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Prometheus

Edit it properly, the reference is poorly edited. Thanks. --80.31.49.83 (talk) 16:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

What have you done in the references section? Do you know how to reference? The reference is not placed in that section but in the text. Please edit properly. --80.31.49.83 (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Refs can go in reflist. Which of them? Your reference? I only see yours. --80.31.49.83 (talk) 17:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting my edit; I didn't intend to make it. --199.173.224.32 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.173.224.32 (talk) 18:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I made today's edit on the cast page. The official cast list (in the electronic press kit, of which I have a copy) is the source. I did not cite it because Wikipedia typically does not require citations for names of actors and roles, and since it's not publicly available at this point, citing it wouldn't make it look any more reliable. Revert it if you like. MutantChair (talk) 03:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

T2 table

Hi, I'm not sure, regarding this edit, why you said I had no reason to remove it. I did so because of a comment from Betty Logan at the article's GAN page calling for its removal,

"I think the table in the box office section is excessive. WP:WHENTABLE states Tables should not be used simply for layout, either. If the information you are editing is not tabular in nature, it probably does not belong in a table. Clearly the information is not "tabular in nature" because there is only one row in the whole thing. I recommend remvoing the table and leaving it as prose."

Now I did explain my removal by stating "Incorporate info from table into prose" as the edit summary -- I'm not sure that has anything to do with or is similar to my earlier edit summaries of "Add" and "Tweaks". By the way what do you mean by "That said I'm restoring the table because you had no reason to remove it"? Unless you can produce the reason, then I hope you don't mind me hiding the table due to the guideline at WP:WHENTABLE. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 05:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

It is a guideline only. The table allows for easier dissemination of information presented in prose. I've passed 2-3 articles with such a table in them, they do no harm. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:40, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

2263 IS The Fifth Element year!

2263 Alarm Clock — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamEtches (talk • contribs) 21:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

The Grey

Stop undoing changes. Thanks! Your last warning! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.99.247 (talk) 10:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

As more of an explanation, the small Private Defense Contractors text is part of the company's logo. Secondly, the executive producers must be credited on this page. They were a large part of this particular film and deserve the listed credits. Unless you can find a way to add them additionally in the info box, please keep the credits where they are at. We have tried to add a separate category altogether for the executive producers, but the infobox will not accept the changes. Thanks for understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthseeker8907 (talk • contribs) 10:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

Although you were initially sceptical about my effort, thank you so much for helping out during the GAN; Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a GA! --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 23:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thank You

Thank you for correcting my recent error with respect to the Die Hard article. After watching that movie again last night, I realized that I had those two characters misidentified, and was going to revert my previous edit when I noticed that you had already done it. --TommyBoy (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

RE: Thanks

You're welcome. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

clearly by by universe scott was reffering to the "fictional alien universe"

thanks for proving my point. Nex Carnifex (talk) 04:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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Epic films

Thanks for your contributions to the conversation on WP:FILM. I've tried cleaning up the article but other users have been reverting me after I cleaned up URLs and removed non-cited information. I've tried discussing it on the talk page but no one replies, they just revert and accuse me of vandalism. Can I get a bit of support from someone who thought it was a good idea as well? Thanks! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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TDKR

Double check your source - it paraphrases something Nolan apparently told Heat Vision, the self proclaimed fanboy wing of THR. I could also post half a dozen debuked cases of speculation regarding Nolan apparently changing the audio mix without a quote or any verification. If you can post a single direct quote from Nolan, or anyone involved in the production of the movie I'll gladly admit error. --Williamsburgland (talk) 21:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why Boycool is the be all and end all of decisions made here, but he just fixed an issue (that I was unaware of until now) with the reference; he didn't restore your edit. I'm not sure why you're so fixated on this, but again - my issue was that the entry in question inferred that Nolan plans to change the mix in relation to Bane's voice, when every indication he's given is that he doesn't plan to. Again, if you provide anything indicating that he does plan to change it in any way at all, I'll happily admit error. --Williamsburgland (talk) 22:07, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Marketing

I saw your edit summary at The Dark Knight Rises and to answer your question per WP:FILMMARKETING, Merchandising does fall the under its scope. However the guideline does state you have to demonstrate its relevance just as when you are dealing other customary marketing techniques so in my opinion simply listing toys and other common merchandise wouldn't pass.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:27, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your input 3Threat. Reading that it seems like it's passable if the source is independent of the studio and someone who profits from the toy, like a shop. I was using it largely as evidence of the scope of external merchandising going on. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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Burt Wonderstone

I think Alan Arkin is in the cast. [1] RAP (talk) 19:55 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I struggle to find references that say this and aren't referencing IMDb. I will try to find some later and add it if i can. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey thanks...

