User talk:Drmies

Iggy Pop

I beleive a {{fact}} tag would have been more appropriate here. --kelapstick (talk) 09:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe, but I had no idea what this person was trying to say. Only when they put it in the third time did I realize that "Iggy" might be the subject, not some idiot schoolmate of this idiot. Hey, are you hounding me? Oh, my regards again to the fam. We were just discussing this morning how much we'd like the four-year old to be two years old again for an hour. Enjoy it while you can, K! Haha, Drmies (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Well we will be at least another two years till we have another two year old...where does the time go? Hey? Have you considered autoarchiving? Boba Phat is still on here, and while I know he was crucial to the project, that was months ago! Plus it takes me forever to scroll down this far on my iPod....So when are you coming to NS? It is prime lobster season, although we both missed the Lobster Carnival. --kelapstick (talk) 14:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Appologies for the let down, I had actually expected you to correct that for me, in fact I was going to leave a note when I left it asking you to. I must make Lobster Carnival a blue link (if I can), because I was under the impression that there would be lobsters riding Ferris Wheels and merry-go-rounds, but when I got pictures from Mrs. K (I could not attend, for obvious reasons), I was saddly dissappointed. I must inform others that the event might not be what they expect it to be. I have also been trying to gather enough information to create an article on Pictou county pizza (a style of pizza, not a brand), but have come up short once again (that's what she said).--kelapstick (talk) 00:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

See also

Sorry about the RVV label; I have been barely sweeping articles for the last few years, after spending 3 years creating 100s of them. It's a lot of work to keep up on that many, and honestly, when I see an editor who has never edited the article before come along and wipe out large portions of link sections I almost automatically assume it's vandalism, revert it, then move along. Sorry to lump your concerned effort with those. • Freechild'sup? 14:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing, Freechild. Thanks for your note--and I hope you like the feather I stuck in your cap. Drmies (talk) 14:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Against my word and yours we need to discuss this, civilly and calmly. We are obviously going to get nowhere with snarky comments and edit warring. So, how do you want to solve this? At present, there is no consensus for either inclusion or non-inclusion, as it has no been actively discussed. The inclusion is something that has just happened over time. I feel we should have (at ANI for more eyes) a discussion on this and work something out. We aren't going to get anywhere but blocked, both of us, if we continue to spit snarky comments at each other and revert each others edits. So, truce? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Homer, I haven't yet forgotten that you called me a "petty, arrogant troll"--on this same talk page. I make good-faith efforts to improve articles that you hadn't even edited before, and you are obviously following me and reverting me (blindly reverting me at WIAT also removed a valid maintenance template, and you know it). And no, I am not going to get blocked over this: every time you warn me about 3RR, you're the one at 3, not me.

  Now, there is progress in your message: you say there is no consensus for either inclusion or exclusion. By that I think you mean "no consensus in the TV station project"--which is correct, but that's not all that matters. What I want from you, before we go anywhere, is the acknowledgment that Wikipedia's policies on BLPs and directories apply across the board, since I can not agree to anything that allows unverified information to stand. You have brought forth a few arguments for the reasonability of some of that information. I can see the possibility of a compromise there, where it concerns current staff--but why don't you start by linking to a webpage, whenever possible, where that info is verified? Some time ago you agreed that especially in the case of former staff there are BLP problems, and I think (but seriously, I am not checking your edits!) that in a number of cases (in the past anyway, if I remember correctly) where you reverted me you have not reinstated those unverified/non-notable folk, for which I applaud you (and I hope you are still of the same opinion).

  Look, I'm watching the news right now on WSFA, and I want to finish watching that. In the meantime, have a look at that station's page--there's barely a notable person there, and you know it. More than half the article is directory information. I'm leaving it alone, since Rich Thomas is doing his spiel (he's obviously not just the weekend meteorologist). Thanks for your message; we'll talk later. Drmies (talk) 03:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know I am not following your edits, we actually just popped up on the same page, please see this edit and this edit. These were for a couple days ago. There is a sockpuppet afoot, so I have been doing some reverting. They were hitting the WIAT and WVTM pages often, so I watchlisted them, otherwise, I wouldn't have seen the edits...they are outside of my watch area (I watch VA, WV, MD, PA and DC stations).

I am still open to adding links to the station bio pages. I can do that in my area, since you appear to live (I am guessing) in the Alabama area, you might want to do the same down there. As for other stations, we would have to put something on WP:TVS to get more help so it is not just two people working on this, it would get tiring very quickly.

