User talk:Bishonen

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Re: Permalink

Thank you very much, I didn't expect it to be that simple. Skäpperöd (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Cool. :-) Your account name looks completely Swedish to me. Are you really German? Bishonen (skål tammefan!) 19:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

There were times when Skåne was my second home :) Skäpperöd (talk) 16:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

You mean it's pure dumb luck that you're not User:Kropp, or User:Kvennaböske? Bishonen | talk 00:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC).

The username is not completely random, but my RL identity can not be traced from the name itself without further information (which I won't post here). I don't speak Swedish though, the year I shuttled between my residence and Skåne I used English. I learned some Swedish, but since I had no practice, I forgot most of it, and my Swedish is now limited to "öl" and "jag älskar dig". Back when I was more fluent in (Scanian) Swedish, I tried to make myself understood further north, and they told me that what I had learned was in fact Danish :( Skäpperöd (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

RFC/USER discussion concerning you

Hello, Bishonen. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Bishonen 4, where you may want to participate. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Ms. Bishonen. To be honest, OR does have acceptable writing skills, I'm really not sure why he would choose to engage in such disruptive behavior. I wouldn't worry about the RFC thing - doesn't seem to have any merit to it (and I've read through a lot of the diffs). IIRC Probably having one of those cupcakes is the standard in these cases. Cheers. ;) — Ched :  ?  19:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm behind the events, as usual

You're back? Glad to see you here, & hope it's not due to reasons of addiction. -- llywrch (talk) 16:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Llywrch. Was I gone..? Well, it is due to that, sort of. There's little enough enjoyment to be had these days.[1] Bishonen | talk 18:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC).

Well someone signed your name to an email to me that said you were leaving. Anyway, glad to see one of the "Old Bolsheviks" of the Wikipedia revolution still around. :) -- llywrch (talk) 20:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I know, you would rather have cupcakes ...

... but I thought this might be more practical. Safety first. — Ched :  ?  21:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

safety equipment for "toxic" environments

What a kind thought, can I have one too? No dear, not a cupcake - a firefighter; I have always had a penchant for them. On the meantime, dearest Mrs Bishonen, have no fear at all - if it looks like turning nasty, I shall instruct my nephew to ride in to the page and your rescue; the dear boy is always such a soothing balm to inflammable situations. Lady Catherine de Burgh (the Late) (talk) 21:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

OMG, keep Giano out of there! Don't I have enough problems? Bishonen | talk 00:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC).

Why honorable lady Catherine - I had no idea you had an interest in such things in the physical realm. I am merely an organizer of sorts, but I shall certainly mention your generous offer to the young lads down at my local firehall. I can't imagine any of them declining such an educational experience. Giano? soothing balm? ... I don't recall those words being placed quite like that in any previous threads. Always something new to learn here. ;) — Ched :  ?  01:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh that's most kind Ched, could you get me an Italian one, such a beautiful race - all the men are so hansome and virile, compared to other races. Really, I'm surprised Mrs Bishonen doesn't think more of her figure and forego the cup cakes and utilise a fireman instead. Now regarding this other silly business, I really think it would be a excellent good idea if you asked dearest darlngestGiano to help you out - you only have to say the word and it will be crash, bang, wallop - problem solved. The dear gentle boy has a way with problems, I'm surprised you have not noticed. Lady Catherine de Burgh (the Late) (talk) 17:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Honorable lady Catherine, while I can not speak to the male gender, I must say that I do indeed admire, appreciate, and adore the sultry beauty of the Italian females. My sister's first marriage was to a pure Italian family, and I learned (and occasionally lusted) much during those years. The beautiful dark hair, the passionate eyes ... and the food? ... sigh, would that I could meet a mature Italian woman to share my declining remaining years with. The emotion and passion may be slightly intimidating to those who are unfamiliar with the nationality, but it is surely a joy to behold when one does not take things personally. I shall indeed mention your most generous offer at our next meeting.

