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I think the language used in the introductory paragraph, especially since that’s shown on places like YouTube context boxes, is ambiguous. By labeling them “activists,” it seems to justify their OPCA narrative. An activist has a positive connotation. 71.191.198.57 (talk) 03:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I may be wrong, but I don't think "activist" has a positive - or negative, for that matter - connotation in English. It's just descriptive. Martin Luther King was an activist, and so was the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Psychloppos (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen it jused dergatory, as in "activist judges". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:09, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, in that case, it is derogatory, because by definition, judges, prosecutors and the like are not supposed to be activists (well, unless they are Andrey Vyshinsky or Roland Freisler, of course). But generally speaking, someone who wants to advance his own ideas is not necessarily good or bad: it depends on which ideas he is promoting, and how he does it. Psychloppos (talk) 19:45, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The term "activist judge" has no place being used in Wikipedia's voice, as that would be an NPOV violation; but we have no control over how others use it. But that's got nothing to do with describing an MLK as an activist, since he was very active indeed. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:39, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, of course. What I meant is that calling someone an "activist" does not, per se, make him look good or bad. What matters is the context and the nature of their actions. Psychloppos (talk) 07:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
pursuant to the flag
One American sovereign citizen "guru" and "quantum grammar" advocate, Russell Jay Gould, claims that having filed a document pursuant to the U.S. flag at a moment when the United States was supposedly bankrupt makes him the legitimate ruler of the country.
What the heck does "pursuant" mean here? Did Gould get secret coded instructions from the flag itself? —Tamfang (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SovCits believe that US flags with gold fringe are naval flags, indicating that the court they're displayed in is using maritime law, rather than common law. It's an inane argument, but it's what they actually believe.
Gould thinks he can identify the exact time the US government went "bankrupt" by when this supposed change in flags occurred. Their entire belief system hinges on this fact, that the government has been operating illegally for over a century and using citizens as collateral to pay off debts. They seem to think they can file just the right legal paperwork (with an government they simultaneously believe has no legal authority, mind you) so that they can get access to this money and absolve themselves of following the law. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 21:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I still think there must be a clearer word than pursuant, unless of course Gould used that word. —Tamfang (talk) 21:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change of language
that even though they physically reside in this country,
that even though they physically reside in the USA, 194.223.67.40 (talk) 08:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'Sovereign citizen arguments have no basis in law and have never been successful in court'
Cliven Bundy managed to succeed. Certainly not in the manner of a legal precedent, but he won the case. Jokem (talk) 02:20, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No sovereign citizen arguments led to the dismissal of the charges against the Bundys. Rather, the judge declared a mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct. Thus, the statement is correct. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 02:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
From what I read, both attempts at a trial had a jury favorable to Mr Bundy, even though the prosecution cheated. So your statement above is what is called a technicality. Cheers. Jokem (talk) 20:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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