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June 24

Finnish animated movie

I remember watching this Finnish film which, for the most part, had no dialogue and the main characters were a man and his alien cat who I think was named Doncy or Drancy (not sure though, and there was a villainous umlaut), and they lived on this planet in another galaxy. One day Voyager 2 (one of the Voyagers) crashed on their planet and they built a spaceship to fly them to Earth after they played the golden record. They found it was a barren hellscape and all that was left was a little shack where they met a black man who was one of the last remaining Earthlings who showed them a video that explained that war (possibly the War on Terror) had destroyed the planet. After hanging with the guy for a bit, they leave and he waves the off with a tear in his eye and just then the Earth is destroyed by Sol which becomes a blackhole (not actually possible of course as it is not massive enough). Has anyone else seen this film? If so, do you remember its name? I cannot remember it for the life of me. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 12:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Fewest points dropped in a set

So I gather that Tim Henmen only lost 4 points in the 3rd set against Ivanisavic in the 2001 Wimbledon Semifinal. Has anyone ever done better than that (in a major tournament that is, not just ever)? 91.85.140.182 (talk) 15:34, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

There has been one "Golden Set" in the history of men's professional tennis, with Bill Scanlon not allowing Marcos Hocevar a single point in a set in 1983. It was a first-round match, and not in a major tournament either, so it may not count as an answer to your question. A discussion on the issue on this forum [1] only comes up with Roger Federer giving up 5 points to Lleyton Hewitt in a set in the 2004 US Open final. There were two 6-0 sets in that match, and our article doesn't even say which of the sets this happened in, so it doesn't seem to have been an overly notable event. I'm sure there are are more cases of 4 or fewer points in a set, but am not sure where to find evidence of these. --Xuxl (talk) 20:33, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

When will you guys get tired of supplying me with film titles?

It isn't as if I don't do reasonable research to find the title myself - but here it is; yet another title request for the geniuses on the Entertainment section.

A young Russian boy who is taught by his father to shoot wolves, becomes a sniper in the Russian army in WWII. He is very successful and the Germans get one of their best snipers who runs their sniper school to come and stalk and kill him. The film is all about their stalking of each other until the Russian eventually corners the German who removes his helmet so the Russian can take a clean shot - which he does. End of film. I don't know who played the Russian but the German officer is a well known 'face' - but his name also escapes me.

Title please??? And thank you so much in advance. Gurumaister (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Enemy at the Gates, badass film. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 18:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, the sniper duel thing was a piece of Soviet propaganda. Prokhorovka (talk) 19:34, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes; our article Vasily Zaytsev says "The movie was mostly a work of fiction. Zaytsev himself indicates in his own memoirs that a three-day duel did indeed occur and that the sniper he killed was the head of a sniper school near Berlin. However, there is no evidence that any Major Erwin König ever existed, despite the claim made by the Armed Forces Museum of Moscow that they are in possession of his telescopic sight." Alansplodge (talk) 23:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps Major König was a distant cousin of Lieutenant Kijé? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

"Erwin Koenig" could have been the german sniper's nom de guerre. 67.169.177.176 (talk) 19:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Flinders - I appreciate that very much. Gurumaister (talk) 17:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

estate of george harrison

I am a musician and a lawyer who understands Intellectual Property law, so please do not answer my question by saying 'you need to see a lawyer'. My question is this: How would I find the people responsible for administering the estate of George Harrision (ex Beatle)?. I want to know this so I can contact them to ask them if I may record a song I wrote about him which, in part, quotes a song that he wrote - so I want to know if they will allow me to do that.75.118.136.173 (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

If it were me, I would start with whatever label (if any) is issuing his records nowadays. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

The final two paragraphs of Harrisongs will likely help. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:13, 22 Sivan 5771 / 24 June 2011 (UTC)

