Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Switzerland

See also: Wikipedia Diskussion:WikiProjekt Schweiz (Deutsch)

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See also: Discussioni_progetto:Svizzera (Italiano)

New article Ustertag

I translated Ustertag using gTranslate, and I think I got it pretty clear, though the last paragraph didn't translate cleanly so I shielded it. Anyone want to help add a little larger context for we who don't know a lot about Swiss history? MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I made a quick translation of the section and will add some more detail from the Volkstage in German, French and Italian in the online Historical Dictionary of Switzerland. soon. Tobyc75 (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Does the name mean anything literally? That'd be good to add. And any help better-categorising it would be great too. Thanks for helping out, gTranslate only goes so far, and I can only really translate well from Latin-based languages (mining lots of ca.wiki these days). MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I believe that the name comes from the city of Uster and the name for the legislative and executive body of the Swiss Confederation the Tagsatzung. Uster+tag . Does anyone else here know for sure?Tobyc75 (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Zurich photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Swiss International Air Lines/Swiss European Air Lines building and the Gate Gourmet building in Zurich Airport, Kloten? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Geneva photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Privatair building and the Skyguide building in Geneva Airport, Meyrin? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Did Privatair today. There was no practical parking spot near Skyguide and since it's freezing, I didn't feel like walking 1km to snap a lousy pic. MLauba ^(Talk) 12:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

PrivatAir HQ in Geneva, 15 December 2010

Thank you for taking the Privatair pic, MLauba! WhisperToMe (talk) 17:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Population templates

I've created some templates based on what's being done on the German Wikipedia. These templates read population from a central metadata page and fill out the populations in the articles. Using these templates, all the muncipal, district and canton articles could have their populations updated easily. However, I'm running into some problems with the {{as of}} and {{Infobox Swiss town}} templates. So I've got a couple of questions. First, though right now I've only uploaded Canton Bern data, but could you test the templates and let me know if you have any problems. Second, does anyone have any issues with adding the templates to the municipality articles. Finally, does anyone have any ideas on how to repair the conflicts with the other templates or add my templates to the infobox?

The templates are

• Template:Swiss populations provides the actual population number
• Template:Swiss populations ref provides the reference for the population
• Template:Swiss populations date provides the date that the population was recorded
• Template:Swiss populations YM returns only the year and month
• Template:Swiss populations Y returns only the year

Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 15:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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Free Democratic Party naming convention

The Free Democratic Party and Liberal Party merged (federally) to form FDP.The Liberals last year. The 'fix' adopted by Wikipedia then was simply to change the introduction of the Free Democratic Party of Switzerland to reflect the fact that they'd merged.

That is despite it being a completely new party, despite it having a completely new name, and despite the old parties retaining separate (and competing) organisations in Geneva, Vaud, and Valais.

French, Dutch, Spanish Wikipedias all have separate articles for FDP.The Liberals as from the predecessor FDP. I believe that should be the case on English Wikipedia, too. Opinions? Bastin 00:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Schwyz (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

External links stuff at UBS

Hi! I noticed the external links section of UBS is in small print. This appears to be an accident. Would someone mind fixing the font so that the text isn't small anymore? It seems like an error involving one of the references... WhisperToMe (talk) 21:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Swiss Towns

I've been working with another user to make some modifications to the Infobox Swiss Towns template. The modifications that we're putting together will automatically add updated population figures and maps using the SFOS code (or municipality code), the institutional websites of the communes will be also automatically added if not already present. For former municipalities, the template will now add a category according to the canton instead of the generic category 'former municipalities of Switzerland'. I think these modifications will make it easier to keep information up to date in the 2600+ municipality articles. Let us know what you think either here or at Template talk:Infobox Swiss town#Edit protection. Tobyc75 (talk) 11:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Canton categories

Should canton-related subcategories contain a capital "C" for "Canton" in their names? There's a right old mixture at the moment. Please see and comment at WT:CFD#Canton categories.--Kotniski (talk) 12:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Angeli Custodi

Small towns, notable or not? Need your opinions about that and more on Talk:Angeli Custodi. KzKrann (talk) 11:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Popular pages stats request

