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February 2019

Date Section Article Notes Resolved
1 February 2019 DYK General No queue loaded with 18 hours to go... Yes
Loschbour man Bare URL in there. And skeletons don't normally "come from someone", they are normally "of someone", "came from a dark"-> "was of a"...
Bare URL (QPQ fail) is still there.
 Yes
Philip Petty The hook seems unnecessarily confusing, especially since he was originally from Great Britain, so "his nation's" is odd, why not just "received the Medal of Honor..."? Yes
Holby City (series 18) This hook would be meaningful if any of us knew what the "BBC Action Line" really was. Is this for complaints? What sort of "Action" is it for? No article, no link, no explanation = meaningless hook.
From a search it looks like it's a way for the BBC to help people that may have been affected by something mentioned in a show (like domestic violence) get in touch with official help lines or similar. Not sure how the hook could be modified to account for this. Anarchyte (talk | work) 10:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Well that's what I mean. I've never heard of it and I watch the BBC regularly. So what chance anyone else gets the significance?
 Yes
OTD Peace of Thorn (1411) Date is unverifiable.
Added cite to specifically mention date Eddie891 Talk Work 12:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Kuala Lumpur Mildly confused, the blurb says "gained city status" on 1 Feb, article says "Kuala Lumpur achieved city status in 1972,[64] becoming the first settlement in Malaysia to be granted the status after independence. Later, on 1 February 1974, Kuala Lumpur became a Federal Territory."... so either it gained city status before 1 Feb, or it gained city status and Federal Territory status on the same day, just the latter after the former?
Both happened on 1 February, one in 1972, the other in 1974. Clarified in article. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir Date is not verifiable.
Added cite to specifically mention date Eddie891 Talk Work 12:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
2 February 2019 DYK General No queue loaded with 16 hours to go... Yes
Chesapeake and Ohio 1309 The article doesn't say "thousands of pounds", it says that some items weighed 300lb.
There might be some OR here, as the nominator is assuming that if "some" (minimum 2) items weighed 300 lb, and $14,000 worth of material was stolen, then the total was "thousands of pounds". Yoninah (talk) 13:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Maybe change to "dozens of parts"? That is verifiable from the article (12 of one type, 12 of another). --Khajidha (talk) 15:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Yoninah, The source clearly says 12 crowns and 12 hubs weighing 300lbs each. Per WP:CALC, simple calculations are not OR. This is not derived from the $14,000 figure. MB 16:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, that's not what the article says now is it?
Yes it is. MB 18:42, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
It clearly is not. That may be how you interpret what is said there because you have read the source, but the article clearly does not say that. I'm not going on with this pantomime, I would either fix the article to exactly match the claim in the hook, or we'll re-visit it once it's on the main page. just mark it up as another QPQ failure, it doesn't really matter now the error has been sitting there on the main page for so long, despite it being highlighted many hours before it got there.
The article itself only says that some components weighed 300 lb. It did not say which components weighed that. The article says that 12 of one type of part and 12 of another were among the parts stolen. Based only on what is actually stated in the article it would be possible for there to have been 3 parts that each weighed 300 lb and uncounted other parts that together might make up any conceivable weight. If all those dozens of other parts weighed less than 100 lb total, it would be possible for the thefts to amount to less than 1000 lb total. Thus, it is not clear that "thousands of pounds" of brass were stolen. Upon checking the source for the "some of which weighed 300 lb" I can find no indication as to how many of the parts had such a mass. --Khajidha (talk) 19:56, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Source [14], paragraph one says "Brass components weighing 300 pounds each", and paragraph two says "12 crown brasses and 12 hub liners". It's not talking about any other components. 24*300 = several thousand pounds (7,200 to be exact)". MB 20:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Once again, that's not what it says in the article.
It says that the parts stolen included those things, implying that other things may have been stolen as well. Thus, it is not clear that these items were the 300 lb ones.--Khajidha (talk) 21:11, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 Nope
OTD F-16 Fighting Falcon Infobox says first flight was on 20 January.
Article text says, Its 90-minute maiden flight was made at the Air Force Flight Test Center (AFFTC) at Edwards AFB, California, on 2 February 1974. Its actual first flight occurred accidentally during a high-speed taxi test on 20 January 1974. I updated the infobox accordingly. —howcheng {chat} 16:44, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Maybe the blurb should say "maiden flight" then...
 Yes
Roger Federer Not seeing the 2 Feb date referenced.
Added. —howcheng {chat} 16:44, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Mary Docherty Death date unverifiable.
Sourced from online source (which through the magic of Google Books I was able to read her entry in full..amazing, normally Google doesn't let me.) Ealdgyth - Talk 14:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
3 February 2019 DYK General No queue loaded with 16 hours to go...
No queue loaded with 12 hours to go...
 Yes
1978–79 Penn Quakers men's basketball team "the only nine-seed..."? Pardon? Perhaps this jargon is commonplace in college basketball but I haven't got a scooby. It appears this means the team seeded ninth? But at closer inspection, they were the team seeded ninth in "the ten-team East region", so is this actually ninth seed overall? And is this any more significant than a tenth seed or an eighth seed team doing this? Surely something more accessible and interesting (to a broad audience) can be found here.
