User talk:AlanM1/Archive F

Archived at 2020-09-16T02:50Z

List of Disasters in Korea

As a diversion, I recently produced this list in my sandbox. I see you are an experienced editor and interested in lists. Could you take a look at it and opine if it is suitable for inclusion in the articlespace? User:PaulinSaudi/sandbox

Regards, ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 03:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@PaulinSaudi: You might first check (if you haven't already) that there isn't a similar article, maybe my searching for two or three of the places occuring in the same article. Maybe also inquire at WP:WikiProject Korea. As far as the table itself, I suggest a few changes, which I've implemented in the sample below that covers the first few rows. Some significant points:

• Specifying column widths is discouraged – generally let the browser take care of that. If you really have to (in some other case), use "em" units instead of pixels.
• Make the table sortable so people can find things easily.
• Combine the year and date into one sortable date column. Note the use of data-sort-value="1 August 1975" | August–October 1975 to tell it where you want to sort something that isn't a single, properly-formed date.
• You might make the Description column unsortable (like I did for the Notes column) unless it's going to contain consistently formatted descriptions that make sorting it useful.

Date	Location	People killed	Description	Notes
5 January 1953	En route between Yeosu and Busan	229	Ferry MV Changgyeong sinking	Ferryboat accident
11 December 1969	Departed from Gangneung Air Base	0	Korean Air Lines YS-11 hijacking	Mass kidnapping by North Korea
27 November 1971	Kimpo	6	Mass shooting	Need better cite
28 December 1971	Seoul	164	Daeyeonggak Hotel fire	Deadliest hotel fire in history
30 December 1972	En route between Seogwipo-si to Seongsanpo Port	323–326	Sinking of Namyoung-Ho	Ferry accident
August–October 1975	Widespread	17	Serial killing spree

I hope this helps. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:47, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Certainly your comments help. Thank you. The table needs work and I will monkey with it if I decide to publish it. I am just wondering if it is worth having at all. It seems to single out Korea. (On the other hand it does seem they have a lot of disasters.) Thank you again. ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 04:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Allan

I read everything as per the correction and again had corrected my draft, The issue mentioned here is the person is not much notable person, but I had provided proofs stating he and his works are notables and also have give in this final draft as a neutral point of view, I have seen people who has not much references articles been accepted into Wikipedia, But I didn’t understand why just not mine, when I have worked so hard to collect full data about the person Kjsarat (talk) 08:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kjsarat: Robert McClenon is the reviewer who last declined the article. Please contact him by posting at Draft talk:Vishnu Sarma starting with the code {{Re|Robert McClenon}} (which produces "@Robert McClenon:" and notifies him of the message) if you need clarification on why your sources were insufficient to establish notability. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

sorry...

sorry.. I was just confused. I wont do that again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firestar9990 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

My signature

Hi Alan, thank you for the heads up. Can you point me to where it says I cannot have anything after the date/time stamp? As as a reminder you should not be editing my signature or any comments I make per WP:TPO so next time, please let me know instead of editing my information.

Thanks, Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 06:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Galendalia: It should be somewhere in WP:SIG, but you can also see consensus in the posts of virtually all experienced editors. The reason is that various scripts (archivers, indexers, time-zone translators, etc.), at various times, have relied on the timestamps being last and properly formatted. It's unfortunate that it isn't done automatically, so this is the what we're left with having to do. As far as editing, fixing syntactical issues and other non-content problems is a valid exception. Just trying to keep things organized. I probably should have not removed "Teahouse Host", and instead just moved it before the timestamp. Since I've seen a couple variations on the theme from you, I didn't know if it was something you were going to keep around or just an ad-hoc thing, so I felt the notification from the edit summary was sufficient. Anyway, I'm sorry if I over-stepped, but please try to help by using a standard sig. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

AlanM1 - Thanks. I have removed it from the signature altogether. 20:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate}

