User talk:MB

Burnside Public School

Hi I am so sorry for reverting your edits! If I did remove them it's because I thought I made a mistake while editing or something and had no clue someone else had actually edited something. I just assumed I had amnesia. This is my note to be more observant for sure!! Oh and they were good. I just didn't see them and because I'm kinda new to wikipedia I was a bit hyper aware to avoid mistakes. But thank you!

Helpingpeopleyay (talk) 09:20, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Peter Webb

Hi MB. For a new person to Wiki pedia you and the others have certainly made it a terrific experience. So great to know you all have my back and giving a chance for me to get things right and learn. Cheers mmd Manymanydogs (talk) 19:58, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Seasons greetings

Ohara Shoson (Koson), Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927	Have a wonderful holiday season filled with peace, joy, prosperity and wonder.
	Hi MB, Thank you for all your contributions during the year. I really appreciate that you encouraged me to join NPP. May your 2023 be filled with creativity and good health. Image: Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927 Netherzone (talk) 22:58, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Christmas

	Merry Christmas, MB
	or whatever else you may celebrate at this time of year. Thank you for all your work on Wikipedia throughout the year and may 2023 prove to be a happy and successful year for you and your family Josey Wales Parley 20:07, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello MB: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:27, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

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Happy Holidays

		Happy Holidays
		Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 17:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

RM discussion...

Mind closing it as well? since you had done the move. Talk:Alberto Suárez. – robertsky (talk) 18:02, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits

Thanks for your recent edits to Robert Hood (explorer). I wrote that yesterday at my mom's in the midst of Christmas day chaos(!), after Hood came up in conversation. Geordie (talk) 18:51, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Which oblast for Bezimenne?

Hi. Thank you for your interest in Bezimenne. Before we can finalise the name we have to solve the puzzle of which oblast it is in. According to the map in the infobox, it is in Kherson Oblast, not Mykolaiv Oblast. See the discussion at Talk:Bezimenne, Snihurivka urban hromada, Bashtanka Raion, Mykolaiv Oblast#Mykolaiv Oblast or Kherson Oblast?. Ymblanter thinks OSM is pretty accurate, in which case the map in the infobox is wrong. I have not been able to solve it and am unconvinced either way. Can you help? Thanks. Nurg (talk) 05:36, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry but I am of no help. I was just reviewing redirects as part of NPP and found this. I know it should have a shorter name, but I can't help determine the correct Oblast. MB 05:47, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Reversion of edits

Greetings, I happened to notice that you reverted my edits regarding Bishop Luke Waddinge of Fens and Fr. William Devereux of Piercetown. To take the page The Wexford Carols as an example: the articles you reverted the links to are for entirely different men. Bishop Luke Waddinge is not the same person as the Friar Luke Wadding, and Fr. William Devereux is certainly not the same as the Anglo-Norman nobleman William Devereux. Factually, they are all completely different people, so I cannot conceive of why you reverted my edits as "Non Constructive". I will fix the errors again soon, if you don't wish to. Best regards, DefeatingLine (talk) 23:05, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

You changed many links from articles to things that do not exist, such as Kilmore, County Wexford to Kilmore Carols, making your whole series of edits very suspicious. I see another editor has removed your changes in Kilmore, County Wexford, so perhaps you should explain yourself on the article talk pages and get WP:CONSENSUS. MB 23:29, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the Kilmore Carols, I made those edits in anticipation of an article I drafted. I believe that the Kilmore carols are unique and notable enough to warrant their own article. My draft can be found here. I was probably too hasty in adding the links, as I see that it can take over four months for an article to be reviewed. My draft is hardly perfect, but I expect that's the point of review. Any suggestions you have regarding the draft, by the way, would be most welcome. DefeatingLine (talk) 01:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

You should definitely wait to see if the article is accepted before adding links to it. The Draft looks well referenced, so it could get reviewed fairly quickly. You can change the numbers in the list to just "#", that creates an numbered list with proper spacing between elements. It's great that you have references. Those are acceptable, but it would be better if they were more complete with citation templates like {{cite book}} or {{cite web}}. That is something you could work on while waiting for a review. See WP:REFB for help, and you can always ask for help at the WP:TEAHOUSE. MB 02:05, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

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Maa Tara Chandi Temple

What does your edit summary mean? Please do not revert my edits giving such reasons. Instead of reinserting bare references you may try to fix them. Egeymi (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

There is a mop reserved in your name

You are a remarkable editor in many ways. You would be a good administrator, in my opinion, and appear to be well qualified. You personify an administrator without tools and have gained my support already!

— TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 06:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Remarkable work in patrolling mainspace, and could clearly use the tools. I'd support if you decided to request adminship. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I think patrolling and XfD look good, but would like to see more content creation, probably a GA. If you have one, which I think shouldn't take more than three months once you pick a topic, I'd be more than happy to support. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

I already have two (and 85 DYKs). MB 01:34, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

My mistake, the edit count gave me the contrary impression. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

• You would be a superb candidate at RfA, in my opinion. JavaHurricane 09:17, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
• @TheresNoTime, Wugapodes, John M Wolfson, and JavaHurricane: It looks like MB took you at your word... Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:13, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Polson Logging Co. 2

Remember that steam engine-related article you edited and added that “bare URLs” banner? Well I’ve tried two improve the URLs since then and now the page is longer than it was when you probably saw it. Is it alright if the bare URLs banner gets removed? 23.169.64.51 (talk) 01:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes it seems that there are no longer any bare urls so you can certainly remove it. But there is a different referencing error now - Ref #13 says there are to refs with the same name but different content. Probably just needs a minor correction. Can you fix that too? MB 01:52, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Billard

How much more of this[1] kind of trolling cleanup, typo(s) fixed: Billard → Billiard should I expect? This has continued for a few months now. Invasive Spices (talk) 31 December 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Invasive Spices, it's interesting that you didn't revert it then - but you knew of course that the edit hadn't actually been made and was an AWB false positive leaving a non revertible edit summary. What the AWB run did do was to remove a lot of unnecessary overlinking and effect some other MoS corrections. Its a long article and I see you added 86.9% of the text. Probably took a long time to write and I found it very interesting, but clean ups and copy-editing are necessary evils and any editor is welcome to do it. It even happens on the many articles I write, but with the arthritis in my fingers I've become a rather clumsy typist and I'm grateful for it. MB was doing the right thing. Perhaps being so quick to accuse experienced editors of trolling isn't quite the best reaction. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

"Several months" and "so quick" don't go together. The dichotomy of an immediate impression and several months experience is the important thing here.

it's interesting that you didn't revert it then no it isn't. I read the edit. Why would I revert any of it? but you knew of course of course I did. Invasive Spices (talk) 1 January 2023 (UTC)

As a retired professional linguist, I am unable to resolve how that can be a dichotomy unless you are confusing the word with its botanical sense. Your 'several months' and your quick and incorrect impression don't conjoin in theory and method in any sense. The accusation of trolling was just plain wrong. Perhaps you might wish to thank MB for his clean up work. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Happy New Year, MB! In 2022, other editors thanked you 1010 times using the thanks tool. This places you in the top 9 most thanked Wikipedians of 2022. Congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Wikipedia. Here's to 2023! Mz7 (talk) 23:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, MB!

Happy New Year!

MB,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Happy New Year, MB!

Happy New Year!

MB,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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NPP Awards for 2022

		Redirect Ninja Award
		For over 6,000 redirect reviews during 2022. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

		The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award
		For over 1,000 article reviews during 2022. Well done! Keep up the good work! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I wish you good luck on your adminship bid! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I hope you will be successful but right now the odds are falling... Thingofme (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello MB,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

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New pages patrol newsletter

Regarding the latest newsletter: it's missing a closing div tag, and thus its formatting is leaking out to subsequent sections. isaacl (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Ah shoot, we will probably need someone to use WP:AWB or similar tool to go through all of the pages at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter list and add </div> to the end of the newsletters. Mz7 (talk) 00:58, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I would be willing to help with the cleanup effort for this. At the moment, I only have access to a Mac, so it's a bit cumbersome to get AWB set up, but I'm looking into WP:JWB as a potential alternative to AWB. Mz7 (talk) 01:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

@Certes, @GoingBatty, could either of you fix my screw-up. I could do this myself, but am a little tied up at my RFA right now. MB 01:08, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I will leave it to one of them as well, then! Looks like they have more recent experience with AWB. It's probably an easy fix: just look for the text <!-- Drafted by User:MB, Reviewed by Novem Linguae, Kudpung --> and preprend the div tag to that. Mz7 (talk) 01:19, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

The tricky part would be detecting if it has already been fixed, as I did at User talk:Valereee, since there are numerous ways of making an edit to fix the problem. Of course, an extra closing div tag isn't the end of the world for most pages. There are some who do want their entire talk page enclosed within a box, and so deliberately leave an unclosed tag at the top of their page. Adding an extra closing div tag in that case would close the box prematurely. isaacl (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