As for the former staff, I am fine with the lists being slimmed down to notable and another editor has already started that. I think while they are at the station, they are notable. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Homer, this sounds fair to me. Current staff should have a link to a source (the station's website) to satisfy WP:V; for former staff, bluelinks are of course sufficient, and if at least some sort of significant reference is linked (to satisfy WP:BLP), people without WP articles make the cut as well--and they could be redlinked as an invitation to editors to write the article. I'll do one of the articles we've disagreed on, and then you can see what you think.

BTW, there is another matter: I personally don't see the justification for those slogans and lists of names of news programs and I wonder where, in most of those articles, that knowledge comes from, but we can leave that for another day. OK? In the meantime, we'll stop the namecalling and next time we disagree we'll settle it after school on the playground, under the old oak tree, with fisticuffs. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. My idea was to link to the reporter/anchor/etc's individual bio per a link, but this works just as good. :)

The slogans/news programs lists should be taken out. At first I was indifferent on their inclusion, but since a long time sockpuppeteer has created all those lists, they are out. I will do the VA, WV, MD, PA and DC stations sometime today.

*totally joking*Yeah! 3pm after History class! You're going down! :) Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Matthew HK

Hi there MIES, VASCO here,

Glad to see everything is (for now resolved) in this situation, even though i think (i could be wrong though) the apology is contrived, not sincere. Also (was totally caught by surprise, because i thought blocked users could do everything but edit, so i assumed they could still send messages and stuff), if you notice his talkpage, watch how he goes in an endless rant about football technicalities to justify his (not being) block(ed), then speaks about differences with two users, one of them me.

About this last part, i feel as though he is trying to make me look bad, again calling me stupid ("nonsense"), saying i don't own articles (does he?) and saying i engage in things i do not (as of now that is, i did it in the past - could his horrible English be to blame for any misunderstanding on my part?); more or less, it seems he is saying "I was blocked, how come Vasco was not?". But i will leave everything as it is - sent him a polite but to-the-point message when i saw what he wrote - hopefully this is the beginning of a good Wikiunderstanding between you two - i say "you two" because i feel that i haven't reached, for reasons that escape me, that kind of understanding with him or any other user in almost four years of editing :(

Cheers, take care - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Vasco, thanks for the note. Well, he apologized, and I accept that, so as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. I haven't looked at his talk page and I probably won't; the lengthy explanations of other things, I saw that before. But you see, I only incidentally edit soccer articles (like last night, when you should have been in bed, haha), so I don't run into him very often. Really all I can say is I hope he gets it. He's produced a ton of edits, many of them useful, no doubt, but Wikimanners count for something as well. And it's hard, especially since all of us think we're right, usually, to deal with someone whom we think is wrong, and I'm not always good at it, but it's worth trying to get along. So, try to keep your cool. In the meantime, make sure you enjoy the rest of the summer, and adeus! Drmies (talk) 17:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Vampires Suck

You did not abide by WP:Assume good faith and as such I request a redaction or change in your "warning." Thanks.68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Request denied. I asked you to start making constructive edits; up to now you are merely being disruptive. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually I haven't. I've been trying to fix this crappy article. I'm trying to add an external link. Why do you have to be such a wiki-nazi?68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
    • And thank you for proving Godwin's law. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

And thanks for being a jerk. I didn't vandalize. You are not assuming good faith edits on my part, which they are. I request redaction of all warnings, as I'm not fucking vandalizing anything. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Good luck. You can try your luck at WP:ANI, and maybe you can get me blocked there for being a nazi. Drmies (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Tell me how my edits were vandalism.68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • The persistent reintroduction of text or links not in accordance with our guidelines, after this has been explained to you, without explanation but with cuss words, that is disruptive behavior. Calling other editors nazis (you already did in an edit summary) and jerks, that's very uncivil. Besides, my talk page is a fuck-free zone, except for some who have a special invitation. Have a nice day. Drmies (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Ahem* My previous edits do not have anything to do with the warning you gave. It sounds like you are friends with another editor and are holding person grudges against users. I will have to contact Wikipedia via e-mail about that. And I was only persistent because another link was done the exact same way on the page. I have removed it. Now please remove my warnings, and I am not a vandal. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

We on Wikipedia don't hold grudges. However, you did violate the three revert rule. Coasterlover1994^{Leave your mark!} 19:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Coasterlover, you are an optimist! No, I don't really hold grudges either, but this Nazi-stuff has to stop. Drmies (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I will be writing an e-mail regardless with all 3 of your user names in it. I am not a vandal. And I can call you a Nazi all I want, it's not an attack if I think highly of them. Actually it would be a compliment. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 19:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

And to the IP editor, dude seriously? Why don't you just remove the warnings from your page yourself if they bother you so much. Good luck with that email. Millahnna (mouse)talk 19:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Sashes

