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This star, with one point broken, symbolizes the featured candidates on Wikipedia.
This star, with one point broken, symbolizes the featured candidates on Wikipedia.

Featured pictures are images that add significantly to articles, either by illustrating article content particularly well, or being eye-catching to the point where users will want to read its accompanying article. Taking the adage that "a picture is worth a thousand words", the images featured on Wikipedia:Featured pictures should illustrate a Wikipedia article in such a way as to add significantly to that article, according to the featured picture criteria.

Promoting an image

If you believe an image should be featured, create a subpage (use the "For Nominations" field, below) and add the subpage to the current nominations section.

For promotion, if an image is listed here for ten days with five or more reviewers in support and the consensus is in its favor, it can be added to the Wikipedia:Featured pictures list. Consensus is generally regarded to be a two-thirds majority in support, including the nominator and/or creator of the image; however, anonymous votes are generally disregarded, as are opinions of sockpuppets.

All users may comment. However, only those who have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and with at least 100 edits will be included in the numerical count. If necessary, decisions about close candidacies will be made on a case-by-case basis. Nominations started in December are given three extra days, due to the holidays slowing down activity here.

The archive contains all opinions and comments collected for candidate nominations and their nomination results.

If you nominate an image here, please consider also uploading and nominating it at Commons to help ensure that the pictures can be used not just in the English Wikipedia but on all other Wikimedia projects as well.

Delisting an image

A featured picture can be nominated for delisting if you feel it no longer lives up to featured picture standards. You may also request a featured picture be replaced with a superior image. Create a subpage (use the "For Delists" field, below) and add the subpage to the current nominations section.

Please leave a note on the talk page of the original FPC nominator (and creator/uploader, if appropriate) to let them know the delisting is being debated. The user may be able to address the issues and avoid the delisting of the picture.

For delisting, if an image is listed here for ten days with five or more reviewers supporting a delist or replace, and the consensus is in its favor, it will be delisted from Wikipedia:Featured pictures. Consensus is generally regarded to be a two-thirds majority in support, including the nominator. Note that anonymous votes are generally disregarded, as are opinions of sockpuppets. However, images are sometimes delisted despite having fewer than five in support of their removal, and there is currently no consensus on how best to handle delist closures, except that:If the image to be delisted is not used in any articles by the time of closure, it must be delisted. If it is added to articles during the nomination, at least one week's stability is required for the nomination to be closed as "Kept". The nomination may be suspended if a week hasn't yet passed to give the rescue a chance.

Outside of the nominator, all voters are expected to have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and to have made a minimum of 100 edits. If necessary, decisions about close candidacies will be made on a case-by-case basis. As with regular nominations, delist nominations are given three extra days to run if started in December.

  • Note that delisting an image does not mean deleting it. Delisting from Featured pictures in no way affects the image's status in its article(s).
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Step 1:
Evaluate

Evaluate the merit of a nomination against the featured picture criteria. Most users reference terms from this page when evaluating nominations.
Step 2:
Create a subpage
For Nominations

To create a subpage of Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates for your nomination, add a title for the image you want to nominate in the field below (e.g., Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Labrador Retriever) and click the "Create new nomination" button.


For Delists (or Delist & Replace)

To create a subpage for your delist, add a title for the image you want to delist/replace in the field below and click the "Create new delist nomination" button.


Step 3:
Transclude and link

Transclude the newly created subpage to the Featured picture candidate list (direct link).

How to comment for Candidate Images

  • Write Support, if you approve of the picture. A reason is optional.
  • Write Oppose, followed by your reasoning, if you disapprove of the picture. All objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale that, if addressed, would make you support the image. If your concern is one that can only be addressed by the creator, and if they haven't nominated or commented on the image, and if they are a Wikipedian, you should notify them directly.
  • You can weak support or weak oppose instead, so that your opinion will be weighed as half of a "full" opinion.
    • To change your opinion, strike it out (with <s>...</s>) rather than removing it.
  • If you think a nominated image obviously fails the featured picture criteria, write Speedy close followed by your reasons. Nominations may be closed early if this is the case.
Recommendations added early in the process may be disregarded if they do not address concerns and/or improvements that arise later in the debate. Reviewers are advised to monitor the progress of a nomination and update their votes accordingly.
Prior to giving an opinion, the image should be assessed on its quality as displayed at full size (high-resolution) in an image editing program. Please note that the images are only displayed at thumbnail size on this page. The thumbnail links to the image description page which, in turn, links to the high-resolution version.

