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Hello Bovineone/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! You 18:58, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Handbook of Texas proposed deletion[edit]

Please go here and express your opinion on whether Category:Handbook of Texas citations should be deleted. As a Wikipedian in Texas, your opinion on this topic is particularly valuable. 17:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC).

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


WikiThanks.png Thank you for your contribution at Pune.
Please keep it up!!! - P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Houston ISD and "Houston public education"[edit]

The reason why I had some schools in both categories is because Houston ISD does not cover all of the city of Houston. Many areas of Houston are in other school districts. WhisperToMe 23:42, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I can understand that some of the schools in the city of Houston are other school districts. As far as I know, the only schools that I removed from Category:Houston public education were ones that legitimately were also a member of Category:Houston Independent School District. Schools that are in HISD are implicitly a member of HPE because of the subcategoriziation structure. Since HISD contains nearly 300 schools in total (even though articles for all of them do not yet exist today), it is desirable to keep them in only HISD if they are indeed a HISD school, rather than cluttering both the HISD and HPE categories simultaneously. Indeed, creating subcategories for each of the other school districts might be desirable in the future, but I do not think it is necessary yet. -- Bovineone 06:07, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


Gee, I see we've both edited Pasadena, California, Houston, Texas, and Pune, India. Ain't Wikipedia grand? (See you at Timbuktu!) Thanks for your contributions. Cheers, -Willmcw 07:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

yup, you're welcome -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Diwali[edit]

Tamaso ma jyotir gamaya ( Lead me from darkness to light.)
Wish you Happy Diwali

- P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.
kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Simon Wessely[edit]

I had already linkified all those items, but anon user: undid it when he (once again) performed a paragraph-by-paragraph reversion to a strongly POV version which I have repeatedly toned down. There are there users with no edit history outside of this article who are intent on making it a hatchet job against the subject; one of them is User:The One Click Group, which is a phrase which appears in the text (it's a sufferers' group). The three have an agenda against Wessely and are systematically undoing any change which presents him in anything less than unflattering terms. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 08:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Much of that article seems to be written in a strangely non-encyclopaedic style. It reads like it was copied verbatim from some webpage, especially since there are so few wiki-links. You should work on reducing the amount of wordiness there; it doesn't seem like he is significant enough to deserve so many words in any case. Bovineone 08:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


  • Thanks for adding that info on the Raiders to the Pasadena entry. It was informative. Do you think LA will get a team? If so, which city do you think will get one? --Jason Gastrich 06:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I have no idea. I suppose it all depends on who is willing to pay the most and provide the best accomodations to attract a team. -- Bovineone 06:34, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Home and Away[edit]

Hi, you have voted in the afd for various Home&Away character articles. I have had a go at combining all the articles in a single article (which I admit still needs a lot of work). You can find it at Current Home and Away characters. I suggest we keep this article are either delete or re-direct the others. What do you think? Thanks, Evil Eye 13:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, I like that new single page very much. good work! -- Bovineone 16:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:US-airport and User:Rsvpair[edit]

Please watch your tone in discussions like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rsvpair. I understand that the RSVP Air folks did a couple of things that make them look like spammers. BUT, they are far from "hostile." Now that they have learned a bit about how things work around here, they are happy to follow Wikipedia practices. Please see the discussion at Template talk:US-airport. Most of all, remember to Wikipedia:Assume good faith and don't bite the newbies. If anyone here is hostile at this point, it's you. FreplySpang (talk) 00:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


From the HMC changelist when some added "WIBSTR": "rvv to last by; bad westie". Nice. —BenFrantzDale 23:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. :) -- Bovineone 03:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


Regarding your current edit to Windows Vista, I'd like to respectfully point out that the codename for this version of Windows is Vista, and was formerly Longhorn. They are both one and the same. (Proof and more proof) — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 07:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't dispute that, and none of my changes relate to the use of the terms Longhorn or Vista. I think you have confused my edits with someone else's. -- Bovineone 17:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


I saw your edit on Dorset naga pepper. And I just wanted to say hi to a fellow bovine.

