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Hi Jobberone, good edit in the Dinofelis article: Thanks.--Altaileopard 13:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Altaileopard. Just learning. Hope I didn't step on your toes. I tried to keep any previous authors' thoughts intact and merge mine with it. My first time. Jobberone 02:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For extant mammal species, we generally follow MSW3. For this reason, Snow Leopard is Uncia uncia. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Solve for X[edit]

Hi Jobberone. I've accepted your AfC submission into mainspace. It is now located at Solve for X. Thank you for your work! Goodvac (talk) 22:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

February 2012[edit]

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User talk:Bidgee has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 11:06, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I see what happened. I left the least offensive thing I could think of since Bidgee looked solid. I just misread his own revision. Not sure what happened in clearing the vandalism. The IP address that left it was not warned. Thanks.Jobberone (talk) 11:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Earth vs. the Flying Saucers[edit]

Well, this is the first time in my Wikipedia career I've been accused of vandalism! I replaced some reverted overwriting with some minor tweaks, that's all. kencf0618 (talk) 02:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ken. It was the word cum that I was looking at. It triggered a vandalism alert. I couldn't really tell if it was the bad word or not so I reverted it. If it really means something else then please revert it back to the way you had it. Cheers! I'll leave this on your talk page as well.Jobberone (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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ORN[edit]

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WikiProject Wikify March Mini Drive[edit]

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Hey, sorry to bother you [again], but the March "Mini" drive doesn't start until March 8, 2012, 00:00 AM UTC (see drive page for dates), due to some complicated organizing. I realize other users may have gone ahead and started logging, but i have left them a note too. Thanks again, benzband (talk) 20:08, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

World War[edit]

Hi, with this edit you changed World War II into World War 2. However, throughout Wikipedia "World War II" is/seems to be the preferred notation; so i'm changing it back (unless you have an objection). Cheers, benzband (talk) 18:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I changed it from WW2 to WW II while wikifying it. Left you a message on your talk page.Jobberone (talk) 20:01, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Facepalm Facepalm Oh my goodness, i must be getting tired (i am very tired, but it's no excuse :) I mixed up the two sides on the diff! :P I'm sooo sorry about this, please accept my apologies. Best regards, benzband (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Goodness. Don't worry a second. If that offended me I'd need some serious counseling.Jobberone (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute question[edit]

Hello, I and one other author have been going back and forth with edits on the Stress Field Detector article. I stopped editing the article but have continued documenting on the talk page. However, not sure if or when any other editors will look into this. The other author who goes by 173.180.170.31 or Alik 72 claims to have been involved with the technology at an early stage and I question whether he should be editing. Overall the article has become sloppy (lots of unreferenced claims) and I'd appreciate if someone else could take a look at it. Saw Feynman above so thought this might of interest. I started the article in 2008 when I first discovered wikipedia. Probably should have left this to the pros. --Hmatos (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RSVP cycles[edit]

You didn't finish the job. You have to make the discussion page at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RSVP cycles. But if the page is a copyvio, I'll remove that and tag it for speedy deletion instead. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:57, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

March Mini Wikification Awards![edit]

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The WikiProject Wikify Special Award is bestowed upon Jobberone for a first-place appearance on the March Mini 2012 leaderboard.
The Gold Wikification Barnstar
The Gold Wikification Barnstar is also given to Jobberone, for wikifying a full —and outstanding— 200 articles during the March Mini drive. Good job! benzband (talk) 13:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Changes to DRN[edit]

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DRN needs your help![edit]

Hey there Jobberone, I noticed you've listed yourself as a volunteer at the dispute resolution noticeboard but you haven't been very active there lately - I was hoping if you had some spare time if you could take a look there and offer some assistance. Thanks again for your help :-) Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I've been busy lately but I'll try to do a little work here and there. Thanks for the invite. Jobberone (talk) 21:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I came to answer the question from my talk page. When closing thread you need to (all within the case):

  1. replace the first unnamed argument of {{DR case status}} (it should be "open", "stale" or "review") with either "resolved" (if resolved on noticeboard) or "closed" (if resolved elsewhere or DR failed);
  2. replace the string starting with "" with a template {{DRN archive top|rationale here ~~~~}};
  3. put {{DRN archive bottom}} at the bottom of the case.

So it would look like this: 

== Example article ==
{{DR case status|resolved}}
{{drn filing editor|Example|13:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)}}
{{DRN archive top|Consensus on wording was reached. ~~~~~}}
<span style="font-size:110%">'''Have you discussed this on a talk page?'''</span>
<...>
{{DRN archive bottom}}

Hope I wasn't too late to answer. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 18:30, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope not to late and extremely helpful. You sir are a gentleman! Thanks! Jobberone (talk) 19:21, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article Mixed breed dog[edit]

Thank you for your help. I noticed from your talk page that you are interested in improving articles about dogs, and you seem to be knowledgable about them. You are familiar with the article Mixed breed dog. Are you interested in working with us on improving that article? There are several talk page sections that could be responded to, and, needless to say, feel free to edit. Chrisrus (talk) 03:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invite and I'll try to get by some but right now I'm having problems keeping up with the work I need to do. I was asked to help more at the DRN and I'll try to do that some. Thanks again. Jobberone (talk) 04:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The citation we are using for the lead distinguishes crossbreeds, the result of artificial selection, and mongrels ("mixed breeds"), which are not intentially mated looking for a particular intended result. I find in my personal experience that most people do repect this distinction in context; few people call Maltipoos and such "mixed breeds", although some proponents of purebred dogs do. So I undid your shortening of the lead based on the fact that this is what the citation says, but besides that, it seems to be true, and we have another article about crossbreeds and they are outside of the scope of the article about naturally selected mongrels, only. For example, many of the things you improved the article with about, the problems of inbreeding inherent to purebreeding, seem to be also true of the breeding of crossbreed dogs, which are also deliberately back-bred and inbred in order to get the to breed true. I hope you will agree that it's natural to that referent of the article mongrel naturally seems to want to be unbred dogs, only, not artificially selected dogs, but more importantly that's what the citation says. Chrisrus (talk) 06:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, Ok, sorry. Chrisrus (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Invitation to comment at Monty Hall problem RfC[edit]

