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The Signpost: 03 September 2012

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

Steven Zhang's Fellowship Slideshow

In this issue:

  • Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
  • Research: The most recent DR data
  • Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
  • Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
  • DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
  • Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
  • Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:10, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

WMF. v. IB

James, you are our hero already. Deryck C. 10:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Adverse effects of fluoroquinolones: review edits pls

Would you mind reviewing my reversions of Marinerfan08? I see you've edited the page in the past. Thanks in advance... Ultra Venia (talk) 21:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Agree with your reversions. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Ed newsletter

Id like to invite you to write a short article for the wiki Education newsletter about your efforts with the Wikipedia journal. We target teachers and other academics so I think its worthwhile! We publish in a week. All you have to do is go to the "newsroom" and type out a paragraph or two and we will get it in! [1] Thelmadatter (talk) 07:44, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Am away right now. When I return may be. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Coventry

Just wanted to repeat to you my thanks to Jacob for the work the wikiproject does to improve medical articles, and to add that your report about the article and translation efforts was the most inspiring moment of the day. People could see how this work will lead to better health for millions of people. Thanks also for writing it up so clearly on the wiki! Hope you enjoy the rest of your visit to the UK. MartinPoulter (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi James, it was a pleasure to meet you today. Your presentation was indeed inspiring. I'm sorry I could not stay for the afternoon session and to talk with you further, but I can already see how productive it was. Best wishes, Graham, Graham Colm (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks yes hoping we can build upon this. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Image size (map detail)

Hi, across wikipedia it is pretty normal to size maps (especially world maps) larger than the default so that people can readily see map detail. Misomucho (talk) 02:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Typically I leave them at default and than people can set the size as they like. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Methamphetamine

Hello Doc James, I've been working on our Meth mouth article recently and have it up for peer review now. This is the first medical article I've worked on, so I'm hoping for feedback about how I did with WP:MEDRS and WP:MEDMOS issues. No problem if you're busy/not interested, but I'd be very grateful if you could weigh in. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Away from home right now. Would be good to have a picture. Maybe an organization would be willing to release one under a CC license. Will take a look more when I get home. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:42, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Good point, I'll look around for something. I just saw the news, so I understand you are quite busy. Hope it all works out smoothly. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:29, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Another day, another New York Times cover...

Holy crap!

You're my hero, James! I couldn't be prouder of our community right now :) Accedietalk to me 04:08, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

ROTFL... Kudos James! Enjoy your travels—the both of you. —MistyMorn (talk) 09:41, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Looks like you fell afoul of the "intellectual rights" mafia. Give 'em hell! Be——Critical 17:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the support. I hope all turns out okay in the end. Very happy to have the Wikimedia Foundations and the majority of the movement behind us. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Add me to those applauding you! --Tryptofish (talk) 22:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For taking things head-on and doing so in the interest of Wikipedia and its community. Ocaasi t | c 17:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 September 2012

Malaria

Hi James, after a long period of relative dormancy, I'm itching to take malaria to the "next level". Would appreciate it if you could have a look at my responses to your comments at the GAN, and perhaps indicate if you're satisfied with the changes I've made. Thanks, Sasata (talk) 07:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Will take a look in a few weeks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

You've become a WikiHero!

All I want to say is be strong and don't back down! You're a WikiHero! 134.241.58.251 (talk) 18:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Doc James. You have new messages at Bluerasberry's talk page.
Message added 13:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Doc James. You have new messages at Talk:Circumcision#Another_ref.
Message added 15:59, 12 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Zad68 15:59, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Strange Characters

Righto. But where I come from we spell it with that letter ( I take it you were talking about the letter œþel [œ]? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tea and a lump o' cake (talk • contribs) 20:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes we do not typically change spelling from one country norm to another. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:06, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Sugarcube73 and edits to WP:MEDICINE articles

