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Happy New Year BOZ!

Happy New Year!
Hello BOZ:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 09:38, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Hey, thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for undeletion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that a response has been made at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion regarding a submission you made. The thread is Cam Banks. JohnCD (talk) 14:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Will try to work on Draft:Cam Banks later today. BOZ (talk) 17:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pyramid Magazine

I had a look to see what they'd reviewed. Apparently they stopped reviews four years ago :( Neonchameleon (talk) 14:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it was somewhere around the first year or two of D&D fourth edition as I recall. That was when they stopped the "online articles" version and switched to a packaged PDF version. At least, that's as far as I understand. BOZ (talk) 16:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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A beer for you!

For help with The Dresden Files Roleplaying Game Neonchameleon (talk) 04:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Seeman

I am pretty sure that Chris Seeman the game designer and Christopher Seeman the theology professor are two different people. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so sure! This link I took from this search begs to differ, unless I am just missing something. BOZ (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, having seen this and this, I stand corrected. bd2412 T 21:13, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No worries - I mean, I had to check it out to believe it too. :) BOZ (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you give Gary Con another look?

Thanks for the tweak on the DYK. I've built up the page somewhat using found sources. Really could use more reliable secondaries. BusterD (talk) 15:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will see what I can do. I have been working with Shannon Appelcline's "Designers & Dragons" for a few months now, and I don't think the first edition mentions Gary Con. I have seen a preview of the revised edition, and I don't remember if he talks about the convention, but I think he does mention Gygax Magazine and their new company. BOZ (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

98.220.109.211

Hey, man. You might want to deal with this vandal-only IP user that you blocked recently. This is the diff he wrote shortly after you blocked him. BattleshipMan (talk) 19:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did see that, but I'm not sure what more I can do with the IP, given that I have blocked it for six months. If they continue to be disruptive on their talk page, I can semi-protect it again. BOZ (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's one guy using this IP. This guy has a history of vandalizing and seems to enjoy doing that for sure, based what he said on his talk page. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:10, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Asking your help

Hi, BOZ, Hope you're well. I have an admin-related question, and I thought before opening anything formal I could try to keep things from escalating by getting a knowledgeable opinion.

I've started at RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Stand-alone lists‎#Request for Comment. It's to solicit comments on whether to make a guideline change. I think any guideline/policy change is fairly serious and one that should probably be undertaken with care. The RfC asks whether a specific change should be made. If editors don't believe so, then there's no sense in jumping to the details and specifics of how to implement what by all accounts would be a difficult amendment to craft.

I've just posted it today, and within a short time another editor has come there with no opinion, pro or con, on the RfC question itself. All he's doing is ragging on how even asking the question is "a waste of time" — deliberately trying to cut short any discussion whatsoever and basically saying I don't have a right to ask the question.

Would it be possible for an admin to remove these extraneous comments, his and mine, since they have nothing to do with discussing the question and seem designed to prevent anyone from discussing it? Thanks for any advice. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that I can, or should, remove his comments unless he is being deliberately disruptive. The best way I know of to deal with someone who is not trying to help is to not reply to them, if possible. BOZ (talk) 20:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He's being deliberately disruptive — he's not said a word about the topic, and all he does is keep repeating, in essence, "What a stupid question." Since this muddies the page and would certainly prevent any sensible editor form wanting to wade into the RfC now, it looks like disruption is the only thing going on. You've known me long enough to know I wouldn't ask for help lightly. (And I'm talking about removing both of our comments unrelated to "agree" or "oppose".) --Tenebrae (talk) 21:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I could probably hide the comments if they are really going nowhere fast, but I do not think I should delete them unless they are outright abusive. BOZ (talk) 23:36, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever you think best. He's not being abusive, but clearly disruptive, and seemed intent on turning the conversation into a dick-swinging contest for its own sake. The whole think left me perplexed. It certainly wasn't constructive in the least. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IP that may need to be blocked

Hi. I think this user may be in need of a block. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've watchlisted the talk page; let me know if the issues persist after your warning. BOZ (talk) 03:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. This IP has been given numerous warnings, include two final warnings for adding unsourced material. He/she recently made this edit. Can you please block it? Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 00:11, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Those other warnings are pretty stale and may not be regarding the same issue, but I will give another warning and if that is ignored then I think we have legitimate cause for a block. While this IP has been in use for a year and a half with a clean block log, it is not in heavy use so we have no idea if the same person has been using it so a block may be pointless - and for that matter, even a warning may be pointless. BOZ (talk) 13:24, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry about that

I put up the article before I saw the page that now has my apology: Draft_talk:S._John_Ross_(writer)#I_didn.27t_mean_to_step_on_anybody.27s_toes. Sorry about that. Alden Loveshade (talk) 03:06, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your help on S. John Ross (game designer). If I work on any of the articles you have in drafts, what's the best way for me to do that so I don't make extra work for you or another admin? Alden Loveshade (talk) 17:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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re: William H. Keith's page

Hi, Boz. I'm WHK1streader (William H. Keith's first reader, A.K.A. proofreader, inhouse editor, office manager, webster, bookkeeper, chief cook, bottle washer, and personal partner.