I've made a request for this project to get its own entry in Category:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject. Once created, it will be available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Popular pages. The request key is c38cb9e.  Sandstein  13:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Really interesting, thanks. The shortcut is WP:CH/PP. mgeo talk 22:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

AFD for Synagogues in switzerland

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Synagogues in switzerland. East of Borschov 10:17, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Translations into French

Dear colleagues,
The WikiProject Switzerland on the French-speaking Wikipedia has created a page dedicated to the translation of Swiss articles from English, German and Italian into French. Don't hesitate to list overthere articles that do not exist in French or that are more developed in English. That would help us a lot. Regards Moumou82 (talk) 07:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Swiss

At Talk:Swiss (disambiguation) there is a discussion going on whether Swiss should redirect to Switzerland, Swiss people or a dab page. Thank you, in advance, for your opinions on the matter. mgeo talk 20:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Swiss red

I see that in many places across Wikipedia two different types of red are used when representing the Swiss flag (and the coat of arms). I think it would be nice to choose one and stick to it once and for all...Well, at least on English wiki.

The two three options are:

• 
  1. Hexadecimal #FF0000
• 
  2. Pantone 485
• 
  3. RGB (216, 0, 0)

Thoughts? mgeo talk 08:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I personally far prefer the second one. --Île flottante (talk) 16:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I personally far prefer the first... but I will try to find the correct Pantone colour from our firms records --Huligan0 (talk) 00:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Number 2 looks a lot closer to the real thing. MLauba ^(Talk) 01:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Here everything is explained precisely, therefore I suggest we stick to the guides designated hexadecimal RGB colour: #FF0000 for use on the Web. --Huligan0 (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Personally I would pick the second one, the color looks more natural to my eyes. mgeo talk 11:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I just uploaded a third version, which seems closer to reality. Pure red as the first one but a little darker (216 instead of 255). Could it be a good compromise? mgeo talk 15:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Third one i think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futbol vic (talk • contribs) 03:58, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see we are far from reaching a consensus here. I think the choice of the color is rather a matter of personal preference while using consistently the same flag in every article is objectively better and the File:Flag of Switzerland.svg can arguably be considered the default choice. So my proposition here is to use a bot to replace every File:Flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg with the above-mentioned. Obviously we can always change it later if we can reach a consensus. mgeo talk 18:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

This was all sussed out ages ago with a great deal of effort by many people at Commons:File talk:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg (and with less specific contributions acquired over time by Commons:WikiProject Flags). Unfortunately due to the unilateral actions of a single administrator there, the file we had been using on Wikipedias for ages now has to be manually altered locally to that of file:flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg (he moved the Pantone version from the normal file name to the (Pantone) one). This would be easy enough to fix on our end, but for the rampant "protection" of templates that deal with flags (among other things). (That is, an admin at Commons created the problem, and admins here at en make it hard to circumvent. :p) ¦ Reisio (talk) 11:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit war: colour of the Swiss flag and coat of arms (moved from Talk:Switzerland)

Lurid red: official logo of the (Federal Authorities of the) Swiss Confederation

Hello! Please note that the lurid red is the official red of the Swiss flag, coat of arms and the official logo of the Federal Authorities of the Swiss Confederation. On my discussion page you can read something about the right color. I can not understand why my changes have been always reset. You can see the logo on the website of the Federal Authorities of the Swiss Confederation (and for example in the “CD-Manual”; “CD” means “Corporate Design”). — PsY.cHo, 13:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

You’re referring to this document; on the third page you will find the image you’ve used on your talk page (and here to the right), which is used as an example of the "Bundeslogo" (which is not a flag, in case you hadn’t noticed), and on the fourth page you will find the Pantone and other color values used for manufacturing actual physical flags, among other things. ¦ Reisio (talk) 18:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

...now this - is what I call a really weird discussion. Obviously Switzerland must be a very, very happy place, indeed.[1]

Although I have seen flags of both colours on buildings in Switzerland - this → [2] seems to support your version.--IIIraute (talk) 13:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

