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Doug, can you take a look at the archive settings on Talk:Gospel of the Ebionites and tell me what I did wrong and how to make it right? I suspect I should have set the counter to 1. The archives should read archive1 and archive2 instead of archive 5 and archive6, and the archive links don't display properly on the template. Can this be fixed? Thanks. Ignocrates (talk) 03:45, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I left a message at the help desk here as a first step. Ignocrates (talk) 15:19, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- The help desk has taken care of it. Ignocrates (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Request
Please verify and watch these articles. Similar edit wars and non-constructive edits started by IP users. Articles:
Thanks. Zheek (talk) 20:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hey Doug, I think I will let you handle the edit warring on Template:History of the Turks pre-14th century. I have had my fill of edit warriors using multiple IPs to get their way. I am going back to List of papal bulls and lose myself in some reference searching for a few hours. Have fun! --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Dougweller, Can you help and comment on consensus section?: Template_talk:History_of_the_Turks_pre-14th_century#Consensus_for_the_content_dispute. Thanks. Zheek (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Jrrao sockpuppet investigation
[1]. — goethean 15:30, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the citation on the NCSE page
At that article, I was just "passing through" and didn't have enough interest to do further work. So I put up a "cite needed" tag and left the matter to those whose interest might be greater. Your citation fulfills the need. Thanks. Cordially, O Govinda (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi! The article was once {{COI}} tagged by Tuckerresearch after the edit by the subject himself. After discussing with Tuckerresearch, I copy edited the article myself, removing the tag.[2]
discussion at Tuckerresearch's talk page
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Article on Joseph DavidovitsHi, I have done some copy edits to the lead section[3] hoping to achieve neutrality. FYI, while making that edit, he wrote the in summary: " He has his autobiography originally published in his won website http://www.davidovits.info/ . I think he has almost adhered to Wikipedia:Autobiography#If Wikipedia already has an article about you]. Now, the only part containing his direct contributions is the section Career (ncluding its subsection). But it is written like a timeline of events. Can you please help in finding the parts which are biased. Kind regards···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 20:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
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Since you have reverted[4] the recent addition[5]; the article does not contain any content added by the subject himself except at the carrier section which has already undergone copyediting from me. So, can that {{COI}} template be removed? If possible, could you also give me some suggestions to improve its neutrality further. Thanks!···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 21:09, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your kindness. Regards.···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 16:09, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
The "real" problem
I tell you, the obvious problem is the lack of software that checks sock puppets by itself. But the real problem is what no one wants to talk about: that the people at WMF are always smiling (because they have no deadlines and no competition, so they can feel great) and all the dedicated volunteers on ANI (like you) have to work 10 times as hard (and get stressed) to keep the encyclopedia running using antique software tools.
No one wants to talk about this: it is the unmentionable. But I have always said that if the programmers at WMF had been working for me, I would have fired them all by now. Twice over. Someone should tell Erik Möller: "get a better sock puppet tool working in 3 months or you are fired". If he does not get it, fire him! But no one ever gets fired at WMF, it is the friendliest culture on earth. No deadlines, no pressure. The work just gets pushed to the dedicated volunteers. That is the real problem.