Many thanks for the appreciation. The line about Hynde and the map was actually was by user:Chzz who very kindly added it to take the article above the minimum size limit which it fell short of originally by a couple of words. Regards Motmit (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

SB 1070 Edits

Sometimes it helps resolve editor disputes if there is a 3rd party intermediary. Would you care to act as one to help us? I suggest you look at both his and my talk pages as I really have tried to talk this out with him and that will give you some background to work with.-65.185.178.220 (talk) 00:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• I had a look, thanks. I think there's something to be said for both versions: the earlier one read better (less technical--that's appropriate to a lead) while yours had some useful content (but not such a well-formed reference). I hope you don't mind that I reverted to an earlier version--and it doesn't mean that I endorse the suggestion that it was vandalism! Drmies (talk) 00:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Did I say "thanks for your message" already? Thanks for your message. Drmies (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

webOS

Dude, leave the webOS article alone. I'm organizing an effort to add more reference materail. STOP REMOVING THE COMMUNITY SECTION! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bshedwick (talk • contribs) 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Wow, your teachers must have really loved you and your behavior. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

thanks

thanks for your input regarding the anon. In fact, the long standing summary has been agreed upon by various editors per WP:LEAD. I'm assuming that this will be reverted again in the next days. As for me, I'm done for now; I don't have too much time to waste on someone like that. Cheers! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Seb, thanks for the note--but I do believe that these were good-faith efforts. There is a section on the talk page for this? If so, please post the link, here or on the IP's talk page. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I'll get to that later. Need to distract myself for now... tedious stuff like that isn't always healthy ;) ... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm OK with your removing the warnings, they've been received by now anyways. Actually, the npa-warning was for lecturing another editor about his inability to do "grade school math", and other arrogant attack-stunts. This IP (SPI) has a short but aggressive history, hence I might have shot over the rim a bit. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I didn't know that--should have looked a little harder. Thanks for your note Seb, and again, my apologies if I overstepped my boundaries. As for distracting oneself: I made some mushroom-filled ravioli (well, someone else made them for me) and pesto, fresh from the garden, and I'm having a ridiculously expensive beer. You should try that! Drmies (talk) 00:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Ravioli sounds good, but I am strictly non-alcoholic. Btw, no-one "oversteps boundaries", the opposite is true, it helped me not to get tangled up in some silly edit-war, or "lose it" in some other fashion. Thanks, you're on my watchlist now. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
        • Hmm they are far from notable anyways. If you ever change your life's philosophy, give them a try. I'm considering a sex change, to see if I'll still be an asshole if I'm a girl. Take care Seb; I've seen you around and you're doing good work, and I appreciate it. Drmies (talk) 01:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I noticed you have both merged and torn to shreds the Mirpoix /Soffritto pages.

Deleting practically all the text relating to the Italian method of cooking and its applications, I also notice that you did this without discussion. Care to explain? Also, do you have an interest in the actual subject or are you just patrolling Wikipedia on pages you're not well versed in? 78.150.192.118 (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Wow, that's a nice way to open a conversation. Since you ask this way, no, I don't care to explain this to you, but I'll give you some letters: WP:RS and WP:V. One more suggestion: if you want to cuss at me some more, look below the edit screen while you're doing it, where it says "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Concerning Google-fu

In reply to this, I usually search for the most general first, and then refine the searches when I get too many irrelevant hits. In this case I didn't even try searching for the Islamic name, as there are too many possible spelling variants, so I simply did a Google Books search for "De Veenboer", fully expecting to get too many false positives for it to be of any use. It was just luck that the first hit was a children's book with some coverage of our De Veenboer, and the third was the book that I cited in the AfD discussion. You were certainly right to question that "1620 Deaths" book - we can't source articles from Wikipedia mirrors. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks Phil. Listen, ever since I nominated that article (and I didn't enjoy doing so, but AfD sometimes helps improve articles) I've had this Neil Diamond song in my head. Now, Neil Diamond is great, but "Soolaimon" sucks. Later! Drmies (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sheet pan

This information is cited and is formatted better than the above paragraph format. It definitely is encyclopedic and serves as a strong reference in table format. -dchoy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dchoy (talk • contribs) 16:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

• Commercial websites should not function as references. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I think what the good doctor means is that websites that promote specific products or services should not be used as references for those products or services (the New York Times is a commercial website that is usually considered to be a reasonable reference). ^Bongo_matic 17:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Bongo--for the compliment as well. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

drmies is a JEW

This user is part of the Goy cabal aiming for world-dominance.

