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Edit war?

I reverted one edit. Check the history. It's bold, revert, discuss; not bold, revert, accuse of edit war and revert, discuss. I'm going to restore the article to its original state, then it's his turn to take his proposed changes to the talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Alright, my apologies. -- Ryankiefer (talk) 01:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


Can you speedy delete Turkish History Institute? Sorry about that. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I can't actually delete the page, as I'm not an admin, but I can put a template on there for you. Better yet, put the {{db-author}} template on the page letting an admin know you're requesting an article deletion and it'll generally get done faster. -- Ryankiefer (talk) 06:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! --Kansas Bear (talk) 07:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


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Speedy deletion declined: Limited Appeal Records

Hello Ryankiefer, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Limited Appeal Records, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims to have released albums by notable bands. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. SoWhy 18:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for letting me know, I'll tag the article for cleanup appropriately then. -- Ryankiefer (talk) 18:33, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. You might want my essay at WP:A7M which outlines a number of common claims in articles that allow an article to pass the standard of A7. Regards SoWhy 18:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I've tagged the article as of right now with PROD since it didn't quite fit into {db-a7}. It's clear this article does have many issues, including most importantly a COI issue. We'll see how this goes. -- Ryankiefer (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, come to think of it, the article may fit into G11. Any thoughts? -- Ryankiefer (talk) 18:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Bell Village SSS

Hello Ryankiefer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Bell Village SSS, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to schools. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Commons username change thingie

I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is ryankiefer. Ryankiefer (talk) 02:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC) I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is ryankiefer. elektrikSHOOS 02:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


Hi, why are you trying to delete my work? Can you imagine how hard and slow it is find infos about those judokas? I am probably only one who do this so please let me do my work. I don't think i am doing anything bad or i am writing fictive datas. There are thousands profiles of tennis players, soccer players and I am creating only profiles for those judokas who have won medals. Where is problem? David Nix

Please don't take it personally. On Wikipedia, all biographies of living people created after March 18, 2010 have to have at least one reliable source or they get deleted. They also have to be of a notable subject per Wikipedia's notability requirements. All articles I had nominated of yours for speedy deletion were unsourced and didn't show notability other than a medal at a local tournament. Please see WP:BIO for notability requirements for people. Also, when dealing with other editors, please remember to assume good faith. I'm not out to get you. -- elektrikSHOOS 17:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Gordon Cheesborough article

thanks for adding the commemnts the article requires cleaning up. I've tried to do so but to date no one else has added/deleted anything. Is there something fundamentally wrong you see which I can correct? Also, at what point (and who) assumes the responsibility to delete the request to help clean up the article? -- Digby scallops (talk) 19:22, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Those tags are generally meant as a guideline and can be removed by anyone. If you believe an article has fixed one of the issues tagged, feel free to remove the tag yourself.
In terms of how to go forward, I'd look at a few biographies that have reached featured article status (Michael Jordan, Charles Darwin, Archimedes) for ideas on what to do content and style-wise. Notice how the articles are concise, well-wikified and have a plentiful amount of in-line citations, especially for the ones which are about a person who's still alive.
I'll do some copyediting on the article for you later. Hope this helps. -- elektrikSHOOS 19:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have a better idea of what you are talking about after seeing your changes. Will keep my day job and try and do better in future, likely also going back and changing some previous edits and articles.

Digby scallops (talk) 03:13, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Thank you for tagging regarding 128 junior high school jakarta. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). mono 00:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jonathan armidale

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Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Jonathan armidale, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. VQuakr (talk) 07:25, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Per our discussion on my talk page, Twinkle hiccup. Sorry! VQuakr (talk) 07:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

thanks for the under construction tag

Wow, I didn’t realize there’d be someone so diligent to add an under construction tag to new in-progress articles (in this case ISCC-NBS system). Thanks! –jacobolus (t) 08:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

You noted in the edit summary that it was incomplete (and the article looked it), given your fair edit history I took a leap of faith and assumed you were still working on it. (No problem.) elektrikSHOOS 08:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Yup yup, it was a good guess. :) –jacobolus (t) 08:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for reporting this one, and I did use a {{softerblock}}, but only because they call themselves "ATW" at their blog. - Dank (push to talk) 11:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Love the trout, maybe I'll get to use it some day. Not today though, you're doing great at UAA. - Dank (push to talk) 21:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
So far I haven't been exposed to any trout smacking, but I know that day will eventually come. Just as long as I don't get whale smacked. elektrikSHOOS 21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thacholi Ambadi