Hi Doc, did you have a chance to see this notice I posted at WT:MED? The gist is that I feel that Sugarcube73 is degrading the quality of a number of WP:MEDICINE articles with POV-pushing and sourcing that does not meet WP:MEDRS, and I am looking for support from the WP:MED community to take action to stop further damage. I've already tried talking to Sugarcube73 directly, giving him stern warnings, working with him collegially, and taking some of his edits to WP:NPOVN (where two editors agreed with me that his edits violate WP:NPOV). Even after Sugarcube73 promised to read WP:MEDRS, he's making edits like this (entirely unsourced opinion), here (especially see the "Public relations" section and its sourcing), and this (more entirely unsourced opinion), among many others. I note that Yobol has also found some of Sugarcube73's edits to have POV and sourcing problems, as seen by Yobol's edits summaries here and here. I posted my concerns to WT:MED two days ago and I'm surprised to find no support. I'd really like your feedback--are my concerns unfounded, or poorly stated, or was WT:MED the wrong place to go? Or does WP:MEDICINE not really care about the kinds of edits Sugarcube73 is making? Please let me know--if Sugarcube73's edits don't concern you, that's fine, just tell me and I'll drop it and go work on something else, but if you agree with me that this is a problem, I'd like to know what we should do next. Thanks.... Zad68 12:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I am currently away from home for the next few week traveling. Thus my limited response. Will take a look. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:04, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes I have concerns. Adding stuff like this [2] is in appropriate. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Doc, I'm glad to see my concerns are justified. Sad to say, there's plenty more like that diff you found. While you're at American Academy of Pediatrics, please do go back a little further in the edit history and take a look at, for one example, this edit followed by this edit that was used to help source it with a link to a foreskin-restoration.net chat forum posting... and again, this was after his promise to read WP:MEDRS. Zad68 18:41, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes the second edit ref is completely inappropriate. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:33, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I've largely finished fixing the AAP article, please do keep looking at his edits in other areas. I'm of the opinion that 'action' is warranted, please let me know your thoughts. Have a good weekend... Zad68 19:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Agree. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:40, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Many of this editor's edits are clearly inappropriate. However, both those circumcision subarticles basically need a re-write from a MEDRS standpoint (they use way too many primary studies, way too many old studies, undue weight to non mainstream views, etc). Yobol (talk) 01:50, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Glad you agree Yobol. Please let me know what the next step is here, I'll support as needed. Which 2 circumcision subarticles are you talking about? I can give it my best shot at bringing them in compliance with WP:MEDRS. Zad68 13:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking of Circumcision and HIV and Medical analysis of circumcision. I'll see what I can do to help eventually, but I think both articles basically need a re-write to get it up to standards, and I'm not sure I have the time/patience to do that right now. I have multiple other articles I've been planning on working on (some for over a year now), and frankly, I'm not sure I care enough about the topic of circumcision to deal with the eventual issues that will arise when trying to improve those articles. (See WP:CGTW #17). I'd be happy to pitch in, though, if others from WP:MED will assist. Yobol (talk) 14:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry Doc for having this conversation fill up your Talk page! Many points from WP:CGTW come to mind frequently as I edit... I've been considering writing down my own advice list. My approach to the thought behind WP:CGTW #17 is in its inverse, The Wikipedia Catch 22: "You will do your best editing work on articles you know and care nothing about." I don't really care about circumcision either, it's of no interest or relevance to me. But somehow my attention got drawn to the article, and I have to review what keeps me interested in editing Wikipedia in the first place. It makes me feel good to do valuable work--to think that I'm taking complicated, hard-to-access information and making it available to people who need it. Circumcision is a Wikipedia top-1000 article by views, with over a quarter-million views in the past month, more than Diabetes mellitus, more than Blood pressure, and it is in fact WP:MEDICINE's #1 most popular medical intervention article. I think WP:MED should be prioritizing it and its related articles.