drmies is a JEW —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.100.174.159 (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

if so, what's your point? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 02:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Haha, look at the user's other contributions (note: I saw that you saw--thanks for keeping it clean). BTW, Seb, I have been accused of being a zionist because of the "Jewish" star on my user page look at the top, right. Come to think of it, this is the first time someone calls me a Jew--I am honored. Shalom, 72.100.174.159! Drmies (talk) 02:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, the five-pointed "Bacon Cabal" star is a Jewish star? That's a good one! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Seb--I'm moving that to my user page right now. Are you joining? Remember, you can't be Jewish! Oh, hey, HalfShadowyou're back: welcome back! Have a Piraat! Now stop devandalizing my talk page! Drmies (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I am not kidding, Mandarax--I was (take a deep breath) accused over the phone at my place of employment by the subject of a Wikipedia article who was running in a primary for some state office in Florida that I was aiming to delete his article because he had a moderate, well-balanced stance on the question of Israel and I was clearly a Zionist with an agenda both on- and off-wiki. Phew. That was fun, but only afterwards. Yes! A bacon star! That was the weirdest wiki moment I ever had. You're really an insomniac? I love sleep. Drmies (talk) 02:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow. I hope that user got banned and I sure hope he lost the election. I joke about stalking you when I peruse your contributions, but that guy's actions were potentially scary.

You love sleep? Well, to quote Joe Walsh, "Ain't never been there, they tell me it's nice ." MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

<--No, it wasn't Ecoleetage, although that was interesting also, but I was only sideways involved. Yes, that person did lose the primary, and a bureaucrat of some rank spoke with them over the phone. Thanks Mandarax for your note--but child duties are calling me. ("Night-Night, Little Pookie"). Drmies (talk) 15:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that the two users were the same. When I heard of telephone harassment I just immediately thought of that other case. (And I didn't know you were involved, sideways or otherwise.) I'm glad to hear that your guy got at least some verbal punishment, and that he lost, not only because of the harassment, but I don't like the idea of someone holding public office who apparently lacks the basic skills required to distinguish between a five-pointed bacon star and a Star of David and then makes accusations based on an erroneous assumption. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Mandarax, your hidden liberal agenda is right there plain for all to see who know the truth. Haha, did I mention that the candidate in question was a Democrat? That made it even worse, in my opinion. You know, I got a lot of mileage out of the story though--that particular star-error is useful in my profession as well, when I teach Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Oh, my bacon-eating Jewish colleague got a a kick out of it as well. BTW, Did I mention already that I'm kind of baconed out? Drmies (talk) 01:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's necessarily the case. Thinking of internationally known scatterbrained politicians, those two immediately sprang to mind, and I can't think of any others.

You had previously mentioned that your wife was baconed out, but I'm surprised to hear it about you. That's good news, as I see an inverse relationship between bacon consumption and life expectancy. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I just got back to this thread, and saw Night-Night, Little Pokey reference, I picked up another one of hers I hadn't seen before the last time I was "inbound" through YYZ, the little guy loved it. His favorite is still Goodnight Moon, which I can recite from memory...--kelapstick (talk) 02:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I must say, even though the section title for this discussion merely exposes the great ignorance (on multiple levels) of the original poster, I find it bothersome. Just me... LadyofShalott 03:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

re African immigration to the United States

Hi Drmies. I'm trying to figure out what is going on here... for instance, in this edit, if I'm reading it right, you reverted the addition of some bluelinked bios to the article. How come? This was a reversion of 23 edits by User:69.180.253.113; you have peppered his talk page with warnings, but why? I haven't looked at the individual edits, but the sum of the 23 edits show here looks at least defensible. He added Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and that person has a Wikipedia article. According to the article she was born and partly raised in Somalia, and now lives in the United States. And so forth. If these people have articles, and are African, and have emigrated to the United States, what is the rationale for excluding them? Herostratus (talk) 04:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Herostratus, you are right: when I clicked rollback I didn't look down enough to see those two additions (the "mocky" link looked like a test to me, and the resulting pictures in the infobox were terrible); I saw them later, after the IP started all over again with test edits--that's what some of those 23 edits (editor doesn't seem to use preview) are, they seriously mess up formatting. The editor has, on the whole, been less than helpful: this latest edit is typical, and a quick look at the history reveals that there isn't much productive going on here. And I didn't exactly pepper their talk page: I placed two warnings there, and I believe I was in my right to do so--the constant re-insertion of incorrect material (not the addition of Ali, obviously--and I know who she is) without any explanation, that is disruptive (I am not the only editor to think so, as the history shows). Mind you, I have no intention of having someone blocked. I am going to put Ali and the other back in--but I will also revert this messing up of the formatting, combined with a "preview" notification template. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for responding. On my slow equipment, it's painful to go through each of these edits. So, no problem. You might want to take a look at Talk:African immigration to the United States#Who is notable?, although I'm afraid I did get rather long-winded. Herostratus (talk) 06:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Ufuoma Ejenobor