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Note about Template:main usage in Periodic table#History[edit]

I see you added a note in the Periodic table#History source to "Please be mindful of the talk page discussions that have determined Template:Main's appearance." What part of that discussion (somewhere in Template talk:Main I assume?) did you have in mind? Did you have some concern of particular relevance to Periodic table, or was this a general warning to unwary (unwary of...?) editors? DMacks 02:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

That comment was the result of "subst" on Template:main, and is not a direct comment from me. In retrospect, I didn't mean to subst it, so I've re-edited it to remove it. -- Bovineone 03:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. 03:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

the Colonel's military title[edit]

Bruce Hampton is his family's first male descendant, in a very long line of distinguished militay titans, to NOT join the service. That must have taken a lot of guts, and he must have faced tremendous pressure, because he essentially broke with tradition and ended the esteemed family's proud heritage. When Bruce was called in to interview with the selective service, in 1967 or 1968, I forget exactly, he arrived wearing one of the family patriarchs' decorated uniforms, complete with marine style crew cut. But Bruce had the barber carve a big capitol H in the center of the back of his head. He spent the entire interview discussing military history and strategies, successful and otherwise. Like each of the other members of the Grease band, Bruce was not called up for service, even though he insisted he had a family obligation to honor. This may have been Bruce's very first performance art piece. How do I know? I grew up with these guys. My childhood friend, Wayne Phillips, older brothers were original bass and guitar players in the Grease band, and they used to practice in Charlie and Glenn Phillips parents house. That big H made quite an impression. Bruce also went through another incarnation as, briefly, Hampton B. Coles, Ret.

Thanks, I've added your comment to the Talk section of Colonel Bruce Hampton for others to be aware of. -- Bovineone 16:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

mr roboto[edit]

"however there is no obvious relevance to the article"

ok, but what argument do you use to back up this claim? do you even know who kraftwerk are? have you even seen thx1138 or sleeper? the mr roboto aesthetic and concept (not to mention the concepts in the rock opera) are clearly taken from my references. ok, so i don't have the time or the energy to write this into the main "mr roboto" document (not now, at least); but for now i give the "see also" links. why do you just delete before even figuring stuff out for yourself? why this sort of automatic logic which seems to go like:

  1. .-to me, these links don't seem to have an obvious relevance to the article
  2. .-tell user i'm deleting
  3. .-delete

what ever happened to:

  1. .-to me, these links don't seem to have an obvious relevance to the article
  2. .-figure out what the hell this is all about
  3. .-try to ask around and figure the relevance out for myself (since i don't know everything about everything)
  4. .-tell user NOT THAT I'M DELETING, but that he should try to factor in the relevance, because most people miss it
  5. .-if all else fails, delete

i tend to find this "i know everything and if what i find doesn't square with my limited knowledge i delete" attitude in wikipedia a lot lately and i bothers me very very much. please change your attitude, because it's not very constructive. just because you're an expert in assembly language does not make you an expert in every field; in this case art, and more specifically conceptual influence in musical themes and aesthetics. thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Verbose (talkcontribs) .

Actually I did give you time to respond and correct it. You added the links on 2006-05-16. I notified you on 2006-05-16 on your talk page but you never responded. So after waiting 8 days, on 2006-05-24 I removed the unexplained links and mentioned the reason in the edit summary. I then posted another message on your Talk page, inviting you to re-contribute them in the established standard on the page. -- Bovineone 16:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I might also point out that none of the 5 links you added have a corresponding back-link to Mr. Roboto, so it is reasonable for there to have been suspicion regarding their relevance. If the links have a valid connection that is not self-evident to me, then they are likely not evident to another casual user that is also unfamiliar with the topic. So therefore it would be reasonable to need additional explanation besides just a blind link. The "See also" guidelines say explicitly "When the relevance of the added links is not immediately apparent, provide a brief explanatory sentence". Furthermore, you might also want to review WP:NPA regarding no personal attacks. -- Bovineone 17:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

re WebSphere MQ[edit]

Websphere MQ was renamed to WebSphere MQ per your request at WP:RM. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Bovineone, Help me out.[edit]

I posted a link to our product on the Commercial Software section of the Backup Software article, but it got deleted. I just checked the logs and noticed that you deleted it as spam. I guess you are the moderator for this article.