June 25

Unknown Song or Artist

I am looking for a song or artist of the song. The song was on the radio in 1981-82. The singer was a woman. The only thing I can remember now is a small piece of the lyrics. Here is what I have..."some days I get out of bed and I feel like a..." (S.O.B.) It was a rock song. I've tried to check songs released in 1981...1982 etc. and I've never found anything helpful. Hopefully, there's a retro genius out there willing to help. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.202.79 (talk) 01:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not finding anything with Google. Given the year, can we assume the lyric was literally "S.O.B" and not "son of a bitch"? I doubt a song that prominently said the word bitch would get much airplay, though it's certainly possible. Women don't typically refer to themselves as sons of bitches for, er, obvious reasons, so it may have been a cover (or perhaps a misremembered line...?). Your ISP locates to Washington state, USA. Did you hear the song in the US? Any particular area? Sometimes seemingly irrelevant details can help out. Matt Deres (talk) 20:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

1974's "The Bitch Is Back" by Elton John got lots of airplay, although it did attract some controversy. Although maybe the fact of being Elton John allowed him to get away with more. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

The song was heard in the USA. I think the vocals trailed off at the S.O.B. part. Pretty sure it said, "son of a...ohhhhhh". Was never a top 100 song. I checked all the charts from those years. I know there's a book(s) out with all songs released from each year. I've been checking to find the guys name who wrote the books...yes, apparently there a a few volumes. Knew his name several years ago and can't find it now. Obviously, this "group" was not a top level act. If anything pops up let me know. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.202.79 (talk) 05:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe "Hair of the Dog" by Nazareth? --Jayron32 21:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Definitely not Hair of the Dog. That is a good song, but not it. This person or group was not as well-known as Nazareth. I'm guessing this was probably a "one hit wonder" even though it didn't rank high on the charts, it was probably the best song from this person or group. If anyone knows where an archive can be found of songs released...that would be most helpful. I've seen some, but they don't include all songs released from 1980-1982. The above mentioned author (name not remembered) would be helpful if found somehow. I will continue to Google "songs released..."etc. Maybe his name will appear. Any help is much appreciated! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.202.79 (talk) 21:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

certain Cheikha Rimitti recording

Hello. I'm no native speaker but I'll try my best, so sorry for my English. I'm looking for the album containing a certain recording of Rai singer Cheikha Rimitti. You can listen to the recording here at dailymotion. The video is titled "El alya", I guess the actual title of the song is "El Alia n'batou ahna". I found a different version of this song on the album "La Rimitti Vol. 3" (you can prelisten to it here at amazon, it's the 2nd track), but I enjoy more the video version because of the drum set (and I hope there are more songs from this session). Does anybody know where to look? Thank you & greetings --StefanWesthoff (talk) 17:16, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Try Maghreb Soul-Rimitti Story 1986-1990 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.107.202.79 (talk) 05:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

thx :) --StefanWesthoff (talk) 19:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

No, that one is without the drum set. The recording on dailymotion contains cymbals and a snare. Another idea? --StefanWesthoff (talk) 00:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Movie: August Rush

All of the soundtracks for August Rush that I have found omit one piece of music. When the boy discovers the organ in the church loft, this magnificent organ music erupts. No soundtrack listing I have found, no samplings I have listened to have that organ piece. What is it, who was it written by, where can I get a recording of the whole thing ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.74.37 (talk) 22:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Someone has apparently put the entire thing on youtube, in 10 minute slices. This is part 1 of 11.[2] If you can find which part and the point in time, maybe we can identify it? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:25, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Here it is, or a section thereof. I don't know it as a recognisable piece of music; it might just be him extemporising. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 05:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Not really recognizable. Sounds kinds of Mozart-esque, which would fit the discussion in that scene. And maybe not long enough or distinctive enough to be on the soundtrack album. Also, I've never seen the movie. Is it as syrupy as the plot description in the article makes it sound? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much, yeah. Dismas|^(talk) 06:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

June 26

The Departed (2006 film)

I didn't understand some of the incidents in The Departed Film, so can someone please answer my Questions about The Departed Film?

1. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, Costello sent his henchmen to the same building.

2. When Costello sent his henchmen to the same building, did Costello tell his henchmen to kill Queenan?

3. When Costello sent his henchmen to the same building, did Costello tell his henchmen to kill the Undercover Cop?

4. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, was Sullivan hoping for Queenan to get killed?

