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undid revision
i don't like you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram muhammed singh silva (talk • contribs) 16:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- My goodness. Such harshness on short acquaintance. I'm sure once you get to know me better you will actually detest me. Somany people do. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 16:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- (The above in my Joachim Steuben voice. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC))
- Blocked. Take this as a compliment, DFO. – bradv🍁 16:52, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'm shocked. Cool thing is, I've no idea what they were on about. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 16:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Well done
Congratulations on being a nicer person than I am. You got in with a block for 36 31 hours on Deborahannryanisgreat seconds before I was going to impose an indef block, hateful person that I am. JBW (talk) 16:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Well, the nicer part is debatable. Some people on this talk page seem to dislike me. At any rate, did not want to bitethenewbie. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 16:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I did notice in the section above that someone wasn't altogether keen on you. And apparently someone else thought you didn't bite that person hard enough. JBW (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'm OK with most of the vandalism that comes my way. Shows I'm doing my job. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 17:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, but I don't have/won't ever have Magic Glasses to see past this illusion. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 17:03, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I did notice in the section above that someone wasn't altogether keen on you. And apparently someone else thought you didn't bite that person hard enough. JBW (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Dear Deepfriedokra, I would like to write the article about BrickLink, but can't due to the protection level (insufficient edits). It seems to be protected, because the company isn't relevant enough. However, I disagree with this since the website has over 1 million users and has been aquired by LEGO themselves.[1] There is also already a French and a Dutch article about the website. Best regards, Mikalagrand (talk) 17:17, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Mikalagrand: Sorry, no. Due to the amount of disruption and repeated deletions, a new page on this subject will need to be drafted via WP:AfC, reviewed by them, and approved by them. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 17:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, I've submitted the article for review. If you would like to read it, you can find it here. Mikalagrand (talk) 20:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
@Mikalagrand: Oh, I'm much to tough on notability and sourcing. Better to let the regular reviewers review it. --Deepfriedokra (talk)
- Others also seem to be pretty harsh, the article didn't pass. Mikalagrand (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Errm...
I see that your "semi-retired" notice at the top of this page says you are "no longer very active on Wikipedia". I see that your edit counter says that your average rate of editing so far this year is higher than all but two of the other 14 years for which your account has existed, and that the two that are higher than this year are the most recent two past years. Are you quite sure that "no longer very active" is absolutely right? JBW (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- @JBW: been trying to stop at 150 edits/week. Was up to ~3000/month for a while. I am a Wikiholic . . . Besides, I just put that up after the latest nastigram from an IP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, my mom was really sick off and on from 2010 to 2014. After that, it was a while before I succumbed to the old, old longing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:23, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
@JBW:@Deepfriedokra:Can I join this dicussion as it will be good for my experience. I have multiple questions for you both please do not say "Go to Teahouse" I do not want to go there. Tylertoney Dude perfect (talk) 09:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
UTRS appeal question
Howdy hello DFO! When you decline appeals on UTRS, I see that you often copy them over on-wiki as well. Is there a fancy tool or script to do that, or do you do that manually? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- @CaptainEek: Don't I wish. And UTRS-bot is hors de combat. I copy the decline message, open the user talk from the ticket, paste the message, go back and get the URL. Busy, but it helps me keep track. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, Alas, as I feared. Well thanks for the input, guess I'll see about poking the maintainers of UTRS bot... CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:17, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
About User talk:Gautamsinghseo
Sorry about that, but I really can't remember why I forgot the talk-page message in 2010. I have lifted the editing restriction concerning their talk-page. Lectonar (talk) 06:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Extraordinary AfD comment
Please see this diff. I considered ANI, but I also thought that asking an admin I had never knowingly interacted with before to take a look would be more useful. Even if the editor disagrees with the nomination that is, at best, an unusual manner of expression. Fiddle Faddle 07:02, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: What does that even mean? At the one level, it bears no weight in a deletion discussion. At the other, it's a personal attack. They have made some constructive edits. You might want the to clarify their meaning. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:15, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- The clarification is perhaps arcane, and requires either knowledge or research. Santorum is a neologism created by Dan Savage to degrade Rick Santorum, quite successful it is way, though also revolting. Felching is taking that concept one step further. As an out gay man I interpret this as an anti-gay slur (I have a banner on my user page expressing my sexuality). Equally I may be being over sensitive. Yet the rational part of me counters the oversensitivity.