There is a law on state symbols under discussion in the Federal Assembly (09.086, Markenschutzgesetz. Änderung sowie Swissness-Vorlage; BBl 2009 8693). If adopted, as seems likely (it was unopposed in the first chamber), it will define the flag's color in annex 1 (p. 8704) as all of the following: CMYK 0 / 100 / 100 / 0, Pantone 485 C / 485 U, RGB 255 / 0 / 0, Hexadezimal #FF0000, Scotchcal 100 -13, RAL 3020 Verkehrsrot, NCS S 1085-Y90R. So there will be more options to choose from ... although I myself have no problem with using any one or several of these official reds across Wikipedia.  Sandstein  17:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I've found this in de:Fahne und Wappen der Schweiz:

The top left color corresponds to the bright red (version 1) and the central color corresponds to the pantone version (#2) that we actually use in the articles Switzerland and Swiss flag (although it seems slightly different). Do you or someone else know if theses colors correspond to the ones mentioned in the document about the law on state symbols by any chance? I guess CMYK 0 / 100 / 100 / 0 = Hexadezimal #FF0000 = RGB 255 / 0 / 0, but I've no idea about the others. mgeo talk 21:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Pantone 485 C translates as D52B1E; so does Pantone 485 U. source User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 22:14, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, we have the color right already; the only problem is that because the flag was changed at commons and protected by admins who won't alter it, and the templates using flags here at en are protected by admins who won't alter them, we're using more than one version throughout the wiki. ¦ Reisio (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe a RFC would be the best way to settle this issue. I see we have several options here: allow any version of the flag to be used across wikipedia (as suggested by Sandstein) or to use consistently only one of the versions proposed above (as many editors seem to suggest). Does it seem a good idea? mgeo talk 20:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

To me it seems premature. PsY.cHo is the only one who seems to have been bothered enough to take action in recent history, and though he hasn’t responded, it’s pretty clear IMO by the information detailed above that he was simply not in possession of all the facts. Wikis are always subject to change forward and backwards. If you want a single image across Wikipedia you need but find an administrator motivated enough to change the "protected" flag templates for you. ¦ Reisio (talk) 21:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually I wasn't thinking of doing it really soon and I think I'd like to see more input from other editors before starting one. But the thing is, if we want to run a bot to change every "File:Flag of Switzerland.svg" to File:Flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg" (or vice versa) across English wikipedia, we'll probably need to have a better organized discussion than this one. Of course, if everyone agrees with one version then it'll be unnecessary to have a RFC, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now. mgeo talk 12:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

You seem to still be missing a couple key concepts and what they mean to this issue:

1. The "Pantone version" is actually the status quo. Before user:Zscout370 changed the file image:flag of Switzerland.svg at Commons, it had been (note filename & color) for (at least) over four years a consistent representation of the Swiss flag using its Pantone equivalent color.
   What this means:
   1. you don’t need a discussion to revert to the status quo, not when there was no discussion for departing from it (for starters).
   2. it’s a lot of work to fix a bad change at Commons without being able to revert the change at Commons (this is what brings us here)
2. The vast majority of Swiss flag instances on this wiki are included via templates.
   What this means:
   1. the templates are "protected" from editing, so you have to get an admin to make the changes.
   2. if you can get an admin to make the changes, it’s not actually that much work for a non-bot.

¦ Reisio (talk) 18:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, the reality now is that we have two versions used across wikipedia (English wiki to be precise) since the main flag file was changed to its actual color more than two years ago. So I think it makes sense to ask the community if there is one of the two flags that they prefer before starting to replace them in every article or template page. mgeo talk 23:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

It doesn’t. If they cared they would have done something about it as PsY.cHo or myself have. Please don’t make me re-type all of this nonsense just so you can shepherd an RfC that nobody’s interested in; there are better things to do with your time and mine. WP:RFC#Before_requesting_comment ¦ Reisio (talk) 00:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Canton

Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) has now started a discussion on the use of Canton, at Wikipedia talk:Article titles with the suggestion of moving the City in China to the primary name (it is currently at it's pinyin name, Guangzhou). Note, the province in China, Guangdong is also called "Canton" frequently in English. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 08:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Winter of Terror Article: Unassessed.

• Winter of Terror - Currently unassessed. New WikiProject Switzerland template has been added and waiting to be assesed. It would be appreciated. Adamdaley (talk) 11:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Morality detentions

This could be a useful source to discuss morality detentions of teenagers, which stopped in 1981.