For letting me know about the Portal 2 BAFTAs via that edit summary at B:AC :-) (j/k of course, but at least it wasn't Skyrim that ran away with everyhing...) --MASEM (t) 01:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Skyrim didn't win anything strangely enough, but at least Hamill got some recognition for his voice work. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

RE:Administrative Administrator intervention

Try ANI. Nice heading, by the way. --Boycool (talk) 02:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

"Administrator intervention". Aren't those called headings? Nevermind. --Boycool (talk) 02:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Just has a nice ring to it. Idk. --Boycool (talk) 02:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Some people just don't know when to stop. --Boycool (talk) 03:25, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Avengers

just letting you I answered responded to you through edit summary, feel free to revert if you strongly disagree.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 02:50, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Not that I disagree, with Box Office sections I've been told that the term Domestic is inappropriate even when the country of origin is clear (I experienced it on Fast Five) particularly, so it was better to specify the country of origin. I don't know if that is the case entirely. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:54, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Would North American be better?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds OK.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I think most of that information will be fleshed more in the "Box office" section once those figures are available. I.E. revenue generated from midnight screenings and opening weekends in different markets. Thor (film)#Box office does a nice job detailing the openings chronologically.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't seem that notable to me but I guess that depends on the amount of press its garnering.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Yea, it does suck, I think it is coming down to placement of Marvel's logo, which people interpret as being a part of the title. However I am not saying the title isn't Marvel Avengers Assemble, it just might warrant further discussion, especially if the RSs are now skewing to one side. Also how do you feel about the inclusion of this Fandango survey in the release section?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm not really sure how you would go about it either, I usually use Flickr because all the images are tagged for easy verification. I believe there is a way you can submit written permission from the author. We have one free image of the premiere already so I guess its up to you if you want to bother the author for another.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

What do you think is the better location for the tracking info; Release or Box-Office?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I would say so, MovieTickets.com is as relevant as Fandango.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I havent read the plot section yet, but it shouldn't unless it is specifically called that in the film.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

You might want to request an indefinite lock because of the lock history, I already asked j Greb but he hasn't responded.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

You're just being a Wikipedia Nazi. Look, the ending scene CLEARLY showed Thanos conferring with The Other. There is NO other comic book character in the Marvel Universe who looks like that, sir. Plus, two of Thanos's singular identifying characteristics are his love of Death (alluded to in the conversation when The Other spoke of "courting death", and Thanos merely smiled, and his obsession with the Cosmic Cube. Your logic is clearly flawed on this issue. Nick Fury is only referred to as "Director Fury" in the film; are we therefore supposed to omit all references to him as NICK Fury, since his first name wasn't "verified" onscreen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.66.219 (talk) 16:08, 5 May 2012 (UTC) I don't care WHAT you say, or think. You're just a nerd behind a keyboard smugly reveling in the ONE tiny grain of supposed "power" he THINKS he has. "Ooh! Look at me! I can block editorial changes, on a free website, about a FICTIONAL motion picture! Tremble before me Earthlings!" Whatever "Darkwarriorblake", Master of Irrelevant Topical Analysis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.66.219 (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edit at Talk:The Dark Knight Rises

WP:AGF is not a requirement to be dumb, but your recent speculation about an editor at an article talk page seems unnecessary. Please stick to the article content at the article talk page, or consider taking your concerns about the editor to their user talk page, WP:SPI, or the appropriate noticeboard. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 18:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

changes i made to saw franchise actors list

Why can't I do that? can u plz explain? doesnt it look better and doesnt it make more sense in the way i changed it? I wouldnt mind if u had explained so that i wouldnt make the same "mistake" again. --Caos2008lv (talk) 23:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