- Had this been placed on my own talk page I would have commented, and left it present. In a deletion discussion I think it inappropriate for me either to comment or revert it. There I propose to let it stand unless anyone else chooses to disagree. I feel that any interaction with this editor by me would be... unwise.
- Certainly, though, it has no relevance in a deletion discussion, which is about whether an article conforms to policy. Fiddle Faddle 07:39, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- If it's a slur it will go to ANI eventually. I did warn him about incivility. Think I'll d redact that. Has not yet been receptive to feedback. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Tps, they're up to no good and that's beyond the pale. ——Serial # 07:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Thank you. I am content with whatever route you have chosen. You have done exactly as I hoped, which is used other eyes than mine on it. I'm old enough and ugly enough to shake slurs off. Others might not be so thick skinned. Fiddle Faddle 07:49, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- If it's a slur it will go to ANI eventually. I did warn him about incivility. Think I'll d redact that. Has not yet been receptive to feedback. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Legerrich (talk · contribs) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Look at the signature here (click on the username and talk page link). My !vote (because I don't get a vote): save a couple kilobytes at ANI and indef the troll now. Levivich [dubious – discuss] 02:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Template:YoLevivich Glug. Gah Gasp. Coffee! Acj! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
@Levivich: mangled ping who could blame me. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:28, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:51, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- LOL thanks. Your hands must've still been shaking while trying to ping ;-) Levivich [dubious – discuss] 20:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Well, folk, that was some interesting detective work. And such a polite block message! Fiddle Faddle 20:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Right! I was thinking the same thing. DFO's one of the most polite admins. If I were an admin, my block notice would be like:
Administrator note You have been judged and found lacking. Levivich [dubious – discuss] 20:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Well, folk, that was some interesting detective work. And such a polite block message! Fiddle Faddle 20:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
A heads-up
I initiated a discussion at WPANI about revdels of edits related to the killing of George Floyd. You are one of the administrators who made revdels based on BLP, connected to that set of topics.
Were some of those revdels to protect the privacy of what I referred to as the NEW NAME in the WPANI discussion?
Anyhow, even though I didn't explicitly mention you, at WPANI, I am giving you a headsup of that discussion. Geo Swan (talk) 23:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- I already responded at Special:permalink/963962842#Teachable moments. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Link to related discussion at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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Personal attacks
Fair enough, I just think it's better to keep a record of the way in which people commit metaphorical online suicide. – PeeJay 20:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- No, they are the only one keeping score, and removing their little trophy changes nothing in so far as their block is concerned. As someone who enjoys trolling telephone solicitors, I can tell you how savory each response is. And each trophy --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm just going by what User:Cabayi suggested with regard to User:Riku maina, since User:Goofdawg was adding content that was practically identical to that which Riku maina had been adding until recently. – PeeJay 15:28, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- AGF sock is an opportunity for a user to explain themselves, before they get blocked. It's also a precursor to SPI. That canary is already out of the cage and in the cat's belly. Riku has not edited since 6/23. MIght be forth reporting at SPI. Might be too stale for a checkuser. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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Mind blocking
Mind blocking this user Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 23:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- My mind's been blocked for weeks. Oh.
Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:15, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Speedy deletion nomination of Genuine Orthodox Church of America
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A tag has been placed on Genuine Orthodox Church of America requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DannyS712 (talk) 12:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
FreshlyBakedPie
user:FreshlyBakedPie is abusing her talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
thanks
Thank you for lifting the block.Clash Jester (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Lou - I'm tellin' ya ...