Hi, I've just contested your BLPPROD on Thacholi Ambadi, because, if I'm not terribly mistaken, he should be a fictional character.
Granted, the article as it stands, will never survive an AFD, so if you want to PROD it, I'll be happy to second the proposal! Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 18:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Done. elektrikSHOOS 18:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I've seen. ^___^ Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 18:45, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Business chess

Hi, You marked the article Business chess for speedy deletion. I will be thankful, if you reply, what other data are required for this article will not be deleted. There are several printed articles about this variant of chess. I help to edit the text of the article, please reply, what may be done for the article correspond to the requirements. Thank you in advance, --Zara-arush (talk) 19:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I will be thankful for your comments, what we may do to improve the text. It is soooo hot, that is why it needs more time than usually. There were tournaments in Yerevan and Moscow, and the author has the published book in Russian. Please, write, what shall be added in the text to meet the requirements. Again, thanks in advance --Zara-arush (talk) 19:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I've added relevant cleanup tags. Looking at the issues presented in the tags is a good start. elektrikSHOOS 19:58, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Barry Zoeller

Let me know if that's better. If you feel it's still a copyright, then can send in for deletion. Let me know though. (JoeCool950 (talk) 23:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC))

That's better. Though in the future, please don't remove speedy delete tags from articles you've created yourself. Instead, put {{hangon}} beneath the tag and explain why it shouldn't be deleted on the talk page. (I'll let it go this time.) elektrikSHOOS 23:52, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
It got removed, when I went to where I first started the page. I could add that at the bottom, if you want, or just forget it. (JoeCool950 (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC))
Don't bother, you've already fixed the copyright violation. -- elektrikSHOOS 23:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
That's cool. I should have corrected it with the tag on there. Sorry. If you want, you can go to the page and remove the tags. Sorry. You can let me know if I did right, for the next time, so that I know. I should have though, rewrote it in my Sandbox, and then put the {{hangon}} on there. Thanks for let me know that the violation has been fixed. Sorry for the inconvience. (JoeCool950 (talk) 00:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC))
It's really a nonissue, the copyvio in your case was easily fixed, especially given that the article was of someone notable. No problem. Just try not to do it again next time, of course. elektrikSHOOS 00:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


Is o.k. for the copyright stuff to be in your sandbox, since it's something that is going to be worked on. Was just wondering? (JoeCool950 (talk) 00:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC))

I'd leave it where it is, as it's fine for now. If you really want to move it, though, see Help:Userspace draft for the standard procedure of where to put it. (You could put it in your sandbox too, I guess.) I'll let you know that as of right now I'm cleaning up the article for you, adding an infobox and whatnot. elektrikSHOOS 00:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
That will work. Glad you added the tags on top, so the article can be improved. Thanks for your help. (JoeCool950 (talk) 02:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC))

Tehachapi Unified School District

Would you mind looking at the Tehachapi Unified School District page? Some user added some stuff. I was looking at the stuff about the schools, and they look like they were copy and could be a copyright violation. Let me know what is, and I could take it off. Fixed the advertisement problem, maybe. If it's still there (advertisement problem) under the schools, let me know, and I can get that fixed back up. I think I'll add an infobox also to the page. (JoeCool950 (talk) 04:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC))

There's no advertisement problem on those articles. Just so you know, it's acceptable to speak about something positively. The main thing is to avoid ambiguous statements that may introduce a biased point of view. Look over Wikipedia:Manual of Style (words to watch) to get an idea of what is and is not acceptable. All of those pages look fine to me. Definitely add the infobox. Nearly any article can be improved with an infobox. elektrikSHOOS 05:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Also, the copyright violation for text means that you can't copy or paste, or closely paraphrase, text from any other source. That's often referred to in other cases as plagiarism, and on Wikipedia it's nearly always a very serious issue. The only exception to this is text that's copied from a source that's either in the public domain or has a GDFL-compatible license, which is in such a narrow range of situations that you generally shouldn't worry about at all. See Wikipedia:Copyright violations. elektrikSHOOS 05:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


Would you be able to find out which administrator deleted my sandbox. Trying to work on the Tehachapi Unified School District page. Some person reverted what you said was fine and took all that stuff off about the schools. I did get my sandbox back up, but feel, since it's my own sandbox to work in, no need to contact them. (JoeCool950 (talk) 22:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC))