But I'm interested to get involved in other areas too. Yobol, if you've got some WP:MED work you've been meaning to get, let me help, it would help you get your articles done, I'd get more experience, and the circumcision-related articles might then be able to benefit from your freed-up time. Maybe I should put my name down on the WP:MED list. Zad68 02:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I've been trying to work though Medical analysis of circumcision today and wow... you're right, it's a real stinker. Ad-hoc fixing won't work, it really needs a ground-up rewrite. *Rolling up sleeves...* Zad68 20:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a complete train wreck. The fact that Circumcision is so popular is the only reason I kept it on my watchlist (I only showed up after someone asked for assistance at WT:MED, if memory serves). I've had 4 or 5 articles on my "to-do" list already. I'll add those circumcision pages to it as well, though no guarantees, and will add them to my watchlist. Yobol (talk) 02:52, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Just having you Watchlist the articles would be a big help, thank you. From my (relatively brief) experience with the circ articles, all it takes is about 3 experienced editors reverting obviously bad edits and participating in Talk page discussions to keep things on track, and we've had at least three of the regulars go AWOL in the past months. Appreciate it. I'll give the medical analysis article a start, and again, if you have any other, non-foreskin related article work you feel like farming out, I'll do my best. Zad68 03:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Yobol, Doc and anybody else who's interested, I reviewed the edits Sugarcube73 had made to Foreskin over the past few weeks, here are some highlights:

  • He added 8 new sources to the article, from publication dates: 1998, 1998, 1998, 1973, 1966, 1959, 1947, and... 1916. Yes, 1916, supporting new article content detailing the anatomy. Seven of the eight sources he added were from the anti-circumcision advocacy site CIRP.
...and I just can't help but point out that in this edit he called Masters & Johnson (1966) "antique." What does that make 1916?
  • One of the sources he added was a older, primary source--an anti-circumcision polemic--that he used to contradict a newer, secondary source... (What happened to his disgust for other editors who "favoured case reports and such instead of review articles"?)
  • and in this edit he moved sentences around to place an individual primary study from Sorrells 2007 ahead of the newer, reliable secondary source, the CPSBC 2009 statement...
  • ...but even though he demonstrates he has no issue using very old sources, he removed previously-existing article content based on Szabo (2000) regarding how the foreskin is the probable pathway for HIV infection.
  • This was topped off with COI spam and unsourced content, among a few other issues.

I have undone all the content changes he did as there really wasn't a single worthwhile content improvement to be found in his edits. It appears that Sugarcube73 has pretty much stopped making edits to medical articles, but I wanted to record here some of his most... er, notable edits from that article in case he starts again. This sort of cleanup is time-consuming for me and it's not the kind of editing I want to be having to do. Zad68 03:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

FYI, Sugarcube73 is back to editing medical articles. I reverted his recent addition of a WP:PRIMARY to foreskin and left him a message asking him to follow WP:MEDRS. Zad68 19:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for pressing this

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
AWARDED
For rejecting the idea that Wiki users are property of the site owner
And rejecting private ownership of public domain material


After reading the New York Times article, I realize that the present lawsuit claim of tortious interference against you is based on the basic notion that we, as Wiki users - whether on Wikitravel, WikiHow, Encyclopedia Dramatica, countless other Wikis, or even here on Wikipedia - are in fact an asset, i.e. property, of the owners of the site, who can demand that we not be talked to, not told alternative outlets for our publication of material we choose to release under a CC license. For everyone on every Wiki in the world, we owe you a debt of gratitude for standing up to this unreasonable legal claim, in defense of our right to be free and unowned people. We did not join the free content movement to be somebody's property or to have our conversations subjected to somebody's censorship.

