User talk:Nyttend

"You have new messages" was designed for a purpose: letting people know you have replied to them. I do not watch your talk page and I will likely IGNORE your reply if it is not copied to my page, as I will not be aware that you replied! Thank you.

Redirect tagging

Hi Nyttend - your post on my talk was exceptionally offensive. I would have replied sooner but I have a terrible temper. In your post you don't tell me what redirect you refer to; nor do you give me any chance to defend myself but, worst of all - you actually threaten me that if I do not behave as you wish I might be sanctioned by more than yourself for - as you suggest - vandalism.

If you want to condemn me then please consider the worth of my entire input during the past month - I am in no way a vandal.Mark^Dask 03:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My complaint at AN/I

See WP:AN/I#Involved admin closing RM discussion and threatened opposers with sanctions re your involved close and inappropriate threat of sanctions. Dicklyon (talk) 01:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Farm to Market Road 289

I'd have let this backroad die. If its creator wanted it on Wikipedia so back they'd have found a source to at least verify its existence. The benefit of this article does not, in my opinion, outweigh the liability of yet another unsourced, unpatrolled article. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message back on my talk page. It was just a bit of frustration really. After 4 years of editing I have nearly 10,000 articles on my watchlist, and seem to be spending more and more time reverting unsourced edits. There's hardly any time to improve articles anymore. I stumbled into editing rap music articles about a year ago, and probably 95 percent of my edits there are reverts and vandals. I wonder when our collective ability to sustain the quality of the project will reach a tipping point. Anyway, all the best. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year +

I hope everything is going well and that you'll have a happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year.

I just ran into a fairly strange article Oley Hills site and thought of you. It doesn't seem to be to be a hoax. There was (is?) a very old Lutheran church nearby. But the article itself seems quite isolated. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Google maps only can suggest that it is north of, or just inside the northern border of, Oley Township, Pennsylvania, which is an NRHP HD, near Oley Furnace. The pix in our article are too neat. But I'll let my curiosity play out, without bothering you too much (unless you ask). Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've got a bit of a clue. "Isolated" in the sense of being an orphan, but also most of the refs and links were broken. Whoever started the article (I think I know) was something of an SPA on stone landscapes back in 2007. There's one academic article at [1] and I left a message for the author (though I have no idea whether he'll get it. See also [2].

Just guessing that this wouldn't quite meet notability requirements today, but in 2007 might have. I'll leave it alone and read the academic article, it is a quite interesting situation. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:26, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Nyttend!

Happy New Year!

Nyttend,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (talk) 07:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Request for Comments on use of certain files not copyrighted in the US

Hello,

There is an ongoing discussion about the use of files on Wikipedia that are not protected by copyright in the US because there is no copyright relations between the US and the country of publication. You commented in a 2012 discussion on the same topic that resulted in no consensus. You are invited to share your views in the ongoing discussion. AHeneen (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Superman

Hi, Nyttend. You made a good-faith edit at Superman, with a pretty funny edit-summary, actually, and I only reverted it since it's standard language at WikiProject Comics to say "fictional superhero" in the lead. This was the result of debate and consensus a few years ago, and if I remember correctly, it had to do with the larger thing of specifying "fictional character" in general. Anyway, you're a good editor and I wanted to take time and explain it since I didn't want to seem off-putting. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:33, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:JohnCD: Death real or hoax?

This has turned into a problem. I know you took the initiative in posting a memorial notice on JohnCD's talk page and in trying to confirm the message about his death. Please see the additional messages from the IP on my talk page and in the message section on JohnCD's talk page. I have been chastised and rebuked, justly if a bit strongly by a few, for being gullible and insensitive, for not confirming the message, etc. As I state in my longer message on the administrator noticeboard in response to the comments, I had a few reasons to think the message could be genuine and the followup messages now add some further reason for me to think that, even though that might add to my gullibility (good faith?). Then again, this may be the fake death news vandal that I did not know about. The followup messages have a little more information and seem sincere so that adds to my confusion, I guess. Also, the message was not posted to my talk page until the day John said he would likely return to editing. I saw that before I posted the message, thinking that a sincere message would not have preceded that date and that a hoax would not have much time to take effect after it. On the noticeboard, User:Someguy1221 stated he could not confirm a name as stated in the messages, presumably not being able to connect it to the account. So that seems to point to me being wrong. I have just realized that perhaps the fact these messages were posted on my talk page and not initially on JohnCD's talk page (though there are messages from the IP there now) might have raised some doubt.