It should really take less than 60 days for two smart programmers to get an automated sock puppet system that does not invade privacy (because no one sees the details) but just gives warnings by partial match scoring. The fellow who wrote Cluebot can probably do it in 30 days (I do not know who he is, but he is clearly smart enough). So fire Möller, hire the fellow who wrote Cluebot. Most of these problems will then go away. History2007 (talk) 22:18, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I left a message for MRG and she may just make it happen, if anyone can... History2007 (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Removal of my references on Sir Arthur Lawley
I have written the only biography of Sir Arthur Lawley in conjunction with the Empire and Commonwealth Museum in Bristol, U.K. and the National Trust at Tyntesfield. I was helped extensively by Eustace Lord Wraxall, Sir Arthur Lawley's grandson. The book was presented to the Governor of Tamil Nadu in 2010, and is in all the major libraries in the United Kingdom. I have given a lecture on Sir Arthur Lawley at the Royal Geographical Society in London, U.K. I am a Fellow of teh Royal Geographical society. All my basic references are in the iBook if you need to check these.(----) — Preceding unsigned comment added by David J. Hogg (talk • contribs) 23:09, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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All my citations in the article on Sir Arthur Lawley, 6th Baron Wenlock have been removed by two Wikipedia editors. I have written the only biography of Sir Arthur Lawley in existence — "Sir Arthur Lawley, Eloquent Knight Errant". I worked in conjunction with the Empire and Commonwealth Museum in Bristol, UK and the National Trust at Tyntesfield in England. I was helped extensively by Eustace Lord Wraxall, Sir Arthur Lawley's grandson. Robert Bell of Langcliffe, Sir Arthur Lawley's great grandson, was also very helpful. All the family portraits, photo albums, books diaries and letters were open to me. The Foreword to the book was written by Lord Wraxall and the Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia. The book was presented to the Governor of Tamil Nadu, and is in all the major libraries in the United Kingdom. Much of the work was done at the Bodleian Library in Oxford, Rhodes Mandela House in Oxford, the British Library and the National Archives in Kew, London. I also researched at Harvard, in New York, in Pretoria, South Africa, and in Zimbabwe. I have given a lecture on Sir Arthur Lawley at the Royal Geographical Society in London, U.K. All my basic references are in the iBook if you need to check these. It is quite absurd to reject the leading expert on Sir Arthur Lawley in Wikipedia. This book was self published in the United Kingdom with the support of the Empire and Commonwealth Museum and Tyntesfield and published by Lady Lawley Cottage and the Red Cross in Western Australia. 600 copies have been sold and it is now an iBook. All my references are in the printed books and in the iBook I enclose the Foreword by Lord Wraxall and the Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia.
I am new to Wikipedia and cannot find my way round your system. Could you please contact the two editors and re-instate my references.
Foreword by Lord Wraxall The Right Honourable the Lord Wraxall, KCVO, CMG.
My grandfather died in 1932 when I was only three years old and although he no doubt saw me from time to time as a toddler, I have no recollection of him at all. After my grandmother came to live at Tyntesfield during the war, I then heard a great deal about him, and my mother often spoke about her father in terms which made clear her strong affection and admiration for him. Of course neither my grandmother nor my mother ever gave a continuous account of my grandfather’s life; their references to him were as it were episodic. They were however enough to convince me that he had indeed been a remarkable man, who lived a life of exceptional interest. I know that both of them would have been delighted that at last a biography of him had been written, which shows just how exceptional his life had been. Moreover owing to David Hogg’s indefatigable research work much more information has come to light, of which even my grandparents were unaware. For example my mother always maintained that the origins of the Cunard family were lost in the mists of time. Now we know precisely where they came from in Germany and when they emigrated to America. For all his painstaking research and the valuable information it has produced, but above all for his undertaking to write a life of my grandfather, I owe David Hogg a major debt of gratitude. I believe this biography makes an important addition to knowledge of the British Empire in its heyday and enables us better to understand the actions and motives of those entrusted with its administration.