Ms. Bishonen, I suspect that were your position and mine reversed that you might advise me to simply ignore some of these recent attacks. It is quite clear that the bulk of the community has found the allegations to be empty and without merit. Hopefully those engaged in these disruptive efforts will soon return to the task of building our content - actually there are some abilities available to those wishing to do so. I do have to admit that I admire your restraint in recent days, and I shall attempt to model my own efforts after your considerable maturity and calmness. I do hope this entire incident has not troubled you too much, as I realize that you have much better things to do with your time. Please take good care of yourself, and I look forward to seeing you out there. Cheers and all my best ;) — Ched :  ?  05:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Status report

So now Majorly has admitted the Rfc is not correctly certified, and that its a joke and he is the butt of it.[2]

However, he's been arguing against cupcakes as disruptive and an abuse of - get this - process, with which he is suddenly enamored. Well, love can sneak up on you like that, who am I to judge? I have commented on both the Rfc talk page[3] as well as his page[4] noting this sudden volte-face; I have requested he clear up the confusion generated by his conflicting statements.

Meanwhile, over at the Rfc Mfd - it almost sings, does it not? I have, alas, been forced to place a "weak keep" - there are, after all, now the cupcakes to consider! Not to mention (and I didn't) if and when another drama monger with a chip on his shoulder and a severe case of IDIDNTHEARTHAT opens yet another absurd Rfc on you, how shall they number their placement of the cupcakes? Will they count Hiemies cupcakes as four, and theirs as five, or will H's valiant carrying of the torch be relegated to an unread footnote to history, and counting resume at four yet again? You see the issues. I am still ill, but currently somewhat diverted. Yours, KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 13:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Majorly can say whatever he wants, but two people have signed off on it and have shown that they were involved in trying to stop Geogre and his actions while Bishonen was furthering them. That is enough to meet the standard requirement of an RfC/U. The section below is to verify that there cannot be any technical concerns. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

Please explain why you aided Geogre's sock puppetry and resign. I ask because people feel that attempts to have you explain yourself and resign before an RfC/U has been made have not been attempted. This is to allow you the chance to do the above before it would be reopened if it is closed on the grounds. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

This is not dispute resolution, Ottava. DR would be "I think you aided Geogre's socking, dif dif dif, do you concede that, and if not, please explain your actions. I would also like to know if you plan to do this sort of thing in the future". What you've done is made an accusation with no difs, and then demanded she resign. That's not even close to dispute resolution. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 14:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

I never said -this- was dispute resolution. I am trying to resolve the issue directly at her talk page so there is clear proof that there was an attempt that you can't try to claim does not exist. I am tired of dealing with technicalities. As per your response, this will clearly be a failed attempt to resolve the problem. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

In other words, it was intended to be a failed attempt. --Akhilleus (talk) 14:32, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

That doesn't work, Ottava. You cannot make a "fake" attempt so you can "get on with" an Rfc. You have to actually, truly, try to resolve the issue. Otherwise, it isn't really an attempt at all, so you still have not met the requirement. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 14:37, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Since when were you put in charge of RfC/U? You sure do speak as if you have knowledge when the rules are quite liberal and relaxed. You aren't speaking objectively in any kind of manner, and I find it troubling that you are defending someone who hid a sock puppet that was used abusively for a very long time. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:43, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

No. If she apologized to the community for aiding Geogre's socking for a year and resigned, then I would drop the matter. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

To Ottava Rima

For the past week or two, I have been a silent target for your random inventions and ugly fantasies. [5][6][7][8] But I draw the line at you pestering me on this page. If there is anything you would actually like to know, as opposed to some abuse of me that you would like to get off your chest, you will have to get some ordinary, decent user to ask an appropriate question for you. Sorry. With some violence to my finer feelings, I am leaving your unpleasant foolishness above in place — for the moment. Any further post from you on this page will be removed. I request other users to help with this in case I'm not around. Bishonen | talk 17:23, 10 October 2009 (UTC).

P.S. Vexatious litigation by Ottava Rima

[9] Bishonen | talk 17:46, 10 October 2009 (UTC).

<Snicker>

[10] Oh my. Well, let's see, there's the case I have to vote on, with the proposed decision just being posted in the last 24 hours, plus an Audit Subcommittee report being pushed through the system, but otherwise I have been doing things that I came here to do in the first place, i.e. reading and working on content-related matters. A change is as good as a rest, so I hear. All I know is I had more fun reading and doing a bit of copy editing the other night than I have on Wikipedia for some time. Glad to see that other little matter has been resolved. Risker (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Glad to hear it! Thanks for dealing so ably with the "little matter". That must have taken a horrible long time; your History tab is a nightmare. Bishonen | talk 22:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

Wot, no cupcakes?

