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I’ve retargeted the various criticism redirects back there. It seems one person changed all of them. The criticism page was moved to “Practices of Apple Inc.” then to “Apple supply chain”. StreetcarEnjoyer(talk)02:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only comprehensive discussion of criticism I see remaining are in Apple supply chain and that's not, for the most part, direct criticism of Apple. I remember Criticism of Apple Inc./Practices of Apple Inc. had some of this meat but this has been deleted so we can't see exactly what was pared out and by whom. I know there is more about Apple that has received criticism in reliable sources than issues related to supply chain. There is still a lead paragraph that mentions this but not much remaining in the body supporting it especially anti-competitive practices. Can we get some balance back into our coverage please? ~Kvng (talk) 19:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we should create a "Criticism" section, with subsections for supply chain practices and environmental impact, which would be short sections pointing to Apple supply chain, Environmental impact of Apple, Apple and unions, App Store (Apple), and any pages that I've missed, or sections thereof, and redirect Criticism of Apple there. Either that, or just create that as a "Criticism of Apple" page, again pointing to the pages about said topics. For better or worse, criticism of Apple is scattered across pages about topics on which Apple has received criticism, rather than being combined into a single criticism page. Guy Harris (talk) 23:34, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Guy Harristhat is a technical discussion about the redirect, not a discussion of the merit of a criticism article. After criticism was (systematically?) dispersed or removed there was no clear and non-astonishing place to direct readers interested in the topic. ~Kvng (talk) 14:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was a discussion that resulted in the deletion of "Criticism of Apple Inc." - which was not a criticism article; it was a redirect to Apple Inc., if the head of the discussion is to be believed. Was "Criticism of Apple Inc." ever anything other than a redirect, whether to "Criticism of Apple", "Apple Inc.", or some other page? Guy Harris (talk) 17:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Criticism of Apple Inc." was moved to "Practices of Apple Inc." with, as far as I know, a redirect. And "Practices of Apple Inc." was moved to Apple supply chain, but some redirect was created under the name "Practices of Apple Inc.", as "Practices of Apple Inc." was, like the redirect "Criticism of Apple Inc.", deleted after [Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17#Practices of Apple Inc.|a discussion]].
Criticism about iPod design from 2006 or random blog about eco-packaging from a random year instead of a more thorough analysis of Apple’s eco practices would be two made up examples ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shushugah this did not answer either of my questions though it sounds like you have access to a version of the original article. I'm concerned about attribution issues if we don't preserve the history, see WP:CWW. Also it would be good to have a consensus on what material makes the cut and we can't do that if you're the only one with access to the source material. ~Kvng (talk) 23:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not an admin and do not have any more or less access than you do. I recreated the article, without regard for what was there in the past. A fresh pair of eyes and assessing what would be relevant for a reader if we were to write this article from scratch. That said, the old history of Criticism of Apple Inc. is visible at the present Apple supply chain, which was moved without redirect from Practices of Apple Inc.. See the diff of this page move ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 23:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Criticism of Apple Inc. was created, in its current form, from scratch, without resurrecting "Practices of Apple Inc.".
(Do not assume from the current lack of a "Practices of Apple Inc." page that "Practices of Apple Inc." was renamed to Apple supply chain without a redirect; the redirect did exist at one point, otherwise a request to delete it would probably not have been made in the first place and, even if it were made, would have been shot down rather quickly as "there's nothing to delete!".)
So what questions remain? All of the moving of stuff out of the criticism/practices page are in the history of Apple supply chain, in entries for 2023-01-15 and 2023-01-16 (those might be a good source of additional pages to which the top-level criticism pages should refer). I don't know whether there was any discussion of those moves, or if User:DFlhb just acted boldly. Guy Harris (talk) 00:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Declined You have not specified what to be changed. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 23:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
The redirect Criticism of Apple Inc. has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17 § Criticism of Apple Inc. until a consensus is reached. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)