RfC

The is a neutral request for comments at Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe#FeatureFilmCasting. Your input would be appreciated. Thank you.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Shawshank Redemption

Thanks for all your good work on the plot summary. I did some additional trimming--hopefully for the better. This article seems to attract more than its share of strange edits. Thanks for helping stem the tide. Cheers, Blake Burba (talk) 01:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

The Thing (2011 film)

Thanks for the lovely warm welcome to the The Thing (2011 film) article, Darkwarriorblake. So, in your own words, the edit direction is a timesaver that you have added to make editing here more convenient for you personally. So, I have "no idea what I am talking about" - can you please show us any rules that prevent addition of a link to the other film there? I never claimed there was any overlap. Where is the consensus for your view? Does anyone else agree with you? If someone disagrees with, you why do you see it as helpful to start swearing? I am perfectly familiar with the content of WP:OWN - are you? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't recall swearing, asterixing maybe. It's nothing to do with you disagreeing with me, I'm sick of having the discussion with anyone. Do whatever you want, I'm seriously sick of hearing about it. As for OR, what does that have to do with this? OR is saying it leads into another film when you cannot say that. They could land and have a burger for all you know, I described exactly what I can see and nothing more. Where is the OR there? Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, I meant WP:OWN, as it seems you felt that you could personallty direct how this article was written. I don't see that stating that "one films leads into another film" counts as WP:OR. If so, an awful lot of film, and book articles would also need to be corrected. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I'd be fine with them being updated. I can understand a link, maybe, where something is incredibly complex and simply cannot be understood without further information, which is why we generally wikilink things. But The Thing and The Thing 2011 are not reliant on each other for understanding, there's nearly 30 years between them and the 1982 version has not been incomplete all that time, and in the same way the 2011 film takes place before the 1982 one and so is not reliant on that film for explanation at all. I believe that since it is made clear it is a prequel, that if you want to know what happens next you would look up the sequel using available links or searches, the same way you would for Terminator 2 from The Terminator, or Harry Potter whatever from the previous film. As such with the Thing, it comes across as unnecessary and also looks at leading a reader away from the article instead of allowing them to continue on reading to see other information that has been added by users, relevant to this particular, individual film.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't think links are reserved for matters that are "incredibly complex and simply cannot be understood without further information", but rather can used for anything that is connected or germain and that is not a "commonly used term". The plots of prequels vary - some have a gap, some have an overlap, some show direct scene-to-scene continuity. In a series of flims, especiallly where the order in which they were created does not match the chronology of the overall plot, I think an explanaton is usful for the reader. Even moreso when the titles of the films are not in a numbered sequence, e.g. when a film shares its name exactly with a different film. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.0.115 (talk) 20:33, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Tracy Jordan and other 30 Rock character pages

I took your advice on starting a discussion about merging the character articles. I started the discussion on the talk page for the list of 30 Rock characters if you'd like to give your input. Comatmebro (talk) 07:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Kirby Reed

You have to stop being so close minded about a character from a horror flim. Wes Craven specifically has stated that Kirby was still moving in the final shot we saw of her so we don't know if she's dead or not. Her fate remains ambiguous meaning that it's unknown if she is dead or not. Dewey never corrected Jill when she said that Kirby was dead because it was against the law since Jill was not related to her. Just cause she's a character from a horror film doesn't mean that she would have death scene. Hayden and Wes craven said on DVD commentary that she was not contracted to die on screen. So until we get an announcement from Wes Craven or the weinsteins. Then Kirby's fate as of now remains unknown.MrRattlesnake101 (talk) 05:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

No, until there is a Scream 5, her fate remains known. She bled out on the patio. Cop rules have never applied to Dewey, it's a film not a documentary. She was out there for ages alone and never mentioned at all. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 10:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

