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"the term gymkhana is commonly used.yeehah" I believe the yeehaa is vandalism, so I've removed it. - 10:51, 19 June 2006

"students were naked"[edit]

I don't understand that... should be cleared up: Physical education was considered at least as important as learning, and the fact that the students were naked (gymnos in Greek) when performing bodily exercises explains the use of the word in the United Kingdom and the United States.

IMHO, the fact that the students were naked doesn't justify using that word nowadays...

SebastianBreier 16:20, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I changed it a bit to clear things up. I think it's more understandable now.

SebastianBreier 19:20, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I have made this as ultra clear now Monkeyblue 11:43, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


ThobekilebigP (talk) 14:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

pronounced "gime"[edit]

Gym (pronounced gime)

I would change this to use SAMPA, but I'm not sure what it's trying to say. Everyone I've ever heard pronounces the word the same way as the name "Jim", and I can't see how you could spell that "gime". Do some people pronounce it differently? Marnanel 01:54, May 20, 2004 (UTC)

Homer Simpson read it as Gime in one episode of The Simpsons. That is the only time I have ever heard it pronounced that way. Matthew238 02:58, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Today's usage[edit]

What about more information on the common usage of the word gym (like Gold's Gym, where people go to workout. What equipment do they have, are they franchises or chains etc.?

Yes. Today's most common usage of the word "Gym" is pretty much the same as Health club. The current article does not reflect this at all. One solution might be to move it to "Gymnasium" (discussed below). -- Harry Wood (talk) 23:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

add anything to this article?[edit]

I install, sand, gameline, and finish gym floors. I am, however, at a loss on how I could add anything to this article.--pahsons 19:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Health Club Chains[edit]

I am trying to determine why so few health club chains are included. I see Gold's Gym, World Gym, and Bally Total Fitness page, but I do not see a New York Sports Club[1], LA Fitness[2], Powerhouse Gym[3] Crunch[4], Equinox[5], New York Health & Racquet Club[6] or David Barton[7]. The 24 Hour Fitness page is under copyright violation suspension. I had been considering posting a page for The Buffalo Athletic Center[8] (erected 1924), but since these much more well known clubs are not yet included, I was hesitant. TonyTheTiger 18:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


Some how I don't think "Gyms are a place were alpha males fuck hot chicks." is NPOV.

I believe that in the first paragraph "Ancient Grease" should read "Ancient Greece". — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

"Cast in the name of God, ye not guilty" 02:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

History section contains irrevelent information[edit]

The word "Gymnasium" in Germany refers to the school type which gives you the university entrance qualification (called "Abitur"). So you have four years elementary school ("Grundschule") and then either "Hauptschule" with 5-6 years, "Realschule" with 6 years or "Gymnasium" with 7-8 years depending on the "Bundesland" (state).

There is a seperate article for that meaning of gymnasium. I think this section should be removed. And maybe the whole history section should be rewritten?

--unnamedculprit 14:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, because there is a separate article - Gymnasium (school)- I referenced it in the article and removed the disputed material under History. soverman 02:41 10 July 2007 (UTC)


I removed the link to the disambiguation page, since that page now points the Gyms in other Countries heading. It would be nice if there was an actual page on the original gymkhana written by someone knowledgeable about Indian culture. PerlKnitter 20:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

i think everything is right

Page move[edit]

I propose a move from this article to "Gymnasium" (currently a redirect here) as the subject matter here mainly deals with the physical aspects of a gymnasium. We could have this page redirecting to either Health club or Gymnasium (with a link at the top to the other article). It would make it easier to write about the fitness center type and the physical aspects in separate articles. If it sounds confusing, I apologize --Ben 13:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


  1. Support per my comments above --Ben 13:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support (talk) 08:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
  3. Support - good idea. --David Shankbone 08:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
  4. Support - I say we either do this move, or add info similar to Health club to reflect the most common use of the word "Gym" -- Harry Wood (talk) 23:05, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  5. Support I agree. This article should be moved to Health ClubYamum49 (talk) 20:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Opposed, page not moved  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:30, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

GymGymnasium — Page describes "Gymnasium". Although originally a straightforward abbreviation, today "Gym" is more often used to mean Health club -- Harry Wood (talk) 12:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

So there's a list of people who supported this move above. But I don't feel all that strongly that a move is the right way to solve this. The 'dab hatnote' AjaxSmack added certainly helps, but I still think we need to somehow reconcile the fact that this page does not reflect the most widely used interpretation (in english speaking countries such as the U.S. and U.K.) of the word "Gym". Maybe if we bring in some information from the Health Club page in a section at the top? Currently I look at the article and think "none of this is talking about what a gym is"-- Harry Wood (talk) 10:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Green gyms[edit]

perhaps green gyms as green microgym can be mentioned and their devices too (eg pedal-a-watt), ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Sociology in gyms[edit]

