Talk:Chinese Taipei national football team

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When did the ROC start playing in international matches? According to China national football team its first match was 1913, instead of 1949. When did the ROC start playing as "Taiwan", and when as "Chinese Taipei"? Thanks. — Instantnood 19:29 Mar 7 2005 (UTC)

kit?[edit]

where can i find a chinese taipei kit, im in desperate need of one...

The home jersey is available only in CTFA (photo and announcement: http://www.ctfa.com.tw/news.asp?category=A&news_id=521). And there's no way to buy away jersey now. -- scchiang 18:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Kits...[edit]

Both the German and French Wikipedia sites say that the home kits are in full blue and the away kits are in full white. However, the FIFA Webpage on the Chinese Taipei team says: Jerseys: blue. Shorts: blue. Socks: white. I'm guessing they're talking about the home kit, but I'm going to do the same as the German and French Wikipedia (home: full blue and away: full white). Someone please correct it if it's wrong. Thanks.

Capitalized last names?[edit]

Hmm...I'm not sure if the last names of the players should be capitalized or not. After all, the real form of their last name isn't capitalized. What do you you guys think? -- Asdf1248 05:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary to capitalize players' family names. Both Korea Republic and Hong Kong do not capitalize them either. -- scchiang 03:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Well i capitalized them according to the following page: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9958069&postcount=11 -- Chinesetaipei 14:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Meh...their "real" transliterated last name isn't in capital letters. Like...when you write, say, a letter to them in English, you don't say, "Dear LU Kun-Chi,..." -- Asdf1248 14:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the reason they put in caps for last names is to distinguish first name from last name cuz the Chinese/Taiwanese usually put the surname FIRST -- Chinesetaipei 14:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't think people really care about their last names. Shirt names may be more important. -- scchiang 07:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Nikename[edit]

I was a little surprised to see Chunghua Team becomes the team's nickname. I thought it's only a short name for Chinese Taipei. -- scchiang 03:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

um i thought the short name can also be the team's nickname...? maybe im wrong... -- Chinesetaipei 14:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I checked the national football team pages of some other countries, most of them use colors (e.g. France, Italy), animals (e.g. England, South Korea, Serbia), or meaningful symbols (e.g. Spain, Israel) as nickname. Another problem is Chunghua Team could refer to every national team of Taiwan, such as baseball, volleyball, etc. I don't think it's good to be the nickname. -- scchiang 06:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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EAFC (East Asian Cup) 2008 lineups[edit]

Does anyone know the lineups of Chinese Taipei in EAFC 2008 preliminary competition against Guam and Hong Kong? I cannot find that info on the Internet, so I did not update the "caps" of each player. (But I updated the "goals" according to news reports.) --scchiang 13:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

China - international football[edit]

Can anyone help me disentangle the official status of the various matches involving the China national football team prior to 1948. I am slowly building the List of first association football internationals per country and have had some problems identifying the first "official" match for each particular country; hopefully, I've got it right so far. But I am hitting a wall with the Chinese. The article for the China PR national football team (People's Republic) lists their first match as taking place on 1 February 1913, with an alternative as 4 August 1952, whereas the article for Chinese Taipei national football team (Taiwan) also claims the 1 February 1913 match, with an alternative of 1 May 1954.

For Taiwan I have gone with the latter but for the People's Republic I have gone with the Olympic Games match on 2 August 1948, as per the RSSSF article[1]. RSSSF list three matches played in Hong Kong in 1949, 1950 and 1953 between "China" and South Korea which don't seem to have official status. The ELO website (which shows how the FIFA rankings are arrived at) lists the first Taiwan match as that on 1 May 1954[2] but for the People's Republic it shows all the matches from February 1913[3].

RSSSF does not list any of the "pre-war" matches for either country and for the earlier matches (from 1913 to 1921) in the Far Eastern Games, says that China was represented by a club side, South China A.A..[4]. China also played in the 1936 Olympics; and the FIFA match summary shows them as "China PR".[5]

Another website[6] lists all the matches from 1913, but attributes those up to 1927 as  Republic of China, those from 1930 to 1949 as  Republic of China Including both the 1936 and 1948 Olympic Games matches) with the first  China PR match as being that on 4 August 1952.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

China - international football[edit]

The case with "China" is similar with "Ireland" before. For Ireland, the initial governing body is IFA (Irish Football Association) which based in Belfast, but select its players from both sides of the border. During the Home Nations exclusion from FIFA events, the rival governing body FAI (Football Association of Ireland) which based in Dublin, claimed as representation for the island. After FIFA acknowledgement of the Home Nations FAs, both associations keep selecting all Irish players from both Northern Ireland and Ireland proper. (see World Cup 1950 and 1954 Qualification).

Only after FIFA intervention in 1953, IFA would only select Belfast (or Northern) players and FAI only select Dublin (or Southern) players.

Founded in 1924, the only governing body for China is Chinese Football Association (ZhongHua MingGuo ZuQiu XieHui/Traditional Chinese: 中華民國足球協會), based in Nanjing, southern part of China. The squad for 1936 Summer Olympic football tournament were selected from a Hong Kong based, South China AA and strengthened with several players from other Southern Chinese region and two players from South East Asia (one was Chinese Singaporean and one was Chinese Indonesian).

After the nationalist defeat, the governing body maintain its name but relocated to Taipei, Taiwan. Yet it still claims the jurisdiction on all Greater China.

The northern communist government founded the rival Football Association of the People's Republic of China/Chinese Football Association (ZhongGuo ZuQiu XieHui/Traditional Chinese: 中國足球協會), based in Beijing, northern part of China. The English name for the Beijing based organization is same with the Taipei based organization, but the Chinese name is different, "Guo" refer to the Chinese as a nation/state, while "Hua" refer to the Chinese as a culture.

Initially, FIFA and AFC only acknowledge Taipei based organization. Mr. Lee Hui-Tang is a Hong Kong born Chinese who represents China in 1936 Summer Olympic up until the war ends and the Taipei organization as FIFA vice president after the war.

But after 1974, the wind changed and the Beijing based organization considered as representation of China proper, and the Taipei organization later ejected from AFC and FIFA memberships. Only later back as an OFC member and back to AFC with a new name CTFA, but retained the original name in Chinese.

So, the original Chinese Football Association is the CTFA (Nanjing/Taipei organization), but after a while a new organization CFA (Beijing based) usurps its position in China proper. In brief, the representation of China in international competitions, before 1974 World Cup qualification. 1936 Summer Olympic -> Nanjing organization (majority players based in Hong Kong) 1948 Summer Olympic -> Nanjing organization (majority players based in Hong Kong) 1954 World Cup qualification -> Taipei organization (withdraw after seeding, no team selected) 1956 Asian Cup -> Taipei organization 1958 World Cup qualification -> both organization admitted, (Taipei organization withdraw after seeding, no team selected). Beijing organization actually fielded a team. 1960 Asian Cup -> Taipei organization 1968 Asian Cup -> Taipei organization

To make things more complicated, both organization claims the pre-war achievements of China as theirs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cumi2got (talkcontribs) 10:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Flag Icon[edit]

Chinese Taipei national football team use Flag of Chinese Taipei for Olympic games.svgOlympics flag in international events. Examples:

The present flag icon on FIFA website is Olympics flag, too.--Jitcji (talk) 08:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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