5. When Sullivan told Costello that Queenan & the Undercover Cop are inside a building, was Sullivan hoping for the Undercover Cop to get killed?

6. When Sullivan killed Costello, did Sullivan decide to be a Good Cop? (76.199.98.167 (talk) 05:40, 26 June 2011 (UTC)).

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 February 3#The Departed (2006 film) -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 19:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

leave it to beaver show

how did theodore cleaver get his nickname beaver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.235.125.146 (talk) 19:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

When Wally was young, he had trouble pronouncing his brother's name. It sounded like beaver, and it stuck.[3] Clarityfiend (talk) 20:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I recall a clip from one show where Beaver suggested it was himself who couldn't pronounce it. Lady: "Beaver? I thought your name was Theodore." Beaver: "Oh, I don't use it much. I couldn't pronounce it until last year." Perhaps a script continuity glitch? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

June 27

Where can I stream the tvshow lgbt tv show Exes_and_ohs online?

Where can I stream the tvshow lgbt tv show Exes_and_ohs online? Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:33, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you look for it on youtube? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

IMDB has links to stream the 6 season one episodes and a promo, here: [4]. However, those links redirect me to Amazon, where only a preview of each is free, and you have to pay for the rest. StuRat (talk) 22:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Seek title to 1950s B&W half-hour U.S.-syndicated UK-based male detective series with signature foot-chase end scenes

Have already viewed ALL the databases, but none mention foot-chases as key element. Set in a metropolican area, but don't know if officially "London." Don't think guns were used in show. Don't remember any female evildoers/co-evildoers. Don't know if series was named for detective. Don't remember if lead was a cop or PI. Lead was no-longer young Caucasian with dark hair and strong nose, with more character than handsomeness. Was NOT a drawing room show. Was not a clue-solving show. More identify the bad guy, and then chase and catch him. Had gritty urban outdoorsey feel, and chases were out-of-doors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersnicholas (talk • contribs) 04:33, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about a foot chase, but maybe Fabian of the Yard? DuncanHill (talk) 03:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Or (but 60s) Gideon's Way, called Gideon CID in America. DuncanHill (talk) 03:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The Tree of Life

Sorry to ask such a specific plot point about such a philosophic movie, but the plot summary in the Wiki article doesn't indicate this: which of Jack's younger brothers is the one whose death is announced at the start? Is it R.L. (the blond one who plays the guitar)? Or is it not even indicated which one, just that one of them dies? Thanks all, Fbv65edel — t — c // 05:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

June 28

Is there an female singer old than Madonna or Cher who is still releasing albums?

Is there an female singer old than Madonna or Cher who is still releasing albums? Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

For those who might want to answer, I'll help out your research by telling you that Cher is apparently 65. Dismas|^(talk) 02:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

As far as an answer goes, Tina Turner released a live album 2 years ago and she's 71. I don't know if 2 years ago meets your "still releasing" criteria though. Dismas|^(talk) 02:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Marcia Hines is still going strong. She's older than Madonna, but younger than Cher. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 02:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Mavis Staples released an album in 2010, see You Are Not Alone (Mavis Staples album). She's 71, and older than both Cher and Madonna. Ann Wilson is 61 (making her between Madonna and Cher), and Heart's latest album Red Velvet Car was released in 2010. --Jayron32 02:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

There is Dolly Parton who is still performing anyway. Bielle (talk) 03:18, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

According to her Wikipedia article, Dolly Parton's newest album is being released today (she is 65). Rmhermen (talk) 14:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Wanda Jackson, 73, released an album this year. --Roisterer (talk) 03:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

In 2009 Yoko Ono released Between My Head and the Sky - "easily the best LP to be released by a 76-year-old this month"[5],Melburnian (talk) 05:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Calling what Yoko does "singing" stretches the limits of that word well beyond its intended meaning. --Jayron32 05:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

It's all relative. Do you remember "Mrs. Miller"? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Not only Mrs Miller, I also remember Mrs Mills. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.110.117 (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Vera Lynn released an album two years ago, when aged 92, although it was a best-of with no new material. Warofdreams talk 12:52, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