I think this is supposed to mean that they were the only team that was seeded ninth in their region to make it to the Final Four. But even if that is so it is hardly "interesting to a broad audience". And this comes from an American who has argued in favor of putting the NCAA men's basketball final in the "In the news" section.--Khajidha (talk) 19:46, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Well, where I'm from, a ninth seed winning something is hardly interesting, and a ninth seed is usually described as ninth most likely to win the whole thing, not the ninth most likely to win their region....
 Nope
ITN 2019 Jolo Cathedral bombings death toll is up to 20, injuries to 102 Yes
Brumadinho dam disaster death toll is up to 121 Yes
4 February 2019 DYK David Johnson (photographer) African American is not hyphenated in the target article in all usages, but the article says he was the first black student, not the first African(-)American student, or are those terms now universally synonymous? Not where I'm from... Yes (then unfixed)
OTD 1169 Sicily earthquake date is not sourced in article Eddie891 Talk Work 01:55, 3 February 2019 (UTC) Yes
Sri Lanka Why isn't Independence Day (Sri Lanka) the piped link for Independence Day? It's not the target so it's not a major issue if it's not up to par.
 Done  — Amakuru (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Meena Keshwar Kamal date of death is unverifiable.
Yes
5 February 2019 DYK Ficus coronulata the source doesn't say that "indigenous people ... would toss", it simply says that one can "toss" (encyclopedic tone?) figs in to attract turtles. I.e. anyone could do it.
Anyone could do it, and sure the source doesn't say that in exactly those words, but that chapter of the source is someone recounting what they learned from an indigenous woman who was in turn recounting the ways her ancestors related to the land; I think the hook is fair enough. GoldenRing (talk) 10:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
That's a leap from the standard DYK rule application. It's a QPQ failure. And if that's the case, presumably the indigenous people still toss figs for the turtles? Or did that stop?
 Nope
Charles J. Donlan he wasn't personally responsible for selecting the "spacecraft they flew", rather he headed the team that evaluated the tenders. Yes
Gustavus Myers Center for the Study of Bigotry and Human Rights "put out" what? And are we all supposed to know what "Sheroes Womyn Warriors Wall Calendar" is? Or its significance? Does this hook just mean this "center" sold calendars two years before it went out of business?
Can anyone explain this to me??
 Partially
OTD 62 Pompeii earthquake "eruption of Mount Vesuvius" is a pipe to a redirect. Yes
Welcome Stranger "alluvial gold nugget" is a sea of blue. Yes
Battle of Keren "Free French" is a pipe to a redirect. Yes
7 February 2019 DYK General Nothing in the queue with 17 hours to go...
Nothing in the queue with 11 hours to go...
Nothing in the queue with 8 hours to go...
 Yes
Walt Torrence Really no need to link US Army here, commonly known entity and not necessary for 99.9% of our readers, as we all know. And should point at the 1963 Pan American games, like the article does. That would also contextualise the hook temporally.
It was an intentional tease to not put the year, as college basketball players generally dont go to the armed services anymore.—Bagumba (talk) 02:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
It's not a tease, it's just poorly linked, and linking things like "US Army" is really inappropriate.
 Nope
International Conference on the Situation in Venezuela Reps from a "dozen" countries? at an "International Conference"? WOW, stop the press. I attended an "international conference" in the middle of western Africa last week, it had reps from more than 60 countries, and it doesn't even deserve an article. Is this the best that can be done about this article, really, honestly? Nope
Darlene Lim Come on, sea of blue, do we really need to link NASA? Don't 99.95% of our readers know what NASA is? And "lava landscapes" isn't mentioned, indeed "lava" isn't mentioned in the prose. Basics. Yes
Marshmello "one of the 10" try "one of the ten" per MOS for the love of anything reasonable. This is the main page of Wikipedia, after all... Oh and it wasn't "in earnings in 2017?" it was "earnings in the year up to June 2017". Perhaps the "in 2017" means that was year he was named? And where in the prose does it talk about him being in some kind of "top ten"? All I see is "He was named by Forbes in their annual ranking of the world's highest-paid DJs in 2017 as he earned $21 million in the 12 months prior to June 2017"... The hook is so badly written, it's hard to tell. Perhaps adding this link to the article, and writing about it in the article itself would actually help verify the hook which clearly has been verified by the reviewer, the promoter etc......... Yes
Presidential exemption (Slovak State) The direct claim of "exaggeration" needs to be tempered by the fact that it is a "claim", so "that Slovak ultranationalists have exaggerated the number " should be "that it is claimed that Slovak ultranationalists have exaggerated the number ". This is, after all, an encyclopedia, and not a political vessel to be used to propose claim as fact. Nope
Joseph Forbes (educator) Classic MOS:NUM fail, see "cats and dogs". Plus, if our Kevin McE was here, I'm sure there'd be an issue over the "ownership" of those wives, i.e were they his wives or the children's?????
Oh, now I see how you're reading this — that 24 children had two wives? How about: ... that educator Joseph Forbes had 24 children from two wives? Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
That literally makes no difference. You need to do either all numbers or all words per MOS.
 Yes
OTD Jean-Claude Duvalier Not seeing where date is verifiable.
Reference added. Fish+Karate 13:54, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Azar Bigdeli Not clear how to verify the date of birth, nothing inline offered.