How to comment for Delist Images

  • Write Keep, followed by your reasons for keeping the picture.
  • Write Delist, followed by your reasons for delisting the picture.
  • Write Delist and Replace if you believe the image should be replaced by a better picture.
  • You can weak keep, weak delist or weak delist and replace instead, so that your opinion will be weighed as half of a "full" opinion.
    • To change your opinion, strike it out (with <s>...</s>) rather than removing it.
Please remember to be civil, not to bite the newbies and to comment on the image, not the person.

You may find the glossary useful when you encounter acronyms or jargon in other voters' comments. You can also link to it by using {{FPCgloss}}.

Editing candidates

If you feel you could improve a candidate by image editing, please feel free to do so, but do not overwrite or remove the original. Instead, upload your edit with a different file name (e.g., add "edit" to the file name), and display it below the original nomination. Edits should be appropriately captioned in sequential order (e.g., Edit 1, Edit 2, etc), and describe the modifications that have been applied.

Is my monitor adjusted correctly?

In a discussion about the brightness of an image, it is necessary to know if the computer display is properly adjusted. Displays differ greatly in their ability to show shadow detail. There are four dark grey circles in the adjacent image. If you can discern three (or even four) of the circles, your monitor can display shadow detail correctly. If you see fewer than three circles, you may need to adjust the monitor and/or computer display settings. Some displays cannot be adjusted for ideal shadow detail. Please take this into account when voting.

Displays also differ greatly in their ability to show highlight detail. There are light grey circles in the adjacent image. If you can discern three (or even four) of the circles, your monitor can display highlight detail correctly. If you see fewer than three circles, you may need to adjust the monitor and/or computer display settings (probably reduce the contrast setting). Some displays cannot be adjusted for ideal highlight detail. Please take this into account when voting.

On a gamma-adjusted display, the four circles in the color image blend into the background when seen from a few feet (roughly 75–150 cm) away. If they do not, you could adjust the gamma setting (found in the computer's settings, not on the display), until they do. This may be very difficult to attain, and a slight error is not detrimental. Uncorrected PC displays usually show the circles darker than the background. Note that the image must be viewed in original size (263 × 68 pixels) - if enlarged or reduced, results are not accurate.

Note that on most consumer LCD displays (laptop or flat screen), viewing angle strongly affects these images. Correct adjustment on one part of the screen might be incorrect on another part for a stationary head position. Click on the images for more technical information. If possible, calibration with a hardware monitor calibrator is recommended.
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Current nominations

McDonald Valley

Original - Photo of McDonald Valley in Glacier National park
Reason
Is of high resolution; photograph is among the best examples of a given subject that the encyclopedia has to offer.
Articles this image appears in
valley
Creator
BorisFromStockdale

Not promoted MER-C 12:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Lucifer Liege Luc Viatour

Original - A statue of Lucifer in white marble, by Guillaume Geefs (Cathedral of St. Paul, Liège, Belgium)
cropped
Reason
This picture is of good quality, as well as being a picture that contributes to the article it is placed in. The picture also has encyclopedic value. Overall, I believe that it would make a useful addition to Wikipedia Featured Pictures.
Articles this image appears in
Lucifer
Creator
Luc Viatour
I think that the space on the left of the image adds to the general effect of the image. If you care to edit it, I would appreciate any changes. J.T Pearson (talk) 12:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 12:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Albert Memorial

Original - The Albert Memorial in Kensington Gardens, London, was built in 1872 in honour of Prince Albert, husband of Queen Victoria.
Reason
An extreme high resolution image of the south face of the monument, showing almost as much detail as you could want (I said almost!) on a clear, sunny day.
Articles this image appears in
Albert Memorial
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted Image:Albert Memorial, London - May 2008.jpg MER-C 11:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Ox