I turn my back for five minutes and the place goes to the dogs, commonsense ignored, proud traditions overturned. I hope this small gesture restores some much-needed gravitas to the situation. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 21:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

[bishapod runs off, stuffing entire cupcake in his mouth. Chokes.]. Argh. Excuse Little Stupid, Slim. I guess he just wanted to make sure it's safe. [Pointedly.] I really need more cupcakes nowadays, with this big, hungry family. I hope people will keep that in mind at RFC/Bishonen 5, 6, 7, and 8. Bishonen | talk 23:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

Truly, the most beautiful cupcake I have ever seen.... Salivatingly, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

It's quite a posh one, unlike the terribly common ones I've seen inflicted on Bish in the past. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 03:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

"Terribly common"? Fine, no one likes my cupcakes, I'm gonna take my batter and frosting and go home. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 14:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Heh, I knew insulting the precious cupcakes would bring Puppy to the page. :) SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 19:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh Pbbbblllllgh. I am so predictable. KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 19:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

But in the nicest possible way. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 19:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

[Bishapod, indistinctly, through a shower of crumbs: ] Little Stupid love all cupcakes with sweets on top! bishapod splash! 15:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC).

• It is indeed posh. I believe Bishzilla prefers the ones on fire, though. Bishonen | talk 10:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC).
  • I did make a call on the now deleted pages, that our time might better be spent creating a cupcake template for subsequent vexatious RFCs. It's a waste of everyone's time all this baking. --Joopercoopers (talk) 12:35, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
    • Nooo! Create cupcake temple! Taj Mahal of cupcakes! bishapod splash! 15:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC).
      • I agree with bishapod, cupcakes are to be celebrated in every possible way. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 20:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Restoration Spectacular

FYI. – iridescent 19:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I was just about to do that, i was just finishing my review. Simply south (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Who exactly is Bobby Boulders?

Who is Bobby Boulders? I've looked into his sock puppets and other things, and I noticed that you were the one who originally blocked his account. From what I can see, is he just some crazy guy with nothing better to do than vandalize? I'm thinking about creating a humourous userbox, perhaps about him. Mr. Wayne (talk) 23:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

m?

Why did you remove sourced content and shorten a quotation from the Black and Tans article while marking it m for minor edit? It's quite a significant thing to change content from within quotation marks - please support your edit on the talk page.99.135.170.179 (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

By mistake. Sorry.

Chillum

Hi, Chillum. There's something odd, technically speaking, about the Black and Tans article. Possibly that's why I got it wrong the first time (see above). I saw — briefly — an edit by you in edit mode, and when I looked at your own page, the edit wasn't there any more. Please reply on your own page,because this is a bit spooky. If I manage to guess whether or not you reply, I'll e-mail you.

I hope this note reaches you. Was I seeing things? Bishonen | talk 23:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC). ?

So you speak Suomi?

If you do, are you active in the Finnish Wikipedia? If you are, can you please create a Finnish article of KidZania Jakarta, Kidzania Tokyo, and Kidzania Koshien? Because its just a matter of time that I'm getting bored with the pages without their international versions, as these places are internationally known.--Berlin Approach | Lufthansa 533 at FLT230 15:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Can't help you, sorry. No Suomi. My native tongue is Ruotsi. Bishonen | talk 16:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC).

How many languages do you speak, Bish? (not counting Dino) Just curious. Tex (talk) 16:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I don't "speak", or indeed write, many at all. Mainly Dino, lol! There are lots of better linguists than me around the project. For instance, that nutter User:Mike Halterman taught himself very creditable Danish and Norwegian in order to be able to discuss the Eurovision Song Festival with the natives. He just sort of picked them up... now that is amazing. Bishonen | talk 22:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC).

