Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)

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File:Creation of the Sun and Moon face detail.jpg

The file commons:File:Creation of the Sun and Moon face detail.jpg, which is used on a very large number of pages (links), has been marked for nominated deletion on Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Deletion requests May 2011. Rather than notify a large number of talk pages I am raising this on WP:AN and WP:VP to obtain the right intervention.

What to do

A discussion about whether to delete the file will now take place on Commons. If you feel the deletion can be contested then please do so (commons:COM:SPEEDY has further information). Otherwise:

Check for the type of usage in articles and templates (usually infoboxes)
If the deletion of the image will cause a problem, prepare to fix it:
- Using a local redirect
- By using a different image (i.e. in an infobox)
- Contact someone at commons to delay deletion or work out a plan to overcome issues with the deletion

This notification is provided by a Bot, currently under trial --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 19:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

n.b. The deletion discussion seems like it will result in a keep. (At the time of posting.) Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Deletion requests 2011" doesn't sound like a strong reason to nominate an image for deletion ;) . ☻☻☻Sithman VIII !!☻☻☻ 09:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unbroken

The dab page Unbroken has a rating thingy at the bottom. Explain to me why a dab page would need to be rated. Can someone remove this? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 16:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just went to it and the rating thingy wasn't there. GB fan (talk) 19:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's there for me. mw:Article feedback/FAQ#Where is it being rolled out? says: "The Article Feedback Tool is currently deployed on approximately 100,000 randomly selected articles on the English Wikipedia". This includes disambiguation pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish Wikipedia sucks

I need help, Is there any global council for injustice in Wikimedia? I was a veteran wikipedian user with 4 years in spanish wikipedia. I have blocked for 6 months in Wikipedia by a dictatorial group that they control everything from year ago. Spanish wikipedia has a problem. We need help! Jimbo Wales! Someone for stop that injustice please!! Thor8 (talk) 19:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do they have an ArbCom? English Wikipedia has no jurisdiction over Spanish Wikipedia. The talk page over there is es:Usuario Discusión:Thor8. Fences&Windows 20:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You know, calling people things like "dictatorial" was one of the reasons you were blocked, I think, along with edit warring over calling the Libyan conflict a rebellion or a civil war. I can answer my own query about an ArbCom: they shut down their es:Wikipedia:Comité de Resolución de Conflictos. Fences&Windows 20:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The CRC doesn't exist now. I asked for something in Wikimedia not in enwiki. We need a interwikis Justice council, it's incredible the political machine in spanish wikipedia. There is even a blog where is reported each abuse: Desenredando la maraña Very important the resume of the first post: Una entrada para el wikicirco:

I translate the first paragraph: "That the Spanish Wikipedia is in the grip of a mafia is a secret that is spoken everywhere but not in our own Wikipedia. Many people have abandoned the project, tired of the corruption of a system that, far from the enlightened principles that should support it, has ended up becoming a social club where there is more despicable political machine". Thor8 (talk) 10:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You may contact Jimbo at User talk:Jimbo Wales, wikimedia-wide topics are discussed at Meta. I'm aware of your concerns, I had been a regular editor there until a year and half ago: an admin insulted me, I reported it, and got indefinitely blocked for reporting the insult. And, in the time I had been there, I noticed plenty of abuses and arbitrary actions.

However, I never asked for support at those places, and I don't advise you to try it. The relation of wikimedia projects is similar to a Federation, each project has its own self-governance, and the Foundation has the right to bypass it and impose office action, but rarely does so, and hardly for a project-specific concern. To report admins there, you should find a really gross violation of the Founding principles (and a single block can hardly be so). And, of course, do so with evidence in hand (diffs, archives, etc.), a blog written by yourself does not prove anything, even if it "says the truth". Cambalachero (talk) 22:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up of WP:Village pump (proposals)/Proposal to require autoconfirmed status in order to create articles

A draft of how to run the trial is now located here. Crossposting from WP:VPR. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"gay date"

This user [1] said he is an adm on Wiki-en. Is this true? He was looking for a "gay date" on Wiki in portuguese language. What is this?? If he is, I want his sysop tools removed NOW for bad behaviour. (Wiki-pt main page talk section is not an AOL sex room) MachoCarioca (talk) 05:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would bet money that is not, but instead somebody who is impersonating him. –MuZemike 08:19, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a sock puppet of Porgers (talk · contribs), as Polocka8 (talk · contribs) has already been blocked here. –MuZemike 08:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Board of Trustees Election, 2011 - do I have the right to vote?

I may give away my ignorance in this question, and perhaps this is the wrong place to ask, but I will place the question here all the same. I was given the notice "The Wikimedia Board of Trustees election has started. Please vote", and I would like to participate and place my vote. However, when I was ready to place my vote, I realised that the voting was taken place at wikimedia, not wikipedia, where I have no account. Do I have the right to place my vote? I assume that a notice about the election would not have been sent to me otherwise? I have no account on wikimedia, which may disqualify me. Forgive me if I seem ignorant - I have been a member of wikipedia for several years but I have mainly been active in editing rather than taking part in the other sides of the project. Thank you in advance! --Aciram (talk) 21:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This says the requirements to vote (you seem to meet the requirements). You probably want to unify your account globally so your username can be used on any Wikimedia wiki. Killiondude (talk) 23:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much!--Aciram (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-indexed articles

