Hi, could you do me a favor? I've got a lot going on IRL in the next couple days. Could you and SMasters work out a final newsletter to send to everyone? He's pretty good with graphic layout, and you're the communications deputy for the drive, so you two should make a great team on this. You're going to want to provide some statistics, like total number of words copyedited, total articles edited, etc. If you don't have time to do any of this, that's okay. I'll just do it when I get back. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!01:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can do it. I will post it to SMaster's Talk when it's ready and hopefully they will have time to help with the technical bits. Thanks for your work on the drive!!! DiannaaTALK01:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, and thanks for the perfectly balanced barnstar as well. I didn't think I'd be able to find the right combination of articles to hit those even totals, but it worked out pretty nicely. :) Torchiesttalk/contribs12:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up
Thanks very much to all who helped with the Guild of Copy EditorsBacklog Elimination Drive. We were very close to meeting our target of 7,500 articles remaining in the backlog. Our most shining success is the incredible reduction in the backlog of Special Requests. That part of the project saw a drop from 62 articles in the queue, some dating back to February of 2009, down to a stunning THREE, all of which were being edited at the close of the drive. The Special Requests page will now be a great resource for people looking to tidy up their article in advance of a GA or FA nomination, instead of a place where articles go to die.
Moving forward
The drive has not only forced a great leap forward in reducing the backlog. It has helped promote the Guild, and led to a greater awareness of the level of vigilance required to keep the backlog manageable. Ideas such as charts, graphs, and barnstars helped motivate editors, and meeting other users helped quell any feelings gnomish editors may have had in the past that they were toiling all alone. Keep up the good work people!!
Stats
Almost everyone who participated will receive a barnstar. We will be handing these out over the next week or so.
Five people will receive the highest award for word count (80,000 or more), the Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star: Bullock, Diannaa, NielsenGW, S Masters, and Torchiest.
The Order of the Superior Scribe (40,000+) goes to Auntieruth55, Bobnorwal, Kojozone, Lfstevens, and Mlpearc.
fds wins the Modern Guild of Copy Editors Barnstar (30,000+).
The Old School League of Copyeditors Barnstar for 20,000+ is awarded to A. Parrot, mono, Truthkeeper88, and The Utahraptor.
the Tireless Conributor Barnstar (12,000+) goes to dtgriffith, Laurinavicius, and Quinxorin.
Buggie111, Brickie, cymru lass, liquidluck, noraft, and Yellow Monkey get the Cleanup Barnstar for 8,000+ words.
The Working Man's Barnstar for 4,000+ words goes to Annalise and fetchcomms.
The Modest Barnstar is awarded to Theo10011 and The Tito.
Gold Star Award
The Gold Star Award goes to the top editor in three challenges: Number of special requests fulfilled, number of articles edited, and number of words. Here are the final results.
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LI (May 2010)
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Diannaa, as I was cleaning out CAT:TEMP, I kept noticing your name. Accordingly, I have turned on the WP:ROLLBACK feature for your account. Please let me know if you don't want it, and please read that page to see when and when not to use the new button. Happy editing! Courcelles (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now that you're a rollbacker (welcome to the club), you should get a hold of Huggle. It makes vandalism fighting really fun, and super fast. You can rollback and warn 10 vandals in a minute when you're really cooking. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!07:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You know what you're doing. WP:Reviewer... with flagged revisions coming in 2 days, the permission needs to be given out, so you've got it. You won't see anything different for a few days, but I think your head's screwed on straight. You'll have a couple more buttons, but this right is as active as you want it to be-it also serves to let you "patrol" your own edits on flagged protected pages. Courcelles (talk) 13:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Help!
