Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (character)

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Former good articleSonic the Hedgehog (character) was one of the Video games good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 9, 2005WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
August 26, 2005Peer reviewReviewed
December 8, 2005Good article nomineeNot listed
April 7, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
June 21, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
August 27, 2006Good article nomineeListed
September 24, 2006Featured article candidateNot promoted
May 9, 2008Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article
edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Sonic the Hedgehog (character):

These tasks can be addressed in any order:

Prose

  • Focus article on the character Sonic, and his creation and evolution. Reduce discussion about the games in general
  • Edit sections from an out-of-universe perspective where possible.
  • Copyedit sentences with redundant words. (See: How to satisfy Criterion 1a)
  • Replace references to concept-mobius and ghz with suitable (quoted) references using {{cite video game}} where possible.
  • Remove fancrufty comments about speculation and fan tastes. (e.g. is Shadow or Metal Sonic more popular, etc.)
  • Remove original research. (Metal Sonic's current location, reasons behind talking, etc.)
  • Reformat external links in the text as footnote references.
  • Clean up the article to use the same person, in particular, do not intermix you/we.
  • Use the dash guidlines consistently.
  • Use consistent punctuation.
  • Remove pointless lists.
  • All plot should be written in present tense.
  • Add overall article template for all Sonic character articles for uniformity
  • Remove the fact that he is uninterested in martial proposals from Amy Rose. You never know...

Images

  • NB: Try to make sure that downsized transparent PNGs do not have a black background in IE.


Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2018[edit]

Can I edit Sonic the Hedgehog (character) article? 82.29.68.46 (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. L293D ( • ) 20:23, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Infobox Image[edit]

I believe sometime ago I've uploaded File:Sonic modern and classic designs.png to the infobox as a means to satisfy Wikipedia's minimum-use standard for including non-free content. What is the need for File:Sonic 1991.png and a modern 3D design as separate images? « Ryūkotsusei » 17:56, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't see one. If you're referring to the image that's supposedly Smash Bros Ultimate, it's a fine image, but not an improvement to replace your dual modern/classic image. If you aren't, then I think it falls into the same issue too. Sergecross73 msg me 19:13, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I was referring to to that one: File:Sonic SSBU.png. [1]. « Ryūkotsusei » 13:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

The problem with the Sonic Generations artwork is that the concept implies there are two Sonic the Hedgehog characters, when there is only one and has only been one since 1991. Having any artwork from any of the games is a better idea than having the dual persona nonsense from Generations. Please understand that the creative team behind Generations has nothing to do with the creation of Sonic from his inception, and that he's far better represented as one single character with really any arbitrary design. Please reply or I'll revert again. Gappy (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you're giving the typical reader enough credit here. They're pretty obviously two relatively small variants of the same character. I've never witnessed a single person, Wikipedia, internet, or in person, who was confused by this. Additionally, as long as Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania are the two most recent major entries, it makes even more sense to use the dual image. Conversely, promo art from Sonic 3 isn't an optimal choice at all. It's over two decades old and not one of the titles they've re-released predominantly in recent years. That does not aid the reader in recognizing the character at all. Sergecross73 msg me 01:46, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm not necessarily arguing for the Sonic 3 image, any image that shows him as one character will suffice. I disagree with the notion that you don't see people confused by it as all I ever see in the fandom and in the public eye is that there is a younger and older Sonic and that isn't the case at all. That's why the Generations depiction is so fallacious, it implies there are two versions of the same character when there are actually several different designs, let alone the two presented in Gens, that all represent the same one character. Look at the Mario infobox image. We do not need to show that there are "classic" and "modern" designs because he is one character who's appeared in so many different incarnations that it would be fundamentally redundant.
Don't go for the Sonic 3 image. Go for anything, just don't depict Sonic as two different characters is what I'm arguing for. --Gappy (talk) 02:46, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I also don't see an issue with showing the two distinct designs of the same character. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:52, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Indeed. The westernization of Sonic's design was a big deal[2] and Sega currently releases media with pre and post-westernization artwork. « Ryūkotsusei » 05:38, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Can you link to any specific instance of this issue ever occurring? I've been maintaining Sonic related articles for coming up on a decade, and I don't recall this ever coming up. Sergecross73 msg me 02:54, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018[edit]

Don't use cosplay imsages on Sonic the Hedgehog (character) article, please? 82.29.68.46 (talk) 16:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 16:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
It's a part of the series legacy, why shouldn't it belong? Perhaps a better quality cosplay? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:54, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm fine with it personally. I don't like it when people are clearly doing it more to promote their own cosplaying works, but you can't even see the actual person in this image, so I don't see that as the case here. I'm not opposed to finding a different/better one, but I see no issue with this one being here in the meantime. Sergecross73 msg me 13:05, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2018[edit]

Is Ben Schwartz replacing Roger Craig Smith? 82.29.68.46 (talk) 02:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 03:14, 9 August 2018 (UTC)