@Galendalia: Your sig above still demonstrates the problem, with most of it being after the timestamp. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed that but I used just the ~~~~ and that is what it placed. I did a preview before posting this and it is working. I think it is a different issue lol. Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 20:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Galendalia: Just to confirm, if you type below: This is my message. ~~~~ and preview it, you should get This is my message. , followed by your customized signature, followed by 20:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC) with nothing else following it, and when you then "Publish changes", it should appear the same. If that is not the case, I suggest you blank out your custom signature (at Special:Preferences) and try it again to see if it's something in that custom code (things like stray RTL/LTR markers can cause text to get flipped). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

(ec) @Galendalia: I see it has been fixed now (in the sig at 20:45). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

More help needed!

Hey Alan! This is Jenhawk777. You helped me out at the Teahouse, have shown up at the Role of Christianity in civilization to help there, and I am hoping to take advantage of your kind nature and get you to help me some more on an article I've been working on for quite some time now. I want to take it to GA or FA or any other A out there so I am trying to get all the references in order--some left from previous authors are problematic--and some I don't know what to do with as there are no page numbers made available from the source. What I would really really really like is if someone who is both knowledgable and kind--like you--might be interested enough to take a look and tell me what you think about the article overall--or anything really. I'm still not very knowledgable as, even though I started a couple years ago, I took a break for over a year so I still don't know much! It's here: [1]. Whatever you decide, it's okay, I understand you have a life of your own. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:13, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: I'll try to have a look on the weekend. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:22, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate it. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: There was an error in the references with the ref name="Johnson" being defined twice – for the (2015) Oxford Handbook of Late Antiquity and for the Johnson, Koyama (2019) Persecution and Toleration The Long Road to Religious Freedom. I changed the former to "OHLA-2015" and changed the obvious references to it (they were all to page 861), but don't know which source the cite at the end of this section (pp. 7, 8) was supposed to point to (it currently points to "Johnson", which I'm guessing is correct).

It's not a subject I've spent much time on, so I don't think I can be of much help. I'll have to defer any significant analysis to those who have. It seems to be well-watched and it looks like you're getting plenty of discussion on the talk page.

BTW, it's helpful if, when referring to pages in discussions, you use the internal link form (History of Christian thought on persecution and tolerance in this case) instead of an external link. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 12:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: I'll spend some time on it now with AWB to handle some minor stuff like Template:Rp#Hyphens. I've added the {{In use}} template and will remove it when I'm done (should be less than an hour). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 13:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Alex this is wonderful of you. I am genuinely grateful. I went and looked at your user page--25,000 edits--Holy Toledo!! You are amazing! I think I have 12--or something close... :-) I'd say I want to grow up to be you, but I know absolutely nothing about programming. I was into math when I was young, but took another path and it's something that you forget if you don't use it--like any language I guess. I admire anyone who stuck with it.

You don't happen to know anyone who would be willing to take a look at content do you? The help you have already given is greatly appreciated whether you do or not. It's just that I'm having trouble finding anyone willing to review it. Probably no point in worrying about it till I get those refs perfect! And you've put me a step closer to that. Thanx again! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Sorry – I can't think of anyone in particular to help with content. You've certainly got your work cut out for you on those refs. There's quite a hodgepodge of random styles and mistakes. That's what old, big articles like that tend to look like. I can only imagine what it was like before your rather impressive collection of edits to it. I'll try to do some work on it when I feel up to the challenge. I should be done with the wide-ranging changes and be able to stick to one section at a time so we hopefully won't collide. More to follow at the talk page. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Wow. I mean, I just don't know what else to say. Thank you. I have access to others on content, so no worries mate. If not support, it's always easy to find opposition in this subject area, and criticism is probably worth more in the long run than praise anyway, so it will all work out. Someone will show up--I think one has--and start tearing into it and we will eventually end up working together to make this the article it should be. Thank you so much for all your help. All these little details really get to me at times. I am definitely more of a big picture person. :-) Best wishes to you and yours--staying healthy I hope. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:58, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

