::::Your source says that "[t]he evidence we do have of the Women’s Klan reveals that the organization and the Klan itself had similar aims, but the women’s branch grew to encompass a wider variety of values and beliefs." Therefore I am not sure you can equate the two quite so closely. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 21:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Your source says that "[t]he evidence we do have of the Women’s Klan reveals that the organization and the Klan itself had similar aims, but the women’s branch grew to encompass a wider variety of values and beliefs." Therefore I am not sure you can equate the two quite so closely. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 21:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::There are more sources, such as this scholarly article "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/2702817 Riding a swelling tide of antielite sentiment, the Indiana KKK, working largely within the Republican party, scored numerous political victories at both the local and state level in 1924. The overall stance of Klan candidates bore a remarkable resemblance to that of Progressive reformers earlier in the century: denouncing established politicians as being corrupt and insensitive to the needs of common citizens, Klansmen called for expanded school construction, better law enforcement, moral reform, and efficient government.]" Unless there are a bunch of sources which argue that the second Klan was explicitly known for anti-progressivism, the claim cannot be made in the article.--[[User:Namiba]] 21:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::There are more sources, such as this scholarly article "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/2702817 Riding a swelling tide of antielite sentiment, the Indiana KKK, working largely within the Republican party, scored numerous political victories at both the local and state level in 1924. The overall stance of Klan candidates bore a remarkable resemblance to that of Progressive reformers earlier in the century: denouncing established politicians as being corrupt and insensitive to the needs of common citizens, Klansmen called for expanded school construction, better law enforcement, moral reform, and efficient government.]" Unless there are a bunch of sources which argue that the second Klan was explicitly known for anti-progressivism, the claim cannot be made in the article.--[[User:Namiba]] 21:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
{{outdent}}The disputed edit[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=1216702372&oldid=1214769501] was the removal of an unsourced claim in a footnote that the Second Klan has been described as anti-progressivist. The footnote supports the claim in the info-box that social conservatism was one of the nine ideologis of the Second Klan. It links to [[Progressivism]], an article that links together everything ever called progressive without any secondary sources to explain their connection.
It's not clear which definition of progressism is being used or what that has to do with being socially conservative, or even what social conservatism meant one hundred years ago.
I would agree with removal because of the lack of clarity. I don't think however that there is any continuity between the Progressive Era and the KKK in the early 1920s.
[[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 22:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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in "origin of the name", change "probably" to "likely" 108.189.72.130 (talk) 16:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The Wiki article states that the Klu Klux Klan was a far right extremist group. That is historically and categorically false as it was founded BY Confederate Nathan Bedford Forrest AS a white supremacist Democrat organisation. And remained as such into the early to mid 1900s. To say otherwise would be to intentionally spread misinformation. Facts are objective. To assume they are subjective in order to manipulate them is disingenuous at best.
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Not done: Much of this is wrong. I'm also not sure what you're proposing. Edit requests are for either uncontroversial fixes or changes that have consensus. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably time for an FAQ to explain to those who bother to look at it that political parties have exchanged positions and members over the past 150 years, and that what might have been plausible in the late 19th century and the early 20th century is now a fallacy, given the intentional strategies of the parties to on one hand reject this kind of organization and the other to move in their direction. Acroterion(talk) 14:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Until sources are provided which substantiate the claim regarding the Klan and the Progressive Era reforms, it should remain removed.--User:Namiba 20:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
well the quote just cited is about the women's KKK, a separate and much smaller group. The main KKK supported public schools in the sense that they worked to destroy Catholic schools. The KKK in Alabama and Oregon did support some Progressive measures (especially those that were anti-Catholic--see Hugo Black). In general the 2nd KKK was an inactive social club--they rarely were active for anything. (They existed as a get rich quickdeal for the organizers). The KKK did not publish anything but several independent weekly newspapers claimed to be the voice of the kkk in an effort to get subscriptions. Rjensen (talk) 20:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The women's KKK was the women's branch of the Klan and, as such, reflects the Klan's politics. Prohibition was one of the key reforms sought by progressives and it was enforced by Klan violence.--User:Namiba 21:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your source says that "[t]he evidence we do have of the Women’s Klan reveals that the organization and the Klan itself had similar aims, but the women’s branch grew to encompass a wider variety of values and beliefs." Therefore I am not sure you can equate the two quite so closely. Dumuzid (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The disputed edit[2] was the removal of an unsourced claim in a footnote that the Second Klan has been described as anti-progressivist. The footnote supports the claim in the info-box that social conservatism was one of the nine ideologis of the Second Klan. It links to Progressivism, an article that links together everything ever called progressive without any secondary sources to explain their connection.
It's not clear which definition of progressism is being used or what that has to do with being socially conservative, or even what social conservatism meant one hundred years ago.
I would agree with removal because of the lack of clarity. I don't think however that there is any continuity between the Progressive Era and the KKK in the early 1920s.