@MB: Fix it like this? There are 869 pages to review, so it would take quite a while. GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

That looks correct. Can you manually watch for ones that have already been fixed, in case any of those would have the problem described above if there was another wrapper box? MB 04:13, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. If DannyS712 has a bot that could fix this, I'll defer to him. Ping me if that doesn't work out. GoingBatty (talk) 15:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Ping @DannyS712 for help running his Mms fix bot. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Also, (and I realize you're busy at the mop festival) there are three incorrect usages of semicolons in the newsletter that I always have to correct, because it renders invalid HTML5 and creates issues with screen readers per H:DL, so please fix that when you get a chance. The incorrect semicolons are just before the "Backlog", "2022 Awards" and "Reminders". Thank you for fixing this, and I have added the closing div tag to your newsletter above this section. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 02:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about that. I've updated the draft, should not happen next time. MB 02:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

my pleasure and thank you very much! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 02:56, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Although I agree using semicolons to create pseudo-headings results in invalid HTML, I can't get too excited about that aspect in content intended for talk pages, which typically contain many colon-based list items, and those too create invalid HTML without a preceding semicolon list item. It is nonetheless semantically incorrect, with one possible consequence being screen readers misinterpreting how to read it, and thus inadvisable. (No easy alternatives exist for lists with only colon-based list items, so for better or worse we just live with that problem.) isaacl (talk) 03:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

WP:AWBREQ may be able to help if you guys add a request there. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:06, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey MB. I have just gone through around 300+ user talk pages to manually add </div>. Hopefully this should help out with the cleanup! echidnaLives - talk - edits 12:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, since we're in a situation right now where some people already have it fixed and some people don't, I don't think a fully automated solution (what I presume DannyS712's bot is) is worth the time to investigate (especially given the risk of bugs creating even more work). 869 pages is a lot, but it's still within the realm of what's accomplishable in a semi-automated fashion using AWB or JWB. I am now in the process of using JWB and going through the user talk pages—checking first if it has been fixed already by seeing if any </div> tag exists after the newsletter. Mz7 (talk) 06:57, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

OK, I was able to go in alphabetical order through all of the user talk pages from the letters A through F. Edited 228 pages and manually skipped 33 either because the issue was already fixed or because the newsletter got removed. I think I'll call it here for the night, but somebody else can feel free to pick up where I left off (the next user talk page to process is User talk:GRuban). Mz7 (talk) 07:58, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty, see above. @EchidnaLives and @Mz7 have gone through a lot of these, but there may be a couple hundred left. If you can do any more it would be much appreciated. MB 14:21, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

• Just noticed this on my talk page, came here to give a friendly tip, and saw this section. I was going to offer to to an AWB run and fix it, actually, so I can try and tackle the rest of them. jp×g 02:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

  @JPxG: Thanks. (I see you started on the M's about half an hour ago) Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 03:29, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I am through them all now -- I wrote the regex to detect if there was already a closing div (and skip the page if there was), but a couple people have said they still got two closing divs. I think that if we went from a thousand messed-up pages to a dozen, it is probably still an improvement (although I can give it another shot). jp×g 03:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Nice work, JPxG! I sampled several pages and looks like we can call this issue  Fixed at this point. Mz7 (talk) 06:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

For future, I have approval from MalnadachBot Task 12 to fix Lint errors like this. You can drop them at User:MalnadachBot/Signature submissions and I will process them. I have fixed many newsletters like this. It is good practice to run Wikipedia:LINTHINT on a page once before sending a mass message. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Hang in there!

	It feels difficult right now...
	Regardless of the outcome, you've managed an unexpectedly difficult RfA with patience and reasonableness. It's clear the community writ large approves of your previous behaviors and actions. I admire the apparent calm and gentleness with which you've interacted with others during the week. BusterD (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

World oil market chronology from 2003 ‎

I was given advice to have detailed articles on a few years at a time, with a brief summary in the parent article.

There would have been no content to speak of in the 2023–2025 world oil market chronology article but it made it easier for me to start today to have one.

You wouldn't be the only one to consider deleting it, but can I feel safe in creating that now even though it currently has one paragraph?

Because it will get really, really long as information is added.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

A pie for you!

It’s too bad you won’t get to be an admin and you won’t get to delete pages or block people. How about a pie instead? Kevinwar (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I suppose it's possible that this^^^ isn't trolling the man while he's down. SN54129 17:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)