Original true-tone high-dynamic range shot of adult Zebus in Pune,India
Reason
Image is highly encyclopedic, showing an adult Zebus found commonly in India. Cattles are major part of Agriculture in India and Hindu mythology. Picture is true-tone high-dynamic range shot. These are all done by taking the same shot with multiple exposures, combining the images, then tone-mapping the result. No distracting background.
Articles this image appears in
Ox
Creator
Ville Miettinen from Helsinki, Finland
  • Support as nominator gppande «talk» 15:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as it is to dark, not useful and too generic and it has clearly been highly edited so is fulse. UNI|SOUTH 17:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral I don't know what you mean by too dark, some places are almost washed out. Not useful? This is a good shot that shows the whole animal, and as such is very useful. Too generic? What would you like a cow to be doing, jumping through flaming hoops? This is a perfectly composed, highly encyclopedic image. The issues that keep me from supporting are the lack of sharpness over most of the cow, which appears to be a DOF issue, and the funny color graduation in the sky, going from dark blue, to light blue in a halo around the animal, and back to dark blue. Clegs (talk) 19:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I'd say there was a bit of artistic license involved, as I'm sure that vignetting isn't normal. It isn't evenly spread either. Might be due to the tone mapping or it might be a case of Photoshopping it in. It isn't a bad photo but neither is it an outstanding one. Its not that I'm calling it generic ( although generic is probably what we should want from a photo of a cow), but it takes up at most half of the frame, and I'd like to see it slightly more side on. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. HDR seems to be not only unnecessary, it also creates an unpleasing distracting vignetting effect. --Dschwen 21:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Very synthetic look, distracting contrast, vignette doesn't work well for this image, poor HDR processing... Capital photographer (talk) 01:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
can someone suggest some method to improve this image? The image is original one if it little bit of work is needed please suggest. --gppande «talk» 09:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the first thing is to remove the vignetting, but that is very difficult and I still don't think it would make it a featured picture to be honest. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 3/4 support. This will differ between displays, but I can hardly make out the vignetting that other people are seeing. There seems to be a little bit of noise on the skin flap under the animal's neck. I also would have preferred a more lenient crop at the hooves - I have to go full size to be able to see that they are, in fact, fully in the frame. I shouldn't have to do that. All in all, while it's not a typical encyclopaedic picture, it will make a good eyecatcher on the front page.
PS: Vignetting can be fixed to a large extent - enough to be imperceivable. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 16:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hardly see the vignetting!? The cow is in a brilliant glowing halo! And it's not something that needs to be corrected; it probably wasn't there in the first place, just a side effect of poor exposure combination. Thegreenj 20:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why you're yelling at me?!!??!?!111! Talk to my display if you feel the need to be juvenile. Srsly. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 10:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see neither caps nor boldface, why would you think anyone is yelling?!oneeleven --Dschwen 12:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Not promoted . --John254 05:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nymphenburg Palace

Original - The front view of the Nymphenburg Palace in Munich, Bavaria, Germany. This Baroque palace served as a summer residence for the rulers of Bavaria. Today, it is open to the public, but also continues to be a home and chancery for the head of the house of Wittelsbach, currently HRH Franz, Duke of Bavaria.
Edit 1 - Crop.
Edit 2 - Fixed tilt and brightened. (Latics (talk))
Edit 3 - Higher quality of edit 2. (Latics (talk))
Reason
I saw this picture on Commons Featured Picture Candidates and thought it deserved a chance here. It is of high quality and of value to the article.
Articles this image appears in
Nymphenburg Palace
Creator
user:Richard Bartz

Umm, this image is used only a gallery on Nymphenburg Palace, which would mean it doesn't really add value to the article. (I'm quite surprised everyone missed this.) Please find a better home for it. MER-C 11:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support (preference for edit 3) great image, meets all the criteria. 20:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Note:The above vote was made by User:Guest9999. SpencerT♦C 13:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Image-Schloss Nymphenburg Munich CC edit3.jpg, edit 2 without the artifacts. MER-C 11:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Threshold effect in image processing

Original - Example of a threshold effect having been applied to an image.
Composite by User:Nauticashades.
Reason
It's a nice example of how thresholding can be used to good effect. One may want to think about making a composite or hover-over with the original as an alternative.
Articles this image appears in
Thresholding (image processing)
Creator
Andrew Krizhanovsky (Андрей Крижановский)

Not promoted MER-C 06:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Burj Dubai Under Construction