• Foulkes, Imogen. "The trauma of Switzerland's morality detentions." BBC. 14 September 2010.

There's also a campaign site, written in German, at http://www.administrativ-versorgte.ch/ WhisperToMe (talk) 07:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Relevant SfD discussion

Feel free to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/January/30#Stub categories for Cantons of Switzerland, where te discussion of whether or not they should be renamed to remove the word "geography". עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Names like Corcelles, Switzerland

There are 7 villages in Switzerland with the name of Corcelles. The name of the village Corcelles, Switzerland therefore should be Corcelles, Bern, more correct would even be the official Swiss name Corcelles BE, but English people dislike evidently the use of the Swiss cantonal abbreviations like BE: almost the way Name of the village, Switzerland is not a good solution (in nearly most of the cases there are other places with the same name within Switzerland, so this is more confusing than explaining) - it is much more correct to adopt in Switzerland always the model Name of the village, name of the canton! So I propose to rename Corcelles, Switzerland into Corcelles, Bern (the same for Laufen, Rickenbach etc. etc.) DidiWeidmann (talk) 00:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

That would make sense if the other six were named just Corcelles but in fact, all other municipalities are named "Corcelles-something". So the reasoning for disambiguating from the other 6 Swiss municipalities is a bit moot (plus, 4 of the others are in the same canton). Isn't this a solution looking for a problem? MLauba ^(Talk) 03:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

It is not a sollution to call any village in Switzerland like the model VILLAGE NAME, SWITZERLAND! In the same way you never would use the model VILLAGE NAME, USA but VILLAGE NAME, TEXAS etc in the USA clearly as the states of the USA are souverain states like it is the case with the cantons in Switzerland. If you even analise more profundely you have to constate that all the 7 Corcelles in Switzerland are also separate villages. The solution of course is to rename all this Swiss municipalities or following the model of French Wikipedia or following the model of German Wikipedia. The said municipality which is named here Corcelles, Switzerland is officially called Corcelle BE (BE is the official lettercombination for Canton of Berne). Nobody in Switzerland woud understand which village is meant by Corcelles, Switzerland!!! But it would be clear which Corcelles is meant by Corcelle, Bern(e) [with our without e? ist an other question: English Wikipedia uses normally the German form Bern but the correkt English name would be Berne like in French --> French and German are both offical languages in the Canton of Berne!] --> But back to Corcelles and all other Swiss villages: This probleme should be generally discussed and the Swiss reality should be considered. It is a fact that municipalities are mainly governed by cantonal and only subsidiary by federal law! The Swiss cantons are souvereign states. So the names of municipalities should be treaten in a similar way as in USA or Germany. It is also a fact that a part of the names is following the model i propose Name, Canton other names are followining the model Name, Switzerland: Also for the uniformity of the names the problem should be considered! DidiWeidmann (talk) 13:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

There are cases when "X, Switzerland" is ambiguous (like the one mentioned above, fixed now) but others when it is clearly not (like Altdorf, Switzerland). The actual way of disambiguating the municipalities depending on the case seems fine to me. No need to imitate other countries. mgeo talk 17:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Portals in French not yet in English

Here are some Switzerland-related portals not yet in English, but are in French:

• fr:Portail:Zurich
• fr:Portail:Genève -> Portal:Geneva
• fr:Portail:Vaud
• fr:Portail:Tessin
• fr:Portail:Suisse centrale

WhisperToMe (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I think en.wiki portals for places within Switzerland would be a good idea. There are actually already more such portals in de.wiki than in fr.wiki - see de:Kategorie:Portal (Schweiz) - and also one such portal in it.wiki - see it:Portale:Ticino. There are also already en.wiki portals for, eg, Bavaria, Milan, Tyrol (recently created), and Vienna.