Re your message: The article has been restored by the editor, though this time with references. Some of the references are not very good, but it does seem that she is notable in some regard. The article is a mess though. I agree that the puffery is a little over the top. I suspect that this goes beyond a fan. Checking the photos uploaded for the article, the person is likely to be much closer than a fan such as a friend or PR agent. It appears to me to be somebody much closer than just an enthusiastic fan who happened to get into multiple award ceremonies. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• What to do, Gogo? It's like I spent all of yesterday rolling back things. That article is more than a little over the top, fluff-wise: some of the content is ridiculously unencyclopedic, and many of the references are 'references'--see this, for instance. Did you note they also got rid of the nice templated sources I added? Drmies (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Still in good standing?

Hi Drmies. A couple of months ago you were kind enough to encourage me to run for office as an admin. Bolstered by remarks from Bubba hotep, I am now jumping into it. If my casually sexist remark at User talk:SummerPhD#Nice work (saw that one too late to defend myself against your entirely justified criticism ) or the unkind words I spoke (correction: yelled at the top of my voice) about the Dutch National Football Team during the recent World Cup Final haven't caused you to change your mind, my as yet unpublished self-nomination is at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Favonian. Cheers! Favonian (talk) 12:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• You have my vote, Favonian. Let me know when I can sign up--the world can always use more Red, White, Danish Dynamite (I don't agree with that redirect, but soit). Drmies (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks muchly, you now have the chance. There wasn't much Danish Dynamite at the latest World Cup Favonian (talk) 15:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Wow, that went fast--I'm no. 49. Good luck, and thanks for keeping me posted! Drmies (talk) 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence

		The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
		Drmies, I am pleased to award you this MBE in recognition of your outstanding contributions to Wikipedia. Whether it's writing articles, fighting vandalism, or contributing in other ways, your work has been exemplary and has inspired me. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I had decided a long time ago to award this to you in commemoration of either your 100th DYK or my 100,000th edit. I was absolutely certain that your milestone would occur first, but you've kinda been slacking off lately in the DYK department!

Well, this is now a tradition, as I also awarded a long-overdue MBE to another user as my 50,000th edit. Anyways, you're very deserving of this! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Mandarax, thank you so much for your kind and generous words. I promise you I'll get back to DYK (gotta get tenure first, and we just got a new puppy...). I'll say a toast to you and your own milestone (100,000--amazing) with an obscenely expensive beer tonight! Drmies (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome, I'm sorry, and thank you. You're very welcome for my sincere praise. I'm sorry for playfully chiding you about DYK. And thank you for the toast. BTW, I hereby release you from your prior 100,000 commitment. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, you did prompt me to see where 91-100 might come from. Ad Valvas is not one of them. I'm not quite sure what the gift was that I had in mind--but possibly you'd enjoy a tattoo? Hey, this puppy is funny. Not as funny as our almost two-year old, but pretty funny. It's nice to be a human. Oh, many moons ago you posted some statistic about which article we both had worked on. How did you do that? I ran into you again the other day, somewhere. Have a great day! Drmies (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I currently have my third DYK on the nomination page (or, as I like to call it, the Queue queue), and I know of at least four more that I intend to do some day. The MBE committee was very impressed with your 90 DYKs.

The Intersect Contribs tool was showing 798 pages which we've both edited, after my edit to Ad Valvas. Having watched Monk, I realize the value of even numbers, so I did two more minor edits to bring it up to an even 800. Yes, I know, Monk would've done 202 more, but I ain't Monk. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Drmies, I'd like to point out a tiny coincidence. Four months before I awarded you this MBE, you made two consecutive edits in which one edit summary mentioned an MBE and the other mentioned me. Did I say "coincidence"? No, it's evidence of your precognitive abilities. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

This stub I created is ripe for expansion and DKY . . . with a ton of easy and relevant (and currently interesting) links for the hook, such as this, this, and this. ^Bongo_matic 01:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

But Bongo--it's not about bacon, guitars, motorcycles, epic Mongolian literature, or formerly black-only beaches, so I don't know anything about it! Drmies (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's time to expand your horizon to influential Hungarian-American businessmen. ^Bongo_matic 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hochland (magazine)

