Talk:Rothschild family

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Putting a number on the family wealth[edit]

Editors have been determined to insert gossipy and contradictory figures into the lead on the current total wealth of the family, which, I'm pretty sure, is not actually public knowledge at all (if anyone has actually counted). Refs have finally appeared, to a NY tabloid and a website that is certainly not a WP:RS. if we are going to say anything it should have much better refs, and probably be much more vague. Johnbod (talk)

Agreed. Pls find hereafter a source that meets WP:RS (i.e. The Independent (U.K.)

"The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty". The Independent. Archived from the original on 15 January 2006. But in another way it marks out the continuation of an even older tradition - the ability of the family which has founded one of the world's largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family. 

PS: Silly me, Bill Gates isn't among the richest men on earth? 47.17.27.189 (talk) 11:00, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

"industry insiders count..." ie this is gossip. The extended family must now number over 1,000 people, most of whom have probably never met, and I very much doubt that any person or group of people have the information to make an assessment that is worth us recording. Johnbod (talk) 13:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Not "gossip", reliable source as per WP:RS. These people have apologists all over... 47.17.27.189 (talk) 03:50, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
We can access Donald Trumps financial information other than what he tells us verbally and he's one guy in a country with strict income reporting laws. It is virtually impossible to guess with any amount of accuracy what the net worth of a huge extended family of millionaires and billionaires with branches all around the world could possibly be worth. It could be a few hundred billion. It could be trillions. All we could really do is add up what has been reported on each known member and maybe take a wild guess at the rest. It's not like they publish an annual report on their assets and income. As big as the family is it may very well be in the trillions. My guess, and it's a very uneducated one admittedly, is that it is about three trillion. But that is shared among over a thousand individuals. Compare that to the Walton family worth about 130 billion. But I digress. My point is that in a case of such a huge family with such diverse and massive holdings kept in such a secretive manner, it is impossible for there to exist any reliable source on the topic of what they are worth. I would venture to guess that most of them don't know what they are worth themselves let alone what each other is worth. I would venture to guess that it is not possible for any source to know what they are worth, not even a rough estimate. All anyone could do is guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.191.251.196 (talk) 03:19, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
You can also ask insiders, like in the above linked article (WP:RS: The Independent (UK)). Also this family has notably holding companies in Holland and Switzerland who manage the bulk of the dynasty's fortune (not just for one family). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.17.16.137 (talk) 17:33, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

One problem which has always existed in relation to the Rothschild bank is that they represented a much larger collectively wealthier group of investors. If there was a problem in prompt payment the Rothschilds would make themselves heard but the actual holders of the bond issue would be their clients not themselves. Historian and Rothschild descendant Anka Muhlstein in her book "James Rothschild" says she believes that at the time of the post Napoleonic treaty of Versailles they were fronting for an anonymous major client. A better explanation than The Independent of the amount of money managed by the Rothschilds can be found in Joseph Wechsler's "The Merchant Bankers" published in 1966.140.247.136.175 (talk) 20:48, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Money Coming From British Colonial Crimes[edit]

The article doesn't reflect on how the fortune had been created in the 19th century and how close the relatioship to corrupted British government officials and British colonial criminals had been. This should be included in the text. --178.10.210.17 (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Antisemitism? Everywhere?[edit]

The writer is more like talking about his personal opinion in the conspiracy theories section. Better say: The family was accused of something by etc, while others consider these accusations to have arisen from anti-Semitic prejudice. Giving many cites won't make this flawless, since most of conspiracy theories regarding the Rothschild Family in the 21st century have nothing to do with anti-Semitism but rather Capitalism and the banking system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.255.198.29 (talk) 18:00, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

A small edit about the "conspiracy theories"[edit]

This family as mentioned on the page itself is a very large banking family. Rich people are a target for conspiracy theories I highly doubt people are on them just because they're Jewish. I understand you guys just want to keep this page unbiased but renouncing all criticism as antisemitic is a biased thing to do.

Jeffery McJeff Jefferson (talk) 13:50, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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