Reference added. The reference says he was born on the 20th of the Islamic month of Rabi as-Sani in 1134 AH. A Hijiri calendar converter tells me this is 7 Feb 1722. Fish+Karate 14:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
6 February 2019 ITN American "big freeze" Article has been moved so target is piped to a redirect.
Done – Ianblair23 (talk) 10:14, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
DYK Grande roue de Montréal A paragraph and a whole section without a single reference, and tone issues ("offering a lively urban landscape" etc!!) how does this stuff get through QPQ let alone get loaded for the main page?
  • I added a source to the Panorama section of the article. The section now has a source. North America1000 10:13, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, but it's still missing citations for the rest of that paragraph and above, and the tone is still non-encyclopedic.
And now tagged again as 3/4 of that unencyclopedically written para is unreferenced.
 Yes
Sepioteuthis australis The article doesn't say "most" commonly, it just says "commonly".
So a patently false hook is going to run... Applause.
This is a slightly debatable one. The source says the eggs are often sired by multiple males, with three the most common number. To me "most commonly" would imply more than half of the time though, which we don't know. I've therefore changed the article and hook back to "commonly". Others may disagree though.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
On reflection, this is ok, boring, but ok.
 Not an error
SS Selah Chamberlain In what sense is a ship hitting another (non-notable) ship and sinking interesting?
  • An idea is that ship sinkings are typically associated with occurring at sea, rather than in one of the Great Lakes. North America1000 15:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Interesting, I didn't know about the article, or the incidence rate. Well, whatever then! North America1000 15:57, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • In fact, it renders the hook even more boring as it seemed that you stood a very high chance of sinking on the Great Lakes back in the day. Ho hum!
I guess Northamerica1000's not a Gordon Lightfoot fan? Sinkings in the Great Lakes are quite common. Remember, even the smallest of the Great Lakes is roughly the size of Slovenia and the largest is only a little smaller than Austria. That's a LOT of water. --Khajidha (talk) 16:55, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Nice. Well, people seem interested in the general topic here! Meh. North America1000 17:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm just interested in enforcing one of the pillars of DYK, namely "interesting to a broad audience". This clearly is not, along with many others I point out. I think it's finally time to remove that from the principles of DYK and just make it a winsome aim which can be summarily ignored by people gagging to get their QPQ done.
 I guess
Homeric Minimum Nowhere in the article is this referred to as "Homeric solar minimum" and it barely registers on a Google search, so why make terms up for the hook? And note the article capitalises "Minimum" here...
That was a deliberate choice to make it a bit clearer what it is a minimum of. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:57, 5 February 2019 (UTC
I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be making up incredibly rare terms just for DYK hooks.
 Yes
Nazo Dharejo "Pakistan's toughest woman" is not a nickname, it's a moniker, and which is it? The lead says "Pakistan's toughest woman" but the hook says "the toughest woman in Pakistan". Trivial to check yet heading to the main page...
Someone has adjusted the article to say both "moniker" and "Pakistan's toughest woman". Could someone please change the hook? Yoninah (talk) 11:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
OTD Washington Naval Treaty Far too much of it is unreferenced.
Replaced with Elizabeth II/George VI. —howcheng {chat} 17:06, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
8 February 2019 Nada!
9 February 2019 DYK General Once again, and for the nth day running, DYK queue is bereft of hooks with 12 hours to go.
That can't be right, there was one day when I copied two days in a row. Parp parp, break out the champagne! I have done the same again so hopefully tomorrow you can have a day off complaining about this...  — Amakuru (talk) 12:26, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough. Cheers.
 Yes
Flag of Somerset County, Maryland Mildly confusing because this implies that the flag is the same as the GB flag, which it is not. It is a Union Jack with a native American Indian head in the centre. This was never used by the United Kingdom, ever. Yes
Roy Inwood The lead says the VC was "involved in the elimination of a German machine gun post and other actions" (my emphasis), so the hook is misleading, he wasn't awarded the VC for solely the machine gun post action. In fact, reading the London Gazette quote, this was just a fraction of what he was awarded the VC for.... Yes
2018 Florida Amendment 4 Bare URL fail. Yes
Marcus Chamat It's a bit misleading to say he represented Europe ten times when several of those were in a non-playing captaincy role. And just some nitty gritty, the source used here was published before the Mosconi Cup, so while it's unlikely that he didn't fulfil that appearance, the source only tells us he was selected, and not that he actually did appear. Nope
OTD Mud March (suffragists) BritEng please per TIES, so "organised". Yes
Svalbard Meanwhile, this article is written in USEng, so "recognized" instead of "recognised"! Yes
McCarthyism I don't think he said it was "filled with", I think he said 205 people working for the State Dept were Commies. Even back then, I don't suppose this constituted being "filled with" reds under the bed... Yes
11 February 2019 DYK General Yet another failure to load a queue, this time with less than 14 hours to go.
Ongoing failure to load a queue, this time with less than 9 hours to go.
Ongoing failure to load a queue, this time with 5 hours to go.
Sorted with 3.5 hours to go.
 Yes
Image No pictured in the first hook, no real relationship between image and hook it would appear. Yes
The Aboriginal Mother Our own article about this massacre says in the lead that 28 people were killed. Since it's linked from the hook, better get the facts straight.
Amakuru that correction needs a tweak! Cheers.