I live in the Austin Area too. Help me understand what it takes to get listed on the Commercial Products section of your article. Our OS/2 Product from 1993, holds the distinction as being the very first commercially available 32bit Multi-Threaded Backup software, and the first product to offer complete disaster recovery from a boot disk. I'll be glad to document this for you.



Mkupka 05:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I've responded on your talk page. -- Bovineone 06:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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kthx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Did you try to censor information about[edit]


I'm a new Wikipedian editor but I know that is wasting its member's resources. I know this is true and it is legible for the public to know about the information.

Thank you, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MoonFlute (talkcontribs) .

nope, just maintaining NPOV and verifiability of statements. -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

ISS EarthKAM[edit]

Hello! Thanks for fixing the logo on the page for ISS EarthKAM. Out of curiosity, what is your connection to the program, if any? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jessi Schoner (talkcontribs) .

While a high-school student I used to work at JPL for the Kidsat program in 1996 and coded the first Data System webpages (geo map navigator and photo viewer), and also the first versions of the Flight Software that ran aboard the Thinkpad laptop onboard the shuttle to control the camera to take the pictures. Development of both eventually moved to UCSD after I graduated. What's your relationship? Bovineone 01:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Calling Programers[edit]

We need coders for the WikiProject Disambigation fixer. We need to make a program to make faster and easier the fixing of links. We will be happy if you could check the project. You can Help! --Neo139 08:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

no thx -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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kthx, i added back the correct tag. -- Bovineone 00:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Working Man[edit]

Working Man's Barnstar.png The Working Man's Barnstar
This award is for your cleanup of the Fox News Channel sources, as well as other tireless and meticulous edits. :) /Blaxthos 22:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Hows about it?[edit]

I got a proposition for you. How about me and you work on the article Brotherly Love Us TV series, Dig it up from the ground, I read that you've added alot to the article. It's on my watchlist, so how about it? Ace Fighter 22:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Ace Fighter 22:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

What else do you want to do to it? I've already done pretty much all I can for it I think. Since I've never actually seen an episode, it's a little difficult for me to contribute much additional content to it. I will try looking for some screencaps from the net for an image to include though. -- Bovineone 09:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

That's true, and it was cancelled on Family JUST when I was editing this. Plus there isn't a way to expand on it. Even with it on T.V., it's hard too. Oh well. I'm working on the Sinbad Show as well. Ace Fighter 18:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Good shot!, Just like the one I requested. Your job is done! Ace Fighter 18:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


That's what I get for stub-sorting at 5 am...:P Her Pegship (tis herself) 17:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I looked through a few of the other Star trek episode pages that you updated, but didn't see any other problems, so I think that one was the only one. -- Bovineone 17:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit to US-airport[edit]

Jeff -

Writing in regarding your edit to US-airport template that a) I added to discussion page and b) had a discussion with MJHankel about the addition of the link and c) seems to be figuring out a way to remove it instead of a way to keep it (the reasons for removal keep changing).

Simply looking at the nature of the link in the same light as Flight Aware and AirNav, the link to MyMetar is complimentary. It is providing pilots "flight rules" interpretation that is not provided by other services. "Flight rules" applies to the analysis of the current conditions and labeling the conditions as "Visual", "Marginal Visual", "Instrument Conditions", "Low Instrument Conditions". Pilots use this information to determine whether it is legal to fly given their certificate rating. The website is also a gratis service.