Bwah. Don't you dare embarrass dear Bish! You wouldn't ask a lady's age, n'est-ce pas. Why then do you ask a scholar's literacy? (But by the way, this would make a nice betting game. My bid's "five (not counting native routsi and dino") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tnuoccayawaworht (talk • contribs) 21:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Always count Dino! The great Bishzilla seriously multilingual, speak Ur-Dino, English, Stupid, etcetera. [Modestly: ] But can only count up to three, regret! bishzilla _ROARR!! 22:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC).

I would guess seven myself, not including Sdrawkcab. But then I don't know Bish as well as do others! Would that Wikipedia still had more like her; I've been having a bit of an ubi sunt melancholic funk about the entire project recently. Antandrus (talk) 21:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

[ Bishzilla sympathetically stuffs the little Antandrus in pocket of spiderman suit and heads towards Reichstag. ] Come, Little Stupid! Climbing time! bishzilla _ROARR!! 22:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC).

Well, thanks for explaining anyways. I always thought that you spoke Suomi. BTW, what is Ruotsi?--Berlin Approach | Lufthansa 533 at FLT230 03:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

It's the language of Ruotsalainen like me. Er, it's the Finnish for Swedish. How strange that sounds. Hmm. It's Swedish in Finnish. Darn it, that's no better. Anyway, why did you think I was Finnish? I'm just finished, that's all. Not even Japanese. Bishonen | talk 03:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC).

Novgorod was settled by people called the fi:Ruotsi more than 1,000 years ago. Eventually it was overtaken by Slavs. The name Ruotsi there eventually morphed into Russia. Ruotsi also happens to be what the Finns call the Swedish language. It all makes sense if you have enough vodka and smoked fish. Jehochman ^Talk 03:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Smoked is for wussies, Jehochman. Nothing flatters the vodka like fermented fish! Have some Surströmming! Bishonen | talk 03:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC).

Jehochman, the etymology seems to be a bit more complicated. See Rus' (people) and Rospiggar. Tnuoccayawaworht (talk) 06:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) "Anyway, why did you think I was Finnish?" My guess is the -onen ending. As in Kimi Räikkönen and Mikko Hirvonen. Maybe Bishonen likes fast cars. --Folantin (talk) 10:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

A typical bishōnen

It's Bishōnen not Bishönen. Pretty boy. Jehochman ^Talk 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

But it's Hirvonen not Hirvönen. (And most non-Suomi spell it "Raikkonen" in any case). The "nen" ending is the Finnish thing.--Folantin (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Little 'shonen stares in fascination at the pretty picture and starts to delicately hum Momus' Bishounen.

...a master in a white kimono taught him

in a shining moment

the myth of the bishounen

the youthful hero doomed to fall like blossom

Cacaphony breaks out as Bishapod adds his squeaky treble in the Fishapod song[11], and Bishzilla lifts her powerful Dino Contralto in something vaguely scary. Bishonen, [incensed ]: "Shut up, socks!!!" Go throw a party at Tex' place or something! Far from here!" [Calms down.] I guess nobody clicked on "Japanese" above, hint hint? Bishonen | talk 14:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC).

Oh I knew about the Japanese word. I was just speculating as to why somebody might mistake you for a Finn. A sauna-loving radioactive dinosaur with a passion for Sibelius, mobile phones and plenty of alcohol. --Folantin (talk) 14:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I just find the whole multilingual thing amazing because I know how hard it is to learn a new language. You have to really work at it if you don't start when you are really young. Anyway, sorry for the digression on your page, Dear Bishonen. Tex (talk) 14:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Some smoked fish with aquavit (iced) as a beverage, then a course of tasty reindeer meatballs with steamed, buttered cabbage (also with aquavit), and then for desert perhaps some runny cheese and a pear (and aquavit.) I ate at a Finlandic restaurant in Thunder Bay once, and everything on the menu had some kind of animal product involved. I don't think it's a necessarily "vegan friendly" cuisine over there... Carnivourously, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 02:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Obviously a tree. The branches top left are the edible part.

Ahh, the Water of Life..! But, hamster, what a lot of people (and tetrapods such as yourself) don't realize is that the reindeer is actually a plant. Bishonen | talk 11:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC).