I can't thank you enough for all your help. I am quite overwhelmed. I doubt I can ever return the favor--ask please if I can--but I promise I will do my best to pass your attitude and spirit on to others. You are what WP should always be. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Thanks. Just trying to do my part where I can. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

You have no way of knowing, but I am actually only recently back to WP after more than a year's absence because of some very bad experiences with an editor who was harassing me--and not just me, but enough others that he is now banned from WP. In a year, he is allowed to ask arbitration to come back again, and if he does, that is probably the last you will see of me. In the meantime, I am delighted to find people like you--you can't know how much. Nothing special to you, I'm sure, this is your every day you, but perhaps you can understand that it has been quite special to me. I hope to see you around and about again! Happy editing! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Well, that would be a shame, because you are a definite plus to the project. Hopefully, things will go the way they should. Even if the person is allowed back, I imagine there will be restrictions to keep them away from previous drama, so you should be safe from them. (I'll try to restrain my curiousity to dig into it any further, as it's not likely anything I can do anything about, and there's enough drama in my life without such things. ) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

It went to arbitration a month or so ago, and it's all closed out and finished now--no ongoing drama of any kind--just gratitude from me to arbitration. I had lost faith in WP's processes for awhile there, and learned from the experience that the wheels of justice may turn slowly here, but they do turn. It restored my faith--as you have also done--so no drama, just all around goodness. I just wanted you to know. I would have been grateful for all your help under normal circumstances, but under mine, I was doubly so.Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

wikipedia

Hello, thanks for answering my question, but, I have already searched and I do not see any .zim file from 2020, only this: "wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2018-06.zim Jul 18, 2018 21:21 82927821201", I am already downloading it, but I I would like this year's version, could you help me? Thank you very much for your service to the wiki.

--Makebos (talk) 18:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Makebos: Sorry, but it's not something I've dealt with. Perhaps try asking at WP:VPT. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse

Hi, I added reply can you check? Baran Ahmet (talk) 16:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi, you seem like a veteran at Wikipedia is was wondering if you could teach me how to add a child's page to someone's Wikipedia and get it to the front page, so when you search the person you can see the list of children — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koolkidz999 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Koolkidz999: I'm afraid I don't understand what you intend. Can you please re-phrase, perhaps with more details about what you want to do and to which page? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Categorizing Redirects

I found what effectively answers my question about categorizing redirects. I was asking for a simple list of redirect types. What I wanted to be able to do is offered by Twinkle with the 'tag' feature for redirects. Tagging articles applies issue tags. Tagging redirects tags them with redirect categories, with most of the categories that one is likely to want to use. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Thanks – that's pretty cool! I always have to look up those category templates. I really need to remember that there's more to Twinkle than just posting user templates. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:18, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ronald Graham

On 9 July 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ronald Graham, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 09:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Advice for newcomers

Hello,
You are receiving this message because you are invited to take part at Wikipedia:Advice for newcomers where you can provide advice that will help our newcomers in the future. It is not a discussion forum, just a place where you say what advice would be helpful to our future editors. I would like to get at least 100 editors to take part in this so please feel free to spread the word to other editors as well. I look forward to seeing what you say to newcomers. Interstellarity (talk) 13:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Role of Christianity in Civilization

Hey Alan! How have you been? Need me to fight any dragons for you?  :-) I would you know. I think I have finished redoing the reference format on Role of Christianity in civilization that you tagged, so if you could give it the old once over and see if it's okay, maybe you could consider removing the tag. What do we do with the bibliography then? Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:32, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Hi. I'll try to have a look tonight. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Awesome. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