This comes on the heels of your previous efforts with the Rorschach test issue, where you stood up for the idea that yes, the public domain is really public domain, and a company can't extend its copyright forever just by doing a little self-serving moralizing. Wnt (talk) 22:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Agree completely. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:35, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes; that's good work on the travel wiki. I hope you and Mr Holliday are getting all you need from the foundation. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 06:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
I have just been reading up on the case, and wanted to drop by to offer my support, for what it's worth.
It appears to be a bullying attempt to prevent people from actually using the CC license. If content cannot be forked, the CC license would lose a lot of its value. I know that it's not fun being in the middle of a legal battle, but thank you persisting with this. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

barnstar

The Medicine Barnstar
Congratulations! The Chinese version of Streptococcal pharyngitis (zh:链球菌性咽炎) is now a GA! Jsjsjs1111 (talk) 10:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Wonderful to hear :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Precious

editor outreach
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on preventive and emergency medicine in quality articles, for Dengue fever and Schizophrenia, and for reaching out to editors who resign because of the fever and schizophrenia the project can be, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Migraine

re your comment on my talkpage: You're very welcome. I learned a lot from your article so it was my pleasure. (visual migraines, scintillating scotoma etc.) MathewTownsend (talk) 13:20, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hair loss

The headers of the section do not convey prevelence limits. Until they do, the hair loss side effect is not less frequent than a reader expect to be informed about at that section. Additionally, 256 known incidents out of max 77,000,000 head scans per year is more than 3 cases per million, which is about the same frequency as death from iodine. The latter is reported at the same section indicating that such freqencies are covered in the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.35.63.145 (talk) 04:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The weight is disclosed in the detailed text, hence there isn't a false impression of weight that is not supported, hence no undue weight. As I wrote above, the section is not limited by a threshold frequency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.35.63.249 (talk) 07:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 September 2012

Rudolf Virchow

I'm not sure why, but if you check Rudolf Virchow you'll see a lot of vandalism. Perhaps you see it worthy of some sort of protection? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Done Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine/Translation Task Force help

Hi!

hopefully you can help me.

I want to help the WikiProject Medicine translating articles from English to Croatian. Roberta F., the lead integrator of Croatian Wikiproject medicine suggested to contact you, and ask you how to join the WikiProject Medicine/Translation task force. I tried to contact Enrique Cavallito on his Translators Without Borders e-mail, but he did not answered me. Maybe this mail is no longer active.

I'm a physician, I graduated in Italy at Faculty of Medicine of Trieste, have also a Ph.D in medical biochemistry. Actually, I write and edit the articles of basic biochemistry at Croatian wikipedia.

My native language is Croatian, but I'm fluent in Italian and quite good in English.

I think I could provide valuable help in translation from English to Croatian and from Italian to Croatian.

Can you help me join the project?

Thank you very much in advance for any attention.

Best regards,--Dean72 (talk) 22:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Forgive me for answering in place of Doc James, but I understand he is travelling. I believe you want to read through Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Translation Task Force, sign up at http://translatorswithoutborders.org/How-to-Register (mentioning Wikipedia's Translation Task Force), and then leave a message that you have done so in a new section at User talk:Enrique Cavalitto which will reach him even if you have an old email address. Mention that there is no Croatian lead at Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Translation task force/People yet. You might also want to get in touch with hr:Razgovor_sa_suradnicom:Roberta_F. who is listed as the Croatian Lead Integrator. —Cupco 23:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Wonderful. Email me and I will put you in contact with Enrique. I am actually in Rome right now :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:56, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Parkinson's science learning project in Wikiversity

Hi. I'd like to bring your attention to a new learning project in Wikiversity. As you have been involved with the discussion on the wikipedia Parkinson's disease page I felt you might be interested in looking at the project and perhaps even contributing material to it. Please see my Talk page, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Droflet#The_Science_Behind_Parkinson.27s_learning_project , the subpage, http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Droflet/ProjectDescription or the project itself , http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:The_Science_Behind_Parkinson%27s . It would be great if you could bring the project to the attention of others who might be interested in helping us develop it. Thanks.