 Yes
Earth's circumference Prize for most contrived hook... in true style, only DYK could state that "40,000 kilometres and 21,600 (i.e. 360 × 60) nautical miles long," was a thing. This needs rewording completely so it actually makes sense to readers, most of whom won't get it even if they can parse the seminally awkward current phrasing.
The hook makes perfect sense to me, and is very interesting. I was aware of the km part but not the nautical miles part, so I learned something. It's true that the 360x60 relevance might not be obvious to everyone but there's no way to explain that concept in a 200 word hook, so people who don't get it can click through.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
It's better now it's been changed from "and" to "or" but it's still hideously clunky.
Why not just say that "the Earth's circumference around the poles was used to define both the meter and the nautical mile?" The "360 x 60" is especially jarring, as no explanation is given as to why those particular numbers are important (I know it is because "1 nautical mile = 1 minute of arc" and that there are 60 minutes in a degree and 360 degrees in a full circle, but that may not immediately jump out at the reader). --Khajidha (talk) 12:13, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Indeed. The (i.e. 360 x 60) is gruesome.
 Partially, still abjectly contrived hook
Sue Miller (cancer activist) The source doesn't say the other models had to have had mastectomies, it said they had to have breast cancer. The two are not equivalent at all.
@Amakuru: I think "have had" is better IMO. Doesn't "had had" imply that only those cured of cancer were included in the show? --- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:43, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done  — Amakuru (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Manuel Trujillo Durán The hook is phrased in a sense that people no longer believe this. But the article begs to differ: "it is still a widespread belief in the nation — and, indeed, worldwide — that he did make the first Venezuelan films in 1897." The people still believe in Manuel!! Plus the article says "for many years" not "for nearly 100 years".
Still problematic!!
 Nope
OTD La fille du régiment opéra comique should be italicised.
Done – Ianblair23 (talk) 11:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851 It was a two-day match, so the blurb should say it started on this day, not "was held" on this day.
Done – Ianblair23 (talk) 11:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Friedrich Ebert The text in the article actually says he was elected as the provisional president. Yes
12 February 2019 DYK General Yet another failure to load a queue, this time with less than 17 hours to go. Yes
Weewarrasaurus Still a stub, should have been failed at review.
fixed - when I'm a reviewer I just fix it at the time.
 Yes
OTD Battle of Haengju The article states multiple times this took place on 14 March 1593, not 12 February 1593!
Swapped out. Fish+Karate 10:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
13 February 2019 DYK Operation Thunderbolt (1997) The article says the quote is "degraded and of no use on the battlefield" not "much of it degraded and of no use on the battlefield". And as this is just a plain statement of fact, there really is no necessity for quotations, just don't phrase it verbatim. Yes
Augusta Peaux Kloos didn't "complain", the article clearly states that he was simply "puzzled" by the situation. The two emotions are quite different.
Only we don't need another emotion, but verb. What would you suggest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I suggest we use the facts, i.e. that he was puzzled by it. We can't just make up emotions that aren't true.
You are right, and I undertstood the first time, the question was how to word that. look, we can't say "when he was puzzled about ... and sait to ..." instead of "when he complained to", and the hook was not to my liking to start with. . English speakers please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
"puzzled by".
I said "look". You need to look at the whole phrase. - Different approach: ... that when Willem Kloos was puzzled to know of only two young talented poets in the Netherlands, Jacques Perk mentioned his childhood friend Augusta Peaux as a third? - Still think to mention two men before the women we want to get to is not the best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I did "look" thanks. I'm just interested in not making things up on the main page, that's all.
Changed to "said". Fish+Karate 14:26, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Jackson Gallagher Unreferenced filmography, and article says he was involved in two rockfalls, not one. And it turns out absolutely no-one was hurt, so is this really interesting?
Sources were added (by another user) to the Filmography section. North America1000 14:32, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes (at least the refs)
Tidying Up with Marie Kondo The hook is nowhere near as impactful as it would be if the stats in the article were used, I mean an increase of 66% is quite staggering, but downplaying it to "reported an increase in donations" really wrecks it as a hook.
I don't know. You are stating that this is an actual error, but your estimation is only based upon your personal opinion. The "nope" for resolved implies that your opinion is superior, and that the main page will be in error unless your opinion is used, rather than that of others. Subjective. I wouldn't characterize this as an error. North America1000 08:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The key point here is interesting to a broad audience, one of the tenets of the DYK process. If we're not abiding by that in creating hooks which genuinely are interesting "to a broad audience" it's a failure of process. Now thanks for your input, but if you're just going to criticise my methodology, this probably isn't the place for you. Plenty of other place, e.g. the toxic and unbelievably unhelpful WP:ERRORS page.
66% is only applicable to the Goodwill shops in Washington DC, so I dropped the mention of "and New York" so I could add in the more interesting "66%". Fish+Karate 14:26, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
OTD Charles XI of Sweden Not seeing in that source any mention of the date.
Was pointing at wrong page. Fixed. Fish+Karate 14:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Black Sabbath The claim of the "first heavy metal album" does not appear in the target article.
Nor in heavy metal music, which says that claim is much debated. Swapped out. Fish+Karate 14:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Louisville sewer explosions Is there a good reason for the mixture of numbers and words for "two miles (3 km)"? Also, the lead opens with ", that destroyed more than 13 miles (21 km) of sewer lines and streets"... Yes
13th Dalai Lama Both "Tibet" and "Republic of China" are piped to redirects. Yes
♥14 February 2019♥ DYK General The usual problem, no queue loaded with less than 16 hours to go.