He and I are both a little concerned that there are now some *huge* paragraphs about his brother Andrew's work on his page; especially since his bibliography is so long to begin with. I'm considering creating, and linking to, another page just for his bibliography.

I'd like your input on the idea of creating a page for J. Andrew Keith, and putting the games information there (in his honor), with a link back to Bill's page, and an external link to his memorial page on the web.

Looking forward to hearing from you. You can contact either/both of us directly by using the links from his web site (navigation feedback, bottom of home page).

Thanks! WHK1streader (talk) 17:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for contacting me! I did do some work on William H. Keith, Jr.'s page last year a few months ago. I am sorry to hear that J. Andrew Keith has passed away; if you start a page for him I will undoubtedly have some information to add to it. I do support the creation of a page for him. One concern I had was that William's page was unsourced before I added to it, so if you can find any sources for Andrew's page before you write it that would help to keep it from being deleted (information from an obituary and/or memorial page would be a good start). BOZ (talk) 02:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Boz, I've started a page for Andrew Keith. It's still in the draft phase: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WHK1streader/J._Andrew_Keith I have transferred your text from Bill's page, almost verbatim. Feel free to contribute to it, either before or after it goes live, and please give me your feedback on it, if you would be so kind. ~ Brea — Preceding unsigned comment added by WHK1streader (talkcontribs) 22:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about User:WHK1streader/J. Andrew Keith - I will have a look. I think there may be more information about him in my source, so when I get a chance I will have a look at that and see what I can do to improve the draft before publishing it as an article. BOZ (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I did some work on J. Andrew Keith and moved it into article space; take a look! BOZ (talk) 23:05, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Do you really think a 24 block will have any effect on a user who commits persistent vandalism sporadically, with spans of days in between each act of vandalism? Nightscream (talk) 01:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If smaller blocks don't work, we can always go for bigger ones down the line. The hope is always that the user gets the message before we get to that point. BOZ (talk) 01:50, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@BOZ: FYI: you added a note to AN/I referencing me which was quickly removed diff w/o comment. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - will restore that; I think it was removed in error. BOZ (talk) 20:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for saving deletion

Could you userfy the last version of Leuren Moret? Bachcell (talk) 18:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to ask the closing admin, Mkdw, since that article was deleted after its fifth AFD. BOZ (talk) 20:34, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It has been userfied to User:Bachcell/Leuren Moret. Mkdwtalk 21:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
thank you Bachcell (talk) 16:22, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Al Plastino

This is a neutral notice to a WikiProject Comics member of a discussion at Talk:Al Plastino and an edit-war over fringe science and family/friend editing of Al Plastino. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, where's my 10-foot pole...  ;) BOZ (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I am constantly amazed by all the work you continue to do here! Web Warlock (talk) 18:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article Bogun (Dungeons & Dragons) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

I don't believe this D&D monster has notability of its own. All listed sources are D&D manuals, and a web search only turns up blogs and wikis.

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Discussion on a source for comics articles

Hi. Your opinion could be very useful in this discussion. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 12:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Middlefaire Edit War

I don't want to get into an edit war with another user, so as you're an admin I'd like your help. There's a new festival planned for a renaissance fair site that I added to List of Renaissance fairs; another editor removed the notice, a link, and the dates. If you have time, please see here. If you're tied up and don't have a chance to check this in the next day or so, I understand, and can ask another admin to check for me. Thanks for your help! Alden Loveshade (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No it can't be merged, it was written by a banned user (trust me, or proof available on request) and the material is not usable. (If the material was usable, there'd be no reason to merge it rather than keeping it as a standalone article, as it's a large article.) If this wasn't clear, that's fine, it's not possible to know everything. I move a two-sentence stub into the target article, so if you would be kind enough to delete the page to hide the page history and recreate it as a redirect with the content #REDIRECT [[List of Marvel Comics characters: T#Thermal Man]], that'd be great.

If you restored it because you have a philosophical problem with deleting a swath of good material, that's different, and we can talk about that. But you're a cop, not a judge, and the rule is clear. Herostratus (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough – yeah, I do have a philosophical problem with deleting good material, but I will do as you suggest with the redirect. Shame that we can't really use it just because of who added it. BOZ (talk) 21:54, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I agree that it is a shame. I also hate to see good material deleted. Situations like this are a bad dilemma and there's no good outcome. But my take on it is that our governance is weak enough as it is. In fact many people do evade bans I assume. But we have to hold the line that, when we do have proof of block evasion, that it can't stand. Otherwise bans -- and even blocks -- come to mean almost nothing. And, aside from persuasion, blocks and bans are practically the only tool we have to maintain some kind of reasonable order. Herostratus (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wil Wheaton photo discussion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in the consensus subthread of this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Nightscream. I would prefer to remain neutral on this one, because I protected the article due to the edit-warring, and because I may need to use my tools if anyone decides to cause further troubles once a consensus is reached. BOZ (talk) 19:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. Good idea. Nightscream (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In edits like this one, you seem to be linking George MacDonald to George MacDonald (game designer) which is a redirect to a list ... which doesn't have George MacDonald on it? I am not sure how that helps anyone. Can you explain? --GRuban (talk) 01:36, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, yes, I am going to expand that into an article in the near future and just wanted to set up the links ahead of time. I am also going to look at the articles that link to him to see if they have any sources I can use when building his article. BOZ (talk) 04:00, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Veterans Today