Jtelford (talk) 16:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC) (My Wikiversity Username is Droflet)

Never edited over at Wikipversity. Will take a look. You are attempting to generate teach material about parkinsons? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. It is not so much a set of teaching materials but a learning project, if you see the distinction. It is about 'researching Parkinson's research' and people sharing what they have learned with others. There is a structured section with a lot of good quality material in it already. There is also a magazine section where we have started to put discussions about current research. We are also working on a section to explain the science behind Parkinson's in easy steps for people new to it, such as the newly diagnosed. The wiki must all be fully referenced, of course, because we don't want to end up with an undisciplined forum where people spout opinions, anecdotes and ill-informed nonsense. Do have a look at it and let me know what you think. We really want people to know about this and to get involved with editing, adding new material and keeping it up to date! I hope you can help spread the word. Jtelford (talk) 09:52, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

ADHD paper needed

Hi Doc, I hope that all is well with you. I was wondering if you could get this paper for me please? It was previously freely available as full text and I intended to use it for the ADHD article. It has some important information on a unique neuropsychological profile present in ADHD young people who have a high IQ that can be misdiagnosed on cognitive testing and I thought it would be of value for our readers in the diagnosis section of the ADHD article. If you are too busy, it can wait, no major rush. Thanks.--MrADHD | T@1k? 16:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

"In other animals"

I've changed the guideline anyways to harmonize with the greater guideline. Such statements as "this is the guideline we use" is in contradiction of the wider wikipedia community. Local projects do not have jurisdiction over their relevant articles and local guidelines do not have supersession over guidelines with wider consensus.Curb Chain (talk) 01:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay I am happy with "other animals" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:44, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Meningitis

I have no real additions to propose to the content of meningitis. I am not aware of any new professional guidelines (IDSA and BIS really should be doing this as we approach the 10th anniversary of both documents), despite some movement in the steroids debate. I support recent edits made by yourself. There are some areas in the world that would benefit from a better article purely about cryptococcal meningitis. JFW | T@lk 20:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hemorrhoid

It looks fairly comprehensive as you have left it...but I will have a good look, pull out some textbooks see if anything could be added. tepi (talk) 09:53, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:34, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I looked for the ISBN, but could not find it. It is referenced in Agbo 2011. I will have a better look now tepi (talk) 20:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Not found... suggest replace refs to this book with Agbo 2012 ... if no ISBN is a problem. tepi (talk) 20:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Secondary sources

Thanks for the clarification about secondary sources vs. reviews and major textbooks. I agree and that makes sense. I have one concern still about the current wording in the section on alternative medicine, which I posted about on the talk page, with the passive voice wording "are thus not recommended". I would be more comfortable with you rewording this than me, because I think you have a more thorough understanding of the subject than I do, but I'm not comfortable having the text in passive voice because it's not clear to me what it means. Here's a link to Talk:Osteoarthritis#Mis-cited_section_on_Alternative_medicine. Cazort (talk) 03:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hay replied on the talk page. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:08, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Doc James. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Migraine-related_articles_giving_me_a_headache....
Message added 18:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Zad68 18:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Colorectal Cancer incidence

Hi You undid my edits to the CAUSES section of the colorectal cancer page (added incidence data and removed repetition with prevention section). Don't you think it's a good idea to include incidence data ? Otherwise how can people interpret risk.

Byronsharp (talk) 21:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Translating wikipedia

My name is Claudia Heck and I have been a translator for the las 16 years. I have been also working as a healthcare translator and interpreter for the last 8 years in Minnesota. I read in twitter about health related translations here. Please contact me to give me more information to be part of the team. You can contact me at czh_translations@yahoo.com. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.210.91.2 (talk) 15:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful. Thank you for dropping me a note and I have sent you an email with further details. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:54, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 September 2012

Dispute Resolution RFC

Hello.As a member of Wikiproject Dispute Resolution I am just letting you know that there is an RFC discussing changes to dispute resolution on Wikipedia. You can find the RFC on this page. If you have already commented there, please disregard this message. Regards, Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 08:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

RevDel?

