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Suggestions

I want to submit a few suggestions for BTS Wiki page:

1. Kindly add this recent event: The Empire State Building was turned purple for five minutes every hour from sunset to mark the occasion for BTS and ARMYs. [1]

2. Mention that BTS is also the "first non-English Act" to enter the Top 10 of the IFPI’s Global Recording Artists of the Year Chart in 2018 (it is written in the Naver article). [2]

3. If it is possible, kindly add the World Economic Forum's article about BTS and globalization in the "Impact section". [3]

Facts Spiller (talk) 09:24, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.eonline.com/ap/news/1043444/the-empire-state-building-turned-purple-in-honour-of-bts
  2. ^ https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=609&aid=0000067237
  3. ^ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/12/here-s-what-a-korean-boy-band-can-teach-us-about-globalization/
Please don't. The article is already filled with way too much trivia. We do not need to record every thing piece of marketing they do. Ashmoo (talk) 13:37, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think that the page has too much unnecessary information, reporting on every single thing they do. Nothing inherently bad but adding more is just unnecessary, the Wikipedia page isn't a fan page, one or two example is sufficient, there doesn't need to be 10 different examples all showcasing the same point 

SuperZecton (talk) 11:33, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think that the page has too much unnecessary information, reporting on every single thing they do. Nothing inherently bad but adding more is just unnecessary, the Wikipedia page isn't a fan page, one or two example is sufficient, there doesn't need to be 10 different examples all showcasing the same point 

SuperZecton (talk) 11:34, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Musical inspirations

The part listing the artists BTS use for inspiration seems a bit odd to me. Why list Charlie Puth and Post Malone, who are artists contemporary to BTS, when they aren't really as relevant as, say, Eminem or Seo Taiji's influence on them? It also seems like there's a disproportionate amount of Western artists vs Korean artists, which doesn't help convey the impact their own cultural roots have on their music. The inspirations listed also seem very rapline centric. I have a few sources about singers that the vocal line have noted as inspirations, especially Jungkook, who's been incredibly vocal about singers like IU or G-Dragon being some of the main reasons he even chose to pursue singing as a career. Just a suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agustdream (talk • contribs) 23:54, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inspirations for individual members are listed in their respective articles. The only group I can remember the whole group cited as an influnce, would be Big Bang.--Lirim | Talk 23:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It seems a bit odd to me as well, I'll do some research. Also, in the Impact and influence section, I noticed that some artists cites only one member of BTS as their role model, therefore I think they should be removed. The ones in question are: The Boyz' Younghoon and Hwall (V), SF9's Zuho (Suga), Golden Child's Jaehyun (V), Park Ji-hoon (V), and Hyeongseop X Euiwoong (Jungkook). --Chiyako92 14:47, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
I found Big Bang and Shinhwa. --Chiyako92 15:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
That source for Shinhwa to me seems to be more Jungkook's personal influence than an influence for BTS as a whole. As for BigBang, BTS have mentioned them in one or two interviews back when they were really young yes, I mean that article you referenced is from 2013. And while you might find a few other mentions after that, they've never really regularly mentioned them as being like a defining influence on them, but mostly spoke of them as most hoobae groups would of sunbae artists like BB at the time. The members have more often mentioned western hip-hop artists as their influences so to me what's listed right now is more accurate. I mean, honestly, when is the last time anyone (aside from Jungkook back in 2016 when he went on that singing show and did GD's song) in BTS mentioned BB as an artist that influences them? I think it would be outdated to use these particular older groups as defining influences on them when it's very clear to see from the majority of their interviews that their answers would be very different to that. They mention epik high, seo tai ji, eminem, drake, charlie puth etc far more regularly. Though if you want to split hairs, in the interviews when asked about influences, individual members usually throw out names of artists they personally like and the others agree or offer up their own likes. So make of that what you will. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 16:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2019

It's bang tang boys not, bang tan boys

2604:6000:CA45:F00:3C56:7252:1B68:6F04 (talk) 04:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]


 Not done: this isn’t correct. 방탄 is bangtan. Bangtang would be 방탕. Alex (talk) 04:52, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019