Hello, I'm TuskDeer. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Dave Carter, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. TuskDeer (talk) 19:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@TuskDeer: I believe you are incorrect. Please see the edit summary, where I referenced the significant talk page discussion, including the fact that it is supported by the references. It turned out that the article was inconsistent even in the previous state, which I'm spending significant time on fixing, again per consensus. Please revert your reverts so I can continue working on it without have to further confuse things. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, so sorry for the late reply. That was 100% on me for messing up your useful edits. Thank you for taking the time to fix everything following consensus. TuskDeer (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Dave Carter

Hi, so sorry about that ?gender change. I've contacted Ohconfucius, the script manager, to ask how such a weird thing happened. Tony (talk) 05:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Tony1: The gender change wasn't done by your edit. It's been edit-warred back and forth. I rolled back to get to a somewhat correct version before the most recent edit war, fixed what was left, and then re-applied some of your script's changes by hand. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it. I thought our script had been taken over by aliens. My best. Tony (talk) 06:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

SCOTUS Infobox / Oyez

Hey,

Regarding this now-archived discussion, just wondering what came of it? Did you run into any issues implementing the change?

Thanks, ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 16:42, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Deleting birthdate

I have been personally instructed by the person who is the subject of his Wikipedia page to remove his birthdate but it was repeatedly put back. As it is his strong wish to keep his birthdate private, how should I go about making my case? Thank you. Poonchuifun (talk) 17:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

The Srbernadette problem

I was wondering if you were aware of the problem with Srbernadette when you gave an answer here. Yes, I'm way behind reading the archives.

A number of Help Desk questions from various IPs are suspected of being Srbernadette. Those who answer questions just go ahead and help this person. In your case, you didn't seem to realize who it might be because you suggested asking Srbernadette for help.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:19, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: I don't think I had yet become aware that the IP editor was also editing as Srbernadette when I wrote that, though I've wasted plenty of time on discussions about the IP editor. There was a discussion or twelve in places including User talk:Star Mississippi#Srbernadette, including an admin or two, including a suggestion to go to ANI with it. The fact that the participating admins didn't act, though, has kept me from pursuing a CIR complaint at AN*. I haven't reviewed their recent edits, but I don't recall seeing much at the help desk or Teahouse since their (failed) promise not to edit any more, either. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

And if I had just waited, I would have seen this. By this time, you did know.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: I'm afraid your point is lost on me. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:55, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

The first of your responses was "They've been told that, and other things, many, many times. Apparently, we're all here to clean up after them. Ideas?" This is exactly what I described.

Actually, my main point was that if I had waited, I would have seen you knew who Srbernadette was and wouldn't have had to ask you if you were aware..— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Hey! Thanks for all your tasty contributions to 'pedia . Hope you'll enjoy this bubble tea ^_^ He@ven's Queent@lk 15:22, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for edits, merging sources

thanks for the work on my article Handschriftencensus. I was planning on setting about learning how to do that but it was getting late here in Germany. I looked at the source code to see how its done, thanks again! Hroberth Dunbar ˜˜˜˜ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hroberth Dunbar (talk • contribs) 08:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

It was really helpful, Regards UMAGPR (talk) 00:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry

sorry, User:AlanM1 I joined Wikipedia one month ago, I am still going through all Wikipedia rules and regulation, but your edit was really helpful.  Thank you very much! Regards UMAGPR (talk) 01:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on BiostatSci talk page

Hi Alan,

I wrote a message to you on my talk page, but I'm not sure that I did so in way that you would be notified automatically. So, I'm leaving this message to alert you to the fact that it is there. Sorry if it duplicates a notification that you have already received. Thanks. BiostatSci (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

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question

Hello friend, the reason I had a question bothered you. I want to create an article and I am looking for topics that need to be created in the wiki. Can you help and introduce me to topics so that I can create them?Because I have just logged in and I am very interested in the wiki and I want to help guard it as much as I can.AppoWeb (talk) 02:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply.--✔APO ^Discuss😊 03:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@AppoWeb: Creating new articles is really one of the hardest things to do for a new editor. It takes a lot of time to research a set of reliable sources necessary to establish notability, then summarize them with encyclopedic tone and grammar into a reasonable article. I can't imagine doing so without a lot of knowledge that comes only with experience. I've been here over 12 years and I would find it difficult, and would need to look up things constantly along the way.