I started giving out the barnstars, then got bogged down with other things right after the Working Man's Barnstar. Can you give out the Cleanup and higher awards? I'll do the leaderboard awards. If it is too much for you, shanghai S Masters too. You can grab the language for the award off the page of one of the Working Man Barnstar Awardees. Pretty basic. Just notes the number of articles and total words, really. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!07:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Diannaa, for your hard work and dedication to the encyclopedia during the May 2010 Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive, copyediting the second most articles (212) and the second largest amount of text (136,200 words); for your service to the GOCE in co-coordinating the drive; and for being there for me when I needed your help; I hereby award you this special GOCE Gold Star Award, for an absolutely stellar performance. You have my warmest thanks. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!04:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, in case you're considering it, don't give me one back. I really didn't do enough to earn one. I gave the April 2010 Good Article Backlog Elimination Drive coordinators Motivation Awards, which seemed appropriate, and aren't often awarded. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!04:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the special award. Maybe I'll send you some cookies or something, one day when you need them. Your work is appreciated. DiannaaTALK04:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is a job for...the Communications Deputy!
Hi Diannaa, I've been thinking a lot about marketing the drive, and I think one thing that would help is if we monitored the signups closely, and sent a welcome message to each new sign-up, with an exhortation to ask friends to join the drive. My target for participation this drive is 60 active participants, about double the last one. I'm also about to send out a notice to all GOCE members announcing the drive. Do you have any other ideas? ɳorɑfʈ Talk!14:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I like the "welcome" idea and will look after sending out the welcome messages to peple who sign up. I think you should send out another sign-up reminder to all Guild members about a week from the start of the drive, say on June 24, if that does not strike you as being too spammy. What's your opinion? And hopefully our Signpost write-up will help as well. DiannaaTALK01:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, saw your message on my talk page. Hopefully you get this before you send the message out to those who have signed up. I've reworked your draft to sort of...get them into the spirit of the drive...make them want what we want. You'll see what I mean:
Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can to get it down to a manageable number. We've ambitiously set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog this month. In order to do that, we're going to need more participants. Is there anyone that you can invite or ask to participate with you? If so, we're offering an award to the person who brings in the most referrals. Just notify ɳorɑfʈ Talk! or DiannaaTALK of who your referrals are. Once again, thanks for your support!
Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. In May, about 30 editors helped remove the {{copyedit}} tag from 1175 articles. The backlog is still over 7500 articles, and extends back to the beginning of 2008! We really need your help to reduce it. Copyediting just a couple articles can qualify you for a barnstar. Serious copyeditors can win prestigious and exclusive rewards. See the event page for more information. And thanks for your consideration. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!14:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is the message that went out to 250 members of the GOCE. It resulted in 8 signups over the next 10 hours after it went up. I'm sure there will be some more over the next 36 hours, so that's good. The Signpost article will come out in a dew days, and that should help as well. Basically I need two signups a day every day until the drive starts to hit the participation goal of 60. If we want a reasonable chance at making the backlog goals (below 6000 and clearing all of 2008), we'll need at least 60 editors, with some high-performers again. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!23:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I got Jimbo!
I invited Jimmy Wales to sign up, and he did! I told him that if he symbolically copyedited a single article for the drive, that we give us a lot of good exposure, which would help participation. I also offered to find him a short article to work on. I have a little assignment for you. I'd like you to post on his user page, introducing yourself as the drive communications coordinator, welcoming him to the drive as a participant (in reality what you're doing is both welcoming him and advertising to everyone who watches his page that he's signed up), and saying something along the lines of "we know you're busy, so would you like us to find you a short article to edit, or would you like to proceed on your own?" ɳorɑfʈ Talk!10:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure it is appropriate or wise to assume he is only going to copy edit one article. Perhaps his intentions are wider than that! I would not like to presume otherwise. Nor do I feel we should choose an article for him; if he browses the backlog the way other users do he will get a better picture of the enormity of the task. That's just my opinion though. Here is the first draft:
Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can muster to get it down to a manageable number, so the exposure this project receives from your participation will be incredibly helpful. If you would like to take Noraft's suggestion and symbolically copyedit a single article, one of us would be happy to choose one for you if you want. Or if you have time to do more than one, that would be great too. As the drive communications coordinator, I thank you on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors for your support! DiannaaTALK 16:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I think you should go to his talk page and read my invitation to him. That will explain why I think he may only copyedit one article. Since I made an offer we need to see if he wants to take us up on it. I don't want him to feel snookered into joining, like we offered something just to get him in, then didn't follow through. He may want to do more than one article, and he may want to find articles himself, this is true, but he hasn't indicated one way or the other, so we need to find this out. ɳorɑfʈ Talk!00:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That looks great. I'd add in "Just let us know" to encourage a response one way or the other regarding the option we're presenting him. Go ahead and send it, and thanks! ɳorɑfʈ Talk!04:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The message has been delivered!!! This is gonna be huge. We already have 37 participants including high profile users such as Nerdy Science Dude and Fences & Windows. I have placed an announcement on the Military History wikiproject page as per your suggestion. It grows DiannaaTALK04:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Diannaa, nice to say hi, you've been to my talk posting things and I've never come by to say Hey. Have a small (Dumb) question, I recently opened my Public alternate account, my dumb question is can I edit in both accounts for the drive and log my complete articles under my main, or both, or none, or I can Only edit for the drive under the account I've signed up with (this one is my guess), but the only dumb question is "the one NOT asked" t
Thanks Mlpearcpull my chain'Tribs16:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mlpearc, nice to meet you! My feeling is that your public account was only set up to use at libraries, school, or what have you. I see no reason to restrict you to the home account only. When you have a minute, edit! You could check with Noraft to be sure. --DiannaaTALK16:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Diannaa, I've just re-edited Stuart period, from the original Stuart period (England). I've fixed the dabs, and put a {copyedit tag} on it. I would like to take this to (my 1st) - {WP:GA+} article. As this article covers over 100 years of history, (social, royal, political and military &c), I would be most pleased if you, or anyone you suggest, could help me with any suggestions, or improvements, &/or Copy-edits? Thank you kindly for your time, and concideration, regards Steve. Stephen2nd (talk) 15:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, and thanks very much for your contributions. I've left some edit suggestions on my User page. (I didn't want to edit these in, whilst you were working on it.) What do you think? Regards Steve. Stephen2nd (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Stephen. Unfortunately due to time constraints and other commitments (both here on Wikipedia and in real life) I will have time to copy edit the existing material but will not be able to stay on board long term to help you develop the article. Sorry about that. I will continue to work on the article today. --DiannaaTALK17:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have looked through the remainder of the article and from a copy editing point of view and it looks ok. For GA status, inline citations will need to be included for each fact presented; that is my main suggestion. Good luck! --DiannaaTALK17:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).
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"Honour"... I don't know. I've flagged a couple hundred editors today in preparation for this trial... don't let it go to your head ;) Courcelles (talk) 21:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Diannaa, I certifiably don't wish to be involved in an edit war, however the other user, simply ignored the discussion posted by me and another user and kept reverting changes with any discussion at all. What is the best course of action in that case? Also I see that you have reverted the changes that I have made, this article is about an ethnic minority in the US, Russians, Ukrainians are not the same ethnic group, there is already a separate page for Ukrainian-Americans, etc. Please take a look the discussion and re post my changes. Sotnik (talk) 04:32, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did read a lot of the talk page comments before I reverted your change. User:Hmains has over 187,000 edits to Wikipedia dating back to 2005 so I trust his judgement in this. Sorry. DiannaaTALK04:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please explain what you mean? If you have read the discussion page, you will see that there are multiple sources that back up what I said. He provided no sources at all, not to mention he ignored the discussion completely (both from me and another editor) and started reverting my changes. Certainly facts are not decided by who has more edits. Also I don't meant to repeat all the things that have been said on that discussion page, but you do agree that Russians and Ukrainians or insert_any_ethnic_group_here are different by definition and cannot be in the same category. That's the whole purpose of categories, to categorize. Sotnik (talk) 04:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not interested in getting involved in the content disute on the article. I just posted a warning to you as you were engaging in an edit war to restore your edit. According to the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle guidelines, when a change you have introduced is reverted, your next step should be to take it to the talk page. Not to revert back to your preferred version of the article. DiannaaTALK19:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, that is exactly what I did and my posts on the discussion page were ignored (along with the posts of another user). Why am I getting this warning and not the person who is unwilling to participate in the discussion, who started the reverts? You seem to hint that you know the other party involved personally and you are taking their side without any merit at all. In addition, I went back and looked at the comment you made when you reverted my change, It's not appropriate to exclude people because they're Jewish or Ukranian. That is just HIGHLY offensive and insulting! You're implying that I'm trying to "exclude" someone based on ethnicity/national orgin, etc, but this article is about an ethnic group. What you said, is exactly like saying, "its not appropriate to exclude Buddhists from a list of Muslims scholars", i.e. total nonsense! If you don't like that there are groups and lists based on ethnicity, you can appeal to have them removed, but don't apply a double standard to Russian-Americans. Sotnik (talk) 05:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So given that high edit count and the fact that most of his edits seem to be on this and related topics, I decided to trust his judgement and reverted the edit. --DiannaaTALK18:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Jack Merridew
Thank you very much for your help, and sorry I misspelled your user name twice.