The usual problem persists, no queue loaded with less than 8 hours to go.
The usual problem persists, no queue loaded with just under 6 hours to go.
The usual problem persists, no queue loaded with just under 5 hours to go.
The usual problem persists, no queue loaded with just under 4 hours to go.
WOW!
 Yes
Jean Baptiste Guth* Either use his full name, or his pen-name (GUTH) but not something in between. Do you think anyone knows who "Guth" is? And at no point in the target article is "Au bois de Boulogne" italicised. Does anyone check this kind of stuff? Oh, and we suddenly need (1897) in the caption too. Of course we do!! Mostly
Elizabeth Ness MacBean Ross* zOMG for the love of anything, tell us all it was both her birthday and the date of her death on top of this commemoration!!! Think "interesting to a broad audience"!!!! Honestly, this one is there on a plate for you all. Also, at closer examination, it appears her memory is commemorated in Kragujevac, but perhaps not throughout Serbia... Nope
Wayétu Moore* "founded a nonprofit which"... pardon? Are we speaking English here? Since when did "nonprofit" become a noun? And please, stop promoting via QPQ BLP articles which have sections which need referencing.
FYI: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nonprofit
Nah, "nonprofit" is not a noun. Just because America is bastardising English, it doesn't mean we have aimlessly follow suit.
 Yes
Thessaloniki Metro "inadvertently" is blatant bollocks. Of course the construction of the metro was a "deliberate" attempt to do some archaeology. The hook would be better served (and far more encyclopedic and less tabloid bullshit trash) without such a provocative term. Yes
73 Cows What absolute perversion to avoid linking Hillside Animal Sanctuary yet link Vegan organic gardening? WTF is wrong with DYK these days? Pathetic doesn't really cover it. And honestly, we and no-one else, cares about what these people are called, trim the hook, remove that, link the right elements, and you might have something worth main page coverage. Yes
OTD IBM Not sure a business can "rename itself", somewhat anthropomorphic. Why not (per the article) "was renamed"? Yes
15 February 2019 DYK Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden This is located in Konya Province which is in Anatolia which is in .... Asia. So not sure how this could be the biggest in Europe.
Turkey tries hard to be recognized as part of Europe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Some of Turkey is in Europe, but the Konya Tropical Buttefly Garden is in Asia.
They're trying to defend this wording over on Main Page Errors. I look forward to seeing a whole lot of "in Europe" records being set from Cayenne. --Khajidha (talk) 16:44, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Unbelievable.
 Yes
OTD USS Maine It may be not a problem, but some of the text in our article is a word-for-word verbatim copy of material on this website.
It's a US Navy site, so public domain text. Not a problem unless the article isn't neutral. —howcheng {chat} 17:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not an issue
Qumran Caves Not seeing 15 Feb mentioned explicitly.
Date was in Dead Sea Scrolls. Copied it to this article. —howcheng {chat} 17:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Don Dunstan "social liberalisation" is piped to a redirect. Yes
Soviet–Afghan War This has 16 [citation needed] tags including one on one of the February 15 claims.
Replaced with Halle train collision. —howcheng {chat} 17:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Abdullah Öcalan The source doesn't seem to verify the 15 Feb claim. If anything it points at 16 Feb (two weeks after 2 Feb).
The source article was published 20 Feb 1999 and says, "Mr. Ocalan's arrest on Monday led to furious protests by Kurdish demonstrators..." A February 1999 calendar shows that the Monday immediately preceding the article date was in fact the 15th. —howcheng {chat} 00:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not an error
16 February 2019 DYK Padina pavonica It's "peacock's tail" not "peacocks tail". Yes
OTD Tutankhamun I don't think the burial chamber's opening is noted in detail in this target article, it's in KV62 instead.
Copied that bit to this article. —howcheng {chat} 16:35, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Ash Wednesday bushfires I don't think it's necessary to give the areas to the nearest acre in each case, just "more than half a million acres in both..." would suffice.
Done: "over half a million acres (over 2,000 km2) each in both..." —howcheng {chat} 16:35, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I think "over half a million acres (over 2,000 km2) in each of ..." would be clearer. --Khajidha (talk) 16:40, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
"each of South Australia and Victoria"? That doesn't sound like correct English to me. —howcheng {chat} 17:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
No, I think it just needs to drop the "each".
 Yes
17 February 2019 DYK Poovulagin Nanbargal Respect the version of English used in the target article - organization.
Article has been changed to BritEng - organisation – Ianblair23 (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 Yes
Stephen Twinoburyo Of all the possible things about his life that could be highlighted, this is doubtlessly the most banal and disinteresting. This is a guy who did humanitarian work, educational work, and the best that could be thought up was that he claimed Ugandans claimed prices for the World Cup were too high?? Seriously? Is anyone surprised? Even local South Africans couldn't easily afford some of those games, let alone people from Uganda (which is under-developed even in African terms)!
714 pageviews in 24 hours!! 30 per hour! AMAZEBALLS!