You guys need to write that Kim Seokjin(he's worldwide handsome) is going to enlist in the military Stanchangbin (talk) 10:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 14:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2020

Hi they weren't formed in 2013 - Kim Namjoon (Rm) Yoongi (Suga) joined at the same time closely followed by the others. They spend time as trainees before debuting in 2013. Please can this be edited to the correct information BangSpring20 (talk) 13:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Also, reliable sources should be provided for any claims made. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi in the introduction at the top of the page it shows that "bts were formed in 2013" this is incorrect, they were formed in 2010 - so am requesting this is changed to formed in 2010. They actually debuted in 2013, they have stated this in multiple interviews and vlives which i can provide when i get home if needed. Here is also two articles which give such information.

https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/bts-renews-contract-with-bighit-for-7-more-years.html

https://stylecaster.com/how-bts-members-discovered/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BangSpring20 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi in the introduction at the top of the page it shows that "bts were formed in 2013" this is incorrect, they were formed in 2010 - so am requesting this is changed to formed in 2010. They actually debuted in 2013, they have stated this in multiple interviews and vlives which i can provide when i get home if needed. Here is also two articles which give such information.

https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/bts-renews-contract-with-bighit-for-7-more-years.html

https://stylecaster.com/how-bts-members-discovered/ 

BangSpring20 (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eggishorn: Hi. The formation year mentioned in the Entertainment Tonight article here is 2010 and 2011, ultimately finalized in 2012. Pinging frequent other Kpop editors Chiyako92, Alexanderlee, Snowflake91, Carlobunnie, Lirim.Z, Hahahey568, Kleool to particpate and reach a consensus. Thanks.Ashleyyoursmile (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just change the lead statement to say “began its formation in 2010” which is more correct? 2013 would only make sense if it says that’s when they debuted, not when they were formed. The group as we know it was only formed as early as 2012, as that’s when Jimin passed his audition. Alex (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

Hey guys,

I asked for an edit to be made as there was some incorrect information on it but it still hasn’t been changed wonder if someone could look into it for me.

Bts weren’t formed in 2013 they were formed in 2010 they debuted in 2013.

Thanks BangSpring20 (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BangSpring20: I've opened the request again. You might notice that the 'answered=' parameter was changed to 'yes' when someone responded to it. You responded again, but because the 'answered' parameter was still 'yes' it immediately looks like it has been responded to and possibly worked out. I've changed this to 'no', so perhaps someone who can help will be along soon. I do notice that the article history states they started their formation in 2010, with their final line-up set in 2012, though I don't know how this would affect things. Alex (talk) 16:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks sorry I’m still learning about Wikipedia lol...hopefully someone can look into it soon BangSpring20 (talk) 16:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologise, we're all beginners and learning at some point!:) Alex (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

bts has beat the beatles in many awards.

i haven't seen this said on the page but bts beat the beatles in sales. here is my evidence: https://mnews.joins.com/article/23447584 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotpocketrolls (talk • contribs) 17:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTS

Do you think some information should be added about each individual member of BTS?LNeiswonger224 (talk) 03:45, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, this article is about the group. Information about each member is on their own article. Alex (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 February 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 15:16, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


BTS (band) → BTS (group) – Per WP:BANDDAB: Use "(group)" when the musical ensemble members do not perform by playing musical instruments, the members are mainly vocalists, and other people perform by playing musical instruments. BTS is a boy band which consists of 4 singers and 3 rappers; none of the members perform any musical instruments. They are more comparable to a girl group than a band (rock and pop). feminist (talk) 07:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support - There was a reasonable consensus back in 2008 to do this for Kpop girl groups. Talk:4L_(group)#Requested_move_29_November_2018. But when applied to Kpop boy bands, there was no concensus. Talk:BTS_(band)/Archive_2#Requested_move_8_December_2018. So again, I support applying WP:BANDDAB consistently here. Evaders99 (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Bts genre

I already make a talk but I don't see it sorry, I wanted to correc myself, the boys don't consider themselves as belonging to kpop and kpop isn't an genre so you should delete the kpop in the genre. Furthermore as regards to the grammy interview, korean newspapers are naming " Genre Bts" the new genre the boys talked about so we coud put it " " in the genre until further precision. 💜 Sophiebbbbbbbbbb (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed edit to 2020 section

@Carlobunnie: @Ashleyyoursmile: @Snowflake91: Pinging you all as some of the more frequent editors of the page. The current 2020 section has a lot of extraneous information that does not necessarily need to be on this page and can be relegated to the album-specific pages (e.g., details about the comeback trailers, extensive details on the album preorders, certifications for older singles/albums). I have made an attempt to rewrite that section to what I feel is most relevant and would like your thoughts before making the change.