Hi! Could you please do this translation in your user space and not on a main page. Otherwise it will be very speedily deleted. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 17:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• Yeah, I don't think so, but thank you nonetheless. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Please prepare this translation in your user space and not on a main page. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I read your comment the first time, and didn't think it very helpful. When something like that article comes along, with a lead and a number of references, on a topic that is obviously notable, don't propose speedy deletion unless you want to get slapped on the wrist by a reviewing administrator or a more seasoned editor. Happy trails. Drmies (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know what state the article was in when Kudpung made his/her first comment, but any speedy tag now is likely just to irritate whoever goes to check it out. LadyofShalott 22:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

...Example of the work of a more seasoned editor: [1], and BTW, the children and less seasoned editors on NPP don't provide polite requests, they just shoot CSD from the hip. --Kudpung (talk) 23:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, what I see there is not deletable under any speedy criterion I can think of. The only possible one is recreation of an article from another language wiki, but there is the beginning of a translation along with an underconstruction tag. Granted, someone might tag it for speedy deletion, but that request should have been denied if it were made. LadyofShalott 23:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello Lady--have you seen Alabama Book Festival already? And have I already invited, only for you to turn me down again? With a little bit of luck, Rick Bragg won't be there this year! Drmies (talk) 00:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey Dr Mies, I had not, but now I have - thanks for pointing it out! So, what's the timing for next year? LadyofShalott 03:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Awwww, thanks for the recognition. You may have meant this as a symbolic gesture, which is fine, as my tiny contributions are not worthy. But, for future reference, in case you're unaware of it, when adding someone whose contributions truly merit a DYK credit, you've got to add a {{DYKmake}} for them. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• Mandarax, as I said, some small edits are really big. As for the template you kindly provided--I don't really know what it is or what to make of it! ;) (Seriously, clicking on it doesn't help either--that page explains nothing, and I've noticed, with many of those templates, a glaring lack of talk pages that might provide instructions.) Drmies (talk) 23:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

On behalf of myself and other gnomes, thank you for recognizing the value of small contributions. Yes, the template "documentation" does not appear to be very helpful. Fortunately it's added automatically when you add a new nomination with {{NewDYKnom}}. But to manually add creators/expanders, you'd add a *{{DYKmake|Article name|username}} for each user. If you look at a nomination, you'll see where it goes. Although they're commented out on the nomination page, they're uncommented when moved to Queue, and the bot uses them to actually give credits. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

What do you think...

...of this nomination?--kelapstick (talk) 03:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

...wow Kelapstick...pretty impressive! Drmies (talk) 03:24, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

It was a lot of fun, of course I can't take all the credit. Regarding this edit summary, if you can't trust the word of the Tanzanian Government, who can you trust! Thanks for the cleanup. Cheers, --kelapstick (talk) 03:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, K--glad to be of help. Hey, we got a new puppy! It's tiny! And hairy! And man it screams when you give it a bath. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I read that, the kids must love that. Do you want a 5 year old pug to go with it? Not neurotic at all *rolls eyes*. --kelapstick (talk) 03:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, my oldest daughter is pissed, since the dog likes to sit at my feet in the kitchen (waiting for bacon or chicken to drop, of course), and so she thinks the dog likes me more than her. Oh, and she has picked up every shoe in the house already. This sucks too--she has one of those hard plastic Disney slippers right now, that the kids like to walk around on: imagine the noise that makes on hardwood. Now, if it were up to me, the sooner Lola tears those things up the better, but that teaches her bad behavior, of course... What to do? Drmies (talk) 03:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Julie von Massow

I made a coupla minor edits to Julie von Massow (d'oh! 1001!), but there's a link to the disambiguation page Halle for which I don't know the proper disambiguation. I'm pretty sure it's not Halle Berry, but other than that.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 04:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Chairman Mao badges up for deletion

I thought you might be interested to know that all Mao badges on Commons have been nominated for deletion by User:Sandstein. If you wish to participate in the deletion discussion please check out http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mao_Badge_12.jpg. BabelStone (talk) 11:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• BabelStone, I had a copyright question the other day and found User:Moonriddengirl and User:MLauba to be very knowledgeable and helpful. In these matters, as Manuel used to say, "I know nothing." Thanks for letting me know and good luck with the cause. Drmies (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Doc, I prefer words of wisdom by Sgt. Schultz, "I know nothing, and understand even less". but that's just me.--kelapstick (talk) 13:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Pig?