Original - Burj Dubai's contsruction status on March 11, 2008.
Reason
The most noticeable feature of the towers' shadows, meets requirements, shows the contrast of Burj Dubai's height to other towers in the city. (This could be replaced when Burj Dubai has completed construction.)
Articles this image appears in
Burj Dubai
Creator
Aheilner
  • Support as nominator Rj1020 (talk) 07:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Not sure what my opinion on it is yet. It is above minimum requirements but I feel like I want to see a bit more detail in it. Also, I don't think it would be necessary to replace it when it is finished, as I'm sure the construction of it is valid enough for its inclusion in the article and a FP. We don't really feature things that have a lifespan (evolution in minimum criteria notwithstanding), so it either is FP material or it isn't. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just to avoid complications down the line, I don't think you can oppose an image on the basis of size if it meets the requirements, and you can't ask for "more detail", because a given resolution will only allow a certain amount of detail, so it goes back to the same criterion. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 15:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • What nonsense - you can always ask for more detail, even if an image passes the minimum resolution requirement, since we're looking for the best images on the project. For a panorama of a city, detail is hardly an unreasonable request. Pstuart84 Talk 17:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • You can ask for more detail, who says we have to settle for this resolution? It's only barely over the requirements. Someone has to retake the same scene at a higher resolution, simple as. And tee bee haytch, Diliff can ask for anything he likes around here. ;) —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 09:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Only appears in a gallery so I don't think it adds enough to the article.Guest9999 (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - interesting photo, but although it meets the requirements on size, it still doesn't display enough detail for the type of photo it is. Very few digital cameras shoot at such a low resolution as this - has it been downsampled? If so, can we see the original? It's had all its Exif data stripped, so I assume it's been put through Photoshop's Save for Web function or equivalent, to try to reduce the filesize. As such, it's easily possible it was downsampled beforehand. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 09:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. For a subject like this, a high res picture is needed. Clegs (talk) 14:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 06:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Eastern Lubber Grasshopper

Original - Eastern Lubber Grasshoppers, West Palm Beach, Florida, Summer 2007
Existing image in article Romalea guttata
Reason
a good photo
Articles this image appears in
Grasshopper, Romalea guttata
Creator
User:Tomfriedel

Promoted Image:Two_eastern_Lubber_grasshopers_(Romalea_microptera),_mating.jpg MER-C 11:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Rose-crowned Fruit-dove

Original - Rose-crowned Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus regina), a medium-sized dove of eastern Australia and Indonesia. This individual is approximately 20cm long.
Reason
This image provides excellent detail on feathers and colouring for this species; sharp and well-lit. Provided a quality image for a previously unillustrated article.
Articles this image appears in
Rose-crowned Fruit-dove
Creator
jjron

Not promoted MER-C 06:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Fruit and blossom of Cestrum tomentosum

Original - Fruit and blossom of Cestrum tomentosum.
Reason
One of the best and most encyclopedic photos of a plant I've seen in some time.
Articles this image appears in
Cestrum
Creator
commons:User:Mbdortmund

Not promoted MER-C 06:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Ryan Valentine scores

Original - Ryan Valentine scores the goal that keeps Wrexham in the Football League.
Reason
A FP at Commons which shows a great action shot of a English Association football match between Wrexham and Boston United with Ryan Valentine scoring a penalty kick to keep Wrexham in The Football League and relegate Boston United to Non-League football.
Articles this image appears in
Association football, Wrexham F.C., Boston United F.C., Penalty kick, Racecourse Ground, Steve Evans (footballer born 1962), Ryan Valentine
Creator
Markbarnes

Not promoted MER-C 06:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Names for association football


Preserve wildlife

Original - Poster for United States National Park Service, showing a deer drinking from a stream in the forest. 1 print on board (poster): silkscreen, color.
Edit 1 more sharpening
Reason
A high resolution, good quality example of Works Progress Administration artwork. Vintage poster from 1940. Restored version of Image:Preservewildlife.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Federal Art Project
Creator
Frank S. Nicholson

Promoted Image:Preservewildlifeb.jpg MER-C 06:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Fast breeder reactor