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The Green Marker Scare The last clause is completely unnecessary. Of course a horror movie isn't for kids, and of course a horror movie may unsettle some adults. Deary me. Just stick with "that the Irish horror film The Green Marker Scare was animated by children?" Nope
18 February 2019 DYK Ladies Dining Society This was very much a Cambridge University society, not a Cambridge society. Don't forget town and gown!
I've done this, and also added the other co-founder as it was not clear why one was listed but not the other.... Also, it's going live at midday today. Two sets per day now, folks!  — Amakuru (talk) 10:53, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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Kunság The hook uses a term "Hungarian Cumania" which is used precisely zero times in the target article. Stop making terms up and stick with verifiable facts. Yes
NWA New Years Clash The claim is not verifiable - the source provided is simply a link to a generic NWA Instagram account, not good enough.
Now tagged in the article. Seriously, who reviews and promotes this kind of crap?
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Siegfried Geißler Mainly unreferenced list of works and another mostly unreferenced section.
I hope I fixed it.
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OTD William Phips Not seeing verifiable source for date of death, and what's going on with the dates in the infobox??!
The dates are expressed in the usual way for dates that fall in the time period when the New Year started in March. See footnote in the first paragraph of the article. Birth and death dates cited in article now. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:28, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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19 February 2019 OTD Huaynaputina "exploded ... explosion" is jarring.
Changed the first one to "erupted". —howcheng {chat} 03:55, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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Henry Ossian Flipper "pardoned" ought to be linked to the much more specific List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States.
I've gone with Federal pardons in the United States.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK Leipziger Universitätschor Unreferenced section
  • The section was removed (by another user) for the time being (diff). North America1000 11:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
... and restored after a walk by that other editor, using the official website, - who else would know about the interim people. The others are all mentioned in the body. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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John L. Whitehead Jr. Hook should use "African-American" in the same way as the article, hyphenated, or article should be un-hyphenated. The inconsistency is not acceptable.
I've dehyphenated the article. I think this would be similar to Middle Eastern, as mentioned at MOS:HYPHEN, so should not have hyphens.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Just a quick headsup, last time you fixed it, it was unfixed while on the main page.
Oh yes, so it was. Quel horreur. Will have to keep an eye out for that happening again.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:30, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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David Timm Are we supposed to know what a Jazz-Messe is? Also, it's referred to by the "RS" as "Jazzmesse" and referred to in the article as "Jazz-Messe". Is it hyphenated? Is it italicised? And .... what is it??!
I thought Jazz is so close to jazz and Messe to mass (music) thet it would be clumsy to add a translation. I saw both versions of hyphen and no hyphen, and decided for hyphen to clarify that its a composite. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Well no, Messe is close to mess, no mass.
What do you suggest? Isn't making readers curious one of the objectives? Let them find which mess this is. - As for hyphen: inconsistent even in the same document. [1] [2] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
For the hook, don’t know, it’s not that hooky for me as it stands, somewhat intractable. As for consistency, the least we can do for our readers is to be consistent with what we can impact.
jazz and Reger are quirkily different, and Jazzmesse and Jazz-Messe mean exactly the same, at least in German. It's almost a generic name. Sinfonie and Symphony mean exactly the same, in German at least, and both are used without disturbing "consistency". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
But this is English language Wikipedia. We should be using English words and being consistent. We can't just have three different ways of writing the same word, italics, without italics and with hyphens, it's clumsy, unprofessional and unencyclopedic. The link (or lack of link) between "Jazz messe" and whatever Reger wrote is probably clear to a mere handful of readers, no more, and as such this hook really lacks any grabbing power whatsoever I'm afraid.
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Ferdinand Rudow The "European" qualifier does not appear to be in the article.
He probably wasn't compared in badness to others than Europeans. Read the nom for how little I (reviewer) liked that hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
The point is it’s not mentioned in the article as far as I can tell so it shouldn’t be in the hook.
I've removed European. Also agree with Gerda that it's a poor hook. If only because it has an unattributed WP:WEASEL "descibed as", which is crying out for a [by whom?] tag...  — Amakuru (talk) 13:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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20 February 2019 DYK Battle of Anglon (543) It should be "one tenth its size". But if it's 30,000 to 4,000, that's not 10:1, it's 7.5:1, so "a tenth" is fake.
It should be "less than one eighth" and it still says "their" rather than "its".
Changed to "its" (less than one-seventh is correct as one-eighth would be 3750)
Fair point!
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Taina Asili Not sure why we need to mention the name of the non-notable band, and in any case, the discography section needs more references. Nope
Episode 5820 If we feel there's an obligation to tell people that EastEnders is a "soap opera" then it's only fair to tell people that "The Queen Victoria" is a pub. And "opinions and views": are both necessary? Yes
21 February 2019 OTD Kurt Eisner The whole paragraph relating to his assassination is unreferenced.
The CN tag you added to the last paragraph in that section is kind of unnecessary, considering the picture of the memorial is right there with the inscription (albeit not entirely legible). Regardless, citations added. —howcheng {chat} 16:45, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Not really, the image doesn't convey when or where the memorial was erected. Cheers though.
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Warlord Rebellion in northeastern Shandong The numbers in the prose don't seem to match the numbers in the infobox which don't seem to match the numbers in the blurb...
