User talk:El C

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

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4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_incidents

Hi, this comparison(My final version vs My first version) shows I did improved and modified my work a lot since the first version and not a single revision was done without modification based on other editor's opinion. Plus, this comparison (My first version vs The previous version) shows I do respect other's contribution and reserved all information in original text. I simply added some new information based on different sources.
I request to remove the protection on this page so I can continue improving my work. My historical actions did shows my sincere attitude to improve this page and solve the dispute with other editors. I will take the responsibility to constantly improving my work based current concerns and suggestion and any further concerns in the future. Regards. —Fenal Kalundo (talk) 09:50, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Your historical actions revealed edit warring, so the page will stay protected for a while. El_C 00:37, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring - User:Contraebutors

As per discussion here, the User:Contraebutors responds by deleting your message and then continues to edi-war to add their WP:Synth content without any explanation or attempt to answer the attempt to discuss the edits, which they also deleted from their talkpage.

Also the user reverting very similar material in the same sections of the same articles Gal Gadot and Shlomit Malka, last year was User:Geulaoh or User:Wikipedia-Translator and I wonder if they are the same editor as User:Contraebutors, given the remarkable co-incidence that they would be re-inserting material in those two same articles as the user last year. Avaya1 (talk) 00:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Blocked for 31 hours for violating 3RR. Perhaps initiate an SPI report... El_C 12:19, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

The editor has gone straight back to edit warring the same WP:OR material, without any explanation or attempt to engage in discussion. And just deletes anything on their talkpage trying to discuss it. Avaya1 (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

The user continues edit-warring on the same article to insert WP:OR content. Avaya1 (talk) 20:34, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Blocked for one week. Seems highly disruptive to return to the same edit warring after the block, especially with the astonishing edit summary: "rv vandalism against 12 different editors". That seems like a straight-up provocation. El_C 20:56, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit request

Talk:White phosphorus munitions#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 May 2017--181.90.197.11 (talk) 03:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Page watch request

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this request, but as a relatively inexperienced user, I would like to solicit your help in keeping an eye on the Yassmin Abdel-Magied page. As you can see, I've been doing quite a bit of work on it, adding information, re-formatting, trying to keep it factual and informative, with appropriate citations rather than opinion pieces in tabloid newspapers, rather than with the undue bias on certain "controversies" which certain people like to push. I am running out of time before going away for a month with limited internet access, and I suspect that anonymous users or vandals may keep attacking this page.

I noticed that you'd edited it once before and are an admin, so wondering if you're able to keep an eye on it for a while and revert any unnecessary changes? There's still plenty of room for improvement, but this needs to be done by disinterested parties, not those who have an agenda to push. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 12:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Sure, happy to keep an eye. Enjoy your time away. El_C 12:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Maratha Empire map

Hi! You did not allow me to complain about the Maratha empire map vandalisation, but it is still being vandalised by that IP. Please do something about it!-Dona-Hue (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

You're the one who never responded. I never prevented you from complaining. It's just an inferior map—how is it vandalism? El_C 16:27, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

My dear friend El_C, I do not wish to argue with you - it will not serve any purpose. You removed my complaint from a notice board (please see the matter at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/780971822) about a user repeatedly replacing the map there with an inferior map. At least can you protect that article so that only registered users can edit that page? Thanks!-Dona-Hue (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Why not try to explain to the IP why one map is superior to another? One edit 2 days ago is not grounds for semiprotection, I'm afraid. But you can try RFPP. El_C 20:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I removed your report from AN3 because you claimed you were reverting vandalism—but vandalism reports go at AIV, which was my argument at the time. El_C 21:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I see that you have done the needful. Thanks!- Dona-Hue (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

KPS gill article vandalism and illegitimate editing

The above article is being edited and vandalised by adding false and misleading information which is derogatory and communalistic. Urgent lock required before anyone again vandalises it AnadiDoD (talk) 18:47, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

What about Communalism? Anyway, it looks like it was semiprotected for a week. El_C 08:12, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

GO

Welcome to Jimmy Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#I_ask_you_make_warning 95.29.156.251 (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. El_C 18:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

• Hi. I ask you implement these words of Jimmy Wales: "If there is an official response from either Medvedev or the government, then that clearly must be cited."--Jimbo Wales (talk) 06:54, 31 May 2017 (UTC) (from topic on his page). It was the words about MVD, but now you may add also information about court. - 128.73.113.234 (talk) 13:34, 2 June 2017 (UTC).