Good point. I always thought that the fruits were the edible part, though, not the branches. As to buttered cabbage, I wonder why people in Finland don't use olive oil like all the other Mediterraneans. Hans Adler 13:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

And why do they serve pears instead of oranges? (See above photo of Bishonen and oranges.) Jehochman ^Talk 13:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Copy edit

Despite losing its "imposing grandeur" after being attacked by some form of reptile, I think I have adone all I that can be bothered to do here - could you do a copy edit for me, I can never see the mistakes and typos and see if it makes sense. Thanks. Giano (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I expect she mistook it for Tokyo. Sure, I'll take a look, in a while — I may need to go taunt ArbCom first, I can feel it coming on. Also things are a little hectic IRL. Bishonen | talk 22:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC).

Oh don't taunt the Arbcom, poor things. For myself, having been threatened and warned off like the others with common sense, I am just biding my time untill I can say - this is your fault, I told you this would happen; and of course, it will - just a matter of this week or next. I wonder if they will have to fill the form in too? - interesting notion. Then of course there is that mailing list business - the solution is pretty obvious there too, but they seem reluctant to see it. What are you planning to taunt them about? Giano (talk) 23:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, the usual, same as you--plus the way they waved off this little lot, which has now predictably spawned this, and on and on--the committee talk a lot about how hard they work, and I'm sure they do, but so do other people. Does the committee notice how appallingly it wastes perfectly good editors' time when they—the committee—refuse to deal with disruptive users? Editors that could be writing articles! Instead they're pushed into baking cupcakes! [Bishonen breathes out a shower of crumbs as she speaks.] Arghhh, never mind, the hell with it. Taunting is useless too. I go grade exam papers. :-( Bishonen | talk 23:53, 4 November 2009 (UTC).

• Mmmm exam papers, that reminds me, before the Arbcom elections (oh great joy) I am thinking of becoming a tonsured professor or a doctor, that always impresses the voters. What does tonsured mean, does it just mean old and grey with a bald head? because I don't fancy that - so I think I'll be a doctor, like the ones in the TV programs, young and virile saving lives in a dashing white coat with an entourage of swooning nurses - do you and Puppy have nurse's outfits, by any chance? I must set the scene early so it does not look like a vote catching ploy, I had better go and visit the sick. Praps I ought to do a page on a hospital first. Giano (talk) 07:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

No, it doesn't mean old and grey, the tonsured are frequently in their prime like yourself. It's a type of haircut merely. Religious haircut. Are you kidding or am I, of all people, explaining to a Catholic what a tonsure is ? Better look it up for yourself. But I'm delighted with your plans for gracing ArbCom. Nurse's outfits..? Hmm, there's a thought, I suppose. Or can we wear our maids' uniforms? That's a major Japanese fetish. It'll definitely get you the anime vote! Bishonen | talk 12:32, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

I am perfectly aware of what a tonsure is, I am just unclear why a professsor is tonsured unless its because they are old and bald. I'm not sure those particular maids are quite what my esteemed aunt would have in mind when she is next interviewing for a parlour maid. Speaking of whom, I'm about to do the house of a real life Lady Catherine (well fairly recently dead), who when the equally esteemed Nikolaus Pevsner came to lunch in order to write about her house, described him as "an irrittating little man, who delighted in conradicting his betters" which suggests that Pevsener would have made a typical admin here. She also had an entire American military base moved 1/2km "to the right" because it spoilt the view from her drawing room - which suggests were she to run for Arbcom - I would vote for her. Giano (talk) 13:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you'd prefer to be a tenured professor instead? Jehochman ^Talk 13:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Aha, perhaps I did mean that, this is the trouble with being dyxlexic and not a natural foreign speaker, although I'm sure I have read about a tonsured professor somewhere, didn't that Arb who left claim to be one? Giano (talk) 14:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

(That's clever, J-man. Never occurred to me.) Uh... what was the first owner's name again, please, Giacomo? Edward Lovedon Lovedon Lovedon Lovedon, Edward Lovedon Townsend, or Edward Lovedon Bishzilla? Bishonen | talk 15:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

• He was as I have clearly stated a Lovedon-Lovedon as was his grandson a few lines on Sir Pryse Pryse, which must have been a huge "surprise" - geditt? hohohohohohohohohahahahaohohohoho, Oh I should be on TV, it's the way I tell them. Giano (talk) 17:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