File:LMFBR schematics.svg
Original - The fast breeder or fast breeder reactor (FBR) is a fast neutron reactor designed to breed fuel by producing more fissile material than it consumes.
Edit - To address concerns.
Reason
Clear and informative picture. The world is now facing an energy crisis and fossil fuels are becoming global problem, so I want to attract attention to a new source of energy through which we can produce more clean energy than consume.
Articles this image appears in
Fast breeder reactor
Creator
Graevemoore

Promoted Image:LMFBR schematics2.svg --NauticaShades 14:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paradise Fish

Original - Paradise fish (Macropodus opercularis)
Other Version
Edit 1- Leaf removed
Reason
Nice colours and quality. has already been a selected picture on the Fish portal
Articles this image appears in
Paradise fish
Creator
André Karwath
Support Edit #3 - Changing my support - Support the new one without the leave. ← κεηηε∂γ (shout at me) 09:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Which would be Edit 1, unless you know something about a future 'Edit 3' that we don't? --jjron (talk) 13:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think he meant third version, edit 1. Muhammad(talk) 08:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes thank you Muhammad. I did of course mean #3, edit 1. And thanks jjron for acting like a fool, sparing me the embarrassment of having slightly incorrectly worded my support. ← κεηηε∂γ (shout at me) 14:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, "slightly incorrectly worded" both supports if you want to be picky. My apologies for wanting votes to be correct and clear for the closers. :-) --jjron (talk) 14:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original Oppose other Original is a nice encyclopedic shot that shows the whole fish and has very few tech problems. Other version has clear DOF issues.D-rew (talk) 16:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original although it would be better with some sense of scale, even if it's just in the caption. — BRIAN0918 • 2008-05-09 18:14Z
  • Support Original, Oppose Edit 1. As much as I like the second shot, the first is clearly more encyclopedic. NauticaShades 01:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original Great, high quality photo. Plant in the background could be removed, but not a big deal. The alternate doesn't show the fish as well as I'd like. crassic![talk] 02:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Macropodus opercularis - side (aka) edit.jpg MER-C 06:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]




Nominations older than 7 days - decision time!

Nominations in this category are older than seven days and are soon to be closed. Votes will still be accepted until closing of the nomination. Please close nominations from the bottom up.

Older nominations requiring additional input from users

These nominations have been moved here because consensus is impossible to determine without additional input from those who participated in the discussion. Usually this is because there was more than one edit of the image available, and no clear preference for one of them was determined. If you voted on these images previously, please update your vote to specify which edit(s) you are supporting.