You still have to stop being so close minded. Kirby is not dead because we don't know if she is yet in the last shot we saw of her we never actually saw her die she was still moving and holding her wound while bleeding out. It doesn't mean that she died off screen and cop rules do apply to Dewey because it was illegal for him to tell Jill if Kirby was dead or not since she is not related to her. Police officers are only allowed to tell relatives or family members the conditions of another family members fate. On the scream wiki Kirby fate is unknown because she could be most likely alive, Sidney heard the sound of the basement door opening. She checked the stairs and called for Kirby just before Charlie had grabbed her. It wasn't Jill who made the noise because she was already upstairs at the front door waiting to reveal herself to Sidney. Kirby's name was taken off the death list on the scream wiki because we heard from Wes Craven that she was not really dead. Read his twitter he was asked by a fan if Kirby was really dead and he said that he doesn't think so she was still moving in the final shot we saw of her. I don't why you are so close minded its obvious you don't like Kirby and think that she's a bad character. Read the users comments on the Scream wiki page for Scream 5 http://scream.wikia.com/wiki/Scream_5#comm-15786 Stop being so close minded you just assumed that Kirby is dead her fate remains unknown so its unknown she's not dead because we don't know yet if she is. Also Wes Craven said in a interview that Hayden had it in her contract that her character could not be killed on Screen. So please stop telling users or me what to do. Read Kirby's page on the Scream wiki http://scream.wikia.com/wiki/Kirby_Reed. So you need to stop saying that she's dead because until we get an announcment from Wes Craven Kirby's fate remains unknown.MrRattlesnake101 (talk) 22:24, 6 April 2012 (UTC) oh and another thing she wasn't stabbed deeply enough to die because Charlie Walker didn't have any intention of killing her. You don't have to wait for Scream 5. Just wait for Wes Craven or the weinsteins to make an announcement about Scream 5 or if a character is returning. Leave Kirby's fate as unknown. We still don't known if she's dead or not so please stop saying that she isMrRattlesnake101 (talk) 22:24, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Jesus christ, she wasn't stabbed deeply because he didn't want to kill her? This isn't a fan article, made up stuff like that isn't acceptable on Wikipedia. Scream Wikia is a fan site and not held to teh same, if any, standards. Everything you are saying is made up and that is why it isn't in the article and why it says she is dead. I'm not interested in discussing made up fan stuff here or anywhere, until you have a source, and I don't mean IMDb or Scream Wikia, that says somehow her being dead on the floor means she wasn't really dead, it won't be changed. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

YOU ARE A GOON AND A BULLY

WHAT WRONG HAVE I ADDED IN BATMAN BEGINS PAGE ISN'T IT AN AMERICAN FILM DISTRIBUTED BY A FULL AMERICAN STUDIO WARNER BROTHERS,ARE WARNER BROTHERS english or scottish WHAT THEY ARE ?THEY ARE AMERICAN SO THE FILM THEY DISTRIBUTE WILL ALSO BE AMERICAN AND BECAUSE OF GOONS LIKE YOU I DON'T CONTRIBUTE MY MONEY IN WIKIPEDIA DONATION — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saccyind (talk • contribs) 11:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

You refuse to discuss things. Other people have undone your edits and you just redo them. You're not interested in listening unless you can have it your way and until you begin to act with civility and in cooperation with your fellow editors, you will probably continue to be frustrated. To make it clear, people have tried to engage you repeatedly, TideRolls has been suggesting and then warning you and you have ignored him, you have been given chance after chance after chance. At some point you need to realize that maybe it isn't everyone else that is the problem. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:36, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

YOU ARE A GOON

File:Petersellers.jpg	Here's a Goon. You are also one.
	May your cries of "rhubarb, rhubarb" never be dampened by lurgy. I hope to God this makes sense. GRAPPLE X 21:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I assume it is to do with The Goon Show. And I don't mind being that kind of goon, thanks GX. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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Marvel

I'll take a look. Collider's pretty reliable.