The numbers in the infobox cover the entire rebellion, not this specific battle. However, the cited source says the attacking force was about 24,000, so I added that to the article and fixed the blurb. —howcheng {chat} 16:45, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Libyan Arab Airlines Flight 114 Worth adding the number of people killed...
Done. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:05, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK Malathi Chendur There are columns that have run for much longer than 47 years, e.g. this one is 80 years old. Now, if it means the longest running column with a single author, that's a different record altogether, but as it stands, the claim is fake.
I would have thought if a claim really was a Guinness World Record it would appear somewhere other than on one website. Should be pulled. Fish+Karate 13:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
This should say "uninterrupted", not "continuously".
It should say "uninterruptedly", which it now does. Fish+Karate 15:49, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Squid They can't fly. They can "fly" according to the article, like dolphins can "fly". Yes
Emiliano Sala No need for "footballer", it's a given since he signed for a "football club". And it does seem quite to phrase this in the present tense, but hey.
It doesn't say "football club" in the hook. You may know what FC stands for but not all readers will. And he is the most expensive signing. "Was" would imply someone else has been purchased for more money since his signing. Fish+Karate 13:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Well funny how all reliable sources I've read talk about being the most expensive signing in the past tense...
And as for adding "footballer", then you should be consistently verbose and add "newspaper" to the opening hook, because not every reader is going to see that a "column" which appeared "continuously" for 47 years actually relates to something being written in a periodical.
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Laminaria sinclairii The precise term brown algae in the article has become obfuscated to "brown seaweed" (unlinked) in the hook. Why?

Brown seaweed is a subset of brown algae, not the other way around, but I've changed that in line with the article. It's not linked because WP:SEAOFBLUE. Fish+Karate 15:49, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Fish and karate The same sea of blue we see with the Sala blurb then?
That's a "yes" then!
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Sir Herbert Seddon Remove the "Sir", his common name is just Herbert Seddon. Yes
Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero Part I) The release duration wasn't "nine minutes" it was 8 m 45 s, or "less than nine minutes". Yes
Helmut Kleinicke Article is an orphan.
Buidhe, I tried but could easily create only one. More? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
I added a link in one article but couldn't find any others suitable. Fish+Karate 09:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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22 February 2019 OTD Robert II of Scotland Nothing seems to verify 22 February in the article. Indeed, there's a sentence saying David died on 21 February, so why wasn't the reign contiguous?
Date cited. As to why it was the 22nd and not the 21st - beginnings of reigns do not always immediately begin at the death of a monarch - countries and time periods differ. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:22, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Battle of Toulon (1744) "off the coast near Toulon" -> "off the coast of Toulon".
Fixed. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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Second Battle of Caloocan "in a failed attempt aimed at recapturing " -> "in a failed attempt to recapture"
Fixed. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK Emily Valentine Firstly, the link to "rugby" should include "female" as the link is easter egg-ish, taking you to "women's rugby union". Also, there are multiple codes of rugby, so this probably should be explicit about the fact. And per Fish and karate (Sala hook), surely she still is the first documented female rugby union player, not "was"??
Badly worded hook, tweak that she was playing in 1887, not discovered as the oldest. Stephen 01:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
PS. League wasn't played until 1895 so assume this could only have been union? Stephen 01:22, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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Orchesella cincta Springtail needs linking as it's a highly uncommon term. And since Sala has set the "sea of blue" precedent today, there's no good reason not to do that. Yes
Michael Magill Should link Yorkshire really, even the article does, as it's very rare indeed for people to be killed by landmines in the UK, and many of our readers will not even know where Yorkshire is. Yes
North Carolina State House " by an "Awful conflagration!" that" nope, need to write that in sentence case and with correct punctuation, so "by an "awful conflagration" that..." and "started while fireproofing", presumably this means the house not the sculpture, but it's lost clarity in that sentence structure. Yes
Submarine Telegraph Company Once again, I reckon more than 90% of our readership will have no idea where Calais or Dover are. Link. And actually, it was marked by cannons on both sides of the channel being remotely detonated, not just on one side.
Well the links are in, but the facts of the matter, that cannons went off on both sides is still missing. And the repeat of "telegraph" is now jarring.
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Park Avenue main line No geographical context whatsoever in this hook. Don't assume all our readers know where "Grand Central Terminal" is.
Especially as most Americans know of it as "Grand Central Station". --Khajidha (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Exactly right. I'm sure QPQ covered this though.
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23 February 2019 OTD Dick Turpin I'm pretty sure most of our readers are familiar enough with the term "handwriting" as to not require it to be linked in the blurb!
Actually, I'm inclined to leave the link in because our article on handwriting is so awful that any editing would have to be an improvement...Ealdgyth - Talk 13:44, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
You shouldn't tempt fate that way....--Khajidha (talk) 14:06, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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Chatichai Choonhavan No real need to italicise coup here, it's sufficiently adopted into English, particularly without the "d'état".
Done. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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Nicholas Fuller (lawyer) Do we normally put in the dismabiguator?
