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Hi, i also created Henry C. Nevins Home for Aged and Incurables stub article. It is down the street from Nevins Memorial Library. Those are the only two hits on "Nevins" in the NRHP that i can find (besides a "Nevins Bridge" in Indiana that appears to be unrelated). Also, FYI, I checked and find no hits on "Blackburn". I linked to this Home for Aged and Incurables from the library article. Feel free to work in mention of this Home for Aged and Incurables into your Harriet Nevins article, or elsewhere, or not.
I wish the NRHP nomination documents for MA sites were available on-line, as they are for NYS and some other states' sites. NRHP nomination documents often include biographies of significant persons associated with a given site, so i imagine there is useful info in them about the lives of Henry C. Nevins and about Harriet Nevins. You can obtain these documents anyhow, by email request to nr_reference (at) nps.gov, to be sent to you by postal mail, at no charge, although they say it takes about 2 weeks for u to get them. Perhaps you should try putting in requests for the library and the Home, anyhow, to get info that might be added to Harriet Nevins article later? Cheers, doncram (talk) 17:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. I appreciate this information. It's great that you discovered the existance of and created an article about the old age home. I thought about contacting the library but in similar situations I've sometimes encountered people who are either anti-Wiki or who are unaware of it and react with a somewhat flustered "explain to me ten more times what this is for" attitude so it might be more trouble for me than it's worth. I'm eager to incorporate the info about the nursing home into the Nevins' articles. Thanks very much. - Boston (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, without knowing when David died I'm confused about which legacies were a gift from both of them and which were from her as a memorial to him. I am going to try a phonecall to the library and follow up with emails as needed. I sort of forgot libraries have reference librarians whose job it is to dispense info, not to grill the someone as to why the query is being made! - Boston (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nevens Family Info
According to a 4 August 2008 communication from Sharon Morley, Reference Librarian at Nevins Memorial Library:
David Nevins Sr. was born in Salem NH on December 12, 1839 To John
and Achsah Swan Nevins. When he reached 21, he moved to New Bedford
and sold supplies to the crews of the whaling vessels. In 1818,
Nevins married Eliza Coffin. She was the daughter wealthy ship
merchant Jared Coffin of Nantucket.
Nevins later went in to business importing cloth. In 1842,
protective taxes began hurting the textile importing business, so
Nevins switched to manufacturing textiles instead. In 1859, he
purchased the ill-fated Pemberton Mill, and in 1864, he purchased
the Methuen Cotton Company on the Spicket River.
Mr. & Mrs. David Nevins Sr. and their two sons returned to the
Methuen area in the early to mid 1860's. David Sr. Died in 1881 at
the age of 72. His wife and sons had the Nevins Memorial Library
built as a memorial to him.
David Nevin's sons, David Jr. and Henry Coffin Nevins took over the
manufacturing businesses when their father Died.
David Jr. born JULY 30, 1839 ran the textile mills which by that
time included India Bagging Company and Bengal Bagging Company in
Salem, MA.
Henry c. born on January 10, 1843 became the agent of the family's
textile brokerage firm called Nevins and Company.
Not only did the company sell the cloth from the Nevins' family
mills, but by this time it was importing textiles from abroad.
David Jr. Died in 1898 and Henry in 1892.
David Nevins Sr. born-Dec.12, 1809-died-March 19, 1881
Eliza Coffin Nevins born June 1, 1817 - died Dec. 30, 1895
David Nevins Jr. Born Jul 30, 1839 - Died Aug 24, 1898
Henry Coffin Nevins Born Jan. 10, 1843-Died June 25, 1892
Within 24 hours I will make sure all the Nevins-related articles we've discussed are in synch with this new information. - Boston (talk) 19:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In response to the pronounciation of Colbert's surname, it says (and is referenced) that:
Colbert sometimes comedically claims his surname is French, but his family is actually of Irish descent. Originally, the name was pronounced [ˈkoʊɫ.bɚt]; Stephen Colbert's father, James, wanted to pronounce the name [koʊɫˈbεɹ], but maintained the [ˈkoʊɫ.bɚt] pronunciation out of respect for his own father (Stephen's grandfather). However, James offered his children the option to pronounce the name whichever way they preferred. Stephen started using [koʊɫˈbεɹ] later in life when he transferred to Northwestern University, taking advantage of the opportunity to reinvent himself in a new place where no one knew him.
I'm therefore guessing that he still pronounces it with the silent "T".
