms are being used). Let's find a better source before including. —C.Fred (talk) 15:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I just started working on "doxie" first of all.

Already one sees that currently on Wikipedia for "doxie" there is a hatnote back to dachshund.

So I did a search for: doxie dachshund on HighBeam Research (I wasn't aware of HighBeam's partnership with Wikipedia).

There were 54 results listed, and so I'll just include here a few of the most recent.

Being sufficiently recent for all these they showed up without needing to sign up for the partnership with HighBeam.

1. This one is from The Gazette (Colorado Springs) a Pulitzer Prize winning newspaper based in Colorado Springs, Colorado:

Hot dog is top dog when these Colorado Springs dachshund owners get together, (September 10, 2017)

2. This one is from a paper called the Northwest Herald:

Dachshund dogs to race in Sunset Doxie Derby in Lake in the Hills (August 25, 2017)

3. This one is from the Los Angeles Daily News:

Buck the Dachshund puppy is ready to play (August 18, 2017)

4. So this one is from The Spokesman-Review

Breast cancer survivors find support at 10th Komen Race for the Cure (April 27, 2015)

Please feel free to post any thoughts on that.

Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:33, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For a similar search of: doxon dachshund on HighBeam there's 0 results. So that's evidence that doxie has gotten to be more prevalent than doxon. Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And a search for just doxon on HighBeam is giving 26 results, but it doesn't seem that any of them are references to the dachshund dog breed. Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 01:45, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Name capitalization question

Is there a reason why dachshund in the text (as well as on at least one other page is lowercase? It looks like other dog names, even those not including a modifier that usually takes a capital (French, English, etc.), are capitalized:

I didn't want to make a change in case this was a particular element of how the breed is discussed. I really don't have a dog in this fight, to use a related expression; I just noticed the inconsistency and was wondering why it existed. nwatra (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:COMMONNAMES, common names ... except there they contain proper names or when such name starts in a sentence use lower case initial letters. I am assuming this applies to dogs. Here's a link that discusses caps in dog names: http://www.onlinegrammar.com.au/dog-breeds-and-capital-letters/. Seems to be "a trend towards more minimal capitalization" in the dog world, however, the names of animal breeds are often capitalized in publications produced by official breeders. As far as WP is concerned, I think we have to adhere to the "rules" set out in MOS:COMMONNAMES. So, dog names should not be capitalized unless they include a proper name or at the beginning of a sentence.-- BC _{talk to me} 22:16, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So it looks like a fair number of the other dog pages (and some cats and horses, based on some quick searching) are out of sync with MOS:COMMONNAMES. (Looks like this has been an question for a while; I feel like bringing them into alignment will be a big task. nwatra (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP should include something clear about caps and dog/cat/horse breeds. Consensus should be reached, and such consensus should relate to proper grammar (e.g. see above link) and the fact that there is supposedly a trend towards more minimal capitalization. IMO, WP should not adopt a capitalization policy based on the fact that official breeders' publications most often capitalize their breeds.-- BC _{talk to me} 21:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

External links part modified

Just added a link to educational article with a video about Dachshund. I think it will be very interesting for kids (video) and adultsMark.barkan (talk) 11:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization (or not) of military ranks

Re: German field marshal Erwin Rommel

A military rank or job title is capitalized when followed by a person's name to form a title, but not when modified. MOS:MILTERMS says "Military ranks follow the same capitalization guidelines as given under § Titles of people", and that section says "For fuller details, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies § Titles of people." The example there (in MOS:JOBTITLES) shows that a modified title is not capitalized: "Mao met with US president Richard Nixon in 1972." Of course, if not modified by the nationality, it would be changed to "Mao met with President Richard Nixon in 1972.", with "President" capitalized. So MOS:JOBTITLES takes precedence over the other two abridged sections of the MoS. Chris the speller ^yack 00:43, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]