While Omara Portuondo released her latest album in 2008, age 77, and is still regularly performing. Warofdreams talk 13:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

... and an honourable mention for Judy Collins, who released a new album last year, aged 71. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Dame Shirley Bassey released an album in 2009 and is still performing aged 74. --TammyMoet (talk) 17:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh and Deborah Harry is aged 65, still rocking out, still touring and still gorgeous! --TammyMoet (talk) 17:57, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Marianne Faithful, age 64, just put out a new album. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 20:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Pat Benatar, 6 years older than Madonna, is still touring although her last album was in 2003. Cher's last complete album was in 2005 so perhaps still comparable. Rmhermen (talk) 21:41, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I wonder if this is related to the previous question Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2011_June_20#Who_is_the_oldest_author_still_writing.3F. – b_jonas 13:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

This is stretching the requirements of the question slightly, but the article on Jeanne Calment mentions that she released a CD in 1996, for her 121st birthday (nobody else has even lived that long). According to this article, somebody called Edith "Mama" Randolph was recording in 2007, aged 102. 81.98.38.48 (talk) 23:33, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Name order on DVD covers

Okay, this is an utterly inconsequential thing that has been bugging me for years. Why is it that on DVD covers, they tend to list the lead actors' names in one order, but then show their faces right below in a different order? Looking at some DVDs I have on hand, we have:

Goodfellas

• Listed: Robert De Niro - Ray Liotta - Joe Pesci
• Pictured: Ray Liotta - Robert De Niro - Joe Pesci

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl

• Listed: Johnny Depp - Geoffrey Rush - Orlando Bloom - Keira Knightley
• Pictured: Keira Knightley - Orlando Bloom - Johnny Depp - Geoffrey Rush

Gangs of New York

• Listed: Leonard DiCaprio - Daniel Day Lewis - Cameron Diaz
• Pictured: Daniel Day Lewis - Cameron Diaz - Leonardo DiCaprio

DVD covers, why you no use same order? --Lazar Taxon (talk) 07:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

They're taken from movie posters, and the names are probably in order of billing regardless of where they are on the poster. You're right, it's stupid or at least misleading. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The faces are organised for aesthetic reasons (composition, impact or sexual allure), while the names are organised based on a mix of contractual reasons (where people get a specified billing) and advertising (putting the most marketable name in a prominent position). Note that the most marketable name is not the same as the most marketable face. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I think you'll find that the faces are just as contractually fiddled as the name order, with the most important character in the centre of the image, and more important actors closer to them. See Billing (filmmaking) for more information about how names are presented. Worm^TT · (talk) 12:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Identifying a character

Can someone identify the character in this photo. A pseudonymous Tamil writer uses this as his profile image. I am reminded of akira kurosawa films, but cannot identify this.--Sodabottle (talk) 08:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Not sure exactly what movie the photo is from, but I think it's Kamatari Fujiwara. Staecker (talk) 10:37, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey thanks!. From google image search for "Kamatari Fujiwara" confirms its him--Sodabottle (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

what was this clip from?

I recently took a look at an old unmarked vcr tape, when I played it I saw a woman put into what looked like a medical scanner, which was followed by what looked like scans of various body parts, then the words "Invasion of the body scanners" covered the screen... what was this from? Dubious Status ^{How's it going?} 13:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Myriads of journalists (or, to be charitable, their sub-editors) have used "Invasion of the Body Scanners" as headlines for their articles about body scanners (at airports etc), but there's nothing more than about four or five years old that I can find immediately on that subject; it sounds as though your tape is older than that. Tevildo (talk) 21:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah-ha! There was an episode of Equinox in 1989 with this title ([6]), on the same subject-matter as more recent coverage. Is that your video, by any chance? Tevildo (talk) 21:30, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I think that's it... thanks! (I forgot to sign in) Dubious Status ^{How's it going?} 04:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

What's the name of this tv show?