The FlightAware link was added in October 2005. FlightAware did not launch until November 2005. At the time the link was added, they had few users. MyMetar went public beta in October 2006 and is running 2M hits through it annualized.

I'm confused by, from my point of view, appears to be an inconsistent application of logic. Do I need to wait for other users of post the link? If the addition of the link is a valid and value adding contribution when objectively evaluated on the merits of the content provided, does the source matter?


-tweihs—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tweihs (talkcontribs).

Notability is one major concern regarding inclusion status, for which wikipedia has established policies. does not even appear to be in Alex's top 100,000 ranking. As I mentioned in the talk page, there also doesn't appear to yet be any significant amount of Google hits that would qualify mymetar's notability.
I am also a little concerned about the premise that your site is being positioned towards pilots to rely on your site to judge the safety of flying conditions. There are significant liability concerns about offering a non-certified source for such safety information. All pilots are expected to have the ability to directly understand raw metar reports provided by direct FAA sources without intermediate interpretation anyways, so I question the general utility of such a site.
And you again bring up the subject of self-promotion. Although the page in question is not quite a biography, Wikipedia has guidelines on WP:AUTO and WP:BIO that discuss some of the similar types of concerns that exist. --Bovineone 09:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Help with Virtual Iron entry?[edit]

Hi Bovineone,

I hope you can help, as you have a bit more wikipedia experience than I do and you have already contributed to the article in question. An anonymous user at IP has repeatedly made the same change of incorrect information (does not match up to source). I am assuming (and perhaps shouldn't do so) that their complaint was to the reference of Virtual Iron being a top contributor to the Xen project. I've reverted the latest incorrect information from this user and omitted the reference to top contributor instead saying "to which Virtual Iron is a contributor to" (as "top" is a subjective word and probably should not be included). Is this the correct response? I'm certainly not trying to get into an edit war. Thanks for any guidance. Vanpedia 22:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Vanpedia, can you provide any other sources that indicate the precise version of Xen that is used by Virtual Iron? Or how about a more recent statistics that can confirm the contributor information, than the outdated presentation that is currently cited? Also, can you clarify your relationship to Virtual Iron? Are you an employee or customer? -- Bovineone 02:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I don't have any other information than what I posted as a source and am not really sure if there's any updated information. I'm interested in the software and have downloaded VMware, Virtual Iron and XenSource (also, new to Wikipedia, at least as a non-anonymous contributor). I've become somewhat fascinated with the "wiki culture" over the last couple of weeks.

ATHF/Adult Swim Apology[edit]

That was pretty cool with the quote marks. I had no idea you could do that. Thanks! - SVRTVDude 11:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There are actually a few other quotation templates available, see Category:Quotation_templates for some more. -- Bovineone 14:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


Sorry, but I struck your recent edit to Fallingwater. Reinforcing steel is a trivial contribution to overall weight of a concrete member. Plain concrete wieghs 145 pounds per cubic foot; reinforced concrete is 150± pounds per cubic foot. MARussellPESE 13:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a structural engineer, so I cannot validate your apparent claim that adding steel to concrete will never result in deadweight. You might want to remove the same text that is found in Frank_Lloyd_Wright#Notable_projects_after_the_Prairie_Period, since that is my source for it and I thought that was a significant claim if true. -- Bovineone 14:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I took it out too.
Figuring it out is fairly easy for me. Consider this example, and not that removed from the Fallingwater cantilevers:
A 20' long cantilevered balcony (an assembly area at 100 psf), 12" thick (150 psf), would need 1.70± in²/ft of reinforcing steel. (¾" bars at 3" centers.)
If one doubled that (3.4 in²/ft, ¾" bars at 1½" centers), the additional weight would be 4.0 psf vs. the 250 psf total of dead and live service loads. (< 2% increase)
You also would now have serious problems getting concrete placed around a mat of steel that tightly spaced. Since the record doesn't indicate that the contractor had placing problems, even after doubling the steel, I would concur from a cursory consideration that the cantilevers were likely woefully under-strength.
MARussellPESE 14:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