• 1. You've provided no such statement. 2. I already added the Defamation suit to article about the documentary. 3. Banned users are not allowed to contribute here. Full stop. El_C 14:21, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi Protection

Hi El C, just wondering about this [2]. It seems the request for SP was perhaps over the top. A single vandal-only account, which was eventually blocked, looks like the sole source of vandalism. Can you unprotect please? 86.185.30.254 (talk) 21:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

There was more vandalism than that. [3] [4] El_C 21:22, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Noted, but it's not "persistent disruptive editing". Those last two are more like test edits. No worries. Not really bothered. Unfortunately this type of fast-moving high-profile article attracts unnecessary protection almost as much as it attracts vandalism. 86.185.30.254 (talk) 21:32, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Revert rule broken

I'm having a issue with this user iamcheese this user keeps on reverting my edit and shortening United States to us when all other articles are not shorted any advise HardcoreWrestlingFan 04:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC) HardcoreWrestlingFan 04:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

You need four reverts fo violate 3RR (I'm only seeing three reverts). El_C 04:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh I thought it was three, thanks for letting me know HardcoreWrestlingFan 16:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC) HardcoreWrestlingFan 16:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HardcoreWrestlingFan (talk • contribs)

FYI

Hello El C. I wanted to let you know that you deleted an article but its talk page is still intact. Please see Talk:Risyad Abdala Ramadhan. Cheers and have a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 11:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 11:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

RealGeo

I've made it clear that if he continues to try to make our articles state that the earth is flat he'll be blocked. He's been trying to add an image created by blocked User:Middled. Doug Weller talk 11:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Ah well, he thinks he knows the Truth. Doug Weller talk 13:23, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks for looking out. El_C 14:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit request - Ali Khamenei

Talk:Ali_Khamenei#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2017--190.31.127.101 (talk) 02:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Edit request - Ali Khamenei (recovering important content)

Talk:Ali Khamenei#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2017 (2)--181.90.21.85 (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Ali Khamenei - copyright violations

Hi. A user removed several sourced paragraphs in the article about ayatollah Kahemeni because of copyright problems. I rewrote the content in different words in order for an extended confirmed user to restore it. Please, would you mind taking care of it? (thank you very much): Talk:Ali Khamenei#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2017 (2)--181.93.227.62 (talk) 01:26, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 03:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Mhhossein at Ali Khamenei

Hi El C. Mhhossein has restored his POV tag at Ali Khamenei (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) despite having no consensus to do so. This has violated the arbitration notice at the top of the article talkpage which states that consensus is required before restoring a reverted edit. On the talkpage I have currently two editors agreeing with my position and he has noone supporting his position. In addition, as I noted on the talkpage, Mhhossein has advanced no real arguments in support of his position. Also, he reverted me on 2 June, without replying to my comment on 31 May, although, as his contributions show, he edited multiple times after my 31 May post at the article talkpage. I think his disruption merits at least a warning. Thank you. Dr. K. 14:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Consensus required is no longer part of ARBPIA3—see my latest changes to the Arab-Israeli editnotice. El_C 14:24, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oh, gosh. Another change in that already complex area. Who can keep up with this? Anyway, thanks for the update. All the best. Dr. K. 14:29, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Block evasion of Willard84

Willard84 is evading his block by still editing talk page while logged out.[5] I was going to open SPI but I didn't because I found there was a SPI against him for such behavior before and had been given last warning "It is not acceptable to use an account and an IP on the same article,"[6] by a CU before. Capitals00 (talk) 07:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

I blocked the IP for 72 hours and lengthen the block for the user also for that duration. El_C 04:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Two things

Hello my comandante. First of all, I made a minor edit request in the BDS article. Second, what do you think of this removal? Perhaps you could recover the content without a direct quote? There is an entire paragraph of John Strawson that is hidden, while I think that Ishmael Khaldi deserves at least a sentence in the article. Perhaps you could suggest a trimming down of the material? Thanks--186.125.80.252 (talk) 04:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry, I'm not really in the mood for ARBPIA today. El_C 04:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risyad_abdala_ramadhan

This page is back AND not even in English this time. Opinion? I just ask because you deleted it the first time. LordAtlas (talk) 03:45, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Franzboas master account

Since you participated in the discussion about Dennis Brown's block of Franzboas, I'm pointing you to this, which presents some proposals for additional action. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:00, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Jewish Diaspora

Thanks for your attention to this case. Just to be clear concerning the "Consensus required" state, do I now need to start a new RFC to get the text into the article, which was just decided in the previous RFC a week ago, or may I restore the closed version of the text as the current consensus? Cheers,--Dailycare (talk) 14:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't know what the "closed version" is—however the RFC was closed counts as current consensus. El_C 16:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, so just to check, is it OK to change the text to the form decided in the RFC? Or do I need to establish a consensus concerning reverting to the current consensus? Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 05:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the result of the RfC is the current consensus. El_C 05:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Im Tirzu

Could you revert this guy? (only extended-confirmed users can edit) Obviously Algemeiner is not a "blog", but a known Jewish newspaper. Thanks.--181.1.244.137 (talk) 02:57, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 03:27, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

You misled me. That was a reprint of a blog. El_C 05:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