Who's on first .... loved it. Not many would know that ref these days. Even being old enough, it took me a second to actually read the edit ... laughed my butt off. TY for that. :-) — Ched (talk)
- Folks, I got a million of 'em. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
RevDelete note
Hey Deepfriedokra, I saw you deleted the edit summary for my UAA request. You might want to revdelete the edit summary and username for this edit, along with my edit summary here. Thanks in advance! -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- @LuK3: Thanks, missed that in their contribs. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
adding content
So you took my mdorganics contributions out, then how do I add missing content that will benefit the user, since I am the president of my company and an authority on cbd oil, how is it a conflict to have my webpage as a citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkRoga (talk • contribs) 04:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has little if any interest in what company representatives say about a subject. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." Please read and heed WP:COI andWP:PAID --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Sigh
That went as expected. Oh well, we’ll see what he says in his actual appeal, but yeah, doesn’t look like much has changed. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:30, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- He would not address the issues that led to his block in the UTRS appeal. He does not seem to want to look at those issues.Reacts badly to any mention for whatever reason. I link to ANI in unblock appeals to save others the trouble of looking. And boy, there's a lot to look through. He made no mention of the prior unblock conditions in the UTRS ticket. I sifted those out of that horrendous talk page. I will not respond to this reply or post further to his talk page as I don't want to provoke a further explosive rant. I do not think he will settle down and actually look at the reasons and take care of them. (two sighs) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:47, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
School block
Hi. I only just saw this, by accident. Nobody seems to have notified me during the discussion. Just want to say - if anyone feels I've changed your block unnecessarily, I'm sorry, but I treat every case on its merits, and I usually do the block myself if I'm the one who's deleted the article. It often seems to be the case that I delete an article, check out the user's other edits, block them, then go to inform the user only to find they have already been blocked by someone else. I suppose this must mean that other people do the block first and then delete the article. I'm not sure what everyone else was getting so worked up about. Deb (talk) 08:40, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm working on my SPAMU threshold due to some activism at WP:UAA where some admins have been declining reports I (and others) would have acted on. Interestingly, the activists have been declining and then another admin has been coming behind them and blocking anyway. There is a discrepancy between user name policy and blocking policy, and there seems to be some intractability involved. Not naming names 'cause I don't want to upset anyone who might have strong feelings on the disagreement. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Recently on a Zoom get-together, another admin mentioned an increase in spam during lockdown and I was not convinced at the time. However, within the last few weeks it seems to be rising very noticeably, so I'm tending to take a hard line. Deb (talk) 14:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Problematic editor
Hi Deepfriedokra. 2 weeks ago today you responded to my ANI report regarding Jeremykuhl's repeated unsourced edits by leaving him a message on his talk page reminding him about the importance of referencing. Clearly the final warnings, report to ANI and personal requests from admin to refrain are not working. Besides the unsourced edits there is also the issue of zero communication from their side, something required to edit here. Please could I trouble you to take a look again. Robvanvee 10:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help Deepfriedokra. Robvanvee 11:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Username issue
[2]. Look at his contributions.[3] BLP violations, etc. I don't think he's going to be anything but a pain and am tempted to block. Doug Weller talk 13:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: COuldn't nail down a clear username violation, though I doubt will be constructive. ROPE til declares self. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Query
Hey, You unblocked this user per this UTRS ticket. Can you confirm that this ticket is actually related to the user in question? Thanks. ~ Nahid Talk 15:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- @NahidSultan: Which user? There is something wrong with the old UTRS ticket links. They go to the wrong users. The person that UTRS ticket seems to relate to is still blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk)
- https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/appeal/30502 shows declined by @Kuru: --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- I apparently unblocked the user in question, but , as I say, there is something wrong with the UTRS database from that time. When I search by name, I get a legacy UTRS ticket from before. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- That's unfortunate. Judging by the block log and legacy UTRS ticket related to it, is it possible that the account was unblocked by mistake? ~ Nahid Talk 17:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- I apparently unblocked the user in question, but , as I say, there is something wrong with the UTRS database from that time. When I search by name, I get a legacy UTRS ticket from before. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:40, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/appeal/30502 shows declined by @Kuru: --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
No, probably not --but as things sit, it's impossible for me to figure it out. I need to see the user's actual UTRS ticket. They'd have needed to make a pretty convincing argument, and I'd have sought feedback from blocking/reviewing admins. I see they edited sporadically after that, and then stopped. I'll look at I think it was Yamla's talk to see if that sheds any light. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:08, 17 July 2020 (UTC) This is very frustrating. I click on a UTRS link about one person and get someone else. I don't see a mention of this user on Yamla's page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:08, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
requests unblock on utrs. Has been editing constructively elsewhere. Has sworn off spam. Inclined to unblock. Consulting with blocking admins. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 23:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC) Hi User talk:Deepfriedokra. The above link does not work. However if you think they deserve some rope I have no objections. Just please emphasize to them that this is likely their last chance. They have a formidable block log. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
--Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
@NahidSultan: Is there problem I should know about? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Special:CentralAuth/ShahadatHossain looking at his global contribs, especially bn.wiki. I guess that persuaded me to ask Ad Orientem for permission to unblock. Wish I could see the ticket. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Discussions are taking place in multiple venues (e.x on bnwiki) about their cross-wiki COI/UPE using multiple accounts. Evidence is pretty much straightforward that is why we needed to know the circumstances about their unblock request. Thanks for looking into it. ~ Nahid Talk 12:24, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Request for attention regarding certain user accounts
Hello. I am unfamiliar on the complicated process and lengthy steps on reporting users to be blocked.