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This dispute has been going on for over ten years and there have been over 1,300,000 words posted on the article talk page (by comparison, all of the Harry Potter books together total 1,084,170 words). Over the years the dispute has been through multiple noticeboards, mediators, and even the Arbitration Committee without resolving the conflict, so a lot of wisdom is needed here. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Jobberone. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard.
Message added 18:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Mrt3366(Talk?) (New thread?) 18:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied. Mrt3366(Talk?) (New thread?) 05:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no longer interested in volunteering because most of the participants aren't really interested in Wikipedia but being obstructionists, furthering their own petty agendas, and generally being PITAS. Wikipedia needs a better way to deal with things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jobberone (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry to hear that - it can be tough. If you have further thoughts please feel free to get in touch. All the best, Szhang (WMF) (talk) 00:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute Resolution RFC[edit]

Hello.As a member of Wikiproject Dispute Resolution I am just letting you know that there is an RFC discussing changes to dispute resolution on Wikipedia. You can find the RFC on this page. If you have already commented there, please disregard this message. Regards, Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 08:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mind clarifying who you are replying to with your latest comments in the "Defining the problem and your goals" section. It seems pretty unclear to me :). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 12:03, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. TransporterMan. Everytime I bring up the subject of moving dispute resolution to mediation then arbitration he brings up his proposal which I have never even seen. I'm happy to look at it but I really don't care who proposes what and how as long as we move to fix the dispute process. IMO, it will remain mired in bureaucracy and stalemate unless we change the current process. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone although I expected my comments would some as it conflicts with the status quo. I'm not trying to be controversial or adversarial. I also addressed Amadscientist. Best. Jobberone (talk) 18:41, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See User:TransporterMan/Sandbox/3 for TransporterMan's proposal. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have no problem with that and he's spent some time on it. I'm not that concerned with fleshing it out or the format just that there is someone who can divide the baby when necessary. Thanks again. Jobberone (talk) 00:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Editor Assistance Request[edit]

Dear Jobberone - We have had difficulty reaching accommodation with another Wikipedia editor, GrandDrake, and would appreciate any “Editor Assistance” you may be able to provide regarding Wikipedia policy in order to reach one.

Please see the “Talk” page for MPEG LA specifically, the conversation under the section entitled “MPEG-2 License Agreement.” GrandDrake’s criticism is based on secondary sources, which he/she has admitted have some inaccuracies. I have offered factual information from undisputed primary sources with proposed language for the “Criticism” section in order to allow users to draw their own opinions of GrandDrake’s criticism. Although I have made various wording revisions to satisfy him/her, GrandDrake continues to reject the revised language, citing WP:PRIMARY and WP:NOR. I do not consider the sources I want to cite as being “original research” as they are reliable, published sources. While I would agree that the sources I want to cite are “primary sources”, Wikipedia states that “primary sources” can be used to make “…straightforward, descriptive statements of facts…” which is what I have done.

Please let me know if you have any questions about this. Otherwise, I look forward to any assistance that you are able to provide. Thank you. --Oemtom (talk) 20:11 17 June 2013 (UTC)

It is the opinion pieces used as references in the criticism that are being used to advance a position. I only want to present the facts for balance so readers can have the benefit of knowing them and draw their own conclusion. I'll think about possible next steps. Thanks for your help. --Oemtom (talk) 15:58 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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Editor Assistance Request - White Privilege[edit]

Dear Jobberone

I am having difficulty with a number of editors on adding criticism to the "White Privilege" page. This situation is complicated.

I went down the route of an RfC on the idea of creating a Critique section. This was rejected and I accept this. However, a number of editors are now claiming that, in the process of rejecting the Critique section, all the criticisms are also rejected. This I do not accept as the criticism have good RS. These editors refuse to engage with a discussion on the RS and revert my edits. I am a bit lost as what to do next, and I need help with resolving this dispute.

You can find reference to the talk page here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_privilege#White_Privilege_as_ad_hominem_attack and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_privilege/Archive_11#RfC_should_this_article_contain_a_"Critique_section".

Im sorry the debate is so long, and hope you can help me identify the best way to resolve this. Thank you.Keith Johnston (talk) 10:35, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jobberone, thank you for your previous intervention. I note that you have previously commented on the White Privilege page. There are ongoing discussions on this page which are connected to previous issues you have raised. You may find it interesting to review and contribute to this ongoing debate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_privilege#Wikipedia_-_what_the_hell_is_going_on_? Keith Johnston (talk) 11:19, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Not active. Very ill having surgery two weeks but thx for asking. Jobberone (talk) 10:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)Jobberone[reply]

helping with adding material that is deleted by unresponsive editor[edit]

Dear Jobberone, I had posted requesting help but then saw your previous post saying that you were going in for surgery. I hope that you are doing better soon! Best, Murray Daw 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Murraydaw (talk • contribs) 19:21, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply] 

    Not until next Thursday.  Jobberone (talk) 02:56, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Research Project[edit]

Hi Jobberone

I'm an anthropology student doing an online research project on wikipedians and their motivations and ideals for writing and editing wikipedia pages. I was wondering if you would be interested in answering a few questions I have - sort of like a small online interview.

Best Karoline Husbond (Student at University of Texas Austin) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Karohusb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karohusb (talk • contribs) 21:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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