So... do you write all your own material? Anyway, Lovedon-Lovedon? There's no hyphen between those in the article. Is the hyphen wanted? Bishonen | talk 19:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

• Nope, it's all full referenced. Loveden Loveden had no hyphen. The book says Buscot then pasesed to Loveden Loveden's son, Pryse Pryse (it does not say if he was Pryse Pryse Loveden Loveden or just changed his name for ease) then to his grandson Pryse Loveden, and then (just in case you are starting to get it and relax) to his great grandson Sir Pryse Pryse, hence the surprise. Perhaps, you can see why I was a little ambiguous in that section and quickly passed on. I hope Wetman is watching this, as he understands these things. Lady C does too, but she's on her 4th martini by this time of night and not a good time to disturb her. Giano (talk) 20:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Fully referenced? Oh, I'm sure it is; I meant your stand-up material. Do you do children's parties? And, I'm sorry, I'm not relaxing yet — I still don't get if it's Loved-E-n or Loved-O-n. I wish the fellow had a Wikipedia article. Bishonenonen 21:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

It's Loveden Loveden with an "e" I wonder if I should disturb Aunt Catherine, I'm sure she would have an opinion on the subject. Giacomo Giacomo (talk) 21:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'm all set, and for god's sake don't wake Lady C. One monster invading the house is surely enough. [Little 'shonen starts looking for a good place to discreetly mention the bathroom fittings.] Bishonen | talk 21:31, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

Ah, Bishonen's talkpage is like The Sopranos: unless you tune in from the start and follow every episode, you're lost!--Wetman (talk) 21:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

But Giano's is worse, because he keeps archiving the whole time. The dinosaur invasion at Buscot Park actually began there.[12] Bishonen | talk 22:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC).

Shadow

You should try following me around for a day :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps requiring some extra arms? Bishonen | talk 00:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

Alces

Moose warning signs are used on roads in regions where there is a danger of collision with the animal. The triangular warning signs common in Sweden, Norway and Finland have become coveted souvenirs among the many German tourists traveling in these countries, and authorities have had to issue warnings that it is dangerous and criminal to remove these signs.

A moose warning sign in Finland and Sweden.

Does this sound like something made up, or could it be legitimate. The English speaking web does not have this info, except where copied from Wikipedia's article on Moose. Maybe the info could be verified by referencing a non-English source, perhaps something close to the phenomena of moose-sign-stealing-by-Germans. Jehochman ^Talk 04:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

That is totally legitimate. I've also heard that souvenir shops have started selling moose signs to the tourists, in order to get them to leave the signs actually on the roads alone, but that may be an urban legend. I'll see if I can find a source. Bishonen | talk 05:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

Absolutely legitimate according to what I found in German internet forums. German tourists talking about the huge number of missing signs in Norway, the speculations in the (Norwegian?) press that mostly Germans are to blame, strategies against this (apparently they are now welding, not screwing, them), and some have seen signs in people's gardens in German villages. I am looking for a German newspaper report on this, but it should be easier to find in a Nordic language. Hans Adler 07:30, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

As a German with close connections to Sweden, I can confirm from personal experience that most or all of the above is correct. I have seen quite a few stolen road signs in German homes. Also that factlet about replacing screws seems correct, though I might have got that by hearsay. By the way, they are called Elch (=elk) in German, moose being the North American variant if I am not mistaken. And they are hugely popular in Germany, not only as road signs, but also as plushies, coffee mug decorations, flags and what not. Any tourist shop in Sweden or on the Sweden ferries is full of them. The craze seems to have started with the appearance of Ikea in Germany, must have been in the late 1970s, when their commercials were quite elk-heavy. Kosebamse (talk) 08:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Still-life from a German bed. Not a joke.

Still-life of proto-tetrapod plushies. Better!

[Pod bursts into his usual irrelevance. ] Hi Kosebamse! Proto-tetrapod plushies cuter than big horned mammals! bishapod splash! 15:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

[Outdenting. ] So, in Germany, elk warning signs kind of correspond to garden gnomes? :-) Ha. Well, I easily found a couple of highly respectable Swedish sources for the theft of elk signs by tourists: Dagens Nyheter (including an interview with the official spokesperson of the relevant roads authority, yet) and Sveriges Radio, which has an interview about thefts in Norway. [Sic. A little odd? Yep.] But neither of those mention tourists of any particular nationality. That would come with being so respectable, of course. And, thinking about it, I guess it's not really proper for Wikipedia, either, to stigmatize the Germans, especially not based on rumour.