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I've posted a note there you might be interested in. See, if you're planning to do SUL with the Boston account, note that the Russian Wikipedia account has 10 edits, but is blocked indefinitely since 11 June 2008 for personal attacks. The Swedish Wikipedia account may also be a problem, as it has 40 edits. Maxim (☎)14:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please go ahead and add it to DYK if you can think of a suitable hook; I seem to be running into a mental block and can't think of a good one. Thanks, –Black Falcon(Talk)20:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. :) The article currently contains 1523 bytes of "main body prose", so it just barely qualifies as is. I'll try to see whether I can find a few other sources to use to expand the article a little bit more. –Black Falcon(Talk)20:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. :) I was just admiring your DYKs and noticed a possible error in the one featuring Castletownroche. It seems to indicate that he was apprehended by the "garda"? But which one? Surely he was apprehended by either the gardaí or An Garda Síochána? Perhaps you simply made an error in transferring it but my curiosity got the better of me and I was just wondering if it featured on the Main Page in that form? --Candlewicke (Talk) 03:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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No you didn't make an edit conflict. ;) By the way, could you review Joe Connor again? I added an alternate hook, and PeterSymonds (talk·contribs) said it is okay, but he suggested you approve it yourself. Thanks! Now I have to finish with the next update... -- RyRy (talk) 02:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the original hooks is actually tighter (I also thought for a moment that only 350 times was sarcasm) but it's no worry either way; choose the one you want . Congrats on the milestone. - Boston (talk) 03:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Also, PeterSymonds asked that you put the tick yourself. ;) Oh, and great job on all those DYKs above. Wow! -- RyRy (talk) 03:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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No problem, I replaced the copyright tag with an unreferenced tag. It is a good start-class article and appears to be well-written. The problem is, it still lacks the references to satisfy Wikipedia:Verifiability. Thanks for the message, --Jh12 (talk) 01:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure. I spend about 95% of my effort writing articles for DYK but try to contribute to "process" on occassion as well. Congratulations on your article and keep up the good work. - Boston (talk) 16:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Taxoboxes
Actually, I don't mind the taxobox errors all that much (I make stupid copy-pasting errors all. the. frickin'. time. over at Wiktionary), but if you could take a bit more time to add a relevant category or two to your new articles, that would be swell ;-) Circeus (talk) 22:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe. Often, maybe even most of the time, I do. I'll watch that more carefully though! Haste makes waste and all that. Thanks. - Boston (talk) 22:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Irene
This can be explained by the "critical response" section. I don't revert what other people do. However, I might recommend that you rephrase it to say: "It has the distinction of being the work that Johnson and his critics agreed is his greatest failure". Johnson did dislike the work afterwards, as did most of his critics. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In case there's confusion, I added the [citation needed] prompt but don't object to the wording. The statement as given now, as well as your alternative suggestion, do both require an in-line citation. - Boston (talk) 17:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is what MOS says on the issue: "Because the lead will usually repeat information also in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Leads are usually written at a greater level of generality than the body, and information in the lead section of non-controversial subjects is less likely to be challenged and less likely to require a source; there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads. The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus. Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations; others, few or none. Contentious material about living persons must be cited every time, regardless of the level of generality." However, there is no material available to suggest that Johnson et al thought that the play was good or a commercial success, so I don't know if it falls under "controversial" enough to warrant duplicate citations. However, if you raise the concern, then it automatically suggests that it could. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I am missing something or perhaps you're overthinking this (or both) -- Why not just add the citations if they can be added? - 17:51, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding those in-line references. I am happy to help you understand if I can. Basically, whenever there's a statement like (for example) "...is widely-considered a delicacy" or "...was regarded as his greatest failure/success" or anything like that, it's a good idea to show an inline citation to make it clear that the point of view being discussed is verifiable and is not just the editor's own POV or own conclusion. I'm not sure where this is explained in the MOS or similar documents, but after a time you'll probably come to instantly recognize where these are needed. Happy editing. - Boston (talk) 18:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Its not really my understanding, because I know what you were saying. :) I just want to make sure that others in the future realize the process, so there wont be any problems. Paper work, I guess you could say? Anyway, thanks for looking out for the page. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 18:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yeah I have slipped in a few unreferenced statements. It's encouraging that somebody's noticing though! Thanks. Dunno if Irish singing is your thing (it is mine, in case you haven't noticed) but if so, I'd love your feedback on some of my articles particularly Frank Harte. Cheers. --Seamasmac (talk) 21:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Thx for the barnstar - I again feel like "a city on a hill" ... feels good. I shall think of my barnstar as a civic roll (with bacon!) cheers Victuallers (talk) 22:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The Did you know? hook based on a fact from the article you created or substantially expanded, Photuris pennsylvanica, has been added to the Wikipedia Portal, Portal:Pennsylvania. Thank you for your contributions in this topic! If you know of another relevant fact from an article that has appeared at Did you know?, then please suggest it at the associated portal talk page.