User:Mayor Vico Sotto appears to be impersonating Vico Sotto, mayor of Pasig. Additionally, another account User:The Great Honcho is similar to Mayor Vico Sotto account, as the account claims it is the official account of a certain figure, and both accounts occasionally edit two articles of two other politicians including Bong Go and Paolo Duterte as seen in their previous revisions. May I request you to kindly take the necessary actions as needed, if these accounts be blocked or not. Thank you.–Sanglahi86 (talk) 11:52, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- May I add account User:Daryl Ruiz, which seems to be a sockpuppet of the accounts above. Thanks.–Sanglahi86 (talk) 12:04, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
This user edited today, ignoring your previous warning about changing their name. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
A. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG ABOUT MY USING MY TITLE! STOP HARASSING ME!
B. MY TEXTUAL CHANGES CORRECT MISINFORMATION! STOP UNDOING THEM, WHICH IS IGNORANT AND HARASSING! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MEDICOLEGAL CONSULTANT (talk • contribs) 02:22, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- You received two warnings on your talk page that your username is not in compliance with our WP:Username policy, one form me and one from Deepfriedokra, who is an admin. In order to edit Wikipedia, your username must be in compliance. Please go to WP:CHU and request a change of name. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks
for the thanks. On an unrelated note, I've always read your username as Deepfriedvodka. Do I win a fiver? Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
All good
El_C wrote: "It's all good, Deepfriedokra." I feel that's redundant. This ol' boy knows that deep fried okra is always good, as long as you drain it a bit on some paper towels or something.
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--Orange Mike | Talk 18:21, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Take a look
At here and here Regards Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 19:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
A Thank You Note
Thanks for your quick action on the threat message. Thanks for keeping Wikipedia safe. Zoodino (talk) 04:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Ajvar protection
Hiya, can I just check whether you meant to full protect Ajvar? It seems like the dispute was by IP/newly registered users - is there context for full protection? Best, Darren-M talk 00:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Darren-M:Thought that was the request at WP:RFPP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:37, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Darren-M: At least one participant looks extended confirmed, so would be unfair to SP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:39, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @MelanieN: Could you take a look at Ajvar and see if we can get by w/o full protection? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:22, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, Thank you, makes sense. Can you check you're happy that this is a stable version though please? There are a number of errors present in the page that suggests an earlier version is possibly required. 3 obvious ones are detailed in an edit request here: Talk:Ajvar#Protected_edit_request_on_25_July_2020 Darren-M talk 01:26, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- MelanieN ping re the above for your awareness if you're reviewing. Darren-M talk 01:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am reviewing the history now. Since Deepfriedokra has signed off for the night I may take action if I think it is warranted. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:32, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- It looks to me as if the disruptive, nationalistic additions/removals and edit warring are all being done by IPs and new users. I do see some regular users there but they are trying to restore the longtime stable version, and I think they should be allowed to do so. I will reduce the protection to semi-protection and see if that allows the article to become stable. I will also post a note on the talk page. If the disruptive nationalism returns, OK to restore the full protection. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, one other thing: The full protection was only for a week, and I replaced it with semi-protection for a week. But we'll see if the warring resumes at the end of that time. It may be necessary to impose semi for a longer (possibly much longer) term. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am reviewing the history now. Since Deepfriedokra has signed off for the night I may take action if I think it is warranted. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:32, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- MelanieN ping re the above for your awareness if you're reviewing. Darren-M talk 01:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @MelanieN: Could you take a look at Ajvar and see if we can get by w/o full protection? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
signing off
In the words of LeVar Burton, "Nych’all". --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Some edits to look at
There are some edits to look at Special:Contributions/Hpx130. I think we might need to revdel. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC) (please mention me on reply; thanks!)