Dude! I just interviewed Joss Whedon for an "Avengers" article I'm writing! Can't say I got any earthshaking, but he did say at least two things I haven't seen him say in interviews so far. Also spoke with Cobie Smulders today -- got some good background material. Unfortunately, they haven't screened the film for East Coast press yet, as far as I can tell.... --Tenebrae (talk) 01:06, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, there, now you see how old I am — I haven't used a videogame console since, I think, Colecovision! No, that's not true ... I remember playing something called Castlevania on something in the 1990s . . . And you're right about DC. The recent Batman films are great, but Superman Returns? As I told friends who'd ask, "You'll believe a man can fly . . . like a lead balloon." Alternately, "You'll believe a man can bore!" --Tenebrae (talk) 01:17, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

And, yep, you were right, there's good stuff in the Feige interview. I've touched up Marvel Cinematic Universe and am now headed to throw a quote of his into the Thor film article.

Cobie, like Joss, was unfortunately via phone. Ah, well! --Tenebrae (talk) 01:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

My pleasure. And I'm I afraid I may have some bad news. User:Pepso2 and I recently began a project to archive Don Markstein's Toonopedia now that Don has passed and we were afraid his invaluable site would go down. I did all of "A" and the first part of "C", and Pepso was working on "B." I was about to contact a couple other Comics Project Members to help ... and then just now I tried going to Toonopedia and got "You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request." I hope this is only temporary. If it does come back — it was done for a few days once before — we should probably make a Project-wide effort to archive it as quickly as we can. Don put his life into that thing, and it'd be terrible to see his life's work evaporate.--Tenebrae (talk) 02:09, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It's back up today, for how long long who knows. I'm triaging some of the most obscure stuff that's hard to get information about elsewhere. If it's still here tomorrow, I'll go back to the Cs. If you want to maybe archive the Ds? You know how to use WebCitation.org, right? --Tenebrae (talk) 13:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Fan-fucking-tastic! I've been storing the WebCite URLs in the emails WebCitation sends when we create a backup. It took me until a few days ago to realize it was faster to do that and then add them to articles later rather than add them each as I went along (an invariably getting bogged down in fixing other things I'd see).

I'll give you a list of the obscure things I've triaged, I'll check with Pepso2 how the "B"s are coming along, and I'll see if maybe TriiipleThreat would be interested in taking "E".

As far as comics history goes, we're doing the Lord's work here, to coin a phrase. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:59, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Coordinating page done, at User:Tenebrae/Toonopedia_backup --Tenebrae (talk) 06:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

A Good Day to Die Hard

We know that Jai Courtney will be be John McClane Jr. and he was confirmed, but the strange thing is that on IMDb, which I know it isn't the most realible source, says that there is a different actor listed on that role and it said it was rumored. BattleshipMan (talk) 02:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

There maybe a problem. Some people are buying into the fan-made trailer of A Good Day to Die Hard and they say the release date is in December 2012. Also, the actor listed on IMDB as rumored to play John McClane Jr. is pretty much spreading, even there is no realible news source to confirm that. BattleshipMan (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Cabin in the woods Monster whiteboard

Each of the creatures in the whiteboard appear in the movie during the second half (after the elevator down). I believe that list is useful (who bet on each, is not - but it puts it in context):

• It connects the basement room where they characters play with the "triggers" until one is selected (key to the plot)
• A selection appears in the boxes while taking the elevator down
• All of the cast of characters in making havoc in the The Company are listed on the board (allows for the monsters to be uniquely named)

I would normally not just revert another's change but it was removed with just a snide comment ("put it on a fan site") and no discussion on the talk page. The Wiki is supposed to work as hive mind where multiple people have input on making an article better and not a single opinion. Spandox (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC).

Green Lantern GA

I have nominated Green Lantern for GA status. If only that could make the movie good. RAP (talk) 15:28 18 April 2012 (UTC)

A lobotomy couldn't make that a good film, it's a shame we can't sue to get money back when we have been robbed of two hours of our lives. But yeah its detailed and sourced, it probably should have been nominated a while ago. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I also have Tron: Legacy being reviewed. Would you be able to lend some of your skills and assistance? RAP (talk) 2:14 22 April 2012 (UTC)

What kind of assistance do you need? I can't do much right now as I'm in the middle of a course but I can do small stuff. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Mainly establishing an opening header. I begun one and left part of it it, but the way i had it seemed juvenilely written. RAP (talk) 22:23 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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Re:Spider-Man