THE THIRD BARON WRAXALL of Clyst St George
Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia
His Excellency Lieutenant-General John Sanderson, AC., Governor of Western Australia
Effective leadership can be defined by strong ethical principles, bolstered by courage, determination and imagination all the traits displayed by Captain Sir Arthur Lawley in his illustrious career and life. Sir Arthur came to Western Australia when he was appointed Governor of the State on the cusp of federation of the Australian nation. The State was just newly formed, and faced great challenges to carve out a solid place in the new united nation. On his arrival, to take up his appointment in 1901, Sir Arthur presented his credentials in Perth then immediately set sail to Melbourne to represent Western Australia at the opening of the Federal Parliament in Melboume in May by the Duke of York, later King George V. Sir Arthur’s governorship was not a long one. He quit the position on the Declaration of Peace in 1902 to take up the important post of Lieutenant Govemor of the Transvaal. History records that though his time was brief, he carried out his duties as the Crown's representative with great ability, handling several political crises during his time. He laid the foundation stones for two of the State's most important institutions the Parliament of Western Australia and the Supreme Court of Westem Australia. His sense of justice and compassion was reflected in his support for the Australian forces sent to relieve Mateking during the Boer War and his expressed sympathy for the injured and dead soldiers. He was also reputed to have led the State's social life with aplomb, supported admirably by his wife, Lady Annie Lawley, who identified herself with community welfare issues and organisations. Lady Lawley was the instigator of the Lady Lawley Cottage for children in Cottesloe, which today still bears her name. Her husband, too, felt bound by moral considerations to support society's underprivileged and later in life became Chairman of the Child Emigration Society in Britain (from 1921 until his death in 1932), a position he used to give strong assistance to the Fairbridge Farm School in Western Australia. He was able to get support from the Royal family with the then Prince of Wales giving the scheme his enthusiastic backing. Later the Duke and Duchess of York visited Fairbridge in 1927. Sir Arthur also persuaded his friend from his days in South Africa, Sir Herbert E. Baker, to accept the commission as architect of the chapel at Fairbridge. Sir Arthur and Lady Lawley last visited Western Australia in 1927 and made a particular point of going to Fairbridge and to Lady Lawley Cottage. Western Australians are very familiar with the name Lawley. Mount Lawley is a flourishing inner suburb of the State's City of Perth, named after Sir Arthur. His wife agreed to a suggestion that it be named after her husband but only on her strict instruction that no licensed hotels would be built in the suburb! This book gives us all a better appreciation of the man and his achievements as a leader and contributor to society on a broad worldly scale. It will be a particularly useful reference for those Western Australians keen to examine the State’s history in more detail, especially so because it includes rare photographs of Western Australia and of the opening of the Federal Parliament from Sir Arthur’s personal albums that were unearthed after laying hidden for many years at Tyntesfield, the home of the late Lord Richard Wraxall, near Bristol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.245.173 (talk) 16:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Mosaic authorship POV
Hello Dougweller,
I did not write that last paragraph, its from a source. I thought that it was more logical reasoning in explaining the view that Mosaic authorship has earlier roots, than simply a POV.
I did not write about those 6 verses, that was there from a previous editor who was trying to show that there are only 6 references to some "vague" laws of Moses. I thought that it was appropriate to cite Miller in his general critique of that whole body of work that repeatedly points out that there is no mention of Moses writing a Torah, only laws, that the Hebrew Torah uses the term Torah and not laws. It is he who writes that the fact that they did not read or understand Hebrew was a reason for their insistence that there is no mention anywhere in the Torah of Moses writing the Torah. This point is very important as it provides a strong basis for Mosaic authorship. This is neither original research or POV.
Since the previous editor saw fit to cite 6 verses and point out that there is never a reference to a specific law, I thought that this mistake should be corrected. Again I wasn't the editor that started citing those verses.
As to pointing out that all bibles have Nehemia reading only in the book and not the complete book, I do not think that this qualifies as research. McEntire stated a fact that is verifiabley not true. This is no different than if a source would misstate any other verifiable fact.
Also if you look at what the article was like before I made my edits it was not at all neutral either. It was completely dismissive of Mosaic authorship, and the whole article consisted exclusively of proof upon proof that Moses did not write the Torah, with the conclusion that it has no basis in fact.