Not according to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 17, so fixed. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:26, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK Neo-Bechstein Jarringly quick repeat of "piano" in the hook, dehookifying it somewhat. Also not sure where in the source I'm seeing this piano being described as "pioneering", and really such claims should be attributed and verifiable. Nope
Rachel Dübendorfer Why are we using Soviet Union and USSR in the same sentence? Consistency and avoiding repetition would be good here. Yes
Thomas Forsyth House According to the article, this "fact" is introduced with "it is said", i.e. it's apocryphal. So the hook shouldn't be presented as bare fact. Nope
24 February 2019 DYK General The queue, once again, is empty with 18 hours to go. Yes
OTD Swaminarayan Temple, Ahmedabad Not seeing where the date (which is only mentioned in the infobox) is verifiable? Yes
Marc-Antoine Charpentier Date of death appears to be unverifiable.
Some sites online agree with the date of death, according to google, but none look all to reliable. Not sure what to do. Anarchyte (talk | work) 09:41, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Dug out the Grove Music Online subscription and sourced to that. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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25 February 2019 DYK Soni Sumarsono No, the article says he was "acting" governor. But why let the truth get in the way of a contrived hook? Yes
MAX Red Line The hook is completely context-free, what the hell is it, where the hell is it etc? Yes
Joyce Sumbi "one of 13" -> MOS (cats and dogs), plus how awkward is "one of 13 ... in a 242-..." anyway?? Would it be snappier just to say "the first African-American..."?
It probably would be snappier and more understandable, but I'll defer to the nominator and reviewer's expertise on that aspect of it. The MOS:NUM issue is fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Yat Ning Chan Why is this being used instead of the name of the article (Isabel Chan)? What possible benefit does this bring to the reader? Yes
OTD Hiram Rhodes Revels Our readers would really benefit more from List of African-American United States Senators being linked than United States Congress
Done. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:38, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Bangladesh Rifles revolt No need to say it happened in Bangladesh, and MOS per "cats and dogs", i.e. "n 74 deaths, in addition to eight mutineers killed" 74/8 or "seventy-four/eight". And the situation is quite contradictory, the blurb says it happened OTD (i.e. 25 Feb), the lead says "a mutiny staged on 25 and 26 February 2009" and the infobox says " 25 February − 2 March 2009 (5 days)" so some work needed here.
I got the Bangladesh and the numbers. The other I don't have the sources for. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Yi Han-yong Article says he died on 26 Feb.
Could use another one to replace it....
Korean WP says 25 Feb. According to their cited source (via Google Translate), "On February 15, 1997, at around 9 pm, he was shot dead by two gunmen in front of his apartment elevator in Seohyun-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam, Gyeonggi-do, and died 10 days later." Assuming the "shot dead" part is a mistranslation of "fatally shot", that puts his death date on the 25th. Here's another one that puts his death 10 days after being shot (note the transcription of his name is different, but comparing the Korean script, it's same person). —howcheng {chat} 03:33, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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26 February 2019 OTD Napoleon I don't think the return is "pictured", more "depicted" in that painting.
Done. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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Luftwaffe No need to say "German" here.
Done Ealdgyth - Talk 15:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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Shooting of Trayvon Martin No need to link African-American (and there goes that hyphenation again, which isn't used in the article!)
Actually, I think a link to African American is warranted, given the controversy surrounding this event is mainly due to race issues. But I don't feel strongly enough to return the link after someone already removed it. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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27 February 2019 OTD Flag of Japan Verifiability of the date?
Links to the legislation were at the bottom of the page, but I added them as footnotes. —howcheng {chat} 17:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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Caracazo The article itself isn't italicised, and do we need "anywhere" in the blurb?? And another case of consistency: the blurb says "death toll of anywhere between 275 and 3,000 people", the infobox says "Deaths: 276 (officially) 2000+[4][5]" and "Injuries: 2,000[3]" and the text says "The initial official pronouncements said 276 people had died[11] but many estimates put the number at above 2,000.[5] " Yes
Boris Nemtsov Nine citation needed tags already, I could probably add more, probably worth de-bolding. And is "while returning from a meal out." really useful? Are we, in 100 years time, going to wonder where Nemstov was as he was assassinated? "Do you know when Nemstov was killed?", "Wasn't it on his way back from having his tea?".... nope.
Removed that bit and added "an outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin". —howcheng {chat} 17:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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Alice Hamilton The source given just talks to her year of birth, not the date.
Ref added. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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Ganesh Vasudev Mavalankar No sign of verifiable source for date.
It's after the last sentence in Ganesh Vasudev Mavalankar § Political life. Source is the National Informatics Centre, an Indian government agency. —howcheng {chat} 17:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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28 February 2019 OTD Qin dynasty Rather than "was enthroned", the article makes it appear to have been much more unilateral, with this fella "declaring himself Emperor Gaozu". Yes
North Hollywood shootout Couple of things, not clear on where the source is talking about this (being considered) to be "one of the longest" shootouts, and there's a conflict in the lead with the infobox, saying "12 police officers and eight civilians were injured," vs "Non-fatal injuries 18[1]" Yes
Resignation of Pope Benedict XVI " Pope Benedict XVI (pictured) became the first pope" I would drop the first "Pope" as it's clear he's the pope when you say he became the first pope to...
I'd rather drop the first Pope, because he could be first in a different capacity. "Benedict XVI (pictured) became the first pope ..."--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
I say "I would drop the first "Pope""
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Henry James Too much unreferenced material here, and some of it quite significant. Replaced
DYK Alberto Jorge Is this intended to be quirky? In either case, there's no mention of the sport, so perhaps "manager" should be "football manager" or even, dare I say, "association football manager? Yes
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