May I ask why? Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

If you're asking why I added it...well, the whole bakery chain is named after the idiom. I thought it was an amusing tidbit that could either go here or "in popular culture". If you're asking why the bakery is named When Pigs Fly, that I could not say. -- Beland (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

That's why I asked, yes. It seemed like the kind of commercial link that WP:EL advises against. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandal Fighter

Thanks for the look out on my talk page.--Jojhutton (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. Keep the faith, Drmies (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Seasons of Tragedy

Can you rescue this article? Take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seasons of Tragedy. See also benedictum.net for sources.--Cannibaloki 20:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• I don't know, Loki. There's a hit on Blabbermouth, saying it's "critically acclaimed," but I don't see that much evidence of that after a quick look at their site. I'll look again later. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Adlet

Sorry. I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't adding sourced text, I was removing a cut and paste job from http://www.scribd.com/doc/32589268/Encyclopedia-of-Vampires-Werewolves-And-Other-Monsters. Some guy is adding straight cut and pastes from that source to multiple articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.229.37 (talk) 22:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• Gotcha--thanks. I've begun a little bit of work on the article--it's fascinating material and I'm finding some sources with Google Books. Feel free to pitch in--there might be a Did You Know nomination in there. Drmies (talk) 22:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

About that DYK nom, there's a link to the disambiguation page Native Americans, and although I think it should dab to Alaska Natives, I'm not positive that it shouldn't be something else such as Native Americans in the United States. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Mandarax--I'll have to look closely at that; I didn't realize it pointed to a dab page. Isn't that a fascinating topic, though? Drmies (talk) 20:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Random Domains

I collapsed the warnings (inc yours) on User talk:Random Domains.

Of course, the user has 'seen' them, so it has no bearing on their effect, does not preclude a block if they carry on. I'm just trying to get them on track.

I'm sure you'll understand from my message on their talk; I just wanted to let you know, as a courtesy.

I'll try to help them, if at all possible.

Hope you're not annoyed.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

• Not at all, Chaz. Thanks, and thanks for the note! Drmies (talk) 23:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the sock/vandal. Elockid ^(Talk) 17:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. Aren't you simply waiting for the next one? :) Drmies (talk) 17:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

As much as I would love to wait and handle the next account, I gotta go study. :( Elockid ^(Talk) 17:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Dazer Laser

Hey thanks for the help with the Dazer Laser. I was wondering if you could help me structure the article and possibly bring in some pictures? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannesdisilenti (talk • contribs) 18:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. But there isn't much to structure since the article is so short, and barring a large number of secondary sources I don't see how it could expand easily--but if you can find sources you can add text. I don't have any pictures, sorry--I only have lethal weapons (or so my wife tells me). Drmies (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. I'll try to put some time into it tonight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannesdisilenti (talk • contribs) 18:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ioanna Dedi

Can you please explain why you removed this name] from Himara [[2]]? Also the edit summary sounds very weird (nothing to do with blp vio). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexikoua (talk • contribs)

• Of course it has everything to do with BLP violations. You can't claim someone is from somewhere, especially if that somewhere is contentious (the talk page proves that). Read up, at WP:BLP. There's nothing weird about my edit summary, unless you want to claim that your supermodel is dead. A Google search is not a reliable source, obviously, and rather than undo my edit and then place a fact tag there (and a reference to another WP article--but Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia), you should consider writing her article (if indeed she is notable), with references to reliable sources, and then adding her. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Why, may I ask, did you remove the YOUTUBE link from the DAN HAREN page? It was current info about him from FOXSPORTS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.92.152 (talk) 04:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

• YouTube is not a reliable source. If anything verifies something in the article, it should be brought in as a references, not just as a link with no information attached to it, but YouTube links usually don't count as references. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Leopold

I thought we had him discussing as is the wiki way, but no such luck, seems to just want to write his own BLP, tiresome indeed. Off2riorob (talk) 22:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

• That stupid stuff just pisses me off (you'll have noted that my edit was a copy edit as well). "Explain"--well, read the edit summary! I left a note on their talk page as well. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

• Please don't swear at people like this. I'm no fan of how that editor has been behaving either, but doing it when they're blocked looks like taunting them. Could you please refactor that comment? The odd bit of swearing is fine (e.g. I have no issue with "pisses me off" above), but swearing directly at someone is another matter. Fences&Windows 12:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Fences, I'm sorry, but I am remarking on the remark, not on the person, so I don't think it's swearing ("you're full of crap" would be swearing). If you compare the two articles, you see that there is no comparison in this regard. But I'll remove it. Drmies (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Provinciale Zeeuwse Courant

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Borris-in-Ossory

Friend, you are mistaken! I have just spent hours improving the page of my hometown, Borris-in-Ossory, Co. Laois, Ireland. My changes are not vandalism! I have uploaded graphics and built a new info-box. . . I'm very sad that all my work should go to waste! Please explain your reasons. . . if it is because of the missing licenses on the images, I'm just getting to that now. . . or at least I was, when everything went back to the way it had been on that page. I'm going to address the issues of licenses on the images, and then revert the page to the way I had it, and I hope that I won't have any problems once we sort this out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferntallstar (talk • contribs) 01:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