Hans, frankly, I'm not crazy about the reference you've added. I mean, that .pdf is a travel brochure, isn't it? Not really an authority IMO. I would rather remove the "German" thing from the article, speak of "tourists" only, and put a note about it on the talkpage. Unless you can find a rather starchier reference? (After all, nobody doubts the Germans are the major culprits... cough.) OK? Bishonen | talk 15:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

Of course. My closest contact to Scandinavia so far was buying a 2nd hand camping car with heating and an elk sticker at the back for Greece holidays, being a fan of the Olsen Gang, and understanding one or two words when switching my recently acquired Riget DVDs to the original language. And of course shopping in IKEA branches anywhere from Barcelona to Leeds. So whenever I am silly enough to make any edits related to Scandinavia it's probably best to revert them without even so much as looking at them.

By the way, at least it seems safe to say that basically no Germans were involved in the theft of Austrian Fucking traffic signs. Do we have an article on elements of public space that are considered funny by other cultures and therefore likely to disappear? Occasionally something like this comes up in the media. Hans Adler 16:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hehehe. "Best to revert them..?" Are you sure you didn't mean to say "You should honestly be blocked for saying things like that about my .pdf, because that can be nothing but trolling"? What a wuss! Bishonen | talk 20:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

*With cracking voice* Careful with the personal attacks, bitsh! We all know that the cabal of trigger-happy Scandinavian admins that has been pursuing me for the last 12 years is only waiting for me to drop the T word against you to block me indefinitely for racism. I am not stupid. I thought you would get my subtle hint, but you are probably going to claim you didn't get the clue. Tell you what: That's not going to fly. This is the English encyclopedia; if you can't communicate in English you have no business being here.

You announced [13] your intent to vandalise the moose article by disruptively removing vital, sourced information and just plain disagreeing with me, and in spite of my best efforts to communicate with you you did it anyway [14]. That's going to earn you a long, nasty, deserved block for intentionally trying to destroy Wikipedia. Don't say I didn't warn you!

You claim about yourself: "I'm not crazy". Well, I know the fifth digit of your employer's phone number. Let's see whether he agrees with your self-assessment when I call him and tell him about your comportment here.

*Timidly* Was that better? Hans Adler 20:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

No! Bishonen | talk 22:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC).

God, I love reading this page. Myself and two friends sitting with me just had some fucking good laughs! And for the record, the majestic moose is one of the most delicious of all tetrapods! Those signs should have a knife and fork crossed under the figure of the animal! Ravenously, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 20:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The way to speak Ruotsi

Is it, in any way, similar to that of Suomi? Thank you for taking your time, Mrs. Bishonen.----_{Boeing7107isdelicious|Sprich mit meine Piloten} 06:59, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Älä vittuile, Mr Boeing. Kosebamse (talk) 09:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I was just being twee, sorry. Ruotsi = Swedish. (Which is nothing like Suomi = Finnish.) What are you talking about, Bamse? Don't tell me you know Finnish, too! Bishonen | talk 11:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC).

(Gleefully:) Fooled you there, did I? Hah! Kosebamse (talk) 12:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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Perhaps some calming words from an admin?

In the last few days a little edit war has emerged on one of the "speculative" articles on my watch list. I don't edit there often -- usually just vandal watch. Please see: Talk:Aquatic ape hypothesis#Should Jim Moore be cited here? I don't think the conversations on the talk page will really succeed in settling the disagreement over a particular web site as source. Bishonen -- or another admin watching this page -- would you be willing to intervene a little? Thanks. WBardwin (talk) 09:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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For the Arbitration Committee,
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Priceless

[15]. Someone might need a sense of perspective, I think (and I agree with your edit). Guy (Help!) 20:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

^_^ Having ruined the entire wiki was a heady sensation! [Condescendingly: ] Have you ever ruined the entire wiki, Guy? [/me considers.] Oh... yeah, I guess you have. Bishonen | talk 21:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC).