Evening panorama of Upernavik, Greenland

Original - Midnight sun panorama of Upernavik, a typical, minor Greenlandic town in the arctic circle. Upernavik (pop. 1140) is the only town in the enormous Upernavik district, which covers an area comparable to the United kingdom. With only 0.015 persons/km2, the district is one of the least populated areas of the world.
Edit 1 by Jjron. Light improved in shadowy parts, noise reduced by downsampling to 1000 px high.
Edit2 by Mfield. Same shadow lift as Edit1 but no downsample, instead NoiseNinja and selective resharpen to keep full size of Original.
Edit3 for further processing by Slaunger. "Raw image". A restitch using the newest version of Hugin and fixing some soft spots in the original stitch. This 18MPixel image has been saved as JPG at a quality of 100% without any postprocessing. This edit should give much better possibilities for improvements by other image editors. 9051x2051 px as compared to Original 7720x1500 px.
Edit 4 - (PP of the restitch - Edit 3) by Mfield - selective noise reduction, local contrast enhancement and sharpening. 9051x2051 px.
Reason
A highly detailed panorama from an unusual place, which is not easily accessible. The prefabricated wooden houses are exported from Denmark by ship, assembled and painted in bright colors. The panorama is a stitch of 21 images taken between 11:42 pm and 11:50 pm on August 8, 2007.
Articles this image appears in
Upernavik (actually it is another shot from another day with a soft focus which presently appear in the article as pointed out by Jjron during peer review) -- Slaunger (talk) 11:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Creator
Slaunger
  • Support as nominator Slaunger (talk) 08:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I prefer the Original or Edit4. Although both of these edits (as well as Edit 3) are darker and less colorfull than Edit 1 and 2, I think they better represent the real scenario as it was. Nomatter which edit gets promoted, if any, I'd like to thank jjron and Mfield for spending some of their precious time on trying to improve my image. -- Slaunger (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support Weak Support Edit 1 - Support Edit 2 A nice scene. The image has an odd grain to it though, much like scanned 35mm film but could be JPEG compression noise. You can see it particularly in the sky and areas of shadow. User:Capital photographer|Capital photographer]] (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like jpeg compression artifacts rather than film grain (blockiness & mild Posterization) but not really noticeable at 100% Thisglad (talk) 09:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Each photo is in jpg from a Canon DIGITAL IXUS 800 IS set to super-fine jpg quality. In the stitching process, tif is output. After doing all the editing steps in tif I have saved to jpeg at a quality of 92/100 in GIMP (default is 85). It is my experience that at this quality level there is no clearly visible jpeg articfacts in the image. The grain/noise you probably has two sources. 1. The original photos. 2. The curve adjustment i have made to bring in some more light and contrast in the image. Given the equipment I think it is quite close to optimal. I have had a 30 cm long print ordered, and in the print no noise is seen. IMO this is mainly a perceived on-screen thing when viewing in close to 100%. Had I applied NR more agressively, details would have been lost. -- Slaunger (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • JPEG compression (even at "super fine") is always present and visible, both as artifacts and the way JPEG compression degrades colour fidelity (compresses 12 or 14bit colour camera sensors capture to 8bit~). Nothing much can be done without ill effect in post-production to remove the artifacts and restore colour fidelity, but given most camera have a TIFF and or RAW option, it can be avoided. It is a very nice image and the stitching is very well done. ~12bit colour captures 4096 colours, 14bit captures over 14,000 (Source: Canon), so compressing to 8bit gives 300-600 possible colours depending on who you talk to Capital photographer (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • OK. Unfortunately, my camera does not allow me to save in tif or raw format, so here we are. I could probably benefit form better equipment. Unfortunately such equipment has an exccedingly low WAF. -- Slaunger (talk) 11:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • actually there is a hack for canon DIGIC II based cameras that allow them to save to RAW, but I would bet the benefits of raw vs jpeg are minimal. Thisglad (talk) 11:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
            • Minimal? Raw can utilise the full 12bit colour (or 14bit on newer ones like the Canon 40D and Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III) the sensors can pick up so you get a larger gamut and smoother gradients. Also, it's not compressed so any subsequent saves will not result in repeated compression. Edit 1 improves it a lot, with very little artifacts in the housing area and noise reduced in the background. Anyway, because you had no choice but to use JPEG and Edit 1 is so good, I'll support. Capital photographer (talk) 11:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
              • for web display you have to convert to jpeg (sRGB) thus losing the benefit of the wider gamut of colors, raw does have a better dynamic range however Thisglad (talk) 12:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
              • Indeed, saving a final output for the web does negate some of the advantages of using TIFF or RAW. Regardless of the final output, the more in the original image, the more software has to work with for editing. Taking an image in JPEG, the colours are thrown away immediately. The final output may have a limited gamut, but more colours in the original allows an editor to have better control over what is output to the limited gamut rather than accepting whatever the camera chose to keep. Capital photographer (talk) 13:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
              • Echoing Cap Photographer's sentiments about RAW, I can tell you that there are definitely benefits to shooting in RAW, even if the end product is 8-bit JPEG. The end quality product is fundimentally dictated by the quality in which it is captured. Sure, if you have no intentions of editing an image after shooting it, perhaps JPEG will suffice, but as soon as you introduce ANY editing or processing, working from an 8-bit JPEG is inherently inferior. You argue that the wide gamut captured by RAW is lost when converting to SRGB. This is not true. The gamut is usually compressed but not lost as such. You still have the detail available in the RAW file, and you have control over how the colour is processed. For example, if you shot a JPEG of a very red image, if it exceeded the gamut range of sRGB, all red detail would be lost. If you shot it in RAW and were able to capture the red detail within the gamut of the RAW file, you would have the ability to compress the gamut while RETAINING the red detail, if you needed to. Similarly, you have slightly more dynamic range in a RAW file that you can selectively compress when processing the image, rather than losing it the instant the JPEG is created in the camera. Even Fir0002 was a vehement benefits-of-shooting-RAW denier until recently, when he saw the light. ;-) The benefits aren't obvious to a layman, but they are there if you know how to use them and you care about quality. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 13:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