I am leaving this message because you posted a notice saying you would try to confirm the news about John. I want to be sure you are caught up with the various further messages, the ones from the IP at least, and the doubt that has been raised. If you can confirm the news, please let me know. Although I won't be online much in the next few days, I would like to clear this up. I suppose we wlll be able to confirm this one way or the other within the next few days or weeks as a matter of course but I am somewhat disheartened by my seeming gullibility and waste of people's time. I have embarrassed and diminished myself by not handling this more prudently even if it is true but especially if it is not. At this point I am not sure what to believe. None of that is very important, of course, if the best resolution, that John in fact is alive and well, is the real story.

I thank you for crediting me with good faith by your actions with respect to this. Especially if this was a false report, but even if not, I sincerely apologize for any embarrassment or waste of time I may have caused you. I can affirm that was unintentional and inadvertent. It was only in an effort to do a good deed and provide what I thought was a needed notice. Regardless, it seems I should have handled this differently and better and it seems to have gone wrong whatever the truth turns out to be. Donner60 (talk) 13:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a message and further reply that I just received from the IP.

I understand from the guidelines for the Deceased Wikipedians page, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/Guidelines that there is a procedure called checkuser by which family reports may be verified. Perhaps someone qualified to conduct this could do so, while those not so qualified could bide their time before making accusations of ill faith. Thank you. 92.24.244.137 (talk) 13:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I cannot do that myself but will pass it along to an administrator. Then I will be offline for most or all of the next two or three days. Donner60 (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I checked in to see the status of the matter. User:Keri has left a message on my talk page and the administrators' noticeboard confirming the original report of JohnCD's death. The noticeboard thread on this has been closed. I would have preferred to have been wrong but this seems to bring the matter to a definite end. Thanks for your work on and interest in this. I suppose no further apology is necessary under those circumstances, except for any waste of time my further post here which I do regret. Donner60 (talk) 07:06, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I received an e-mail from Mrs. Deas in which she thanks you for your thoughts about about John. It was sent a few weeks ago but I have not looked at the account for some time. I use it only for Wikipedia and rarely send or receive e-mail on it, and usually some talk page notice is also used by me or a sender as an alert, which is why this message has been delayed. Best wishes. Donner60 (talk) 04:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Waterside places categories

Hi Nyttend

At 02:33, 8 January 2017 I lodged an objection [3] to your proposed speedy renaming of >200 waterside places categories.

Yet at 02:50, you went ahead and placed them all for processing at WP:CFD/W, in this edit [4].

That was not a good thing to do, particularly since you required your admin privileges to perform this action and you are WP:INVOLVED. Are you going to revert promptly, or will I do it? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As I noted at CFDS, this decision was not open to opposition: I was merely following someone else's instructions in closing the CFD, and once I figured out how to use the working page, I listed the categories there to avoid the unnecessary wait. It's not WP:INVOLVED to do what another admin tells you to do. If you insist on using your administrative rights to impose your preferred decision in place of the CFD result, sanctions will be requested immediately: a block, for creating a large number of categories in defiance of a CFD result, and a desysop, for using your administrative rights unilaterally to overturn an XFD decision. Of course, if you want to start a new CFD, or if you want to go the DRV route, I'll participate in the discussion and likely oppose anything that disagrees with this CFD's result, but I'll have no grounds to complain about abuse of tools. Nyttend (talk) 20:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, wow. that's fairly aggressively unrepentant and hostile response. Nonetheless, I will take the bait, and revert the moves.