Thanks Darkwarriorblake, believe me I have been getting prepared for that trailer. But like I said on my last edit summary I did a time consuming edit. I will put those on the article but I will kick back and check out the trailer for a breath of fresh air first. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I feel that I have had it for the internet tonight...so I won't get to update anymore until next morning. Don't be afraid to fill in if you want. That Marc Webb interview has so much goodies to add that I won't know where to begin tommorow. ;) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 00:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The trailer did look...and I was disappointed that it wasn't on the theater that I watched the Avengers in 3D. That trailer looked like it would look awesome in big screen 3D. On other note can you think of anything that can be a good fair use image of the viral marketing section. Like maybe the wanted the wanted poster or something. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 01:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Shazam! I got you your grafitti image that you suggested. I hope you like it? Also if I were to do a fair use image of a wanted poster what would be a good commentary caption of the article to qualify for it's fair use. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it was used near Wondercon. Can that count? Also finding it was only half of what I had to do. I had to request permission for a license change. The same with the filming images. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

How about how I posted it on the article> You can say it in your own words if you want as well. I am kind of wondering what Bignole will think about it though. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 00:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

That's what I thought. He wouldn't approve of that idea. I guess I can see his point. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 00:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I should of trusted my first instinct on the fact that one image is enough. That's what I was thinking in my head. I just got belted. It happens I guess but you should of warned me though. How dare you. JK. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 01:00, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

But seriously I do appreciate your compliments and I think you are doing a good job on Prometheus (film). Keep up the good work. :) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 01:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Understandable

Hello D. Re this edit [2]. I understand completely. Hopefully one day - 20 or 30 years from now - the hate will fade. On the other hand I can say welcome to the land of the warped :-P cheers and have a good weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 21:34, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't disagree with any of your points. IMO Pasolini was a poet and writer first and became a filmmaker because he found something fascinating in it that he couldn't explain. Of course, this is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH and it doesn't excuse the fright that Salo is. I wouldn't let it put you off his other films especially the three based on books of the Middle Ages - The Decameron, Canterbury Tales and Arabian Nights. They aren't must see but they are interesting. You might let User talk:Lugnuts#Wavelength know your experience too. Cheers MarnetteD | Talk 21:56, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Just had a flash after seeing your post on Lugnuts talk page. Oscar Wilde once commented that "the good ended well and the bad ended badly - that is how you know it was fiction". That isn't gonna make you feel any better about the time you spent watching Salo but I couldn't resist adding this to the mix. have a great week on wiki and off. MarnetteD | Talk 03:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Avengers

Keep up the good work on The Avengers (2012 film). I can see how much effort you and some of our other colleagues are putting in to keep out the fancruft, the vandalism and the plot bloat out. It's going to be rough there for a couple of weeks! --Tenebrae (talk) 23:58, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I did ask for protection but there apparently wasn't enough vandalism, lol. I've had articles locked for about 5 minutes worth of what's been going on at The Avengers for days. My course will be over soon so might hve more time to deal with it but my focus at the minute is Prometheus (film). But I'm also having to rest my hand, got some kind of pain going on, makes it difficult to do things as fast as I normally do on the computer. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

This is a neutral notice that an edit-war appears to be occurring at The Dictator (2012 film) and other editors are invited to observe and weigh in to keep it from escalating. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Appears to be. Thanks for taking a look. A fellow WPC editor, Bignole, stopped in, and sometimes that's all it takes — just a third voice to throw some cold water on a heated situation. But man, is that a belligerent new editor. What kind of person starts a reply with a subhead like "What's your problem"? Yeesh! --Tenebrae (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find a way to incorporate it. Also I was wondering if you could help cleaning up the citations, I left a comment about it on the talk page.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't know you could do this; I'll put that to use somewhere else soon. PRRfan (talk) 23:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Darkwarriorblake. I really appreciate all your work on The Avengers. However, I haven't found a single film in the Wikipedia that has the film's gross in millions. I don't understand why your insisting. Besides, it's the gross that Box Office Mojo discloses... I'd like to know the explanation for that. Thank you in advance. Spinc5 (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Just between you and me, that's the director of the well-regarded film Moonlighting, starring Jeremy Irons, which is unrelated to the same-name TV show. It's actually an interesting point when a director (especially a famous European director) cameos in an acting role, like Francois Truffaut did in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But I'll let you and other editors handle that; I need some time away from The Avengers! ; )  --Tenebrae (talk) 21:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah. Growing Pains girl. Went right by me. Yeah, I used to like Moonlighting a lot. It broke a lot of ground with things we take for granted today, like a black-and-white TV episode or a musical TV episode. I remember how its black-and-white episode was so revolutionary in its own way, the show had Orson freaking Welles do an introduction saying basically, "There is nothing wrong with your TV set"!