I don't know exactly what article you're talking about, but you can always check who edited any page on Wikipedia via the "History" tab which is on the top of the page. Browse through there, find the problem editor and take it up directly with the editor. Though I would point out several things:
  • Don't assume it was an admin who reverted the content on that page. Any contributor can undo any change, and a fairly large amount of editors also have rollback abilities, which allows reverting an edit with one click. (I, for instance, have rollback abilities and I'm certainly not an admin.)
  • If you decide to deal with the editor directly, remember, please, to assume good faith. Most editors don't necessarily do things for a malicious reason. If an editor reverted one of your articles it likely had a good reason attached to it.
  • And of course, be civil and remember not to assume ownership of articles. Wikipedia, of course, is a collaborative project and no article is "owned" by any person. Remember this when dealing with a problem editor.
Hope this helps. Good luck. elektrikSHOOS 23:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
On my sandbox (User:JoeCool950/Sandbox)it doesn't say which administrator deleted it on the Wikipedia via the "History" tab, because I recreated the page with what I'm working on. Hopefully that was o.k.? I was going to take the tab that was on there off, I was practicing, but an administrator saw that, and thought it was marked for deletion, and deleted the page. Hopefully, since it's my sandbox, I could recreate it. Hopefully, that helps with the what I was first talking about. (JoeCool950 (talk) 02:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC))
The second thing I was talking about was the page about the schools on Tehachapi Unified School District that you said was o.k. and wasn't copyrighted. I could give you the name of the user who reverted (it wasn't an administrator). I left him a good faithful message for a reason why he reverted it. Told this user that I was told there wasn't anything wrong with it. We'll see what he says. One thing I am going to do is kind of rewrite the stuff in my sandbox that looks to be copied, and see what this user does. If he reverts it back, then I'll have to send him a message like what you sent and that it could be vandalism, and watch this guy. If I put the stuff back up, he'll just reverted, and that will start stuff that don't need to be started. Just want the users side of things. Although, this user took off the infobox, when he reverted it, is that considered vandalism, or not? If it is, I could go back to the page, and tell you the user. Just let me know. (JoeCool950 (talk) 02:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC))


Hopefully, you saw my previous questions above. I do know that I don't own the articles, so I definitely, don't assume ownership. I asked the user for his reason for reverting it, so then that way, I can know if it was of good faith. Although, for our own wikipedia pages about ourselves, do you own thoughs, or no (even our sandbox)? Thought I'd ask that? Was just wondering. (JoeCool950 (talk) 06:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC))

Sorry, I haven't been online. I don't really know how to weigh in, to be honest. Wikipedia is really a flexible thing, and edit disputes such as these depend on the particular situation. I'm not sure what advice to give other than to be direct with the editor, be civil and to try to assume good faith. Sorry. elektrikSHOOS 08:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Just want to point out, comments such as "RHworth needs to get lost" certainly don't help the situation. elektrikSHOOS 08:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Insightdolphin research company

Thank you for changing the speedy deletion tag to a multiple one. I didn't even know that option existed! -- roleplayer 17:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I only discovered it few days ago. It's pretty awesome. Now only if Twinkle supported it. elektrikSHOOS 17:12, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
You mean it doesn't? Darn. (I'm on the laptop at the moment and have to do everything manually because I can't be arsed to download firefox...) -- roleplayer 17:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Nope. Normally what I do is tag an article initially with Twinkle using the more obvious definition (so that it will notify the author) and then go back in and manually add the additional ones. It's a bit involved but it works. elektrikSHOOS 17:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
OK I'll remember that when I'm on the PC. Thanks. -- roleplayer 17:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Wow, I had no idea about Template:Obituary. I would always just speedy those articles. Now I feel like a dick. Anyway, thanks for being a fellow new pages patroller. Also, your 3rd userbox is broken. Hope to see you around. --mboverload@ 02:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

AIV report

Thank you for your report on User:Clubrapperha at Administrator intervention against vandalism. I have warned the user about spam. Only if the user persists after warnings will a block be necessary. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


How Do I Delete My Article?--S1312 (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll put a template on the article for you. elektrikSHOOS 19:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Category Developmental dyslexia

Than you for your prompt action dolfrog (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem. elektrikSHOOS 21:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


I tried using Talkback, it's not working the way I think it does. Decided to leave you a message on your page since I know how that works. Sorry about the invalid redirects, was doing some editing in Word and I didn't notice it was inserting the apostrophe first. I managed to get to one of the redirects before you did. If I do it again it will be by accident, and hopefully I will catch it sooner. Thanks a lot.Cmills1493 (talk) 22:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

LogicMonitor Speedy deletion request

Ok, I'm clearly a new Wikipedia person. I had a few people request we add our product to But in order to do that, that page editor requires that the product page exist first. So, I created a product page, which you've marked for speedy deletion.