74.70.77.106
Could you plese block user:74.70.77.106 ASAP. She clearly will not stop until blocked. CLCStudent (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
BLP on Sandy Stimpson
Hi Deepfriedokra! Thank you for your great work on wiki. I saw your comment on my block request about the negative BLP on Sandy Stimpson, and I was a bit curious about how to judge such a situation. In this case, I know that poorly referenced material on BLP pages should be removed immediately. I saw the IP users edit, checked whether the removed content was well-referenced, and decided that it was, which led me to reverting the removal. Clearly you don't agree, so I want to learn what to do better next time. What was wrong in my assumptions/reasoning? What did I miss? Looking forward to hearing from you, Pyrite Pro (talk) 07:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Pyrite Pro: Thanks for your note. Negative BLP must be approached cautiously, even if sourced.. This content was not even about the subject. Once such content is challenged, it should not be restored without consensus. I know others are more open to negative BLP content than I. I will never willingly/knowingly protect such content, and if I am to err, it will be on the side of its removal. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
BLP on Sandy Stimpson
Hi! I noticed you reverted edits by the IP that was spamming the Sandy Stimpson page (and saw the section above from another editor). Although I can see why outwardly this looks like a BLP issue, there was a deleted section on the talk page that explained the relevance to the article and why it was originally added. I agree the paragraph could be written better, but I do find it is relevant to the article as the subject responded as the Mayor of Mobile to the incident. This reference is broken on the talk page, but this is the updated URL: Alabama mayor Sandy Stimpson's statement on son's arrest for impersonating officer. I'll bring it up on the talk page to honor your edit comment, but am concerned about spam given the recent and ongoing vandalism on the page (which has impacted more than just this paragraph). Thanks for looking out! :) --Marx01 Tell me about it 12:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC) '@Marx01: Content discussion should take place on article talk. If there is spam, please remove it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
2020 ATL
Hey, I was just wondering if you could take a look at 2020 Atlantic hurricane season. I left a request at the page protection page a while ago and users are still disagreeing on content. Likely will flare up in about half an hour as the next advisory gets issued. NoahTalk 23:26, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah: Made me dizzy. Can't figure out what is what. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:28, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Well... now he/she is maing threats. NoahTalk 01:47, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricane Noah: OMG! Get out!. I blocked indef 'cause unblocking did not work out (as you might have noticed). Dig this-- I was going to ask you to mentor/guide! Damn! Guess not. SMDH. Sorry for the trouble. I should have blocked indef from the start. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2020 (UTC) Darkwind protected the page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:15, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- That's not my issue... I was just coming here to report them for abusing their TPA to make threats against the original blocking admin, CycloneBiskit. NoahTalk 10:36, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricane Noah: ??I Thought I was the original blocking admin. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ach, so. Cb Reblocked after I {foolishly} unblocked.Then I indeffed as I should have done to begin with. I'm letting that mouthiness pass as post block bravado and immaturity. (You see a lot of the former and the latter is an extra bonus.) If they ever request unblock, that'll weigh against unblocking. I think if certain other users stay off their talk page, they'll settle down. The invite to try to mentor them is still open, if you think you can. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
As a renamer...
...Could I please ask you to rename User talk:ChangeNOW Summit? The have indicated the new username in their unblock request Chelmi22). Salvio 16:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Done. Whenever I rename someone, I want to solemnly intone, "It is done!" --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:22, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- I:'d go for "henceforth you shall be known as...", myself. Anyway,
Thank you. See you around. Salvio 16:24, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- [4] EEng 05:41, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- I:'d go for "henceforth you shall be known as...", myself. Anyway,
"Vandalism"
Why was my edit reverted on a page which was then semi-protected due to "vandalism"? I'm not vandalising, I'm simply trying to tell the truth. --Mazydinner (talk) 03:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." The content you removed was. The content you added is nationalistic posturing. Please stop. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:10, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but this has WP:DENY written all over it. El_C 03:12, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Mazydinner: Also, yours was not the only edit that was disruptive. There were edits from users who were not logged in. Looks like an orchestrated campaign. Please be careful, you've gotten off on the wrong foot. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- @El C: I think if we expect new users to follow our rules we must teach them and WP:AGF. @Mazydinner:, we won't have anymore WP:NOTHERE behavior from you, will we?~
- Sorry, but I think you are on the wrong end of WP:PACT. Oh well. El_C 03:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- @El C: I think if we expect new users to follow our rules we must teach them and WP:AGF. @Mazydinner:, we won't have anymore WP:NOTHERE behavior from you, will we?~
- @Mazydinner: Also, yours was not the only edit that was disruptive. There were edits from users who were not logged in. Looks like an orchestrated campaign. Please be careful, you've gotten off on the wrong foot. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but this has WP:DENY written all over it. El_C 03:12, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Oh dear. Well if she persists and I'm not around to show her the door, I'm sure there's already a line of the willing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
???? I am confused, but I'm sorry for making edits without liking proper sources. I need to do my research and make sure I'm making correct edits. Mazydinner (talk) 03:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Armenian Genocide denial is when Turks and other groups come to tell the truth he Armenians don't want to hear, the fact that The Armenian genocide is simply not true.