If you insist, please start by reading and digesting WP:YFA and the pages to which it links. WP:Requested articles (actually its subpages) is one place where you might find subjects for which people have requested articles. Note that the pages are not well-maintained and you have to search to make sure an article about the subject has not already been created or that it has not already been covered sufficiently within another article; also, there's no guarantee that the subject requested is notable, or that, even if sources are provided, that they meet the requirements of WP:RS. All this is up to the potential writer of the article to determine. Like I said, it's hard stuff.

I recommend continuing to gain experience by editing existing articles, starting small with typos and vandalism, and working up to copy-editing and other types of more complicated edits, like tables, graphs, images, geolocation/coordinates, categories, etc. There's a lot to learn here. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

yes perfectly right My friend and I still have to edit to create a general article to learn how to create an article and now I want to help guard and I hope I can help Thank you my friend.🆔 APO ^Discuss✍ 03:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi my friend I am well apologized yesterday B I said to edit to learn now two users on my discussion page b have attacked and say why you have errors in your opinion I newcomer should not have an error I am not old user i know everything I should edit to learn.Please help me to stop these two users, I am very upset with the fact that I accepted that I made a mistake with words like stupid humiliate me.AP ^(Talk) 23:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@AppoWeb: One user called you "stupid" and shouldn't have. It's over now. I can't spank them for you, and admins will not take action unless there is a longer-term problem (which there isn't). I'd take some time to cool off, and then come back (if you want) and focus on things that require less experience, like correcting obvious typos, spelling errors, obvious vandalism (like bad words, gibberish, unexplained giant deletions of text), etc. Remember to AGF – every edit you undo or article you think should be deleted is someone's work. You will, over time, gain experience to be able to better judge the more complicated areas and situations (like AfD, which is often contentious, and which I personally stay away from), and your contributions will be welcome. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:55, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, my dear friend. I was really upset when they called me stupid. I hope they do not bother me anymore. Thank you for your kindness.AP ^(Talk) 00:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi My friend, another user from the same two previous friends has started harassing me. Please help me. These are bothering me.I even send welcome messages to new users, they criticize me and attack me quickly Please help me, I do not know why they started attacking me.Because I tagged their articles, they started attacking me from all sides and threatening me that I should leave the wiki.They even change my talk page that I designed to their liking, please help me.Ap ^{(Talk • contribs)} 02:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	For replying in Teahouse. RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 05:12, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Love is a Mix Tape

• Link: Love Is a Mix Tape

Hello. This book was reviewed widely at the time of its release. I would get rid of the quote--there are more than enough reviews from RS to add. I believe it was also the author's first book; he's a respected music journalist who has gone on to publish many others. Have a good day. Caro7200 (talk) 15:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Caro7200 and MarkZusab: Thanks for your work on it. I PROD'd it because it had basically been ignored for 14 years, and wasn't feeling very hopeful that yet another tagging would work, after having visited several abandoned messes in a row. I think I need to limit my intake. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Sodium Oleate

Can you tap on the link and help me?Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 05:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC). The problem is that I was seeing the tips but broke again the chembox.

Thank you

Hey there, I'm glad you left this. This slash stuff is a weird meme that has been exploding in Indian TV articles. It's been driving me nuts for a couple of years, and it's part of what I call the Campaign of Ignorance. Check out the cast list in this version of an Indian TV article. And in the case you flagged, I'm going to guess that Bhagya is an actor's name, and the person was trying to ineffectively indicate that Bhagya replaced Sreekumar. But how do I know for sure if it's ambiguous? Take care, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Viusasa

hey, the article viusasa is in total chaos. please help me edit it, it is a reasonable article to check. please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvin kipchumba kosgei (talk • contribs) 10:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Alvin kipchumba kosgei: I'm sorry, but it's not a subject I know anything about. Moving it to article space after it was declined, without resolving the reviewers' comments, was definitely the wrong thing to do. Hopefully, an admin will move it back to a draft, where you may work on it when you find some real WP:reliable sources. That's really the key – without those sources that establish notability, Wikipedia can not have the article.