Any insight as to why the LogicMonitor page would be marked for deletion, and not that of, say, Accelops, or Nimsoft, whose product page is very comparable to the one I created? Any guidance appreciated. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steverfrancis (talkcontribs) 23:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Her Majesty's Wizard

I see you have added six more articles to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Her Majesty's Wizard. I fully agree with adding them , but you should have also tagged those articles with {{subst:afd1|Her Majesty's Wizard}}, as explained at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list multiple related pages for deletion. I have now done this, but I thought it might help to mention it in case of a similar situation arising again. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know how to do that and was actually about to head over to the Help Desk so that someone could tell me. 10 WikiPoints for being proactive. elektrikSHOOS 10:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


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For all your hard work on reverting vandalism, speedy deletion, etc. Great stuff! Winston365 (talk) 01:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you elektrikSHOOS 02:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. I see you have been using Huggle lately. I take it you are on a Mac; is it working smoothly? Are you using Wine? Winston365 (talk) 02:45, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I'm on Windows right now (via Boot Camp). Huggle was misbehaving on Wine, and since I had Windows installed anyway I just put on there rather than fight with it on the Mac side. elektrikSHOOS 02:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Ahh...yah, I agree it's a rather funky with Wine. You may want to look at Igloo. It is quite new, and I only noticed it a few days ago, but looks promising. It's still well behind Huggle in features, but if you don't want to have to deal with Windows, and don't mind not using Safari, it might be kinda cool. I haven't really played with it yet tho. Winston365 (talk) 03:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Reverts on Cuckold

It could be a good idea for you to properly justify your editing reverts, since "unconstructive" is not a proper justification, especially in a case where the addition was the answer to a FAQ. -- Q-FUNK —Preceding undated comment added 09:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC).

I'm assuming you're referring to your unsourced additions on Cuckold. I'm not buying it as an actual term. Source it or stop adding it, please. elektrikSHOOS 09:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


Just wondering how I can alert fans of the book that there is an International Christine Club dedicated to the book and film without it coming accross as advertising? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Bring the question to Wikipedia:Help Desk so that editors other than myself can answer. Generally I'd say you couldn't as a link to a fan club within an article generally isn't considered encyclopedic but another editor might have a better answer. elektrikSHOOS 01:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, you shouldn't, period, per WP:COI, if you're affiliated with the group you're trying to link to. elektrikSHOOS 01:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Living room

"Living room" is the literal English translation of the German word "lebensraum". This link is needed for those looking for information on the Nazi political ideology who only know the English phrase. Please refrain from reverting anonymous edits without reading them. Thanks. (talk) 22:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Your edit summary was very short. To me, linking to anything involving Nazis outside of the context of World War II normally screams vandal. My apologies for reverting. (Next time try to explain what you just said to me the first time around.) elektrikSHOOS 22:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks . . .

. . . for catching that vandal who was impersonating me and vandalizing pages. At first, I thought my own account had been compromised, then I noticed the extra "(talk)" at the end of the username. You'd think that Wikipedia would have an automatic filter for stuff like that. Cheers! -- Bgpaulus (talk) 23:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Bearswithsnares

Please protect it – the user's been trying to remove block messages. TEK (talke-mail) 03:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not an admin. Let User:Materialscientist know. elektrikSHOOS 03:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, it appears to me that his block settings have been changed, so never mind! =) TEK (talke-mail) 03:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Udaya.cegon

He had had his three warnings, I gave him a fourth. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh right. I completely looked over the welcome notice. Nevermind. Sorry, I'm tired. *self facepalm* elektrikSHOOS 07:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Not a problem. My bed time, too.  :) Everard Proudfoot (talk) 07:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


Hey, I have added citations on The Secret Friend page but the warning sign have not disappeared. What should I do? I hope I am giving to this message the right format requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaSmithNY (talkcontribs) 23:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You have to remove maintenance templates such as that one yourself. I've gone ahead and removed it for you. elektrikSHOOS 02:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Great. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaSmithNY (talkcontribs) 03:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Leave the Chevrolet Spark page alone.