I am quite puzzled by your deletion of the userspace version of Veterans Today on March 24, on the grounds that "no work had been done on it." after a single month in user space. I see no provision of Deletion Policy that permits you that to be done by speedy ; surely that's a decision for MfD--and MfD normally allows for at least 6 months and more often a year. Did it rather mean you were deciding to delete by G10, considering it had been deleted from mainspace as G10? (Not that I think the G10 was at all valid, nor the previous deletion as A7. I intend to pursue that with the admins concerned.) DGG ( talk ) 04:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted because a user had asked me to restore it so he could work on it - he did no work on it, and there were concerns about BLP issues so I felt it was safest to return it to a deleted state. I have no objection to you or anyone else restoring it. BOZ (talk) 05:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By creating the new category - but saying that nothing could be put in it until subcategories were created, but saying that everything must be removed from Category:Pseudoscientists immediately, you have effectively blown up all the work put into categorization before letting it be rebuilt from the rubble.

It is almost impossible to find out what used to be in a category, so slow, careful guidance is needed if you wish to not throw out years of categorization work. You did not do this in your closing decision

A sensible way would have been either to leave the category in place during the recategorization, or keep a list of pages to be categorized. Now? Information has been lost that will have to be ereconstructed. Please behave in a more sensible manner in future. I agree recategorization is reasonable, but there was no reason whatsoever to do it in a manner that basically deleted the work needed to find pages tat should be categorized into the new tree. Hell, they could have been auto-moved into the container category temporarily with a deadline to recategorize. That the most destructive abnd stupid option - to blow the category up and start over - was taken shows a severe lack of judgement.

I don't think there was any malice here, but you need to be far more careful in future. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:44, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Category:Pseudoscientists

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Re: Cerebro

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Perhaps you can work this into the article:

Cerebro is a piece of psychotronics developed by Professor Xavier in order to magnify a person's innate telepathic powers and so allow him or her to locate and track mutants anywhere in the her to locate and track mutants anywhere in the world. Cerebro made its first appearance in 1964, in X-Men #7, where it appeared as a spiderlike, Kirby-esque system of machines and wires that transmitted extrasensory data into Professor Xavier's private desk in another room. There it was described as “a complex E.S.P. machine” (XM 160).

It would then make multiple central appearances, including one when the XMen were recreated in 1975 in GiantSize XMen #1;there Cerebro senses and locates a supermutant across the globe, which turns out to be a living island named Krakoa... By the time of the high-tech X-Men movies of the new millennium, Cerebro has morphed into a futuristic superroom into which Professor Xavier wheels over a bridge in order to don the helmet that would magnify his already extraordinary telepathic powers and project the results onto the skull-like internal walls of the room.

Jeffrey J. Kripal, Mutants and Mystics: Science Fiction, Superhero Comics, and the Paranormal (2011), p. 208.

[I]t is also worth remembering that Cerebro has sometimes accidentally picked up mutant aliens...

Jeffrey J. Kripal, Mutants and Mystics: Science Fiction, Superhero Comics, and the Paranormal (2011), p. 209.

Cheers! bd2412 T 23:19, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I will take a look into that tomorrow or over the weekend. BOZ (talk) 06:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Merridew

I didn't realize how many there were. Let me combine them. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:01, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You know how you sometimes start with one random thing you find here and you keep finding more problems and problems? I should know better by now. :-/ -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Alice Kurashige note

Thanks. I've been a bit busy and will get to the article when I have time.--Aichik (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, good luck with User:Aichik/Alice K. Kurashige. :) BOZ (talk) 19:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. I saw at User talk:Jclemens that you responded for them, and they are on a wikibreak, so I thought I would ask you here. Do you know what the page looked like when it was deleted? He is one of the highest-ranked show jumpers in the world...Zigzig20s (talk) 03:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was one sentence long, and completely unsourced. If you believe you can do something with it, I can restore it for you. BOZ (talk) 05:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for restoring the article

I'm referring to the Heaven Sent Gaming article in DRV currently. I (obviously) think my assessment of "overturn to 'no consensus' and move to mainspace" on that particular DRV to be correct, I wasn't involved in the original AfD, and the only other participants in that discussion at the moment are users that voted in the original AfD. I would like to know what another outside onlooker would think about that discussion? I'm new here, so maybe I'm reading it wrong, and I'm trying to be as neutral as possible on the topic. But with the swarm of AfD-ers I'm concerned about the conversation being dominated by obvious "endorsers", since the AfD had their desired outcome in the first place. Again, thank you for restoring the article, it was much appreciated. XiuBouLin (talk) 02:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]