I see now that it's been deleted. You can see WP:REFUND to request a copy from the deleting admin, Shirt58, if you like. You can instead just start over, editing Draft:Viusasa (just remove the existing contents) once you find at least three independent reliable sources. If you haven't already (or maybe if you have), please read WP:YFA. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

(Pinging Alvin kipchumba kosgei) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of List of United States Representatives from Nevada/Sdr

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@Power~enwiki: So, I was trying to create a template to use for the article's table column with date ranges in it, but I can't seem to make the {{/Sdr}} work (it works if I give it the full {{List of United States Representatives from Nevada/Sdr}}). The docs seem to say that subpages of mainspace pages cannot be created, but I was able to create it, so I thought it might work. Do you have a suggested solution? I'm not sure there is a general-purpose use for the template to justify putting in the Template namespace, though I guess I could parameterize the inserted line break to make it more generally useful. Input welcome (please). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

You can certainly create templates in the Template: with the "/" character in their name, though I don't believe they are subpages and relative links won't work. I'm not sure what else you're trying to do; doing a sub-page in mainspace certainly won't work and should be deleted. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Power~enwiki: I wanted to do {{/Sdr|March 4, 1921|March 3, 1923}} instead of the ugly and more likely to be wrecked by editors in the future: {{Sad|March 4, 1921|after=&nbsp;&ndash;<br />March 3, 1923}}. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't know enough to say one way or another, but it seems to me that you should either go for the ugly way, or create {{Sdr}} for a formatting with a line break. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:58, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Also also: I really don't understand why an nbsp would be needed before the <br>. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Power~enwiki: I'll do the latter. Nbsp per MOS:DASH to make sure it doesn't line-break before it, just in case a browser/display combination happens to come up with a reason (no harm, AFAIK). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

HELP!!

Alan!!! I am in real need of help, and you are the only person I can think of who might even be able to attempt this. Let me explain. I started a rewrite of Biblical criticism here in May 2018. In October 2018, I started taking it to FA, but due to the 'unpleasantness' at the time, I left WP and didn't complete the FA. So now I am going through it in an attempt to polish, etc, and start FA again, and in running the copyvio detector I have found 2 outside WP places that have copied from the WP article. They are now showing up as copy vios on the article. One was in a published journal, so it was easy to exclude by date, but this one [2] I cannot find a date for. All I really need to prove they copied me, and I did not copy them, is the date that web-post went up, and I don't know how to find such a thing. Otherwise, this will probably prevent it from achieving FA, and while that won't kill me, it will certainly be a big disappointment. I Googled 'tichanlorsmagboa' looking for a profile or home site of some sort and while there are about 75 sites, most are dating sites, and I could never find anything directly about them, him, her, it. I don't even know if what I am asking of you is possible, but if it is, can you find proof of a date for that post? I would say I'd be forever in your debt, but I already am, so you will just have to accept more adoration and awe and my genuine gratitude if you can do this. Thank you, Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: I'm having a busy day (for a change), so I'm afraid I won't be able to get to this quickly, but I'll try to look into it tonight (US time). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:16, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Alan, anytime you can spend on it will be appreciated. I also asked Paleoneonate for help because he is a computer programmer in the real world--you two are the only ones I know--but he didn't have any luck. We think they're Russian--for real. I just need some way to show it is a backwards copyvio and not mine--anything at all would be a help.Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Answered at User talk:Diannaa#Help. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:35, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Special Barnstar
		There was no barnstar that seemed perfect, so I am using this one to thank you for being such a stand up guy. Thank You. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:32, 12 September 2020 (UTC)