1. I've read Lord of the Flies and know who Jack Merridew is. What this Jack Merridew has done, however, is link his user name to that page. Did you notice we have twoLord of the Flies pages? The real one, and the one he copied and linked to his user name. Here are the two:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies
Oh, now I see--I thought WP pages labeled "(Redirected from...) permanently carried the label.
2. I know how to find user pages and talk pages and revision history pages. I was asking how to find user account history pages. Nuujinn provided the User:Jack Merridew/History link; I'm asking how I would find that on my own. Would I have to type in "user:jack merridew/history" to Google search, or can it be found from his user page? I googled for one for you and for me, and found we don't have one.
I'm astonished at the hijinks WP allows.
Thanks again, --Yopienso (talk) 01:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK; sorry for assuming. The thing is called a "subpage" and many users have them. We do not all automatically have a subpage called "History." This history subpage of Jack's is a specially made page he created himself. To see if a user has any subpages, go to their contributions page, scroll all the way to the bottom, and click on "Subpages". I have several. Some people have their own personal sandbox, or articles in the process of development, drafts of items they are thinking about posting, etc. Jack Merridew is a returned formerly banned user who chose to keep this user name out of several he was editing under. As I said he seems a bit of a trickster; I am not prepared to comment on his activities or trustworthiness as I only know of him second hand from reading about him at WP:ANI. When I said I fixed the redirects, clicking on Jack Merridew used to direct to the top of the Lord of the Flies article. While that was amusing and confusing, it was not helpful, so I changed the redirects from Jack merridew and Jack Merridew to go directly to the section about the character at Lord of the Flies#Jack Merridew. If you have any more questions please let me know. DiannaaTALK01:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're a dear; thanks for the explanations. Next thing I'll want to know is how to create and subpage...and why I would want to. ;) But I'm not asking yet--don't want to stretch my brain too far in one day! --Yopienso (talk) 04:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
fyi, I added the #Jack Merridew anchor in teh LotF article; it was after I last edited the redirects. And you can get to the /History page by clicking the sock icons. I didn't specifically choose this account, I was directed to use this one because I scuttled my original account years ago by blanking the email in prefs and scrambling the password. Jack Merridew04:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
try repeatedly previewing my talk page; and note that my user page is dynamic— it will be different on different visits, over time. And please, no talkbacks; I hate teh things. Cheers, Jack Merridew05:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for the reply. I didn't put any refs in myself but should have spotted that punctuation after ref. As there were already external links I thought it would be best to keep to the established format as I didnt what to change the ones there already into. I will make sure I remove them in future.
Also I didn't realise that if the article is Sugar and I link to sugar it would work - past experience has shown me that I had to get the capitalisation the same as the article name or the link would fail. I must have missed something there along the way.
I thought headers that were names would follow the same as for page titles - As it was the Biositemap Information Model (the name of it) I thought it should have been caps.