The categories were not tagged for speedy, and did not wait the requisite 48 hours before you moved them, from the CFD/S page to CFD/W. Nor were they tagged for CFD, so there was no mandate for a mass move. I will certainly challenge the mandate of any CFD closer to apply the decision to categories neither listed nor tagged for that discussion, but regardless of that the closer's instruction[5] was tonominate the relevant sub-cats for speedy renaming. Note that word "nominate", because it is not what you did. You did not validly nominate the categs for CFD/S, you did not follow CFD/s procedures clearly set out at the top of the page:

You listed the categories at CFD/S, but did not validly nominate them for CFD/S, because you didn't tag them
Having listed (but not tagged) them, you simply ignored an objection at CFD/S, having somehow decided that you had a right unilaterally overrule any objections -- despite there being no such exemption at CFD
Having ignored the objection, you then proceeded to implement the moves ~~barely 30~~only 46 minutes after listing them, despite the clear instructions at WP:CFD/S that nominations must remain listed for 48 hours
And you did all of this in respect of a CFD nomination which you yourself had made, so you were certainly WP:INVOLVED

That's a total of 4 ways in which you were out of order here. Regardless of what anyone things of the closer's decision, the closer did not instruct you to bypass CFD/S as you did.

I will proceed with reverting these moves, and you are of course free to make a complaint to [[WP:ANI] or wherever. But given what I have set out above, beware of WP:BOOMERANG. I suggest that you would be much better advised to take a deep breath and try again to do this properly ... to ensure that 200 categories are out moved out-of-process. But it's your choice. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, as you made the effort to start this nomination on Dec 8 and at WP:CFDS, would you still be willing to re-tag them all and list them in a full CFD for two-way discussion? I recognise that you may feel you have had enough of this topic right now. – Fayenatic London 15:02, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi Nyttend, I saw you're active at ANI. This is a quick RfC type question. If I made a typo in my RfC here by saying in one of the choice questions "fourth person. . ." instead of "fifth person," can I strike it out and correct it? SW3 5DL (talk) 01:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your Graphics Lab request

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Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#BrownHairedGirl_and_categories

Just a head's up: The AN/I thread has been re-opened, as the arbitration case is very likely to be declined. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Official Records

Did I create the article with ACW in the title? Eleven and a half years ago? Can't believe someone hadn't fixed that until today. One of my first new pages; I remember asking Hal to look over my shoulder and we both missed the most important thing. Thanks! BusterD (talk) 14:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BrownHairedGirl and categories arbitration case request declined

Hi Nyttend. The Arbitration Committee has declined the BrownHairedGirl and categories arbitration case request, which you were listed as a party to. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 07:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Updates required to Mansoor IJAZ article

@Nyttend: Dear Sir, my mother passed away on January 8, 2017 in Los Altos Hills, CA from complications tied to renal failure and was laid to rest on January 13, 2017 in Alum Ridge, VA. A formal obituary is under consideration as a news item at a major U.S. newspaper but in the interim, I thought I'd ask if you might be kind enough to make two updates to WP Article Mansoor Ijaz -- the first would be to update the bio box, adding (1936-2017) after my mother's name; the second would be in the Personal Life section at His mother, Dr. Lubna Razia Ijaz (January 27, 1936— January 8, 2017), was

Similarly, you may wish to check WP Article Mujaddid Ahmed Ijaz to see if it needs some updating as well.

Finally, I'd like to propose a new WP Article titled Lubna Razia Ijaz to document and chronicle some of the important facets of my mother's life. As was done with my father's article, perhaps I can create the initial draft in my sandbox and then let you and other editors take it through the paces to refine it and insure it is properly referenced.

Your assistance is appreciated. Thank you. Mansoor Ijaz (talk) 23:58, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Files for discussion

Is your comment at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 January 25#File:National Cycling Centre logo.png at the right place? The logo has no article nor is it ever nominated for discussion before. The Banner talk 17:04, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The PC2 RFC at WP:VPR

Do you know of any admin, or any group of non-admins, expressing a preference for ever using PC2 within, say, the last year, apart from the related discussion at WP:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016? Normally, of course, the voting would suggest a snow-close without further discussion, but it's impossible to know ahead of time what the WMF's response will be, so it's a good idea to be clear with them about the state of discussions on the topic. My general sense has been that PC2 discussion has died down in the wake of the two new alternatives, the edit filter and extended-confirmed protection, but I admit I haven't been keeping up. - Dank (push to talk) 19:36, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ViceCity343 sock puppetry

hu:User talk:Pallerti#HALOTTAK VAGYTOK MINDANNYIAN!!!!!!