The Chery QQ has nothing to do with the Chevrolet Spark. I would suggest you to investigate a little bit more about the subject matter. Here is a link that explains more about the issue of GM vs Chery —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mundotaku (talkcontribs) 04:57, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I reverted the page once two days ago because of a good-faith vandalism check and you tell me to leave the page alone? Is there a reason for this? Please try to remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. This hostility is completely unnecessary. elektrikSHOOS 06:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Boyd Crowder

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I have nominated Boyd Crowder, an article that you appear to have an interest in, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boyd Crowder. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.   — Jeff G. ツ 23:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

CSD of RIM musical club

It appears that article was already created and deleted at least one other time today.... Pianotech Talk to me!/Contribs 18:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Unless it was deleted per an Afd there's nothing we can do other than tag it with a7 again. But I'll warn the author. elektrikSHOOS 18:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Cool. Two of my biggest pet peeves are authors removing tags without improving the articles, and recreating deleted articles exactly as they were before they were deleted! Pianotech Talk to me!/Contribs 18:48, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I hate that too. The good news is, authors who do either of those things repeatedly can get blocked. elektrikSHOOS 18:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

AFD of Tekken X Street Fighter

Look the title up on google, many sources. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 23:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Did you read WP:CRYSTAL? elektrikSHOOS 23:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry but did you? It says if the events are unverifiable. The game was announced today. Articles are pouring in on the announcement by Namco and Capcom. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 23:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Then add sources and remove the PROD. elektrikSHOOS 23:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Certainly. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 23:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for help

I love Wikipedia and made the mistake of using the Article Wizard to create a page called "Postconsumers" which was speedy deleted (I mistakenly thought it met the notability requirement). Now the page title, with a damaging sentence about its lack of importance, still exists when people search Google for "Postconsumers" (happening a lot since it was just featured on the MSN homepage). Can you or someone please delete the page altogether, which is what I assumed speedy deletion meant? To leave the same page title without its content (and with a condemnation) as an active link on the web is harmful to all, which Wikipedia doesn't deserve. Thanks very much for your help; I found your talk page through my talk page.Carolholst (talk) 01:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The article appears to have been deleted and is no longer on Wikipedia, so you don't need to worry about that. However, this doesn't affect outside indexing by outside search engines. If a site such as Google or MSN has indexed the page, it should disappear from searches within a day or two. However, it may take up to a week for them to update/clear their search indexes entirely. There's nothing we (over here) can do about that. Sorry.
I should point out too that if you want to work on an article for eventual inclusion without the risk of deletion, you can create what is called a userspace draft. Since the page is in your personal userspace, you can edit the article freely, and ask for feedback if desired, without the risk of speedy deletion. Let me know if you want to know how to set that up. elektrikSHOOS 01:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

O'Reilly's Guesthouse

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Hey mate, you tagged this article in a number of ways, I attempted to go through and clean it up to match your standards. Let me know if more needs to be done.

Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moggo (talkcontribs) 00:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, by adding sources and cleaning up a bit you've definitely satisfied both the notability and reference concerns. However, the article still reads like a promotional work and I'd suggest some cleanup in that regard. Read over Wikipedia:Manual of Style (words to watch), and then take a look at the article again to get an idea of what I mean. When you're editing articles about companies, organizations, groups or products you have to be especially careful so as to give information without sounding like you're advertising. Thanks for the cleanup, though, really. I can't tell you how many editors I've encountered that will either ignore cleanup tags and continue adding, or worse, continue their work on other pages as well. elektrikSHOOS 01:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Article deleted

Hey Elektrik Shoos, Wondering why my article was deleted? I cited all sources? Smartypants73 (talk) 03:45, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about the article Alisha Pillay. According to the deletion log (which you can see if you click through the wikilink) the article was deleted per CSD G11, which means that the page was exclusively promotional and would have needed to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Since someone has made this page at least once before, I'd recommend you start with a userspace draft first, which would allow you to work on a draft within your own personal userspace without the risk of speedy deletion. You could then ask for feedback from other editors once you believe it's ready enough for inclusion. Go to Help:Userspace draft to start one. The Article wizard can also guide you through the steps of making an article, and it also has an option to make a userspace draft (which you would want in this case).
Also, as noted on your own talk page by another editor, reliable sources cannot be edited or affiliated with the subject of the article, such as the subject's Myspace or Facebook profile. Please read over WP:RS to get an idea of what is and is not considered a reliable source. elektrikSHOOS 04:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Article also deleted

