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Needs a picture. I leave this message on many pages so I would appreciate if someone would teach me 1) how to upload a picture and 2) how to put a picture on a page. Thanks. Redwolf24 (Talk)03:48, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No mention of "Livin' in the USA"? I'd think that song would be notable for its content; anyone care to write a few words about it in the article? --ILike2BeAnonymous 08:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Somebody get me a cheeseburger?" :) JubalHarshaw 01:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else think there should be an article about the Steve Miller Band? Right now, it's a redirect to this article, but there's almost no mention of the band itself. Not even a mention of its musicians, besides Scaggs. -Freekee 02:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also felt the need for a page on the Steve Miller Band...I need some more info, so really I want it for selfish reasons, but it would improve the wiki.Elsprucemoose 04:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree, it would be much better for Steve Miller Band to be the main article, and Steve Miller to be a completely separate article / biography about the musician and band leader. Also (on a similar note) the first paragraph in the bio page is not particularly well written, for example it references Boz Skaggs twice, but in two completely different unrelated contexts. It's like the 2nd reference was thrown in to the middle of the paragraph without the author having even noticed the 1st reference. -Bsharkey 20:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also felt the need for a page on the Steve Miller Band...I need some more info, so really I want it for selfish reasons, but it would improve the wiki.Elsprucemoose 04:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prodigal is used incorrectly here, it means wasteful, spending, or exuberant. I think the author was thinking of prodigy.—Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleD (talk • contribs) 21:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Place of Birth?!?

The article says born in Milwaukee yet the infobox says born in Waukesha. I know the two cities are close but it would be good if the article was consistent with itself... Anyone know where he was truly born? Nthitz 03:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0589369 gives his birth as Milwaukee, Wisconsin and not Waukesha. Les Paul was from Waukesha, and this may be where there is confusion. I am not sure what to say other than that. LondonTaxi (talk) 19:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FORGET about Milwaukee or Waukesha !!! How about this : (http://www.dallasobserver.com/music/the-10-best-selling-dallas-fort-worth-musicians-of-all-time-8699111). It Says he is from Dallas, TX !!! And also in bottom of his page on Wiki, there is the link to "Musicians From Dallas" !!! Can somebody tells me what's going on ?!?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bezyjoon (talk • contribs) 22:48, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Add to Steve Miller history?

In the 1990s or early 2000s the US Postal Service used Fly Like An Eagle in its marketing of postal products. That would be a nice addition to the history of the Steve Miller Band if someone could do the research. 56.0.143.23 (talk) 16:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

San Francisco?

There is no mention of how Miller and co. wound up in San Francisco. There is a reference to the "psychedelic blues style that dominated the San Francisco music scene," in reference to the band's first album, but no mention of how they got from Wisconsin to S.F.

I would also like to see a bit of discussion about the San Francisco scene in relation to the SMB, namely how the band fit in with other Bay Area bands that are mentioned more frequently, i.e. Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Big Brother, Quicksilver, et al.

I ask these questions because I don't know the answers. I came to Wikipedia expecting to learn about the SMB, but found discussion of this particular aspect of their career lacking. I suppose that I'll go elsewhere to find these answers and will update this myself if I can find the info I seek. BolivarBaLues (talk) 20:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biographical Info?

How about some more biographical info about Steve Miller himself? (A lot of the facts about his recording career might better belong under the article for "The Steve Miller Band.") For example, has he ever been married, any kids, etc? 208.125.176.34 (talk) 17:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about some information on Steve Miller's personal life. Was he ever married? Is he hetero- or homo-sexual? Did he have any significant romantic attachments? Any kids, etc? (See above comment, too.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.59.102.196 (talk) 02:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity, what does his sex life have to do with anything? It's like asking does he pick his nose or his friend's nose - who cares?!THX1136 (talk) 22:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last $5? Give me a break. It clearly wasn't his last $5 (whatever that means), since presumably he was able to eat the next day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.2.133.135 (talk) 04:41, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Age problems

Listed age when starting college is "16" yet graduation date would seem to make him 18 at time of stated graduation from high school in 1961. Hmmm......something is fishy in the state of Denmark. NDM (talk) 08:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I found an interview with the UW-M paper where it says he went there from 1962-66, so I'll remove the bit about age 16.Lawikitejana (talk) 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Miller Band

I fail to see how this article, and the band's page (as per this section's heading), radically differ in content. OK, they are not mirror images of each other, but I suggest either merging the two as they presently stand (taking the best referenced and formatted pieces of each) OR basically altering both of them to provide definite distinct entities. Presently it is hardly a seamless join, but looking at each page it appears, to me, to suggest one is rather mutual to the other. Any other thoughts ? Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exuberant is used incorrectly above. I think extravagant was intended.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=htsf&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4LENN_en___US471&q=Prodigal lavish - profuse - extravagant - wasteful - spendthrift. 24.0.113.90 (talk) 10:17, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sy Klopps

I notice no mention of Miller's involvement with the Sy Klopps "Walter Ego" album that features nearly all Steve Miller Band tunes. Is there a reason for this? If not, I'll track down some info with cites when I get a chance. It's a good album and the vocals sound remarkably like Miller even though it's Walter James Herbert II doing the vocals.THX1136 (talk) 01:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. This has previously relisted. No consensus is seen here. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans (talk) 18:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– Likely primary topic by usage (7x the pageviews of every other Steve or Steven Miller combined) and significance (Rock Hall of Fame). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 06:34, 30 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Jenks24 (talk) 10:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support first, move DAB to Steven Miller. At a glance it looks like most of the entries legal first name is Steven, and some of those named just Steve are probably named Steven as well after some investigation. The musician is PRIMARY for the name Steve, but not Steven.--Ortizesp (talk) 07:44, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No primary topic by long-term significance. Would have to be overwhelmingly better-known than the rest given how many there are. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Necrothesp: Overwhelmingly better-known—yes, he certainly is. Here's every person known as "Steve Miller". It's not even a contest. The Steve Miller is a rock icon; every single other one averages single-digit pageviews/day. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:08, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, this seems like a personal opinion. I've never even heard of him. Now, I appreciate this doesn't mean anything in itself, but it does show that people who are icons to one person are nobodies to another. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp: With respect as well, don't ignore the actual thrust of my argument. Here's the all-time pageviews graph; the gulf is enormous. "Icon" wasn't the best word but wasn't meant to be a personal opinion; it may be overenthusiastic but it's arguably accurate: Rock legend Steve Miller (SD Union-Tribune), Music legend Steve Miller (CBS News), Bay Area rock giant (Mercury News), The hits ... occupy a special place in the classic rock canon (WaPo). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:10, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Steve Miller Band is notable, but the namesake compared to other "Steve(n) Miller"s ... not so much. Steel1943 (talk) 19:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support musician gets over 96% of the page views. This isn't including the Steven Millers, however, so move the DAB to Steven Miller. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 11:58, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral regarding Steve Miller (musician) → Steve Miller and oppose Steve Miller → Steve Miller (disambiguation), but would support Steve Miller → Steven Miller as the dab page main title header — those listed as "Steve" are assumed to have been named "Steven" or "Stephen", but those listed as "Steven" or "Stephen" do not have "Steve" as their WP:COMMONNAME, otherwise the headers of their entries would be "Steve". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Necro and Steel1943. I'd actually suggest merging Steve Miller and Stephen Miller into one page, and probably retaining a unified dab here at Steve Miller is the best option - all Stevens and Stephens could be plausibly construed as a Steve, but Stephen can never be Steven, and vice versa. — Amakuru (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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