For the exceptional amount you have contributed to the wild and wacky world of WP:DYK (how many more "W"s can you have in a sentence?), I present you the coveted 100 DYK medal. Keep up your excellant work. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed]02:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Well, for a while I was cranking out a few day and I had them backlogged in my sandbox. I've slowed down in the last few days and may be getting Wikipedia out of my system for a while! - Boston (talk) 20:11, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DYK hooks
Hi colleague. I've been campaigning for what I call "shorter, sharper hooks" for 2 years and will probably continue to do so. I respect your work on DYK and respectfully understand that other editors will have opinions differing from mine. Please don't take it personally when I identify how I would change hooks you suggest. I'm not implying you do take it personally...I'm only saying this to promote wikilove and all the stuff! We can disagree about this forever and I'll still be happy to work with you. Best wishes and happy editing. - Boston (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PS - I'm a great admirer of your "unwritten rules" and a few weeks ago was actually wondering why you didn't say anything about brevity of hooks along the lines of "shorter is generally better." Now I know why! (smile) - Boston (talk) 00:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Boston. Thank you for the msg. I hope you didn't think that I was upset or anything. I like your work, too. Like you, I prefer shorter, sharper hooks. However, IMO, "sharper" is more important than "shorter". Shorter is indeed generally better, but it's good to have a little extra info so that any general readers (esp. those not familiar with the topic) can appreciate the hook better, and add a little colour and hue so as to paint a nicer picture, so to speak. Hooks that are too short and lack context would appear to be esoteric, and readers would (or at least I would) just give up and move on to the next hook. You will probably disagree about this and I'll still be happy to work with you in DYK, too. It's probably best for us to just leave our comments on T:TDYK and let the hook selectors decide what ends up on MainPage. Oh, btw, User:Art LaPella is not my sock. :-) Happy editing. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 01:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't think you were a sock...that was just a mindless error on my part because I was watching Lord of the Rings and trying to articulate at the same time! Nor did I think you were upset; I just thought some preventative medicine wouldn't hurt. As for the actual matter under discussion, I guess we both value brevity, only to much different degrees. The cases where I've suggested a cutting a hook way back and someone adds some of it back is exemplary of collaborative editing at its best. Thanks for the note and best wishes. - Boston (talk) 02:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It should read "and John Boyle O'Reilly, many of which were written in Irish?" Thank you for proofreading and catching my omission. Enjoy the day!Scanlan (talk) 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The old user name made a wrong first impression. Also, HoS is a screen name I have been using since 1995 and I still use on various sites and I just wanted to disassociate the encyclopedic me from the more carnal me. It's nice for someone to have noticed the name change enough to comment though! Thanks for that and for the DYK note. - Boston (talk) 02:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Terrific new article - and I am curious. Huffing and puffing my way through Fauna of Scotland I decided it had too many red links and bashed in a few new species articles which led me down various highways and byways. I red linked "Pteridomania" on two or three of them as it seemed like a credible topic. Was its appearance shortly thereafter a co-incidence, or did the red links prompt something? Also, I note the article does not mention the devastating effects on rare species in upland Britain. It'd be easy enough to cut and paste a few anecdotes from Woodsia alpina (the story about Williams is farcical), Woodsia ilvensis, Trichomanes speciosum, Cystopteris dickieana. BenMacDui10:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the positive appraisal; likewise, you do a great job on the topics you handle. I recall intending to mention the negative effects of pteridomania on certain native species, but since I didn't follow through the addition of material explaining that (all neat and cited, of course) would be great. As best I remember, my creation of the pteridomania article was prompted by the red link in the Cystopteris dickieana article. Some red links are too tempting to not write about. For me, pteridomania was one and, more recently, "Chinese Hand Laundry Alliance was another. Boston (talk) 17:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did a bit of delving whilst I was patrolling new pages and found this article Chris Valagao. I have removed the notability tag you placed as I dug deeper and found that he and his band have been featured in MTV and have other references to their name as well as being 12 years old (the band) and having multiple CDs released. If you disagree, please put the tag back and begin a discussion of the articles talk page. Thanks, have a nice day! :-) fr33kman (talk) 03:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Wow, you've been a DYK machine lately. Great job - keep it up! I'm surprised to see an article on a drumlin - it's always good to see geology articles. --Royalbroil01:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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and btw great work on that article of Henri Lhote, I didn't realise all that stuff about him when I set up the translation a few days ago. The credit is to you! Cheers, Eebahgum (talk) 23:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, we'll share credit. BTW...my version of the Henri Lhote article was already in my sandbox when you posted the article. Did I make a Henri Lhote-related edit on mainspace that prompted you? I'm just curious. - Boston (talk) 00:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. My first thought after your response was that you must have done some edit in mainspace that I saw instead of the other way around as I suggested. However, I recall coming to Henri Lhote from Arbre du Ténéré, and I got there from List of trees, so it really is a coincidence. Happy editing. Boston (talk) 01:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, I read the header and waiting those moments for the page to load you did have me fooled! I thought your were a dumb and overzealous bot. Thanks for the note. Boston (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DYK
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I took the photo and the meta-information should match that of many other photos I've uploaded. I've seen photos of other product packages on Wikipedia...is that not allowed now either? Please explain. Thanks. - Boston (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately I can't be held responsible for not notifying you — that's the job of the person who tags the image.
I'm not sure that the image qualifies for inclusion on Wikipedia as it incorporates copyrighted designs. However, if Commons accepts it, then you should upload it there. Alternatively, I can restore the image and list it on WP:IFD, where it'll get more notice. Stifle (talk) 19:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Just lettin ya know i've put up this article for deletion. I saw your comments on the article's talkpage, and noticed how you tried to legitimise and save the article way back in 2006. Man it was total misinformation before you took a crack at it, but still i think it ought to be deleted. Here's the link to the afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Thomas O'Higgins.--Celtus (talk) 05:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the note. I voted opined to delete. 15:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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