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Infobox Q

Andy, can I ask you for a favour? There has been a grumble that the text at the bottom of Template:Infobox Scottish island is too wordy. I can fix this but there is a problem with the sandbox I can't.

In this version I can see what the infobox is going to look like, which is obviously helpful when messing about. However the code is completely different from the current version of the actual infobox. When I swopped the codes we get this version, with the right code but a collapsed/invisible box. Neither option is useful but I need some help to fix this and have the current code showing what a transclusion will look like (in the sandbox only). Ben MacDui 12:25, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

@Ben MacDui: Sorry, I may be too late to answer that; but I've moved the text to a footnote, which should resolve concerns and means that you can restore the parts you recently removed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - this is a neat solution (although it is possible that some enthusiast will grumble that it is a 'Note' rather than a 'Reference' at FAC). However, the problem remains that when you amend something in the sandbox you can't see what the revised infobox looks like. Is there no way to amend the sandbox so that you can see what it looks like even if the code is not exactly as per the actual template? Ben MacDui 20:06, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

@Ben MacDui: Have you tried viewing Template:Infobox Scottish island/testcases? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:45, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

This is very helpful - and I didn't know it existed... (!) Ben MacDui 12:16, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mark Williams-Thomas

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:02, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for article, image and voice, good history, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Very well done, Andy. Looks great. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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Account creator right

Hi Pigsonthewing, do you still have need for the account creator user right? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 15:15, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes: I still regularly deliver training sessions to new editors; and run editathons and similar events which involve new editors. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for the reply. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:31, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Glasgow helicopter crash

G'day from Oz, and compliments of the season to you. I have explained myself at my Talk page if you want to have a look. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 07:45, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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Precious again

win(g) for infoboxes
Thank you for quality contributions toward "improving, standardising and rationalising templates, especially infoboxes" such as the growing {{infobox Bach composition}}, for "gently reminding ... don't own sections of Wikipedia" to freely share in the sum of all knowledge: you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were the 340th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Timeline-links

Hi Andy. I see that {{Timeline-links}} (and {{UF-timeline}}) does not appear to function and does not appear to be supported any longer. Also, the site it links to (http://siatec.net/siatec/timeline/index.php) returns a 404. I thought it polite to raise the matter here initially as you may know what exactly is going on with it. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 09:31, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. It's a pity that the siatec service is defunct; it would be good to find an alternative. Or perhaps someone might recreate it on our toolserver? The RDF link, though, still functions, so there are no grounds to say that the template "does not appear to function and does not appear to be supported any longer". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Ian Watkins

Hello, i'm coming to you with a query about Watkins page as i've noticed you've made many edits to it over the last few days, could you tell me why my edit was reverted and if there is a way to fix it maybe help me if possible, Thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ophuls20393 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

@Ophuls20393: Your edit was reverted as it cited a "self published" source (i.e. published by the subject of the article). Personally I think that may be acceptable for a statement about the subjects own views, but you'd do better to discuss that with the editor who reverted you; or raise the matter on the article's talk page. Or perhaps you could reinstate it with a citation to a neutral, third-party source? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah i see, thank you for explaining that, i can't seem to find another source at the moment but i'll keep looking, thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ophuls20393 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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	for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:33, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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A Boy was Born

Regarding your edits to A Boy Was Born there is a section on the talk page already, please make your case there rather than continuing to revert. Callanecc (talk - contribs - logs) 01:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

You appear to have neglected to castigate the editor who reverted me with a bogus claim in his edit summary. No doubt you will rectify that shortly. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 01:28, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

The editor who reverted you took it to the talk page. Callanecc (talk - contribs - logs) 02:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Would you care to address what I wrote? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 02:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Summer Leys

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Request input

There is currently a content dispute at Pink Floyd. Your input would be appreciated.

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Template:Infobox settlement and Mexico City

Hi! I notice Mexico City is now saying its ISO code is invalid in its infobox settlement. But "nah" should be the correct ISO code for Nahuatl. Do you know what's going on? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Does it not have an ISO 639-1 (two letter code)? That should work. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Nahuatl language only has 639-2 and 639-3 WhisperToMe (talk) 23:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

First case of that I've ever heard of. I suggest we ask Mr. Stradivarius to add an exception to the template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Gave him a message: User_talk:Mr._Stradivarius#Exception_needed_for_Infobox_settlement_and_Mexico_City_for_three_letter_language_codes WhisperToMe (talk) 23:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted the change to Template:Infobox settlement for now, as there are probably more pages like Mexico City out there. There are about 150 639-1 codes in existence, but there are about 6000-7000 natural languages, so you can do the math. :) What we need to do now is work out exactly what language codes we need to support. I can think of the following possibilities:

1. All of 639-1 and 639-2.
2. All of 639-1, 639-2 and 639-3.
3. All MediaWiki language codes.
4. 639-1, falling back to 639-2 if necessary.
5. 639-1, falling back to 639-2 if necessary, in turn falling back to 639-3 if necessary.

Once we know which one of these it is it shouldn't be too hard to code up, but I have a feeling that finding out which one it is might be the hard part. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 01:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've gone through and reverted all of the additions of {{Check ISO 639-1}} to infoboxes, as it looks like it was causing problems across the board. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you; and apologies for this. I was under the impression that the HTML standard specified ISO639-1, but the situation is more complex, as this paper explains. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Officeholder

All the infoboxes with zh-hk are now messed up. See Tam Yiu-chung, Miriam Lau, Albert Ho etc. Anyway you can fix it? Thanks in advance.Lmmnhn (talk) 08:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted for now, as it looks like we will need to rethink our approach. See the thread above for my thoughts on the matter. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:55, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:DENY

2013 Irkutsk Antonov An-12 crash was created by a sockpuppet of banned user Ryan kirkpatrick. It has his typical spelling mistake, bored instead of bored, and it was created by an editor who had never previously edited before. The administrator= The Bushranger has been alerted[1]. He'll make the final determination. In the meantime, don't undo the speedy deletion tag or reversions of edits done by Ryan. It is part of DENY....William 12:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

By what authority are you issuing me with instructions? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

You fail reading comprehension miserably. First you take down a CSD tag thinking its about notability when it wasn't and the reason was stated obviously, G5. You couldn't be bothered to read either WP:DENY or my edit summaries from when I originally reverted the edit to the 2013 template.

Not my authority. It is by the authority of the wikipedia community that Ryan kirkpatrick was banned from editing. As a banned editor, WP:DENY comes into effect. Any edits of his(Ryan has created over 100 sockpuppet accounts[2]. If you will stop for once and look at that last link I provided you, you'll see two other editors think this is a Ryan kirkpatrick sockpuppet too.) are vandalism, and therefore reverted. Any new articles he makes can be speedily deleted per WP:G5...William 13:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)