                • Also, Capital Photographer, I assume when you said "~12bit colour captures 4096 colours, 14bit captures over 14,000 (Source: Canon), so compressing to 8bit gives 300-600 possible colours depending on who you talk to" that you didn't mean 4096 colours, but rather 4096 colour values per channel. By logic, 8-bit colour means 256 values, not 300-600, so I'm a little confused by what you mean depending on who you talk to. I don't see how the answer could be anything else but mathematic in nature (ie 8 bit = 2 to the power of 8 = 256, 12 bit = 2 to the power of 12 = 4096, etc). Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 13:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
                  • Of course it depends on which of the 10 kinds of people you talk to, those who understand binary or those who don't ;-) --Dschwen 15:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
                    • Yes, I did mean per channel. Most digital cameras are capable of 12bit capture (even if they can only output 8bit JPEG) which according to multiple sources including Canon will yield 4096 possible colour values per channel. Selected newer cameras will do 14bit resulting in over 16,000 possible values per channel. It is still being debated whether this increase actually means much despite the impressive jump in possible colours on paper. Most are agreed though that it does smooth colour graidents in an image. Comparing the shots from my old and now broken 350D to my 40D and 1Ds mkIII, I certainly see smoother gradients and more vivid colour range. Capital photographer (talk) 00:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
                    • Rofl, I had to read that line 10 times, that is, twice, before I got it! -- Slaunger (talk) 20:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Jjron has been kind enough to provide an edit which has better light in the shadowy parts, and less noise as a consequence of downsampling to a pixel height of 1000 pixels. -- Slaunger (talk) 11:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit 1, Weak Support Original. I don't really care about the camera or format used, this is a useful image of decent quality, and is from somewhere where we're probably not going to see many photos with this amount of information. Touches I like include the icebergs floating in the bay in contrast to the mainly rocky landscape, and the design of the buildings (though I'd prefer more info on the actual photo/setting in the image summary and less about how the pano was created). --jjron (talk) 13:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is really a lovely image, and encyclopedic. Spikebrennan (talk) 14:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment As I hate downsampling, I have added an edit inspired by Jjron's but that maintains the original size by tackling the noise problem with NoiseNinja instead. Selective reharpen instead of NoiseNinja USM to resharpen buildings without reintroducing noise into sky or causing haloing along horizon. Mfield (talk) 15:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank your for taking your time to do this edit Mfield. I am quite impressed by what you have accomplished although the previously shadowy region at the RHS of the port is quite noisy in the edit. Overall, I still think it is an improvement though. -- Slaunger (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem, ideally NoiseNinja would need to be applied to your full size original version before it was cropped and and sharpened - and then this problem would go away. There's too many sharpens and saves this way. Mfield (talk) 16:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You are correct about this. The edit path for your edit is non-optimal. Is there any way I could send you the enblended and stitched tif file, which is produced by Hugin? The file is on another compter but as I recall it is about 100Megs. -- Slaunger (talk) 19:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You may want to try saving it as a png, so it will be compressed losslessly, perhaps enough so (under 20MB) that you can upload it to Commons. Even so, I doubt it will be significantly different from a jpeg with less compression; jpeg is an excellent format, and I find there to be little difference between it and RAW/TIFF unless the photo has significant technical problems, like white balance or exposure. Thegreenj 00:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original It's taken under the midnight sun, so fiddling with light levels is losing the plot a bit. Good enc and pattern and interesting detail as above. It should also go in the Midnight sun article because it illustrates the sort of place that gets midnight sun and would lift that article considerably. But I am a bit puzzled as to how you have got a picture from the future Motmit (talk) 08:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Got me there on the date. Corrected! -- Slaunger (talk) 08:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A detailed photograph of an uncommon place. Muhammad(talk) 16:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I gave up sending or uploading the original TIF file that came out of the box, it was too large. I noticed some soft spots in the original stitch and I have therefore done a new stitch based on the latest SW releases. I have saved this new "raw" output as an 18MP 100% quality JPEG (edit3, 12 MB) such that other editors have better base material for doing edits. -- Slaunger (talk) 22:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll have a go at the new version today, hopefully there's still time to get it in before it closes. Mfield (talk) 07:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Here you go, Edit 4 added, I did the same NR and sharpening but no shadow lift as I think I prefer it without and there just isn't enough DR in the original to survive the operation nicely. Mfield (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, MField. Reviewers should note that the edit 3 restitch and the new edit by Mfield has a substantially larger pixel resolution, 9095x2051 pixels. The original, edit 1 and 2 looks brighter and more colorful. This is because of a general, global tonecurve adjustment and a tad added saturation in the original prior to downsampling to 7220x1500 px. -- Slaunger (talk) 06:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Edit2 and Edit4, Oppose Original and Edit1 Unecessary downsampling on Original and Edit1. Mfield (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure I understand that. You oppose the Original for "unecessary downsampling", yet support Edit2, which is...an edit of the original? --jjron (talk) 08:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I was mostly opposing the extra downsampled Edit1, I think the Original and Edit2 size is acceptable, yet I prefer Edit2 over the Original. I will move all my support to Edit4 though as it's all got rather confusing with so many versions. Mfield (talk) 15:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's almost as many images up for nomination as there are supporters... Which one? MER-C 12:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Upernavik_evening_panorama_edit4.jpg MER-C 06:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Suspended nominations