The problem is that it's not sufficient for an editor merely to create a portal (or translate one from fr.wiki, de.wiki, or it.wiki). It's also necessary for an editor to accept responsibility for keeping it going ... Bahnfrend (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Isn't it possible to set up a portal that simply cycles between things like Articles of the day, trivia, without maintenance needed? Then public interest can do the rest of the job. For instance I noticed that Portal:Government of the United States had outdated content. I simply posted it in many appropriate venues (as the portal creator had not done), and the portal lit up like a Christmas tree. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:19, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you can do that. Why don't you give it a try? Usually it's pretty easy to create a new en.wiki article about a Swiss topic. You just translate its de.wiki, fr.wiki, or it.wiki equivalent, using google translator if required. However, my brief researches indicate that creating a portal is a bit more difficult. You need to go to Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions and follow what it says. Maybe you could start with Geneva, using the fr and de portals for Geneva as inspirations rather than as a basis for a straight translation. Bahnfrend (talk) 08:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I guess I could try that. On a weekend or some time when I have a lot of spare time I'll start on Geneva first :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I started Portal:Geneva WhisperToMe (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

New article Swiss Tax Return

I propose an article on the Swiss tax return. Having worked through it on two occasions, I believe others would benefit from a descriptive guide. I believe this would not only benefit those working through the return forms, but also act as a springboard to the various tax related topics. I am willing to initiate. Pmacaodh (talk) 08:21, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's already Taxation in Switzerland. An article about the tax return (you mean the document?) would probably duplicate that to the extent it wouldn't conflict with WP:NOTHOWTO. And what's more, each of the 26 cantons has its own tax return form.  Sandstein  08:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the link to the guidelines. I don't think it would be productive to provide an instruction manual either - this is provided with the return anyway. I have seen the Taxation in Switzerland article also, but it falls short of covering all of the areas one needs to consider in a return. For example, 'Eigenmietwert' is a foreign concept to many. It's mentioned on the DE Wikipedia, but not the EN version. Perhaps Wikipedia is not the right forum for such an esoteric topic though. However, the DE Wikipedia does approach it. [3]. In my opinion this method of structuring along Federal, Cantonal and Local levels is a better way to organise the information, rather than by tax categories. Perhaps, 'Tax Return' is not the right title. 'System' or 'Law' as used in the DE article would be more appropriate. Pmacaodh (talk) 13:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Francophone

Francophone has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 04:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Article alerts

Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Article alerts has been created; generating Article alerts for this WikiProject. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Crans-Montana

The Crans-Montana page describes the Omega European Masters as the second biggest event in European golf. This is clearly not true - the BMW PGA Championship, Dubai World Championship, The Open, Scottish Open, French Open and World Match Play all have bigger prize funds and generally attract better-quality fields. The Omega European Masters is, however, one of the longest-running tournaments and has been held at the same venue for more consecutive years (24) than any other European Tour event — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.98.205 (talk) 09:35, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Unsourced speculative edits by anonymous

The currently blocked anonymous 2.224.12.20 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has a history of problematic edits to articles about Germany, in which he/she repeatedly added unsourced information about administrative subdivisions that may become effective in the (distant) future, but doesn't reflect the current situation. Since he/she also edited several articles on Swiss administrative subdivisions, could someone have a look at his/her contributions? Markussep ^Talk 11:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Swiss town template

I proposed a few changes to this template on Template_talk:Infobox_Swiss_town#Proposed_edit. Any comments on this edit or suggestions for further improvements are welcome!--Ultimate Destiny (talk) 23:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Category:Canton of Neuchâtel geography stubs

Template:Sfdnotify1 Dawynn (talk) 03:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Switzerland will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Switzerland's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Liechtenstein-related articles

I've untagged the following articles as they are clearly not in the scope of WikiProject Switzerland (the main project page doesn't mention Liechtenstein anywhere and all these articles are already covered by Wikipedia:WikiProject European Microstates and Wikipedia:WikiProject Liechtenstein):

• Liechtenstein
• Vaduz
• .li
• Rugby union in Liechtenstein
• Category:Football in Liechtenstein
• Category:Footballers of Liechtenstein
• Category:Football competitions in Liechtenstein
• Category:Football venues in Liechtenstein
• Category:Football clubs in Liechtenstein
• In case you disagree, be sure to let me know. Cheers! mgeo talk 01:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Toolserver replication lag

Just a note to inform the editors that we're having a huge replication lag at the moment (see related thread at the village pump) and it can be several days, if not weeks, before it gets back to normal. This means the external watchlist, among other things, is out of service for now. So in case there is something going on (discussion or other) in any Switzerland-related article do not hesitate to report it in this talk page. mgeo talk 21:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