Can someone please go through the lists of articles with Template:NOINDEX transcluded in them and determine (on a case-by-case basis) which of those articles should be indexed? I've already removed Template:NOINDEX from the following:

I attempted to remove the template from more articles, but I reverted myself, since I felt that the decision belonged to more knowledgeable users. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 03:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it has any effect on it; I thought NOINDEX was disabled for articlespace, so removing the templates won't do anything. I could be wrong, but I think the devs intentionally didn't allow noindexing in mainspace. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Template:NOINDEX says: "__NOINDEX__ is disabled in article space and this template consequently has no effect there." Some userspace drafts use {{NOINDEX}} and don't remove it after a move to mainspace, but it doesn't matter. If you get your browser to view the html source of Inatel then you can confirm it doesn't contain "noindex" while for example User:Blades/HardwareWiki contains <meta name="robots" content="noindex,follow" />. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize that. Sorry. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. Now we can remove a useless (in mainspace) template from articles. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just took care of it myself; just got AWB access earlier today, so it was neat to test it out a bit before doing something that could have a more significant impact. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい)

Calling attention to an AfD discussion

I'm participating in a discussion about whether or not to delete this article, and it's pretty off-putting to see how little participation there has been. Hopefully some more editors will come and weigh in. Thanks! Hermione is a dude (talk) 09:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Admin abuse.

Re http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:212.219.249.5 the year long ban of all public computers in a city for no real reason.

Does anyone know why User:Syrthiss is claiming to be the chief Administrator for The Wikipedia? I can find nothing about this on his User page. See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Syrthiss. Ansotu (talk) 17:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see no such claim on their use page. – ukexpat (talk) 17:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Create an account, it has many benefits. – ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Re the situation I talked of. As stated on that page the Administrator/s concerned blocked the opening of new accounts. That is part of the matter I am raising. Ansotu (talk) 18:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are over 1000 Administrators. Syrthiss is one of them. (I think you just misunderstood "Administrator".) Rd232 ^talk 17:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I did not misunderstand "Administrator". A call was made for an un-block due to the block being excessive. One year for no real reason. The call, or "appeal against the block" in Wikipedia jargon, asked for the block to be reviewed by responsible administrators and for a general review by the same. Syrthiss came into the situation and acted like his word was law on behalf of the whole wikipedia. He didn't explain who he was or what 'authority' he had for his comments. When he didn't bother to understand the request in the appeal, and just posted abuse. Hence my airing it to the community. Ansotu (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uninvolved Editor Looking at the previous warnings and their extent I feel that this block is slightly over the top, but still in principle justified. IP editor's semi-familiarity with en.WP policies and tools leads me to believe that a sock or block evading user has used this access vector to spew their uncivil attacks. Hasteur (talk) 19:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As one of the administrators I am trusted by the community to respond to unblock requests and make decisions on those unblocks. We don't need any community review of simple blocking situations like this, though you as the IP are welcome to post another unblock request at that page if you feel my answer wasn't sufficient. If you're just looking for someone to be mad at, I'm happy to take the focus away from the original blocking admin. Glad to see you took my advice and made an account. Happy editing! Syrthiss (talk) 11:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

V.M.F. 113

While going through an old box of my father-in-law I found a photo of the group from vmf 113 Capt Loren D. Everton Commanding May 8, 1943. I am interested to know if there is anyone out there who might want a copy of this picture or maybe I can figure out how to put it on the computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdajg (talk • contribs) 01:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you are now the owner of these possessions, Commons], our sister project and host for all our freely-licensed images, would love for you to upload a copy under a suitable license. These images are part of our history and they would be more then happy to have them I suspect. -- ۩ Mask 08:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw this

Sinaia hasn't had a single reference in a while, and has been tagged as unreffed for over two years. Is there any sort of organized citing effort for ancient unreffed tags? -- ۩ Mask 08:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not really, it is the biggest backlog we have, with some 250.000 articles tagged, dating as far back as July 2006. You might be interested in wp:URBLP though, which has almost cleaned out the backlog of unreferenced BLPs (some 40.000 articles) in the last year and a half. Yoenit (talk) 08:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing this, I cited both of the oldest ones (July 2006). Island Monkey ^{talk the talk} 17:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that actually meant sourcing approximately 60,000 articles, though I may be wrong. My 60 odd pale in comparison (0.1%). Huge respect for people who do this on topics they do not even like. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 19:46, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Santorum (neologism) RfC

Uninvolved eyes would be much appreciated at Talk:Santorum (neologism)#Proposal to rename, redirect, and merge content. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 16:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maps, Maps, Maps ! Call for mapmakers !

Is there some graphists ? Users loving to draw ? There is a Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop and a Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop. in need of creators. Most maps requests don't get need comments and a graphist. These place are some kind of graphic forum and school : we receive requests, discuss about them, share /Graphic & Map tutorials, a learn on the way. We need graphists to come, inject fresh knowledge, and help around on the Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop. People interested, please come ! Map making is a specific skill, almost easy to do, while maps, or relate technical diagrams are wonderful tools to explain and illustrate articles and knowledges. Inkscape (Download!) is a nice free software to create SVG maps. So come, come, come, and do what you like ! : ] --Yug (talk) 04:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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	Conventions set	Location maps and US locations Locator maps (from SVG locator maps, 2012) Gradient maps Topographic maps Exchanges maps Orthographic maps
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