I tell you, it's so good to work with people like you and Triiiple ad Bignole and Nightscream (and others, back in the day, now much busier as admins). There's a lot to be said for experience, knowledge and calmness. And it's amazing to me that such basic things, valued anywhere else, are so rare here! : )   --Tenebrae (talk) 22:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

This is just a notice that an incident has brewed at Talk:The Avengers (2012 film) with an editor accusing me of bad faith and OWN.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 11:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

This is a neutral notice to frequent editors of The Avengers (2012 film) that the page may be in danger of an edit-war, with one editor unilaterally changing the first line in a way contrary to consensus determined by admin J Greb here. For the sake of the article's stability, editors may wish to pay attention to this page.--Tenebrae (talk) 13:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the unnecessary cast listings in the plot for Captain America: The First Avenger. After having to deal with the plot bloater, plus the craziness at Talk:X-Men: First Class, I just didn't have it in me to do that needed editing and risk getting into another mishegas. It's always so good to see you, Triiip and some of our other colleagues at work. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 14:13, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Archiving etc.

Yeah, true that. I keep meaning to — probably should install one of those auto-archiving bots. On the other hand, coffee is goooooood!

I was just at the Prometheus movie talk page, trying to digest everything. Heading back there. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

The Hollywood Reporter is a reliable source, and as accurate as any other top-tier industry trade magazine; I've written for it myself, and I know firsthand how careful the editors are. That said, no source is 100 percent perfect; that's why there are Corrections columns.

Without looking at the specific articles, I can say in general that articles about the early stages of a film's production are often qualified, with phrases such as "is scheduled to begin shooting in such-and-such a place at such-and-such a time." The Avengers had planned to shoot on Long Island at one point, though the plan never got so far as actual scheduling.

Then, too, there's principal photography and second-unit photography. Sometimes the second-unit crew shoots first, doing prosaic things like shooting establishing shots or cars and pedestrians walking down the street (and street scenes probably aren't the case with the futuristic Prometheus, but you get the idea.)

And generally speaking, later articles have the benefit of reporting things that have actually physically happened, rather than things that were planned or announced, so given the choice I would go with the later version while noting what the earlier version said. The important thing is to read the earlier version very carefully to check for any qualifiers and to see exactly what was being said. Hope this helps. Now back to work! --Tenebrae (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

In these kinds of cases, I try to just lay everything out, including contradictions and being very specific with the sources, and let the reader decide what he or she finds credible. But you're right — it sounds like one godawful mess. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:00, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

barnstar

		The WikiProject Film Award
		I, Jhenderson777 (talk), hereby award Darkwarriorblake the WikiProject Film Award for his/her valued contributions to Prometheus and other film related articles. Awarded 14:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I was about to give you this same award for the same thing, so I'll just say "seconded". You continue to do great work on this one; don't let the naysayers get you down. --IllaZilla (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: A cookie for you!

	The Shawarma Award
	Thank you for the cookie, enjoy some shawarma! --TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	I have seen you reverting vandalism consistently for a quite long time now, and I believe that you are truly deserving of this. Namanbapna (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

You are a Veteran Editor III.