There was a tv show on the 90s, i cant remember. Is there anyone out there who know the name of this show in question?. The plot was about a group of kids?/teenagers? who did reenactments in a funny way of classical literature, such as Iliad, Trojan war and other stuff. HappyApple (talk) 15:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Was this an American show? British? Was that the only thing they did? Were there other skits? Dismas|^(talk) 15:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I dont remember if it was an American or British tv show, but my guess it was Canadian or something, maybe US, and as far i can remember that was the only thing they did. Any clues?, any shows that have done that thing in the 90s? or early 2000?. The last thing I remember is to have seen this show on Fox Kids latin america way back in the late 90s. HappyApple (talk) 21:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

After looking around, the show it was something like Wishbone (TV series), however all the cast were teenager or kids. I hope this can help a little. Any one has clues? HappyApple (talk) 23:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I can't say that I've ever even heard of Wishbone. I'm assuming the program, being filled cast-wise by children and teens, was aimed at children and teens. Do you possibly know what network was involved with it, or even just if it was standard broadcast, basic cable, premium,...(blah, blah..) If forced to guess, it sounds like something from Nickelodeon maybe...but I don't recognize the generic situation. --Onorem♠Dil 00:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm quite sure it was not Nickelodeon, as mentioned above i remember seen it on Fox Kids, and i assume the production was Canadian, Nelvana, perhaps?. Not sure. But that what i can remember. HappyApple (talk) 00:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Lawrence of Arabia and Seven Pillars of Wisdom

My question is regarding any particular reasons why the movie Lawrence of Arabia was not named as Seven Pillars of Wisdom, the book on which the movie is based? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.241.65.138 (talk) 20:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Because the producers of the film felt that the title "Lawrence of Arabia" had better potential for marketing purposes to sell more tickets. Movies based on books frequently take different titles, for various reasons. Goodfellas the film was based on a book titled Wiseguys, Simon Birch the film was based on a book titled A Prayer for Owen Meany. Precious the film was based on a book titled Push. It happens quite frequently; the marketing of movies is often quite different than the marketing of books, and a title that would sell a book is often different from a title that would sell a movie. --Jayron32 20:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

We have our Category:Films based on literature, Category:Books adapted into films etc, but I'm sure we must have a list of films with titles that are different from the book/play on which they were based. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 21:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I read somewhere that Seven Pillars is a strange case, because Lawrence started out writing a book on philosophy. When he then decided to write a biography instead he kept the title that he had originally decided to use, I believe it is a biblical quote. So the title was not connected to the subject of the book, let alone a film of it. Britmax (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Evil Angels/A Cry in the Dark, unofficially known to many as A Dingo Stole my Baby, has caused a lot of consternation right here on Wikipedia. HiLo48 (talk) 00:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

June 29

Secret Invasion

Some years ago there was a comic book crossover in Marvel Comics, the Secret Invasion. There's a part of the plot I did not understand, which I though would be explained later, but I never saw an explanation.

The storyline begins (in the narrative meaning) when the New Avengers fought against The Hand, their leader Elektra is killed, and they find out she was actually a Skrull (those green shape-shifting aliens). The New Avengers, who were outlaws, were unsure what to do, and Spider-Woman proposed to take the corpse to Iron Man, head of SHIELD (and so, the man with the highest power and resources to organize a resistance); the plane crashes, she leaves the group and takes the corpse to Iron Man. Iron Man then becomes aware of the invasion, and begins to prepare everything. Some time later, it was revealed that Spider-Woman was a Skrull as well.

Granted, it was really unexpected. Nobody could have thought she was a skrull, being the one who informed Iron Man of everything. It seemed to made no sense, if the invasion was a stealth operation, which could have been the sense in spoiling the secret to the one who should be the last one in suspecting anything? Well, the issues kept going on, the story kept advancing... and the answer to that question stayed unexplained. Which was supposed to be, after all, the master plan? Why let Iron Man know of it, why not lure him to a trap and let him know of the Skrull invasion when it was too late, or not even by then?