Hi. I sent you an email asking if you'd consider deleting a BLP violation. Cheers. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 18:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Mike

Sorry for not getting back sooner. Was this the sourcing error you referred to in the email? Are there more? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 01:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

No that was it. The main issue with Mike however is the ongoing lack of civility. I am unable to let this sort of language / comments persist within the medicine topic area. We spend so much time / money / effort attempting to convince more health care professionals to join Wikipedia and take our work seriously and this sort of stuff does not help. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I agree; and so does Mike, at least he did the last time we discussed it. He's said on-wiki that he has self-control problems and is slowly mastering that. I've noticed a significant improvement in his behaviour over the last couple of years compared with his very combative beginning, but he has some way to go on the road to ideal. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 05:34, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Mike is now blocked by another admin as per here [3]. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
On a vaguely related topic... While on vacation you may or may not have seen this incident (etc) on the EBM talk page involving myself and another user. I felt strongly enough about it to take the matter (rightly or wrongly) to ANI [4]. —MistyMorn (talk) 07:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Help in finding a mentor for the best newbie editor I've ever seen

I was AFCing today and I found this article which is bar none the best AFC article I've ever encountered. The article appears to be in the medical area? With a bit of polish it can probably make GA status. I want to make sure the editor gets all the help he/she needs to write more articles. I'll keep an eye on this user, but I don't have much experience in newbie mentoring. Would you mind finding somebody to mentor this editor? Thanks. Alanl (talk) 18:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Will leave them a welcome. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 01 October 2012

Re:Help with translation into Italian

Hello!

Of course, a help in translation would be great. Right now I'm working on Coeliac disease, Parkinson's disease, Meningitis (almost finished)

I would also suggest an item to be translated from Italian to English: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindrome_di_Klinefelter (aka Klinefelter's syndrome). Are you interested?

Thanks for your cooperation and good work

Adert --79.50.56.142 (talk) 10:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay will let her know. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Bias in how MEDRS is interpreted with respect to alternative medicine?

I'm concerned with what I see as an inconsistency in how alternative treatments are treated and how WP:MEDRS is applied. I see you've been removing some of my edits, like those on Skin cancer, and I understand that the sources I cited were not reviews or meta-analyses, so they don't seem to fit with the guidelines in MEDRS.

I want to invite you to look at the page on tea tree oil. This is an example of the sort of bias I see. On this page, there is extensive discussion of a single case study which drew highly dubious conclusions based on a single patient. This then creates a whole paragraph about concerns about potential negative side-effects of using tea tree oil. It doesn't seem at all consistent to allow this kind of source and commentary on a page like that, but to not allow sources and commentary like the ones I added on the skin cancer page.

I would like to see you apply the same sort of "pruning" and high standards to the tea tree oil article as to the article on skin cancer, as an example. I'm not a good person to carry this out, because I don't particularly agree with the MEDRS guidelines, and I also am heavily biased against western medicine so I don't necessarily trust myself to be fully impartial in editing. Cazort (talk) 16:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Can I save James the bother of replying? He's a busy kind of guy and he can scarcely be held personally responsible for every glitch going! It might be better to make this sort of request for help at WT:MED, where the relatively small number of editors who try to keep abreast (and address) this kind of issue collectively tend to hang out.

Having taken a quick look at the page, I can see there are issues which actually stem, imo, from not following MEDRS. Reliable secondary sources aren't exactly lacking: on PubMed [5], "Tea Tree Oil"[majr] AND Review[ptyp] retrieves 13 more or less recent sources (while "Tea Tree Oil"[mh] NOT "Tea Tree Oil"[majr] AND Review[ptyp] provides a further 13 less specific ones). —MistyMorn (talk) 17:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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