Please restate your opinion on the Vista move on the Vista talk page. Thank you. W3stfa11/Talk to me 03:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Austin[edit]

I would like some support for the idea. Find out more here. Sahmeditor 16:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. I'll watch Wikipedia:WikiProject Austin for news, but I don't think I'll volunteer for any major responsibilities quite yet. -- Bovineone 08:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

List of breeds of cattle[edit]

Hello Bovineone! I would like to invite you to help me out with the List of breeds of cattle. I have reformatted the page, and now the main task that needs too be done is creating stubs (or articles!) for the missing breeds. Please help if you can! - Abbott75 07:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Home Depot[edit]

On the Home Depot article, I removed several paragraphs of newly inserted material that was related to its environmental record, and posted my reasons for doing so on the talk page. You simply reverted my edit with no explaination given. I would greatly appreciate some comments on the talk page, explaining why you feel that content belongs within the article. -- 21:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

You're mistaken. I did not revert anything, someone else did. Check the edit logs more carefully. -- Bovineone 21:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the confusion. I had been scrolling through the edits, and clicked the wrong name. -- 21:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

About Rechenberg and Gaussian adaptation[edit]

I have observed that Rechenberg used Gaussian adaptation (GA,in this mail) prior to me, Gregor Kjellström, alias kjells. Unfortunately, I can't see any scientific reason for that in the litterature. GA is about maximization of manufacturing yield and minimization of tolerance costs (centering and tolerancing).

As a model of natural evolution GA may also carry out a simultaneous maximization of mean fitness and average information using the theorem of Gaussian adaptation, not discovered by Rechenberg. Also, I can't see any references to Rechenberg about centering and tolerancing in any important paper in these contexts.

In the article about GA I have included a reference to Rechenberg about the probability of success which usually is = .18 in his case and 0.37 = 1/e in the GA-case. This is only an example showing that the theorem of efficiency may be applicable to a large class of genetic algorithms including the algorithm due to Rechenberg and many other algorithms such as Gaussian adaptation and Simulated annealing for instance.--Kjells 14:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Rocks Cluster Distribution[edit]

A tag has been placed on Rocks Cluster Distribution, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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I've responded on the Talk:Rocks Cluster Distribution page, and updated the article with more references and improvements. -- Bovineone 06:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your edit to the Borg Cube image.[edit]

Re: Image:Borg cube from bridge.jpg

However, can you identify the series (or movie) the image is from? Since we can see a planet in the background, that eliminates (I believe) all the TNG Borg episodes, and points to First Contact. However... my knowledge of Star Trek is not so wide. BlueCanary9999 03:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

I was tending to believe it was from an episode TNG rather than a movie, since you had uploaded the image with the television template declared on it. I cannot immediately recognize the particular instance, but it looks like Earth is in the background. Do you recall where/how you obtained that image originally? -- Bovineone 21:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I found it on Google. Yeah...
Anyhow, is that the TNG viewscreen? I don't remember the black panels on the bottom, and it doesn't seem as wide as the one in TNG (then again, that could be simply the distortion of the image). Furthermore, it could be from VOY. BlueCanary9999 03:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999
Taadaa! How convenient! I was watching TNG the other day, and I found that exact image. It's from Best of Both Worlds Part II. I've updated the image file. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueCanary9999 (talkcontribs) 16:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Good work. As I suspected, it was a TNG episode. Thanks -- Bovineone 17:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Concerning Platform Computing wikipage[edit]