Do you run Wikipedia, or are you a random user who likes to cut down the dreams of children. I aspire to create my own casino game, and had made a very good one! Maybe all you did was scan through it to see if it's useful but it's actually fun. Obviously at the moment it has no value to society because it's not any bigger than me and my friend, but that could've easily changed. i wrote the article solely informatively and you just erased it! it was written like any other article! I'm a twelve year old boy who looks up to my brother who plays different poker games all the time and i just wanted to impress him. my user name is actually my brothers. I'm so sad that my game was up for no more than 30 mins just because it isn't real. Unless you own the site or work for it, in which case it's understandable that you would want to delete it to maintain verifiability of your site, then your just mean! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casinomaker99929 (talkcontribs) 19:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I do not own Wikipedia, but I am an editor who acts in accordance with its policies. Nor did I delete your article. The article was deleted by an admin per db-a7, which means it was about a club which did not assert the significance of the subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and is a widely used reference tool. It is not a place where you can post things you made up one day. Pages such as this one can damage the credibility and integrity of Wikipedia unless they are well-sourced and already in wide use. Please read over What Wikipedia is not to get an idea of what I'm saying, and don't introduce inappropriate pages in the future. Also, this kind of personal attack is absolutely uncalled for. Please be civil and assume good faith when dealing with other editors. elektrikSHOOS 19:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
My apologies, I did not wish to inflict emotional trauma on your wellbeing. I was just very offended that my article and game which had a combined total of 10 hours of work put into it, (in order to brainstorm the idea, calculate the odds, adjust the pay table and discover the optimal strategy, along with creating an account and article that could accurately describe the new game to a person who had not taken part in any of the proceeding work in creating such game, could understand it) could be deleted in under 20 minute. How ever attacking you was wrong, even though i didnt entirely attack you, because i did state that if you worked for wikipedia then it was understandable. Non the less, my behavior was inappropriate, and disrespectful for this I am sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casinomaker99929 (talkcontribs) 20:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

AfD Deletion of Elaine Mardis

Hi, Copyright/notability issues with Elaine Mardis, Timothy Ley and George Weinstock should now be resolved. Please see my talk page for more info. I also believe you may have added an AfD tag to Richard K Wilson as well (perhaps by mistake since it refers to Elaine Mardis). Thanks, --Gremerow (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Childs Play

Perhaps we can work this out, I worked hard on that article and it sites sources, I have information, theres no problem I can find. Im not trying to argue I just want to help and contribute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StevetheMovieMan (talkcontribs) 04:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

La Glorieta

I'm curious about the peacock tag on La Glorieta, which I just finished working on and I believe is well sourced. Which part do you think "may contain wording that merely promotes the subject without imparting verifiable information"? Camerafiend (talk) 02:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

In that article, two words immediately stood out to me as being potential peacock words - "historic" and "grandiose." (To be honest, I'm not sure why I tagged the article for two words without just fixing it, now that I think about it.) Anywho, per WP:PEACOCK, you should generally avoid words like that because they're essentially puffery. Clicking through the previous link will give you a better idea of what I'm talking about. elektrikSHOOS 02:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. I'm familiar with WP:PEACOCK. I don't see how "historic" constitutes puffery, as the building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places (emphasis added). As for "grandiose," the mansion is described in the cited source as "ornate" and a "Frontier Xanadu." I do not necessarily object to removing "grandiose," but it is backed up by the source (and, I feel, apt; here's a picture of the building in question). If you disagree on this point, I'll remove it. Camerafiend (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I'll bite on "historic." But even if it's cited as such in the source, I'm still wary about using a word like "grandiose." That's really more of a wording issue at this point, though. I don't feel like fighting today. Leave it, and feel free to remove the peacock tag. elektrikSHOOS 02:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually now that I've thought about it some, I agree with you on "grandiose"... it is sourced, but it really doesn't add anything to this article (which is about a different building anyway) and keeping it in will probably just cause more disputes. Thanks for your time. Camerafiend (talk) 02:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Irides: Master of Blocks

Irides: Master of Blocks I've made the necessary changes, get rid of the tags--Cube b3 (talk) 02:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

You can do it yourself, I won't stop you. elektrikSHOOS 02:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate it--Cube b3 (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Cecil Cooney Deletion