As far as evidence of you enabling a long term sockpupeteer, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/AndresHerutJaim/Archive for an abundance of evidence of the Aregentinian IP on Telecom Argentina S.A. with a single minded focus on the Arab-Israeli conflict is in fact that user. And again, as before, can you please explain to me how it is this is not a straightforward violation of WP:MEAT? You are making edits at the direction of a user banned from making those edits by an arbitration decision. The same thing happened here, which likewise involved a banned sockpuppeteer. nableezy - 05:40, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

This is all news to me. I assumed it was an IP in good standing making edit requests, ones which I directed them to make at the article talk pages multiple times. I made a mistake here and aim to ban the user from my talk page. I wish someone would have told me about this a while back rather than letting me make a fool of myself. El_C 05:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Everybody makes mistakes, and I appreciate your quick admission of that, but this is why this has to go to the talk page and not an individual user. None of the talk pages are extended confirmed protected, and it allows those of us who remember these things from years past to bring it up so everybody sees it, not just see a revert on the article without an explanation as to why it happened. nableezy - 05:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Fair point, again. I promise to do better. El_C 05:53, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for being so short with you, but I have seen Andres asking you before. I have wasted far, far too much of my life on these silly (and in this case, also rather racist) socks, Huldra (talk) 23:34, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Sure, that's not a big deal. I was surprised more than anything. But why not say something the first time you saw it?—I don't understand. And, frankly, am feeling a little hurt by everyone being in on it except for me. That sucks. All it would have taken was a few seconds to let me in on the secret. At least now I know what everyone else did, so sincere thanks for that. El_C 09:32, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Well what I did this time, was to place a {{sockpuppet|1=AndresHerutJaim}} on both the user page, and talk page of that IP. I assumed you saw that, and my apologies for apparently being wrong. I should of course have notified you, when he pinged you earlier, here ....but that disappeared among the zillion things I should have done... Again, sorry, Huldra (talk) 20:15, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Mail sent/received

Please check your email (not related to anything above). You will probably get a notification in addition to this, but the issue warrants fast attention. You may want to revert my comment when you have seen it, thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 07:56, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 07:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Norwalk, Connecticut

Now that the two primary edit warriors are prohibited from editing Norwalk, Connecticut, could the page protection be removed? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 18:47, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

bad revert

I think your revert on the las anod page was not very well thought out. geographically it should either comply with its intetnationally recognized location i.e. Somalia or how the majority of residents self-identity i.e. khaatumo - not by a hostile foreign tribal organization (i.e. somaliland). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.134.136 (talk • contribs)

I'm just sick of single purpose accounts edit warring on that page instead of using the article talk page to advance their argument. El_C 09:32, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:Iraqi Civil War infobox

Hello, could I ask for your assistance regarding an issue? Over at the Template:Iraqi Civil War infobox a rather rude editor is constantly changing the start date of the 2014-present Iraqi civil war from January 1st to June 4th (unsourced). Per two previous consensus established, where sources were cited for the January start date, it was established it started in January 2014 (when ISIL took over Fallujah and much of Anbar) and the name should be Iraqi Civil War (2014-present). He is constantly reverting back to June instead of January and he has now also removed (2014-present) from the heading of the infobox (this is required since this is the second civil war, the first one, for which we have a separate article, being from 2006 to 2008). I tried pointing out in the edit summaries when reverting him that a consensus was previously established and that he should start a discussion on the talk page if he wants a new consensus (instead of edit warring), he ignored that and simply made insulting comments. For now I will chuck this to his inexperience (has edited for only 3 months) and that he wasn't aware of WP:CIVIL and WP:CONSENSUS. I have now reverted his edit and cited almost half a dozen sources that point to the rise of ISIL starting in January 2014, which is the time that was agreed to per consensus. I even opened a dialogue at his discussion page and proposed we discuss the issue at the article's talk page and ping all involved editors. However, I have a feeling he will again revert me (and remove the sources) without starting a discussion on the talk page. What could you suggest? EkoGraf (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Page protected for one week. El_C 18:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Hopefully we will be able to discuss the issue through the talk page now. EkoGraf (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit request - Israel and the apartheid analogy

Hi. Please take a look at this. Thank you very much.--181.1.145.52 (talk) 20:19, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

This is likewise AndresHerutJaim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) nableezy - 22:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Picture in Golan, Six-Day War

Hi. Could you please add the following picture of Israeli troops in the Golan above the paragraph that starts "On the morning of June 9, Israeli jets began carrying..." (in this section, as it was before previous picture was removed for lacking commons permit):

Israeli tanks advancing on the Golan Heights

Thanks--186.124.202.48 (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

This is also AndresHerutJaim. nableezy - 22:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:AE notification

Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Jewish_diaspora, where I asked for admin input on your interpretation of the happenings on the Jewish diaspora article and the sanctions you threaten me with should I not revert my last edit to that article. Debresser (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)