You are now a Veteran Editor III. I have presented you your award on your userpage. Congrats!!! Surge_Elec (talk) 21:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Surge. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Prometheous premiere

The Leicester Square IS the name of the cinema ... and it is located on Leicester Square oddly enough ... and all London premieres take place there. Hope that helps. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 11:44, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure? There are apparently a number of cinemas there including an Odeon, Vue, another Odeon and one called Empire. The Snow White and the Huntsman premiere for instance took place at the Odeon one. It's not super urgent, when the premiere actually takes place I'm sure that information will be available. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I think you will find that they are all together under one roof ... and yes the full title is The Odeon Leicester Square ... but you say Leicester Square to any Londoner and they will assume you are off to see a movie. 99% of all British premieres have been there since the 1930s (except for the last 18 months when the square was closed off for refurb).21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 12:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

IMDB top 250 chart.

I decided to post this here so the movie's history page doesn't get spammed, hope you don't mind. Anyways you're obviously more knowledgable about Wiki than me so help me understand this. On the Shawshank Redemption page you said the top 250 chart can't be included because "It's a user edited score, it's not acceptable for inclusion any more than any of our personal reviews would be.", but that doesn't make any sense to me, let me explain. On IMDB, the top 250 chart is a chart IMDB provides that aggregates all of the votes on the site into one chart. Now look at stuff like RottenTomatoes. RottenTomatoes aggregates reviews/ratings into one "chart" as well, same with MetaCritic. I don't see how the ratings on IMDB's chart are any more "user edited" than the reviews/ratings that RT and MC aggregate, so why are those sites allowed on articles? TheSameGuy (talk) 02:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Rotten Tomatoes et al assign several scores to films—one based on user votes, one based on published reviews in reliable sources, and in some cases a further refinement of the sources used is also given (RT's "top critics" for instance). We only go by the scores given based on published reviews when using those sites. IMDB only gauges their list on user scores, with no other method used to rank their listings. It's entirely possible for a poorly-received film with a large internet fanbase to be bumped up IMDB's listings (I'm thinking things like the Twilight films would score much higher on IMDB than on RT and Metacritic), while that won't happen with the review aggregation sites. You can vote a film 10/10 all night on IMDB but you can't readily write a different published review for each of a thousand newspapers, which gives RT and MC a higher level of scrutiny. I've rambled on here. I'm gonna go finish watching Hologram Man. GRAPPLE X 02:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok I guess I understand now, basically IMDB only counts their users votes and the votes aren't reliable sources, while RT and Metacritic aggregate their reviews from more reliable sources (including critics reviews from places like newspapers for example), is that correct? Anyways, thanks for your help! TheSameGuy (talk) 03:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

That's exactly it. GRAPPLE X 03:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for providing the info Grapple. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The Divide

The movie explains why Wendi is abducted. They shine a light on her neck to see if her thyroid is swollen from isotopic fallout, they squirt her neck/thyroid area with iodine solution and inject her neck with iodine. They are organ-harvesting the young and healthy. If you have access to the movie, go back and reveiw it, but never-the-less they examine her neck. Their speech is not unintelligble and their allegence is to the Global Order. One asks if he should take her, another shouts the name, "Tze Tao!", before looking at the name tag. Ncsr11 (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Where is it said they're harvesting organs because the rest of that is you assuming stuff based on them inspecting her neck. The name thing isn't relevant either. Give me a time code I will go look at it but I'm fairly sure nothing about what they were doing was made clear because they're not important to the film. It's about the people in the bunker.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

When he grabs him and spins him around, freeze on the frame of the nametag, it reads TZE TAO and in the lower right-hand corner reads, Department of Containment & Preservation, in the upper right-hand corner is a picture of the earth from orbit as opposed to the U.S. Seal, etc. If you listen he shouts, "Tze Tao!" ("Se-Dow!"). You write it, then.

What does his name have to do with anything? That it's foreign? With an English department name? No information is given about who the group really is, or what they are doing, certainly nothing is said about organ harvesting and why on Earth would the Department for Conservation and Preservation be killing people? None of the stuff either matters or actually happened in the film, it doesn't belong in the plot section. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The amount of plastic tubing for that one girl is odd. Maybe it was all over the buried remains of the entire city. It still looks like the urban legend of Chinese troops hiding in underground tunnels. Maybe someone can find information in articles about the movie's meaning. Ncsr11 (talk) 22:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)