Talk:Joe Hall (American football)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 18:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that football player Joe Hall, whose position was running back, weighed up to 340 pounds (150 kg) during his career? Source: Janssen, Mark (November 18, 2001). "Let's all hope Hall speaks the truth". The Manhattan Mercury. p. 11, 13 – via Newspapers.com. ("Of his weight that busted through the 300-barrier quicker than one can say, 'Big Mac, Whopper, Wendy's-triple ... and add a pizza, too,' Hall became a 340-pounder this past summer. Today, he only says, 'A lot,' when asked about his weight.")
  • ALT1: ... that despite having never played football before, Joe Hall was able to convince his high school junior varsity coach to let him play and scored 35 touchdowns? Source: Courtney, Will (December 3, 1998). "He's one Hall of a load". North County Times. p. 25, 29 – via Newspapers.com. ("He had never played football before his freshman year of high school, but convinced the coaches to let him play running back and promptly scored 35 touchdowns for the junior varsity, with hardly a cutback or a juke")
  • ALT2: ... that football player Joe Hall was described as "the largest running back to ever rush for 100 yards in an NCAA game"? Source: "Joe Hall". Palomar College. ("Sports Illustrated identified him as 'the largest running back to ever rush for 100 yards in an NCAA game,' a fete he accomplished four times as a speedy, athletic 6-foot-2, 320-pounder during his junior season...")
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sandra Dombrowski
  • Comment: This one was fun. I found a declined COI draft in poor shape from several months ago, and spent three days turning it into a decent c-class article. I'll try to get a qpq soon.

Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC).

• ALT0a: ... that football player Joe Hall, whose position was running back, weighed 340 pounds (150 kg) at one point during his career?

• @BeanieFan11: New enough, long enough, well referenced, no concerns on Earwig. All three hooks are interesting and sourced; I prefer the first two. I've added a {{convert}} template to the first hook for those of us who don't use pounds. I have also reworded it slightly as ALT0a but either could be used. Just waiting on a QPQ. 97198 (talk) 07:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  • @97198: I've reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Sandra Dombrowski as a QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
    • 97198 (talk) 21:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Joe Hall (American football)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 06:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (No original research): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Notes

• Added the Commons cat
• Where did you get Jr from in his name?
  • I was thinking that if his son was Joe Hall III, then he would have had to have been Jr. – but I just noticed that his personal website is "joehalljr.com" so that confirms it.
• How did you come up with the weight range in the infobox? PFA says 300. That seems reasonable.
  • I think I was taking the lowest he weighed during his career and the highest, but I changed it to 300.
• If we're breaking up the colleges in the infobox on two separate lines, we might as well add the years to each college
  • Done.
• "Weighing 265 pounds by high school" I don't see where in that clipping it says 265 lbs
  • "He played tailback and power forward at 265 pounds in high school"
    • That's not the ref that is cited in the article. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
      • The source is: Whitlock, Jason (July 23, 2003). "It's hard to ignore Joe Hall". The Kansas City Star. p. 77, 82 – via Newspapers.com. – after p. 77, you have to click on the link that says 82. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
• "at Artesia HS" spell out high school
  • Done.
• Change to first team all american in infobox?
  • Done.
• "but then at the last minute the University" comma after minute
  • Done.
• "Upon returning to the Chiefs, he was placed on the injured reserve list, where he spent the entire season" that source doesnt say he spent the whole season
  • You're right, changed.
• "the Oakland Raiders, his final team,[1] in 2006, spending the season on injured reserve" I don't see on either one of those sources where it says injured reserve
  • This one is the transactions where it says that he was placed on IR (right side, second team).
    • That still doesn't say he spent the whole season on IR. According to this, it looks like he was released? WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:22, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
      • @WikiOriginal-9: Good find! Yep, it looks like he was then released. I added that to the article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:36, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
• I guess you couldn't find date spans for his coaching career?
  • Wasn't able to.
• "including Joe III" that's a lot of commas for that sentence but I suggest a comma after Joe III
  • Added.

That's all I think. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 06:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

• Starting to get to these... And thank you very much for your reviews! BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:18, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
  • @WikiOriginal-9: BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
    • All points have been addressed. Passing the article. Nice work!. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:44, 19 October 2023 (UTC)