I have considered as well that the plot may be that the death of Elektra was unexpected, and Spider-Woman improvised as best as she could, but a Migthy Avengers issue detailing the abduction of the real Elektra points that there was indeed an (unexplained) master plan, involving the fake Elektra's death and the New Avengers discovering it. Cambalachero (talk) 02:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The answer is that sometimes, people who write fiction are not able to reliably predict how every one of the hundreds of readers of their fiction will interpret it. They write what they think is a good story, however what makes a "good story" is clearly subjective and sometimes readers are left unsatisfied by what they perceive as glaring plot holes. You wouldn't be the first to note glaring plot holes in otherwise popular media. (I.E. how didn't Obi Wan Kenobi, in Episode 4, recognize the very same droids he spent episodes 1-3 hanging around with... Or how does Luke pack years of intense martial arts and religious training into a weekend... but I disgress). The point is, these works of fiction aren't subject to rules of logic and reality in general because they aren't reality. The authors work hard to make them work out and make sense, but sometimes they screw up, and there isn't a greater explanation than that. --Jayron32 02:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The original poster knows all that. Why answer, Jayron32, if you don't know the answer? Comet Tuttle (talk) 04:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

At least he tried to answer, as opposed to playing the "nanny". In future, try to confine your personal attacks to the talk page, where they can be properly disposed of. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Bugs, that was not even remotely a personal attack. Merely observing or asserting that someone's knowledge is deficient is a personal comment, but it's not any sort of attack. A personal attack might have been, for example, "You're an idiot for not knowing the answer". -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 12:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I did know the answer, or at least part of it. The answer is "it is fiction, and not reality, so it does not have the completeness that reality does". Works of fiction begin and end with the contents of the work (excepting in rare cases where the sheer OCD of the author causes them to create entire volumes of unpublished background and commentary, c.f. J.R.R. Tolkein). Most often, there is no possible explicit explanation for extratextual information about works of fiction. The background explanations for why characters behaved a certain way in a comic book are usually (excepting a sort of Tolkein-like situation of which I am unaware of existing for this particular work of fiction) complete speculations, since the information cannot be gleaned from the work itself. In other words, the OP is asking a question which, in all likely probability, is impossible to answer with factual references, since the answer simply does not exist. If it existed, it would exist within the very work of fiction the author is asking about, and presumably they could simply read the explanation themselves. --Jayron32 05:29, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm aware of the nature of fictional works, thank you. The thing is that this was a complex storyline, and unlike books or movies it did not took place in a single media but in several contemporary comic books set in a same fictional universe. So the chance could also be that I did not understand the plot, or that the explanation was given at some issue which I had not read. Did any of you actually read the crossover I'm talking about, or are you just giving the standard answer for questions about plots? Cambalachero (talk) 13:20, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the story, but my guess (outside of "even the writers didn't know the answer and were making stuff up as the went along" - especially likely with multiple authors) is that the answer might lie in your last sentence "there was indeed an (unexplained) master plan, involving the fake Elektra's death and the New Avengers discovering it". If the plan called for Skrull-Electra to die and be discovered, the plan probably called for Iron Man to find out about the Skrulls. Therefore, Skrull-Spider-Woman was ensuring things were going according to plan when she brought him the body. That still leaves why part of the master plan for a secret invasion called for being discovered. I don't have enough info to speculate. You may find the answer if you reexamine why it was said that the death and discovery of Skrull-Electra was part of the master plan (did they hint at what that was supposed to accomplish?). One option is that the master plan really wasn't for a "secret" invasion, but involved outing it to the New Avengers (to distract them, perhaps, or draw them into battle?). -- 174.31.220.158 (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

To put it shortly, the plan was to create mistrust and confusion among the super-heroes (or rather, exacerbate the tensions that had already started during the so-called "Civil War") so that they would be unable to form a cohesive battle plan when the time came for the Skrulls to begin the attack in earnest. In-story, the replacement Skrulls had been there for some time, waiting for an opportune time to act. That time came during the Civil War, with the Avengers split in two. Now, if the Skrulls had tried anything in the open, there would have been a danger of the Avengers banding back together to defeat the common enemy. What they needed was to drive the teams further apart so it was in fact quite clever to tip their hand in the way they did. Revealing the Skrull Elektra not only put the Skrull Spider-woman somewhat above suspicion (which was important), it also allowed the heroes to know that they had no way of detecting their opponents - literally anyone might be a Skrull. That was a vital piece in driving the heroes further apart. Matt Deres (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