I found the history of gymnasiums dating back to Ancient Greece interesting. I would like to add content about the sociology in gymnasiums from different eras if possible. I would also like to add a section of different jobs in a gym like personal trainers, management, maintenance, etc. I have found some information from reading Introduction to Physical Education, Exercise Science, and Sport Studies 9th Edition on Spartans that I would like to add.Dominiquejrivera (talk) 14:29, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2016[edit]

Removeal of this section, it is pure opinion and not fact. (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done- the page was semi-protected to prevent you repeatedly deleting the "Gender" section, which has five reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 19:50, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Two of these 'reliable sources' are just citation needed tags and one is a thesis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7BB7:7A00:58C3:9BA2:3F28:65B7 (talk) 20:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Besides that, the grammar and punctuation is subpar, there are several different topics that should have their own sections all lumped into one, and certain parts of the article are more opinion than objective fact about gyms. (talk) 20:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Pretty much the entirety of the 'Gender','Gym Interactions' and 'Supplements' sections are unsourced nonsense, and just seems like the authors perception of 'gym culture' more than anything based in reality. (talk) 21:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

While the current article would have you believe gym culture is based on the pursuit of vanity, and is pushed for by evil corporations making people insecure, a different source[1] will show a more accurate picture of the development of American fitness culture, without the blatant bias that the writers of the current article express against said culture. (talk) 21:15, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

The article as it is makes some highly questionable claims. For example: "Regarding exercise women find aerobics makes them feel inadequate and view weightlifting as a masculine activity" This is a blanket statement, it is missing a comma, and as far as I have seen it is untrue. Another one: "some gym goers’ entire purpose for entering a gym setting is to focus on physiological improvement. These kinds of patrons allow themselves to become absorbed by the activity. They can often be distinguished from others by certain characteristics, such as, grunting, intense looks in the mirror, perfuse sweating, etc. All these actions are to reinforce the message that 'I am working out'". This is bizarre and also untrue. Are we meant to believe that people in the gym intentionally sweat to signal to others that they are working out? It should just say that some people just go to the gym to exercise. But that is not even necessary since that is a gym's purpose. So what's the point in that section? Also, in another part, "threating" should read "threatening", no? (talk) 23:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

It's a useless part of the article. Wikipedia is not a playground for humanities students to post their research projects, or parrot what they've heard in class. Should we have a section on how race relations in gyms in the 1980s? If I cite enough "reliable" sources, could I post whatever the hell I wanted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:02, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2016[edit]

What the fuck is this gender section? Did some liberal sociology student get their hands on what's supposed to be a page of information on gyms not retarded gender politics (talk) 23:35, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 01:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Remove the section about Gender — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2016[edit]

Under interactions it refers to sweating profusely as an action taken to show that "I am working out". This should be removed or reworded as one does not control sweating actively, it is rather a byproduct of having a raised body temperature. (talk) 00:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done This page is no longer protected - you can edit it directly. — xaosflux Talk 04:19, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2016[edit]

Gyms have no gender.... 2600:8803:8800:1C6:580A:ABCC:11C0:446C (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done This page is no longer protected - you can edit it directly. — xaosflux Talk 04:20, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2016[edit]

The page on "Gymnasiums" should have nothing to do with genders or politics. The subsection on "Gender" has no place in this article and should be removed. The "Gym interactions" subsection is also heavily biased and should either be removed or overhauled. Once again, this is an article on "Gyms" not "Meatheads" or gender. Lyb1997 (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done This page is no longer protected - you can edit it directly. — xaosflux Talk 04:20, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Ancient Persia?[edit]

"The first gymnasiums in history can be dated to over 3000 years ago in ancient Persia, where they were known as zurkhaneh, areas that encouraged physical fitness."

First, there was no "ancient Persia" over 3000 years ago. The various Iranian tribes that eventually became Persians and other groups only started to emerge out of obscurity and settle in what became Persia in the centuries after c. 1000 BCE. The next question is whether there is any evidence of a "zurkhaneh" even at that time. A claim of this kind need good sourcing. It now has none. (The rest of the paragraph, about Rome and Germany, is probably more or less correct but also needs references.) --Hegvald (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

There is also an article on Pahlevani and zoorkhaneh rituals. It used to contain a claim that they were 4000 (!) years old, removed by Dbachmann over ten years ago. He also commented on the issue on the talk page. --Hegvald (talk) 15:45, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
    • ^ McKENZIE, SHELLY. “Front Matter.” Getting Physical: The Rise of Fitness Culture in America, University Press of Kansas, 2013, pp. i-iv,