2020: Map of the Soul: 7 and second stadium world tour

In January 2020, BTS released "Black Swan" along with a choreography art film performed by Slovenian-based MN Dance Company as the first single from their fourth Korean-language studio album, Map of the Soul: 7.[1][2] The song debuted at number 57 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 46 on the UK Official Singles Chart.[3][4] Following the single's release, BTS performed alongside Lil Nas X, Billy Ray Cyrus, Diplo, and more in a special segment at the 62nd Annual Grammy Awards, making BTS the first Korean act to perform at the Grammy's.[5][6][7]

Map of the Soul: 7 was released in conjunction with its lead single "On" on February 21 to universal acclaim.[8] According to album distributor Dreamus, the stock pre-orders of the album reached a record-breaking 4.02 million, surpassing their previous record of 2.68 million with Map of the Soul: Persona.[9] In support of Map of the Soul series, BTS will embark on their fourth worldwide concert tour and second stadium tour, Map of the Soul Tour starting April 11 in Seoul, South Korea.[10]

References

  1. ^ Strauss, Matthew (January 17, 2020). "Listen to BTS' New Song "Black Swan"". Pitchfork. Retrieved January 18, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ Zemler, Emily (January 17, 2020). "Watch BTS' Dance-Inspired Art Film For New Single 'Black Swan'". Rolling Stone. Retrieved January 18, 2020.
  3. ^ Kim, Ye-na (January 29, 2020). 방탄소년단 ‘Black Swan’, 전 세계 주요 차트 진입 ‘글로벌 인기 증명’ [BTS 'Black Swan' enters the world's major charts]. Exsport News (in Korean). Retrieved January 29, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  4. ^ Park, Seo Hyun (January 29, 2020). 방탄소년단 'Black Swan', 美빌보드 핫100 57위‥전 세계 주요 차트 돌풍(공식) [Bulletproof Boy Scouts' 'Black Swan' ranked # 57 on the Billboard Hot 100]. Herald POP (in Korean). Retrieved January 29, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ "2020 GRAMMYs: Lil Nas X, BTS & More To Perform". GRAMMY.com. January 23, 2020. Retrieved January 23, 2020.
  6. ^ Kim, Hyo-jeong (January 24, 2020). "방탄소년단, 그래미 어워즈서 공연…한국 가수 최초" [BTS, Grammy Awards Performance First Korean singer]. Yonhap News Agency (in Korean). Retrieved January 24, 2020.
  7. ^ Bruner, Raisa (January 27, 2020). "BTS Joined Lil Nas X for Their First Grammys Performance". TIME. Retrieved January 27, 2020.
  8. ^ "Map of the Soul: 7 by BTS". Metacritic. Retrieved February 23, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  9. ^ "'컴백 D-3' 방탄소년단 새 역사 썼다…선주문 402만 돌파 '역대최다'[공식]". n.news.naver.com (in Korean). Retrieved 2020-02-18.
  10. ^ Herman, Tamar (January 21, 2020). "BTS Announce 'Map of the Soul' Tour Dates". Billboard. Retrieved January 22, 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
Agree, and support your changes. Teasers/trailers etc. Serve far better purpose being on the album article rather than piling it all into this article as well. Noting that the album contains twenty songs, for example, certainly isn’t necessary in this article. Alex (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I support it as well. Also, if we need an additional source about the universal acclaim, Osen wrote an article about the positive reviews by Western medias. --Chiyako92 10:21, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2020

genre de musique : BTSpop, in a recent interview of BTS the members of the group said that BTS music is not « Kpop » but « BTSpop », they don’t want to be in a precise genre. 90.34.203.83 (talk) 16:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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