Sure, sure. El_C 03:28, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm Turkish so that's really what I was told all of my life. I'm sorry, In the future I'll try to AVOID editing articles I may have bias about. Mazydinner (talk) 03:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- What did I call that? TBH, "claptrap" is apt. Oh, yes--"nationalistic posturing". We've seen this all before. We'll see it again. I should geolocate those IP's. Might be interesting. OK, Turkish nationalistic claptrap. That's Turkey's standard line. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
I didn't mean to do anything wrong.... also isn't Wikipedia blocked in Turkey? Again I apologize. Mazydinner (talk) 03:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
@Mazydinner: Almost forgot, Armenian Genocide denial and anything pertaining to the Armenian Genocide are not good places for a new editor to start. There are complex issues surrounding it, and, as you have seen, it is easy to stumble into problems related to the complexities. You might wish to learn Wikipedia by editing other areas as well as reading and rereading the linked pages from your welcome The tutorial may be useful as well. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
For my edification
You mentioned here that demanding to know someone's caste is so inappropriate a question that I cannot begin to explain
. I don't know a ton about the caste system and the rules surrounding it (other than "drop GS/Caste notices on anyone who is changing them and block if needed"), what makes that a super-inappropriate question? I can tell from context that it's not exactly a friendly inquiry. (And yes, I realize that you said you can't begin to explain - but I'm asking nicely anyway :)) GeneralNotability (talk) 22:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- First, it's rude. even more, it's like racist. In the context, even more so. It's trying to discount their point of view based on caste, so it's also a personal attack. And incivil. I know what to compare it to-- this revdel'd dismissal of an editor's opinion based on race I don't know much about caste either, and I might be wrong, but from what I've learned watching Sitush's talk page, that's all I got.. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- @GeneralNotability: forgot to ping. Watching Jeopardy. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- All righty then, that all makes sense. Thank you! GeneralNotability (talk) 12:13, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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Been busy this week. I'll try to stay away today and will possibly resume Sat night while I'm at work. May or may not answer before Tuesday. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
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- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
It was brought to my attention that I had previously returned this article to a redirect and protected (my talk page for info, and redirect's history for gory detail). I have done it again, and a ping as you have protected it at one point. I have directed the primary contributor to create a draft article. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: ^^^ FYI — billinghurst sDrewth 06:58, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sorrym I'm at work and stealing a moment here and there for this. I can't look right now. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 2 August 2020
- Special report: Wikipedia and the End of Open Collaboration?
- COI and paid editing: Some strange people edit Wikipedia for money
- News and notes: Abstract Wikipedia, a hoax, sex symbols, and a new admin
- In the media: Dog days gone bad
- Discussion report: Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
- Featured content: Remembering Art, Valor, and Freedom
- Traffic report: Now for something completely different
- News from the WMF: New Chinese national security law in Hong Kong could limit the privacy of Wikipedia users
- Obituaries: Hasteur and Brian McNeil
How to locate articles on News Bank
- Hello,
- I was concerned that you may need some assistance in location the news articles mentioned in the discussion on Talk:Jenny Durkan. So I am compiling detailed instructions:
- 1) Get access to a computer, cellular telephone or other device with access to the world wide web.
- 2) Turn the computer, cellular phone or device on by locating the on button and press down on it.