Thanks for your time on that and for the kind words :¬)
Hi! I looked again and I think you are right about the header in this instance; the phrase is capitalised elsewhere in the article. For links, the first letter of the first word does not have to be capitalised for the link to work. example: electric guitar. However if intermediate words are capitalised in the article name they must be capitalised in the link or Apple-based computers will not find the link. Example: Oregon Trail. PC's will find the article as long as there is a redirect in place. Hope this makes sense! Thanks. --DiannaaTALK04:46, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't want to start an entire new section, but just wanted to say thanks for the welcome. I'm afraid I don't really know anybody else who would be interested, but maybe some talk page stalkers will see it and join of their own initiative. :) — e. ripley\talk15:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for copyediting Spies Reminiscent of Us, still needs just a slight expansion in the reception section on my part, but I hope to have it at GA sometime in the near future. I was wondering though if you could help me out again by taking a few looks at Road to the Multiverse. I've added it to the GOCE requests page, so if you can't I'm sure someone else can take a glance, but I really envy your work ethic, and hope you'll consider giving the article a somewhat thorough copyedit, as I've also listed the article for a peer review, in hopes of eventually getting to featured status, though that is a long way off. Thanks again. Gage (talk) 03:27, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re this issue. I am doing the best I can to communicate on the talk page of the associated article. Trust the relevant Wiki editors will do likewise. It's probably ok to clear the thread for now if you want.
Thank you for the update. I have marked the thread as resolved. By the way, you might like to file a request for comment on the article as this could attract knowledgeable editors in the field that could help edit the article. --DiannaaTALK13:49, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One more request in order to get this GAN through
I know that you've already copy-edited this article before but can you go over the Armament and crew section one more time on the German Type IXA submarine article? I only have to fix up the prose, fix any spelling mistakes in the article and seperate the paragraphs a bit more and then the GAN will finaly pass. Thank you so much :)--White ShadowsThere goes another day19:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I think that there could have been a "spare" torpedo or perhaps the number in the article was wrong. I've seen other sources say 23 and some say 23 so I'm not quite sure which one is correct.--White ShadowsThere goes another day20:53, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have rearranged the information and that is how I noticed it didn't add up. Otherwise the copy edits are done. Nothing much else to report. --DiannaaTALK20:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/July 2010
Hi, Diannaa, I'm having a problem with activating the link for page size. I have followed the instructions, but the page size option has not appeared when I have visited different articles. I'd really appreciate some help - thanks! David Rush (talk) 14:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have looked at your cologneblue.js and everything seems in place. Try clearing your browser cache (windows: control F5 or an arrow icon thingy up top). Let me or Noraft know if you are still having trouble. Hope this works! --DiannaaTALK15:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I tried what you said, but it still doesn't appear to be working. I should be able to see the words page size on the left of the screen when looking at any Wikipedia article, right? Thanks for your help so far! :) David Rush (talk) 16:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it should be at the bottom of the "Toolbox" menu (at least that's where it is on mine). I am using the Vector skin and it works on that one. I also had it working on Monobook. You could try rebooting your computer and if that doesn't work I am out of ideas; Maybe Noraft will have more things you can try. --DiannaaTALK16:08, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have absolutely no reason to doubt your good faith and committment to this encyclopedia in offering help and advice to some editors and contributors, and I sincerely hope that you will continue to do so. However, Alistair Stevenson to whom you offered help without perhaps having fully examined the situation, is firmly convinced that you clearly sympathised him. and that your advice gives him licence to continue to game the system. I have no interest whatsoever in getting involved or in escalating the situation by rasising official complaints about him, in firm belief that there are other ways of resolving situations without detracting otherss from their valuable editing time, but there might be people who are, and there is a very , very strong consensus that he might wish to review the way he communicates on talk pages..--Kudpung (talk) 01:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Kudpung. I did thoroughly examine the situation, looking at virtually all of the editor's edits to user talk pages and article talk pages before responding to his inquiry. As I am not an admin, you may wish to discuss Mr. Stevenson's behavior elsewhere, if there are still problems or ill feelings between you. Regards, --DiannaaTALK01:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]