However you are an administrator and allot more familiar with WP guidelines than I am, so I defer to your view on this matter. It is certainly not my desire to write stuff that should not be on WP. L69 (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
I am not sure what you are referring to when I copied and pasted from another WP article. If you are referring to the copy and paste from the verses in Torah I cited that on Torah from a source and also cited the source on Mosaic authorship. L69 (talk) 17:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
PS Did you receive a complaint about me that triggered this review? L69 (talk) 17:55, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Self-published book being used for Arthur Lawley, 6th Baron Wenlock (Published by Lady Lawley Cottage and the Red Cross in Australia)
All my citations in the article on Sir Arthur Lawley, 6th Baron Wenlock have been removed by two Wikipedia editors. I have written the only biography of Sir Arthur Lawley in existence — "Sir Arthur Lawley, Eloquent Knight Errant". I worked in conjunction with the Empire and Commonwealth Museum in Bristol, UK and the National Trust at Tyntesfield in England. I was helped extensively by Eustace Lord Wraxall, Sir Arthur Lawley's grandson. Robert Bell of Langcliffe, Sir Arthur Lawley's great grandson, was also very helpful. All the family portraits, photo albums, books diaries and letters were open to me. The Foreword to the book was written by Lord Wraxall and the Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia. The book was presented to the Governor of Tamil Nadu, and is in all the major libraries in the United Kingdom. Much of the work was done at the Bodleian Library in Oxford, Rhodes Mandela House in Oxford, the British Library and the National Archives in Kew, London. I also researched at Harvard, in New York, in Pretoria, South Africa, and in Zimbabwe. I have given a lecture on Sir Arthur Lawley at the Royal Geographical Society in London, U.K. All my basic references are in the iBook if you need to check these. It is quite absurd to reject the leading expert on Sir Arthur Lawley in Wikipedia. This book was self published in the United Kingdom with the support of the Empire and Commonwealth Museum and Tyntesfield and published by Lady Lawley Cottage and the Red Cross in Western Australia. 600 copies have been sold and it is now an iBook. All my references are in the printed books and in the iBook I enclose the Foreword by Lord Wraxall and the Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia. I am new to Wikipedia and cannot find my way round your system. Could you please contact the two editors and re-instate my references.
Foreword by Lord Wraxall
The Right Honourable the Lord Wraxall, KCVO, CMG. My grandfather died in 1932 when I was only three years old and although he no doubt saw me from time to time as a toddler, I have no recollection of him at all. After my grandmother came to live at Tyntesfield during the war, I then heard a great deal about him, and my mother often spoke about her father in terms which made clear her strong affection and admiration for him. Of course neither my grandmother nor my mother ever gave a continuous account of my grandfather’s life; their references to him were as it were episodic. They were however enough to convince me that he had indeed been a remarkable man, who lived a life of exceptional interest. I know that both of them would have been delighted that at last a biography of him had been written, which shows just how exceptional his life had been. Moreover owing to David Hogg’s indefatigable research work much more information has come to light, of which even my grandparents were unaware. For example my mother always maintained that the origins of the Cunard family were lost in the mists of time. Now we know precisely where they came from in Germany and when they emigrated to America. For all his painstaking research and the valuable information it has produced, but above all for his undertaking to write a life of my grandfather, I owe David Hogg a major debt of gratitude. I believe this biography makes an important addition to knowledge of the British Empire in its heyday and enables us better to understand the actions and motives of those entrusted with its administration. THE THIRD BARON WRAXALL of Clyst St George
Introduction by the Governor of Western Australia
His Excellency Lieutenant-General John Sanderson, AC., Governor of Western Australia Effective leadership can be defined by strong ethical principles, bolstered by courage, determination and imagination all the traits displayed by Captain Sir Arthur Lawley in his illustrious career and life. Sir Arthur came to Western Australia when he was appointed Governor of the State on the cusp of federation of the Australian nation. The State was just newly formed, and faced great challenges to carve out a solid place in the new united nation. On his arrival, to take up his appointment in 1901, Sir Arthur presented his credentials in Perth then immediately set sail to Melbourne to represent Western Australia at the opening of the Federal Parliament in Melboume in May by the Duke of York, later King George V. Sir Arthur’s governorship was not a long one. He quit the position on the Declaration of Peace in 1902 to take up the important post of Lieutenant Govemor of the Transvaal. History records that though his time was brief, he carried out his duties as the Crown's representative with great ability, handling several political crises during his time. He laid the foundation stones for two of the State's most important institutions the Parliament of Western Australia and the Supreme Court of Westem Australia. His sense of justice and compassion was reflected in his support for the Australian forces sent to relieve Mateking during the Boer War and his expressed sympathy for the injured and dead soldiers. He was also