This section is for Featured Picture candidatures whose closure is postponed for additional editing, rendering, or copyright clarification.

Portrait of a Ladakh Woman

Original - A Ladakhi woman in a traditional dress and hat.
Edit 1 Noise removed.
version 3: Full resolution, unedited.
version 4:Edit of version 3 by Mfield
Reason
Beautifully lit and framed photo of a woman in traditional dress. Reminiscent of an Andrew Wyeth painting.
Articles this image appears in
Ladakh
Creator
Steve Evans (Flickr)

Suspended until 17 May pending high res version. --jjron (talk) 22:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nom re-opened May 18 No sense waiting much longer. Matt Deres (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Add version 4 that's about the best that I can get out of it with more time I don't have to spare. Its a very noisy original, I unfortunately had to downsample slightly (you know how I hate that) to combat some of it but its still 1300x2000. Mfield (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Version 4. The head dress sparkles in this version and the windows aren't 'blown'. Good job. Verne Equinox (talk) 22:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Version 4. Mfield (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support version 4 The hair looks grainy, though. SpencerT♦C 01:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Version 4. Too much noise, sorry. Kyle McInnes (talk) 10:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose all. Those which aren't too small are too noisy. Pstuart84 Talk 12:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Technically, they're all above minimum size. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I hope you're not becoming preoccupied by my interpretation of the size requirement, but essentially it's a minimum and just because a photo is above the minimum doesn't mean the size is suitable for the subject in question. Pstuart84 Talk 15:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Don't worry. There is ongoing debate about this. It ultimately comes down to this: if the de facto size requirement has changed, that should be reflected in the criteria. On the other hand though, we have to be careful not to base our size requirement on what the camera can do, but what is a sensible size that conveys all the pertinent information, e.g. do I need to be able to see individual hairs on the trunk of an elephant for it to be an FP? What about the fine structure of a person's clothing? Wouldn't it be nice to see that? And already, you've thrown out a whole load of historic images where we have no hope of obtaining a copy at the appropriate resolution because, well, history happens only once. Same for extinct animals or people, subjects no longer in public view, etc. etc. Any further raising of the bar will increase systemic bias. Does that make sense? Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 19:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 10:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Closing procedure

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Nominations for delisting

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F1 car

Mark Webber at 2004 US F1 Grand Prix
Reason
Fails size requirement, tilted.
Nominator
Pstuart84 Talk

Delisted MER-C 12:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Veined leaf

Veined leaf
Reason
Low resolution, poor composition (cut off on three sides), reproducible
Nominator
Pstuart84 Talk

Kept MER-C 12:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coyote

Coyote
Reason
Cut off, especially the ear. Cute rather than encyclopedic.
Nominator
Pstuart84 Talk

Kept MER-C 12:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eiffel Tower

Eiffel Tower at sunrise
Reason
Very blurry; more notable for artistic lighting than encyclopeidic value.
Nominator
Pstuart84 Talk

Kept MER-C 12:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delist closing procedure

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If consensus is to KEEP featured picture status, and the image is used in at least one article, perform the following:

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