• You'll have to invent the ossory first. Good luck with it. Drmies (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
  • It exists: ossory_(building)
    • Fuck you. . . you've ruined my night. Maybe you should take a closer look at the "vandalism" you so valiantly removed. Borris-in-Ossory has put up with enough grief over it's history from countless scum on the streets, and now you, a representative of the wiki-community, destroy it's history because you doubt the information I'm publishing. I still don't know what your problem is, please explain, cause to me it just looks like someone is deleting my work with no purpose. Ferntallstar (talk) 02:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
      • I usually kiss before I get fucked, so no thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Reversion

I totally agree - I thought the information was a bit iffy and was in the process of looking for verifiable references when you did the first rollback (on the off chance that the edits where real - as they were somewhat plausible). The same info was added in May by a user with a suspiciously similar name. Keep up the good work. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 02:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. I checked the OED, Google Books, etc--it's all BS. Drmies (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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Deletion

Is it possible for the creator of an article to delete their own work? If not, how do I go about having my articles wiped? Karen.watson.emap (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

• Yes it is: see Template:Db-g7. The question is, though, whether you are the only significant contributor to the article. If not, it doesn't apply, and for some of the article you created or worked on it certainly doesn't apply. That's why I suggested bringing it up at the AfD discussion, since that's a likely place for administrators (who decide on those things) to run into your question. But in the meantime, don't mess around with those articles--it's confusing and it just aggravates other editors. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - can you please tell me how to have my article deleted via the AfD discussion? Can an administrator do this? Karen.watson.emap (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Bronx

As in, Bronx cheer. Or, to quote Bill the Cat (the original), "THHPPPPPPT!"--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• Sorry, but I couldn't resist--I find myself saying (writing) that same phrase all the time here, and sometimes I correct myself, and then I feel like an even bigger dope. Happy editing! Drmies (talk) 14:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

"rude editor"?

What's going on here? Two buddies brainessly revert my 100% valid edits, fill my talk page with threats, and I am supposed to be nice? If you consider this valid reception, and if I see it again, I am out of here. (Not that it is a big threat to you, I guess. You will always find other suckers to boss around.) Lojze Pergl (talk) 16:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• Those editors are not my buddies, brainess or not. They got it wrong on that edit on Talk:Lojzo, as did I, because you removed the template without explanation--and then you go on to call people names ([3], [4], [5], etc.). Small wonder they get pissed. I don't know if I'm much of a boss, but if you want to call yourself a sucker, be my guest. I asked one editor to remove what I considered an unjust vandalism warning and they did. I see that you have just been blocked for personal attacks and harassment--that's unfortunate. Perhaps you will come back after your block expires, perhaps not--that's entirely up to you. Drmies (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

The Discussion page is a DISCUSSION.

By censoring the information put forward which pertained directly to the thread you have earned my contempt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarxIzalias (talk • contribs) 17:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• Well, I'm going to sit in a corner and cry. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

About user

Hi, can you help please, a user Mistery Spectre constantly sends me insulting messages on my user talk page, and tries to accuse me of being Bad editor. He came from russian Wikipedia, he don't even know english, he writes various vandalistic things, you can see it in his contributions. Dedmaan (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Dedmaan (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• OK, I see what happened. You are perfectly in your right to remove those messages, and I have reverted the last one, considering it disruptive. However, I urge you to communicate with them on their talk page in English, so that other editors can assess the situation if needs be. Good luck--I hope this blows over. Drop me a line if it doesn't. Drmies (talk) 19:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Dedmaan (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• • Извиняюсь я слишком плохо знаю английский, чтобы свободно выразить свою мысль. Участник "у нас" вёл войны правок с нарушением этичного поведения. Я периодически правлю тут, и заметил что тут правки участника практически такие же. Например в статье Jazz Fusion он регулярно возвращал своё видение на жанр, не смотря на то что другие участники регулярно возвращали старый вариант. И как вы сами видите выше, он назвал мои правки вандализмом и оскорблениями без какой либо аргументации. А также полу-уличный стиль общения в этой реплике [6]. Может я перегнул палку в лексике, но участник сносил мой текст как "убран спам", поэтому я его несколько раз вернул. Реплики я свои конечно восстанавливать не буду, но всё таки сложно воспринимать когда участник имея 2 блокировки за оскорбления, продолжает тоже самое в другой вики. После этого я попытаюсь использовать английский язык, прошу прощения. Mistery Spectre (talk) 20:11, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• P.S. In this case, I can remove the partition created by a user? Constructive text is not bigger than my Prevention Mistery Spectre (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2010 (UTC)