It's a small and elite club, Those Who Destroy Wikipedia by Writing it. (Or maybe your pet dinosaur confused it with Tokyo one day?) Antandrus (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Poor old Zilla, if she has one more cupcake she'll probably explode. That would definitely destroy Wikipedia. OMG it's the Apocalypse! Bishonen | talk 22:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC).

Thanks

I don't mind any edit that makes me look less dumb. :-) Abecedare (talk) 23:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Hehe. ^_^ Bishonen | talk 23:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC).

Colley Cibber FAR

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Apology

I wish to apologize to you regarding the "joke" sockpuppet incident that I created. Although there is still something inside me that disapproves of your sockpuppets, I realize that in general they have community support and, for the most part, do no harm. What I did was wrong. I have no wish to cause you unhappiness and apologize sincerely for my behavior. I realize that you work for the good of Wikipedia. (In case, we seem to come from completely different spheres, my grandmother was born in Norway and my grandfather in Sweden.) Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 23:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

That's nice. Have some lutefisk. Bishonen | talk 00:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC).

Thank you. I wonder if that is like codfish? The drying and salting of codfish is not described as is lutefisk, but I wonder if it is similar. Thank you for being so gracious, as you certainly were not required to be. I am very appreciative. I really did not set out to be obnoxious and that is certainly not my goal now. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 00:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

S. A. Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897

nice job 68.0.88.195 (talk) 13:46, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Decora (talk) 13:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

(^_^) Bishonen | talk 13:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC).

It reminds me of my ArbCom candidacies. Jehochman ^Talk 14:01, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Ouch. "The 1896 fiasco." (>_<) "The 1897 disaster." (!_!) Bishonen | talk 19:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC).

Requesting unprotection of Santa Claus

Hi, I'm wondering if you'd be willing to lift the protection on the Santa Claus article. Since it's been so long, I figured a direct post of my rationale to RPP might be sufficient, but my offer to go back and double-check with you was accepted. So, would you be willing to try unprotection--knowing that I have the article on my watchlist and would gladly let you or RPP know if the vandals get out-of-hand again? Thanks, Cosmic Latte (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear, that's a long time, sorry. Unprotected. I left the move protection active, though—thinking it's just too tempting, with the approach of the festive season, to move Santa to Satan and what have you.. Is that all right? It's great if you do keep an eye on the article. Regards, Bishonen | talk 17:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC).

Great, thanks! Yeah, the move protection seems completely reasonable--the potential for abuse in that area seems quite a bit greater than the chance of the article being legitimately renamed as anything else. And I'll certainly keep an eye on it. Thanks again, Cosmic Latte (talk) 17:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Satan? No, he's not my sock puppet. We're more like meetpuppets actually. We cooperate now and then.--Santa (talk) 17:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

[Wheedling: ] Got anything for your friend Little Stupid this year, Santa? [Stupid little Bishapod dreams as usual of finding a Tiktaalik tricycle in his stocking. ] bishapod pedal pedal pedal ! 18:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC).

Ah yes: unprotected just in time for the Christmas idiots. That will keep grown-ups busy through the holidays.--Wetman (talk) 19:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

[Little Stupid is interested. ] Are grown-ups on site? Where? Little Stupid splash! 19:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC).

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Thanks, Jehochman ^Talk 16:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Am I..? It's getting monotonous, but very well. Sending me arbitration guides, is it, young man? You know what to send, don't you? Bishonen | talk 16:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC).

I am very sorry. The template made me do it. [Quivers. Runs off to start baking.] Jehochman ^Talk 16:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Mmmmmph! Mmmphishly, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 23:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[Bishapod stalks Hamster Sandwich to steal the cupcakes hidden in his cheek pouches. Sternly: ] Not save for winter, Hamsterman! Give! bishapod splash! 00:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC).

Poddie, don't! Not your cupcakes! Hamster's! Want cupcakes and plushies? Tell your masters to send you to my place, I'll treat you [Ouch! No, don't you dare bite me!] Swedophile (talk) 16:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Nibble, nibble! Biting the Swedophile n00bies! Give cupcakes! bishapod bite bite! 17:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC).