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:Sure that'd be fine. Just to clarify, I think Polygon is perfectly RS for coverage of games, I just don't think it's RS for topics unrelated to games like crime reporting, medical news, economics trends and analysis, French elections, etc. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford#top|talk]]) 15:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
:Sure that'd be fine. Just to clarify, I think Polygon is perfectly RS for coverage of games, I just don't think it's RS for topics unrelated to games like crime reporting, medical news, economics trends and analysis, French elections, etc. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford#top|talk]]) 15:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::This is where I fundamentally disagree. I think that media outlets that cover niche topics (to the extent we can call the multi-billion dollar gaming industry niche) can reliably report on people in the industry even when that reporting is on crimes or allegations of crimes by people in the industry. I would go a step further and say this kind of reporting in the wake of the MeToo movement is vital to the health of these niche communities because reporters are doing their jobs of holding industry accountable for the actions people in it take. For example, [[Kotaku]] has done some amazing coverage on this issue in video games [https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483 1] [https://kotaku.com/ubisoft-employees-have-grave-concerns-over-toronto-stud-1844277486 2]. That kind of reporting could only be done by a niche outlet who had built up relationships of trust & a good reputation in their industry. So Polygon (which is held to same editorial standards as the other Vox Media properties & articles are cross-shared across these properties) is a reliable source on allegations of harassment in the gaming sphere. I would say this [https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/25/21302341/video-game-tabletop-game-comics-allegations-harassment-abuse-racism-metoo Polygon article] is a RS on the pervasive nature of harassment in the industry and should be referenced wherever the specific cases are mentioned on Wikipedia. [[User:Sariel Xilo|Sariel Xilo]] ([[User talk:Sariel Xilo|talk]]) 23:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::This is where I fundamentally disagree. I think that media outlets that cover niche topics (to the extent we can call the multi-billion dollar gaming industry niche) can reliably report on people in the industry even when that reporting is on crimes or allegations of crimes by people in the industry. I would go a step further and say this kind of reporting in the wake of the MeToo movement is vital to the health of these niche communities because reporters are doing their jobs of holding industry accountable for the actions people in it take. For example, [[Kotaku]] has done some amazing coverage on this issue in video games [https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483 1] [https://kotaku.com/ubisoft-employees-have-grave-concerns-over-toronto-stud-1844277486 2]. That kind of reporting could only be done by a niche outlet who had built up relationships of trust & a good reputation in their industry. So Polygon (which is held to same editorial standards as the other Vox Media properties & articles are cross-shared across these properties) is a reliable source on allegations of harassment in the gaming sphere. I would say this [https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/25/21302341/video-game-tabletop-game-comics-allegations-harassment-abuse-racism-metoo Polygon article] is a RS on the pervasive nature of harassment in the industry and should be referenced wherever the specific cases are mentioned on Wikipedia. [[User:Sariel Xilo|Sariel Xilo]] ([[User talk:Sariel Xilo|talk]]) 23:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
:::{{xt|"This is where I fundamentally disagree."}} Then there's no point in bringing something to RSN jointly. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford#top|talk]]) 05:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


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Rollback request

Hi! I can see that Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback has a high backlog, so I wondered to ask if you could review my request. Thanks a lot. Juliette Han (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A bowl of strawberries for you!

In appreciation for your delightful new article, Super-Duper Missile Schazjmd (talk) 00:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Schazjmd. FYI, I've nominated it ITN here [1]. Chetsford (talk) 00:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Pamela Chelgren-Koterba

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May 2020

Dude? Really[2]? Horse Eye Jack (talk) 00:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Really, dude. Chetsford (talk) 05:20, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Super-Duper Missile for deletion

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Kindly review Gouri G Kishan and Kartikeya Gummakonda (both drafts) and tell me how to improve them. The article about Kartikeya is in review for several months and is still not reviewed yet.

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Rasmussen Reports

Please take a look at Rasmussen Reports. I think I made some improvements to major issues. Thoughts? Have to run now but wanted to put this on your radar because some of the content I removed seemed rather blatantly problematic to me...Marquardtika (talk) 15:36, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marquardtika - I agree your edits were major improvements, though they were all quickly undone! It seems this has been in a rather abysmal state for awhile now. I'd suggest we just leave it alone and let the discussion ride for 30 days until some sort-of consensus is reached and then move from there. Each edit may require a discussion so this will probably take awhile to see improvement and I doubt it will ever be stable enough to be GA. Chetsford (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your thoughts. I'll see how discussion plays out. Cheers to the weekend, whatever that even means anymore! Marquardtika (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Marquardtika - since it's been just about 30 days now, I've logged a request to have the discussion closed at WP:RFCLOSE. Chetsford (talk) 21:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Marquardtika (talk) 01:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Iteris

Hi again, Chetsford! I hope you're doing well and staying safe. I really do try not to ask the same editors for help with article update requests, but in this case, I pinged you because of your previous help. I've tried to make the review process as easy as possible by outlining specific changes and providing updated markup in user space to make copying and pasting of the entire page possible (I remember you've requested this format before), but also understand if you're unable to review at this time. Do you have a moment to take a look, or shall I try reaching out to a relevant WikiProject? Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Inkian Jason, that's no problem at all. I'll look right now. Chetsford (talk) 17:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your help. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Polygon

I've never brought a source to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard but I wanted to know if it was possible for two editors to do that together and if you would interested. We disagree on if Polygon is a reliable source so I thought putting it on the noticeboard with both views would be a good starting point in creating discussion. This is the only previous discussion on Polygon which references that Polygon is considered reliable at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. But that didn't get it added to the RS list like other Vox Media properties (Vox, Recode, & The Verge). The noticeboard calls for article & content examples and I'm a little busy right now so ideally this is something we could work on later this month. Let me know what you think. Sariel Xilo (talk) 20:14, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure that'd be fine. Just to clarify, I think Polygon is perfectly RS for coverage of games, I just don't think it's RS for topics unrelated to games like crime reporting, medical news, economics trends and analysis, French elections, etc. Chetsford (talk) 15:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is where I fundamentally disagree. I think that media outlets that cover niche topics (to the extent we can call the multi-billion dollar gaming industry niche) can reliably report on people in the industry even when that reporting is on crimes or allegations of crimes by people in the industry. I would go a step further and say this kind of reporting in the wake of the MeToo movement is vital to the health of these niche communities because reporters are doing their jobs of holding industry accountable for the actions people in it take. For example, Kotaku has done some amazing coverage on this issue in video games 1 2. That kind of reporting could only be done by a niche outlet who had built up relationships of trust & a good reputation in their industry. So Polygon (which is held to same editorial standards as the other Vox Media properties & articles are cross-shared across these properties) is a reliable source on allegations of harassment in the gaming sphere. I would say this Polygon article is a RS on the pervasive nature of harassment in the industry and should be referenced wherever the specific cases are mentioned on Wikipedia. Sariel Xilo (talk) 23:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"This is where I fundamentally disagree." Then there's no point in bringing something to RSN jointly. Chetsford (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just Curious

Hello Chetsford, I was wondering, is it possible for an admin to grant page mover to an editor who really needs it without reaching the time threshold? Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Synoman Barris - anything's possible! I'd be happy to add that as a permission to anyone if they really needed it but didn't quite meet criteria 1, 2 or 4 of WP:PAGEMOVER guidelines. Failure to meet criteria 3 might be a little trickier. Chetsford (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Chetsford, I have moved many pages, mostly to draft space and sometimes fixing headers. It’s annoying to leave redirects which I have to tag for R2 deletion again Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Chetsford, Fastily tries but it would actually be easier with the flag Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Synoman Barris - you appear to meet all the criteria. Can you just log a request at WP:PERM/PM and I'll add that permission to your rights? Chetsford (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Chetsford, I have made the request. Thanks Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Chetsford, Thank you, I hope my tasks will now be more easier. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 21:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]