"Toolserver performance is expected to improve on Friday" according to the Signpost. mgeo talk 21:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Good news, everything is working now. mgeo talk 11:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Zurich University of Applied Sciences - Edit

We would like to edit our article about the [University of Applied Science] so that it is of higher quality and easier to read. So far the article is not yielding that much. Our plan is to keep the paragraphs about our departments/faculties short in the main article. Therefor each department should get an own article. Furthermore we would like to add new chapters like „campus“, continuing education“ and „research“. Now it is the question: Which process would you prefer: pasting the changes one by one or all at once into the existing article? Zhaw CC (talk) 13:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

If you feel confident about your editing skills, then you may rewrite the article all at once. Of course you can do it in several edits if you prefer, but you have no obligation to do so. You can also propose your changes on the article's talk page before implementing them (this is recommended in a case of a major or controversial change but not strictly required, especially when simply expanding an article). mgeo talk 18:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Zurich Universitiy of Applied Sciences: wrong title

We just recognized that the title of the article “Zurich University of Applied Science” is wrong. The current title is the one of the ZHAW [4] (Zürcher Hochschule für Angewandte Wissenschaften)). This might cause confusion. The title should be: Zurich Universities of Applied Sciences and Arts. That is the correct designation for the ZFH (Zürcher Fachhochschule in German). According to our translator is the ZFH = Zurich Universities of Applied Sciences and Arts because this is the official term and it is in our terminology database.

How can we edit the title of this article?Zhaw CC (talk) 07:38, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

You can use the "move" function at the top of the page (direct link).  Sandstein  09:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Lost umlaut

Does everyone in this project endorse "Zurich" without the Umlaut? I have the feeling that this dates back to the dark ages of the ASCII character set which made it next to impossible for people to find them on their keyboards. The Häagen-Dasz brand was established in 1961 (in New York), so I would venture to say that at least the ä has been around for 51 years in the English-language cosmos. My suggestion is to handle Zürich just like Düsseldorf is handled: with the umlaut. Itla66 (talk) 08:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The short answer to your question is "no". I, for one, prefer Zürich. However, it's not as simple an issue as you suggest. The Wikipedia article naming conventions include the maxim "use English". If reliable English-language sources, including printed sources, use umlauts or diacritics, etc, in the name of a city, then the umlauts, diacritics, etc, can also be used on Wikipedia. See WP:DIACRITICS. For example, Düsseldorf is often referred to in English language sources with the umlaut, so the umlaut can also be, and is, used in Wikipedia. An similar example (from Portuguese) is São Paulo. On the other hand, European cities that were well known to English speakers many years ago, and either transliterated or referred to without umlauts, diacritics, etc, are generally still transliterated and/or spelled without the umlauts or diacritics. Examples include of this alternative practice include Nuremberg (Nürnberg in German) and Rome (Roma in Italian). Unfortunately, it is possible to put Zürich/Zurich into both of these alternative categories, and therefore its correct spelling, for the purposes of Wikipedia, is controversial. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

But let's at least keep the spelling consistent within any given article. Jjgw (talk) 17:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Gustave Moynier

I suggest inclusion of this article in this WikiProject. The artcile indicates he is a swiss jurist, born to a "rich and established Geneva family of merchant and bankers." Moreover, he is one of the founding members of the International Committee of the Red Cross. And in the list of founding members of the Institut de Droit International, his home city is listed as Geneva. IMHO (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for mentioning this interesting article, I just tagged it. In case you find other similar articles, do not hesitate to tag or list them here. mgeo talk 10:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:CH — incorrect coat of arms

See also: Template talk:Infobox Canton § Incorrect use of coat of arms

Hello! Please edit the above named template because the now used coat of arms of the cantons of Basel-Landschaft and St. Gallen are incorrect (see the link above). Wappen Basel-Landschaft matt.svg should renamed in Coat of arms of Kanton Basel-Landschaft.svg and Wappen St. Gallen matt.svg in Coat of arms of canton of St. Gallen.svg. Further information: bl.ch and sg.ch. Thank you. — PsY.cHo, 14:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Legal name of company raided by police

In this version Yara International there are references about Balderton. What is the name of the Government registry where I can find the full legal name of the company? Balderton gmbh?