"Sweet Soul Music"

When did Sam and Dave record their cover of Arthur Conley's 1967 hit "Sweet Soul Music", and where does it first appear? I wrote the Wikipedia article about that song, and I can't find the Sam and Dave cover version on any of their albums. The closest I could find was this listing on Allmusic, which raises more questions than it answers, as Sam and Dave had well and truly broken up by 1995. Graham87 05:24, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, artists frequently record many many more songs than are ever released. The songs exist in back cataloges somewhere, and when someone who has the rights to the song decides to cash in, they end up getting released. It gets particularly silly when you have a situation like Tupac Shakur who released 4 official albums when alive, and six official albums after he died! Your best source, if any exists at all, would be the liner notes to the single, which may have additional recording information. --Jayron32 05:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, makes sense ... I hadn't thought about the back-catalogue! Rather frustrating though. Graham87 05:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The fact that the single you linked to was released by K-Tel suggests to me that they may have recorded the song as part of their 1978 sessions for the K-Tel album Sweet & Funky Gold, recorded in Nashville according to our article. But I don't have any corroborative evidence for that. I certainly don't think they recorded it when they were at Stax or Atlantic - the track isn't mentioned in this discography, or this one. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, you appear to have almost nailed it! Turns out it's on the K-Tel album The Original Soul Man. Graham87 02:13, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

What Detroit skyscrapers appear in Eminem's Super Bowl commercial?

I asked this question before but it was archived and no one answered after I added new information.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Detroit has bluelinks for everything, and all of those articles have accompanying pictures. A few minutes worth of research and you should be able to work it out for yourself. --Jayron32 18:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I already tried that. I was hoping someone who knows detroit would see the video and the times I identified.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I checked the archived question again. I think the second one was the Penobscot Building. Looking at the link Jayron provided once again, I'm going to guess that the first one was Westin Book Cadillac Hotel but I'm not absolutely certain.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

SACD XRCD

What is the difference between SACD & XRCD? I know that SACD requires a special player but I understand XRCD does not. I also know some SACDs are multi-channel and XRCDs are not. Sound quality?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkrops (talk • contribs) 18:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Have you read SACD and XRCD? The latter article says that XRCD follows the Red Book (audio CD standard), so does not need a special player. The articles give some details about sound quality, but I don't know whether there is enough there to answer all of your questions? 81.98.38.48 (talk) 22:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

FIFA 2014 World Cup qualifications

Which website is a great website to update the scores of the qualifications for all rounds in each confederation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.17.14 (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/index.html has all the info you need; currently only Asia is playing any qualifying matches, but as more confederations start up their tournaments, the information there will grow. --Jayron32 19:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Pop stars and the Year of F-bomb titles

Why is it that this year, and maybe the past couple of years, have seen an unnerving proliferation of number-one songs with (originally) profane titles? I know at least Pink and Cee-Lo Green have done that, and I think I saw others. I won't even bother ranting on the quality of "hit music" of today, but what's with the profanity? 75.73.225.224 (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not exactly a new thing. See the history of The "Fish" Cheer/I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag, a fairly popular song from the distant past... --Jayron32 02:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Identification of a song from the television series Parks and Recreation

I am trying to identify a song from Season 3, Episode 13 - The Fight from the TV series Parks and Recreation. Here is a short sample. http://gtabfans.com/~andrew/nameme.mp3 Computerwiz 222 (talk) 23:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

June 30

backyard monsters town hall?

sorry to ask such a specific question, but is there a maximum town hall level in the game "backyard monsters"? thanks! Dubious Status ^{How's it going?} 04:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

This would suggest that Level 8 is the highest. Dismas|^(talk) 11:27, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Movies about Japanese warfare / martial arts

Call me a massive geek but I've been playing a bit of Total War: Shogun 2 recently and it's inspired me to watch some movies about Japanese warfare / martial arts. Unfortunately I'm not really a film buff so have no idea where to start. Any recommendations to get me started? Thanks. --Coolcato (talk) 12:08, 30 June 2011 (UTC)