reputed to have led the State's social life with aplomb, supported admirably by his wife, Lady Annie Lawley, who identified herself with community welfare issues and organisations. Lady Lawley was the instigator of the Lady Lawley Cottage for children in Cottesloe, which today still bears her name. Her husband, too, felt bound by moral considerations to support society's underprivileged and later in life became Chairman of the Child Emigration Society in Britain (from 1921 until his death in 1932), a position he used to give strong assistance to the Fairbridge Farm School in Western Australia. He was able to get support from the Royal family with the then Prince of Wales giving the scheme his enthusiastic backing. Later the Duke and Duchess of York visited Fairbridge in 1927. Sir Arthur also persuaded his friend from his days in South Africa, Sir Herbert E. Baker, to accept the commission as architect of the chapel at Fairbridge. Sir Arthur and Lady Lawley last visited Western Australia in 1927 and made a particular point of going to Fairbridge and to Lady Lawley Cottage. Western Australians are very familiar with the name Lawley. Mount Lawley is a flourishing inner suburb of the State's City of Perth, named after Sir Arthur. His wife agreed to a suggestion that it be named after her husband but only on her strict instruction that no licensed hotels would be built in the suburb! This book gives us all a better appreciation of the man and his achievements as a leader and contributor to society on a broad worldly scale. It will be a particularly useful reference for those Western Australians keen to examine the State’s history in more detail, especially so because it includes rare photographs of Western Australia and of the opening of the Federal Parliament from Sir Arthur’s personal albums that were unearthed after laying hidden for many years at Tyntesfield, the home of the late Lord Richard Wraxall, near Bristol.
There are currently about 5000 Fellows of the Royal Geographical Society. However only a few have given lectures to the Society.(----) — Preceding unsigned comment added by David J. Hogg (talk • contribs) 18:58, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
I removed last paragraph from Mosaic authorship
I decided that if you, an administrator, who understands WP policy allot better than I do, held that its POV its best that I remove it. L69 (talk) 19:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks for the barnstar. Theory of Phoenician discovery of the Americas was a challenging article to write, having to wend one's way through sources of varying quality, but I was pretty happy with the "end" result. StAnselm (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Wala (island)
I noticed your deletion of Wala (island) because it was created by a blocked user. I understand that such deletions are standard procedure, but I can't see anything nefarious in that article. Could you please restore it either into article space or userfy it (preferrably with history) into my user space. Thanks. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Why my changes are Reverted?
Hi Dougweller,
I am not trying to promote LPU, All I want is to insert the correct information that can be helpful to the users. These are real information from genuine sources like The Tribune, Hindustan Times etc.
If not through press release,Please let me know any other source through which I can insert information that can be useful to the user.
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Hi! I think you have missed my message above. Waiting for your reply. Thanks and regards.···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 20:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Please see -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Neo-Babylonian_Empire#Requesting_semi-protection_for_the_article_- THANK YOU HammerFilmFan (talk) 03:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Copying Sources by L69
I saw your contrib log and I am figuring that the 1st edit that you saw from me was The Kastner Trial. I got that from Perfidy by Ben Hecht and will go back and cite that. Your reference to copy and pasting was about the Auschwitz Bombing Debate, where I copied from Wyman. I will go back and write that in my own words. Those are important facts. You asked me if I ever copied and pasted on other articles, I thought about it, and I did in one other article. I will fix that also. I do allot of work writing legal briefs and citations in that form of writing must be verbatim.
Also is there any proper way to point out with clear and sourced verification that a source states facts that are factually false. Having something written that is plainly wrong is not a policy that I would think an encyclopedia would want to have. L69 (talk) 06:32, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Just a hello
I see your name around all the time and I hope you haven't given up on our Rome related articles! Just stopping by to say "Hi"!--Amadscientist (talk) 07:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
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He is currently involved in an edit war on Definitions of whiteness in the United States over content he insists is not supported by the citations. As someone who has checked them out (which is why I included them), this is not true. This leads me to believe that he is simply being disruptive. Any advice?Evildoer187 (talk) 20:14, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Stop Lying and Stalking
You're the editor who stalked me for the SPLC page, lied three times at the CRBC page (no, I don't believe you somehow forgot that the notability tag you put up on March 9 had only been up for five days when on March 14 you said it had been up for 2 months), etc. Please don't contact me or post on my page again. Yeoberry (talk) 21:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)