I cannot understand why my addons to that page was taken as the vandalism?? GridwiseTech is the partner of Platform and main member of Platform Alliance. Together we work on some projects so we are not vandals :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any contributions from you on Platform Computing, so I assume you must be the same as User:Paladin1979. In any case, you appear to have been warned many times on your User talk:Paladin1979 page by other users about spamming (spamming is a form of vandalism). Please see WP:SPAM regarding advertisement links. Links to external sites being blanketed across multiple pages in particular is very unappreciated, particularly if you choose to repeatedly reintroduce links that other editors are actively removing. -- Bovineone 15:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi, You recently added {{{ShouldBeSVG}}} to a couple of corporate logos. If you are going to do this, could you please use {{ShouldBeSVG|fairuse}} instead, please? This puts it into a specific subcategory to avoid cluttering up the (already backlogged) main category unnecessarily. For a full list of tags, please see the template's page. Many thanks, Stannered 18:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok cool. I didn't know about the optional parameter. I'll use it from now on! -- Bovineone 00:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing the template at Harvey Seeley Mudd. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 22:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. It started with just a typo that had gotten spelling-corrected to the wrong template. -- Bovineone (talk)

Invitation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Agriculture[edit]

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Airport template[edit]

Hi Bovine. Would you mind returning to the Airport template talk page? I had some questions for you there. Thanks very much. Gladtohelp (talk) 19:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)gladtohelp

Rara Avis[edit]

Hi, you recently added a redirect for "rara avis" to the music group Rarae Avis. Most people typing rara avis would be looking for the meaning of the term, which can be found in the entry "List of Latin Phrases (P-R)". It would make sense to have a disambiguation page offering both a link to the music group and to the latin phrase but I don't know Wikipedia well enough to create that page. I'm hoping that you can do this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NonEditor (talkcontribs) 00:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, good suggestion. I've changed it to a disambig page instead. If you know of any other entries to add to that disambig page, feel free to add them. -- Bovineone (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad[edit]

The article is too long. Is not it possible to make a separate article Criticism of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and to concise the information in the main article? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

It would be better to make this proposal on the Talk:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad page and solicit help or support there. I only made some very trivial cleanup to the article. -- Bovineone (talk) 18:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Jason Bentley[edit]

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Can some one clarify in English what the issue is with the Yoix page... I do not understand where the potential copyright infringement issue arises? I will gladly rectify the matter as soon as it is clear to me what the matter is exactly. You seem to know, so please explain. --Jmocenigo (talk) 10:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Commercial Orbital Transportation Services article work[edit]

Can you clarify what you meant by "First round competitor" and "Second round competitor"?

Do you mean finalist in the first round selection? Participant in the initial open competition?

The specific title you chose is unfortunately meaningless...

Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 07:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I was attempting to address the concern expressed by another editor here:[1] What do you propose as a better way to interpret the concerns of that editor? -- Bovineone (talk) 07:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest something like three columns, "First round participant", "First round semi-finalist", "Second round participant", and possibly a fourth "Won round" listing the two winners only. That both answers the question and disambiguates what you're talking about adequately. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I've changed the columns to what you've suggested. Feel free to fill in the missing columns if you know what they should be. -- Bovineone (talk) 08:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the cleanup-- i was doing a fast rough cut. I suspect the history section could do with yet more shortening--My idea was to remove everything discussed in the later parts about the actual service. And my presumption tends to be that sections written in the present tense in a history section are likely to be either a copy of press announcements or writing in the same style. The first thing I did was changed them to the past, so it doesn't read that way now--but probably every one of them should be rewritten to avoid the likely copyvio. (The second thing I did was change almost all the "SLACKER" to "the company" or "the service".

If you like to do this sort of spam removal , we can certainly use help. I learned what I know from Durova's excellent guide WP:BF

Thanks, DGG (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that much of its history section should be abbreviated and maybe rewritten into more of a general prose format, rather than just date-stamped list of items. It doesn't seem necessary to announce every single business agreement or software update that is made available. -- Bovineone (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ancient history[edit]

Hi. A long time ago you contributed to Talk:Cow (disambiguation); the topic of that discussion has come up again. --Una Smith (talk) 14:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Valujet-logo.jpg[edit]

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