Thanks, I learned long ago in English, but unfortunately I use little (in my environment the German language more preferred), thanks for your help and information, yes they belong together (I'm sysop, and checkuser on huwiki, I completed the verification): hu:Category:ViceCity343 zoknibábjai. --Pallerti (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017

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Guideline and policy news

A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
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Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news

When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration

The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Biyala's sati dadi or bajawa ki sati dadi

this should be deleted. Author has repeatedly reverted proddong saying that "The page has been created only for providing information to the public at large regarding our kuldevi(family goddess).I dont feel that this article is wanting in any manner whatsoever.And as for the reference part,it has not been referred from any source" (emphasis mine). 103.6.159.77 (talk) 15:01, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't make the whole thing a hoax. You should take it to a discussion where people can have a chance to explain why it should or should not be deleted. If you go that route, please let me know — you are unable to create the discussion page (since you don't have an account), but if you write up the rationale for deletion, I'll create the page with what you've written. Nyttend (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On the WMF Resolution and NFC

I had to dig a bit, but at the time that the WMF passed the resolution in March 2007, WP:NFC served as the main EDP, but around May that year, there was this discussion [6] to move the Fair Use guidelines to WP:NFCC and transclude it into NFC. So it's just an issue of what the state of the resolution at the time of its passage. The NFCC policy is the EDP (policy), NFC serves at the guideline to explain it. --MASEM (t) 01:19, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

King and Queen County

Happy to be of help. I was down at W&M for my tenth reunion in the fall, and came back through King and Queen and a couple of the neighboring counties. (Hit West Point, too, and got some illustrations there.) I have some dusk-time photos of the courthouse in Warsaw to upload, and a few others as well from a couple of sites. (Got a nice panorama of the King and Queen County Courthouse, actually.) I wanted to do more on the trip, but ultimately didn't have nearly the kind of time I wanted. I may be getting back that way in April, in which case I've got a list of things I want to try and photograph.

I know what you mean about placeholders - some of the stuff I took in Warren County over the summer definitely qualified. Good to see some of those being replaced by decent-quality images.

You down in the Hampton Roads or Richmond area, by chance? I'm just outside of DC. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:13, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was out that way a few months back. Lovely country - we stopped off at Red Hill on the way home. I quite recommend it if you've not been. (Got a few pictures in Buchanan, too, and Natural Bridge.)

I have to say, having attempted some photography in Maryland...Virginia, for all its frustrations, is significantly better, in my experience. Check out National Register of Historic Places listings in Rappahannock County, Virginia - I managed to get something for each when I was out there in May, even if it's a placeholder. I tried something similar in Charles County, Maryland a couple of months later...it went significantly worse.

Talking of laws, I've been meaning to suggest to my delegate and state senator that they consider introducing a bill that would make all works of the Commonwealth government public domain, similar to what exists in Florida right now. That would have the advantage, I'd hope, of making anything produced by the DHR available for use. But I agree...the best bet is to get either landowners or local historical societies involved. I'd hoped that we'd have done better at that by now, to be honest... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:20, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Commas

Hello, I am going through the community edits. There are not a lot of those. A lot of the unincorporated community pages don't have sections like the towns, cities, and villages. However, some do, and I am working on those. Thank you for the heads-up. Red Director (talk) 17:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have new messages at the Graphics Lab

You have new messages at the Graphics Lab. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have new messages at the Graphics Lab. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 2017

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Hall and parlor house. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Skagway Borough, Alaska

Template:Skagway Borough, Alaska has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:55, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of un-redirected pages to Special:NewPages and Special:NewPagesFeed

I'm contacting you because you participated in this proposal discussion. While the proposal was approved, it has not received developer action. The request is now under consideration as part of the 2017 Developer Wishlist, with voting open through the end of day on Tuesday (23:59 UTC). The latter link describes the voting process, if you are interested. —swpb^T 18:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bot to move files to Commons

Please see Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Bot_to_move_files_to_Commons. Since you are an admin both her and at Commons, I think you may be well-versed with the possible issues and technicalities. 103.6.159.65 (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]