- 3) Wait for the computer, cellular telephone or devise to full turn on. If a login is required, use the alphanumerical keypad to enter in your password where the password is blank.
- 4) Once you have full access to the computer, cellular telephone or devise, locate the icon that will give you full access to the world wide web (internet). This icon may be called Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer, etc. Or it may simply be a blank white bar with the google logo near it.
- 5) Once you are "logged in" to the world wide web, find the url bar. In this bar type in "https://www.newsbank.com/" . This will take you to the News Bank website.
- 6) On the webpage you will see a tab that says "Log in through your library". Click on that link.
- 7) You will now see a new webpage. Click on the green tab that says "Login to NewsBank Resources"
- 8) A login username and password will appear. If you have access to NewsBank in this manner, type in your username and password and skip ahead to step number 13. If you cannot, go to step number 9.
- 9) Go to the website of your local library. For example https://www.spl.org/ (which is the example being used here).
- 10) Click on the "Online Resources" tab, which will produce a drop down menu. In that menu click on "Newspapers and Magazines".
- 11) Scroll down to the "Seattle Times (1895-current)" tab and click on it.
- 12) A new webpage will appear with login username and password prompts. Use your own personal library card and pin number to log in, but do not share those numbers with anyone.
- 13) You now have access to News Bank. A white bar will appear in the middle of the screen. Click on it and type in whatever you would like to read, then click "Search". For example the name of an article "Opening accounts clash at trial of police officer" or the name of the journalist "Diane Brooks" or perhaps "Robert Eric Whidbey".
- 14)Read the article. Then repeat the process from step 13 for all of the other articles.
- 15) Go to "Talk:Jenny Durkan" and share what you have discovered.
- I hope that these instructions are thorough and helpful. Please share with Usertalk:Drmies since I do not have access. And don't forget Wikipedia:Wikipedia should be fun. Cheers.--174.21.174.34 (talk) 02:03, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I really have no interest in that page. You should discuss wit people that edit the thing on the talk page. Also, this formatting is almost impossible for me to read. But thanks for the thought. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:18, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, no. If I edit the article then I become WP:INVOLVED. My only concern was to stop the disruption caused by adding back of challenged content in a BLP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the IP is completely missing the point. Drmies (talk) 02:46, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- I hate content disputes. I generally just don't care unless it's challenged negative BLP content. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- We should probably continue this on Talk:Jenny Durkan, but I do not understand. You made very bold statements about the content in the article being fabricated, yet you refuse to verify your own statements. Wait, are you...are you....psychic after all. Oh god, stay far away from that memory about the Saint Bernard when I was 22. I was drunk, don't look at it.--174.21.179.79 (talk) 02:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Needs more eyes. Posted requests to various WikiProjects. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Great. And when the section is found to have zero fabrications or lies, will you apologize?--174.21.179.79 (talk) 14:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC) You're guaranteed to get a shiny new barnstar if you do apologize. And I mean that.--174.21.179.79 (talk) 14:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Needs more eyes. Posted requests to various WikiProjects. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the IP is completely missing the point. Drmies (talk) 02:46, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
I do so apologise. Thank you for your patience and the great efforts you have made to clarify all of this. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2020 (UT)
PS. There has been another development that will help in your discussion of that page, One that may evoke a number of emotions. Wikipedia should be fun to play. But someone was got caught cheating and won't bother you anymore. PS Wikipedia has no sense of humor which we are aware of. --{Men In Black) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Good god things can get nerdy around here. Alright. I'm way too tired tonight, but my intentions are to ask one more time what the specific objections to reinstating the deleted content are and attempt to get consensus on the articles Talk Page. I also plan to reinstate the other recently deleted content. I may eventually go back to the Martin Durkan article and continue expanding it, but not right now. I also have a plan to create a page about a local Seattle-area homeless advocacy organizations which, all cards on the table, will both be fully sourced as always and, yes, may be seen as critical of certain businesses, politicians, etc who attempted to prevent this organization from doing their work. Just being upfront.
- Also, a woman bursts into her home in a frenzy of excitement and says to her husband "Honey, you will never believe it. Pack your bags, I just won the lottery for $100 million." And the husband says "Oh my god, I don't believe it. But why am I packing my bags? Where are we going?" And the wife says "I don't care where you go, just pack your bags and get out of here."--174.21.179.79 (talk) 03:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)