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cecil Cooney This was relisted "for a more thorough discussion" I challenged two of the points you made under your Delete, but you have not responded to that or any other points I tried to make. Is this really a discussion. Is this as good as it gets on Wikipedia?--Jacky Smythe (talk) 04:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I have made my points there, and I don't care to argue about it any further. Please do not contact me regarding this again. elektrikSHOOS 04:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I am not trying to argue. I am asking you; Is this really a discussion. You have not responded to the points I tried to make. Should you abuse me for trying to talk to you?--Jacky Smythe (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I have made my points there. IMDB can be edited by anyone and is not considered a reliable source. He is mentioned in passing in the other two articles. does not confer notability. Based on what is in the article it is not enough to confer notability. These are firm points, period. I'm not arguing about it anymore. I can understand if you don't want your article to be deleted, but you also need to understand that Wikipedia needs to be verifiable and it is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I am not arguing about it anymore. Please stop harassing me. elektrikSHOOS 04:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I contacted once. how is that harassment; You say my first words were to argue; your comments and everything you say is worthless, if you don't have time to be thorough, then why bother. And don't talk to me like your the headmaster, you idiot--Jacky Smythe (talk) 05:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Do not refer to other editors as idiots. Your comment has been constituted as a personal attack and is not tolerated under any circumstances. If you continue to make comments such as this one you may be blocked from editing. elektrikSHOOS 05:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

gracious communion

thanks for the fix @ Dynamical Neuroscience. Please let me know if you have any input in general on the page. -X —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xurtio (talkcontribs) 04:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Value driven maintenance style

Hi, I've rewritten the article on value driven maintenance because there were commercial references; i've deleted these. Now it is mentioned that the article's tone or style is not appropriate. Could you indicate what to change in the article to make it more appropriate? Thanx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaspah (talkcontribs) 12:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Netflix GA review

Hello, I've reviewed Netflix against the GA criteria, and unfortunately it doesn't meet them at this time. I've left some comments and suggestions at the review page. Let me know if you have any questions.--BelovedFreak 12:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


Rainbow trout transparent.png Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Do not add the Notability tag again on Aldo Polanco! In addition that councillors' articles are sponsored by Wikiproject Chile, there are more of them! Please. Thanks. Diego Grez what's up? 18:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Being sponsored by a WikiProject does not, automatically, by definition, make someone notable. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I also daresay that this is a possible misuse of the trout template at well. Trout templates are really more for light screw-ups and other hilarious acts of idiocy, not serious instances of "i disagree with your tag, so don't add it again." It's like adding "lol" to the end of "I can't find my children." (Also, thanks Everard for the feedback.) elektrikSHOOS 08:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

The Crow (2011 film)

Yeah, I wouldn't have given the warning and reverted, except it was in the middle of an AfD. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Illinois listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect WikiProject Illinois. Since you had some involvement with the WikiProject Illinois redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Bridgeplayer (talk) 23:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


I've read on your userpage you've been WP:SOCK'd before. Is this User:Electric Shoes your account? —DuncanWhat I Do / What I Say 06:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

...and User:Elektrik Shoos sock? —DuncanWhat I Do / What I Say 06:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they are both legitimate socks, as well as User:Elektrikshoos, as I've noted on both their user pages. I'll make a note of it on my user page. Though the second one I actually have to go about deleting, as I realized I misspelled it. It's currently User:Elektrik Shoo sock. I left out the second 'S.' D'oh! elektrikSHOOS 06:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

PlayStation Good Article Review


I've read through your review and improved on the said areas. Can you re-review the article? Thanks.KiasuKiasiMan (talk) 08:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to let the article sit for the prespecified week before I look at it again. Thanks for improving it, though. elektrikSHOOS 08:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
No Problem. Thanks for reviewing it in the first place, been working on the article for awhile now, but it doesn't get much attention.KiasuKiasiMan (talk) 08:36, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Savlonic

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Removing Notability/Citation Tags for George Weinstock and Timothy Ley

Hi, Are you able to remove the tags on these articles or is there someone else I should ask? I believe these articles no longer contain these issues. Thanks, --Gremerow (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Anyone can remove them, including you. They're at the top of the page. elektrikSHOOS 17:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Keep up the good work

It's nice to have some company out there! ;) Whisky drinker | HJ's sock 19:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem! elektrikSHOOS 19:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know...

I went ahead and reverted your edit to List of Annoying Orange episodes. The edit you reverted to was dangerously close to violating WP:SPOILER and was unnecessarily long. -- (talk) 20:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem, was just doing a routine vandalism check on Huggle (unexplained removal of content). Thanks for explaining. elektrikSHOOS 20:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome, glad we're square on that. -- (talk) 01:16, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Medical university of Lodz

Before you point slanderous fingers at me take a look at the original version of the article. And you will see numerous cases of the school claiming that their students score the highest marks in Poland and that they are the most sophisticated research institution without providing any sources. Brazen bragging by the school which violates the policy neutral point of view. Go examine the article for yourself! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MakmoudHassan (talk

Taking out promotional text and replacing it with wording that makes the school looks subpar is just as bad. Read WP:NPOV. elektrikSHOOS 23:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
So what ever happened to maintaining a Neutral Point of View????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MakmoudHassan (talk
Do not remove comments by other people on talk pages. elektrikSHOOS 23:22, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Answer my question!! Why are you fighting against neutral point of view???? MakmoudHassan (talk)
I did: Taking out promotional text and replacing it with wording that makes the school looks subpar is just as bad. elektrikSHOOS 23:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi! You reverted my edit

You reverted my edit just now, on Justicia flavifora, saying it seemed to be unproductive or something like that. Without getting into to much complicated explanation, the edit was to that particular species was to organize the Category page for the genus. I have noticed that many Category pages for plant genera follow several different alphabets in one page, sometimes as many as four. This is because different species articles have set up the Category statement in different ways. I'm going through this page to set it up thus: The upper and lower case are important; these pages list the upper case in the first alphabet, and then follow it with lower case in the second. Setting up the statement the way I have explained arranges things in what seems to be a consensus. (talk) 23:17, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. Alright, disregard. I'll revert the reversion if you haven't already. elektrikSHOOS 23:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
It's happened before. No problem! Just curious how you did it so fast.
With this. elektrikSHOOS 23:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Netflix Citation Just throwing this your way, as attempted edits have failed (user error I'm sure), and I see you marked this item as citation needed. Device Support > Hardware support > Vizio Blu-ray Disc players and TVs bullet. [citations needed]

Vizio Blu-Ray Disc player streaming is documented on, or review pages from CNet and Amazon. The model numbers are VBR200 and VBR220/220W Vizio TV streaming is documented on Netflixs own site, stating only the XVT series TVs have this functionality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing these out. I'll cite them later. elektrikSHOOS 08:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


(re: Gav Cantrell)

Thanks for AfDing. It is getting late and I hadn't seen that it had already been prodded Polargeo (talk) 23:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I've been watching this article all day. elektrikSHOOS 23:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Just trying to be strict on not overdoing those A7s!! It is a lose lose situation for an admin. Polargeo (talk) 23:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I initially PRODed for that very reason (it asserted significance but had no sources) and for the fact that it was an autobiography. elektrikSHOOS 23:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


nae bother big yin thought ad put up eh wee message to say dinnae fash yersel aboot the wee hoohah aboot Davie Borthwick and thon references yer a sonsie loon fer daen thon reference table fer me - cheers ken aye Sologoal (talk) 23:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Er... no problem. elektrikSHOOS 23:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Scott Oake

Why are you reverting my edits to Scott Oake? They are not unconstructive and there is a banner at the top of the page requesting that users improve it by EXPANDING it. I have links to references if you want to help me add them... If you want to add to the discussion please drop into the talk page for Scott Oake. We would love to take your considerations on board. Otherwise, please don't just delete the material for the sake of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Given that the information you keep adding is unreferenced and fairly unencyclopedic, and that three revent edits from your IP had to be oversighted, my hopes aren't very high. The common procedure on Wikipedia is bold, revert, discuss. Bring it to the talk page if you want to add it. elektrikSHOOS 08:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been to the talk page... have you? I mention on the talk page that I'm going to add it, and ask for help with the references. Why don't you just help out instead of deleting the material and sending me vandalism templates? -Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
For BLPs, add the references with the information, please. Otherwise it just looks like you're adding unsourced information. elektrikSHOOS 08:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
So does that mean we must revise the entire article? All the information currently on the page is without references. There is currently only one reference at the bottom of the page. How do I add references?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
See Help:Footnotes. elektrikSHOOS 08:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
@ Given your track record and the dubiousness of the unverifiable content you are attempting to add, I would advise you to give this one up and go home. Consensus has already been reached, and it has been overwhelmingly against the material you are attempting to add. At some point in the very near future you will be permanently banned from editing. If that is your goal, I congratulate you. You're doing a fine job. Freshfighter9talk 13:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)