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Hello, John Johnstone Smith, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field with your edits. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! XLinkBot (talk) 01:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Nomination of Clivedon Road Highams Park London for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Clivedon Road Highams Park London is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clivedon Road Highams Park London until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TheLongTone (talk) 17:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

talk:Betamax[edit]

Hi again. I wanted to let you know that I undid your deletions of others' text at talk:Betamax. Please review the talk page guidelines at WP:TALK: With rare exceptions, such as fixing formatting errors, you are never supposed to delete (or modify, for that matter) talk page comments made by other editors. (And the exceptions allowing deletion of others' text should usually be handled by admins.)

Even modifying your own comments is considered controversial. You should most definitely not change or delete comments of yours to which replies have appeared. If you made a comment and would later like to retract it, do not simply delete the text. Instead, please use the <s>...</s> markup, which produces strikeout text. To add to what you have already written, simply add another paragraph, at the bottom of the existing section, with the first line preceded by one more leading colons (:) than the previous writer's. With rare exceptions, a talk page section should read from top to bottom in the order in which the material was added.

Also, please be aware that it is generally unnecessary (and quite uncommon) on Wikipedia to use HTML markup such as <br />. On all types of pages here, just press "enter" twice (i.e. insert two newlines) to start a new paragraph. Within article text, a single newline has no effect on the layout (WP automatically fills the lines), so if you really want a line break without a paragraph skip, you could use <br />.... but a line break without a paragraph skip is not appropriate for most text in Wikipedia articles. (Exceptions can exist in places like cells in tables.)

On talk pages, a single newline will be honored, causing the next text to appear at the beginning of a line but without an inter-paragraph space... again, though, this is not something for which there should often be a need in prose.

This is a minor quibble and use of <br /> is actually supported by WP's "Manual of Style" (WP:MOS for the main page; this specific detail is at WP:LINEBREAK). It's just that there should usually be no reason to use it, because prose just isn't supposed to be formatted that way.

Oh, one other thing that I did: I moved your "thanks" to the end of the section. All new text in a section should go to the end of the section. If you will edit the section you will see how I used the leading colon (:) to cause indentation. This sets your reply off from the material to which it is a reply.

Finally, please let me state that as you are a new editor it is not unexpected that you will make a few mistakes. No one is counting them! I hope you do not find the formatting corrections I have made annoying; they are intended to format the page into normal WP format so that others can participate in the discussion without trying to figure out who said what and in what order. Similarly, the information above is not intended as a rebuke, but simply to help you make your use of talk pages more effective. Jeh (talk) 09:35, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks i am getting the jist and lurning from the mistakes you corrected.John Johnstone Smith (talk) 10:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Your talk page[edit]

After saving my previous edit I noticed that the entire page was now within the box created by the "Welcome" template. Earlier you deleted two notifications from this page and the last line of the "Welcome" template, so that template was not terminated. I restored it. This also left the last paragraph of the deletion discussion notification without its section head or its first paragraph, so I restored those as well. This seemed better than either leaving the partial section as it was, or presuming that you wanted the whole thing deleted. Per WP:TALK you are free to delete material from your own talk page, particularly after a discussion is finished, although archiving is preferred. Please do be aware that you are presumed to have read any notifications to your talk page that you delete.

Speedy deletion nomination of Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London[edit]

Hello John Johnstone Smith,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. BiH (talk) 11:05, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Famous Old Buildings[edit]

Hello John Johnstone Smith,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Famous Old Buildings for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Nechlison (talk) 12:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Ways to improve Famous Old Buildings[edit]

Hi, I'm Nechlison. John Johnstone Smith, thanks for creating Famous Old Buildings!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hello! I've reviewed your article, try to solve the issues mentioned in your tagged article.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Nechlison (talk) 12:48, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014[edit]

Information icon Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. Randor1980 (talkcontributions) 12:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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  • used on latter camcorder by Ikegami with letters begining "HL" (Betamaxcam) 1980's and 1990s) before Ikegami stoped making Betacam camcorders for DV-Cam instead in the late 1990s, Ampex kept
  • same time on the consumer market MiniDv, Video8mm, full size VHS, and VHSC (CompactVideoHomeSystem)) with 3 inch LCD's on the full size VHS camcorders. In the 1960s 8mm cini was updated to Super8(the

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  • E-30, E-60, (E-120 VHS-1 1976), E-180 minute cassette tapes with up to three hours=(VHS-2 1977)) recording time, a thinner 4 hour length (E240 tape VHS-3 1981) soon followed (E-400 VHS-5 last
  • on World Wide Standard on consumer video recorders (VHS) Was 8hrs on PAL colour configuration)and 5hs-46mins on NTSC color configuration) The total recording legnth on The World Wide Standard On Professional Broadcasting (Betamax was 3hrs 35mins on PAL colour configuration, and 5hrs on NTSC color configuration

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Please note that underscores are not needed in hyperlinks.--Charles (talk) 14:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London[edit]

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The article Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Primary schools are rarely notable and this one shows no signs of notability.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

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Your contributed article, Famous Old Buildings[edit]

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Famous Old Buildings. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – History of architecture. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at History of architecture – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Talk:Betamax. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ☾Loriendrew☽ (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Handsworth Primary School in Waltham Forest London is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TheLongTone (talk) 11:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Betamax Video cameras[edit]

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Betamax Video cameras requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Your contributed article, Betamax Video cameras[edit]

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Betamax Video cameras. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Camcorder. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Camcorder – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. XXX antiuser eh? 03:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC) I think one page is not enough about camcorders and all formatts should be coverd on individual wikipedia pages like VHSC, FULL SIZE VHS, micro mv, and DVD, and any other formatts that existed.John Johnstone Smith (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Images at Leicester railway station[edit]

Hi, you appear to be attempting to restore images to Leicester railway station by undoing the edits of CommonsDelinker (talk · contribs). This is not possible, because the images have been deleted from the system. I believe that they have been deleted because you have not been addressing the problems notified to you at commons:User talk:John Johnstone Smith. Many of these notices concern the copyright and licensing of the various images that you have uploaded; both Wikipedia and Commons take a very dim view of persistent disregard for copyright. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:28, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Well i am afraid that wiki commons editor is no better himself as he deleated all my photos i uploaded on every page i had and most was my own all because of one or two expired ebay it listings photos i put on a page all the rest was mine and if they was not a gave the website hhtp to the commons i got the photos from ebay expired listing photos are free because the photo disapears over time from ebay over time, this was unfair to "vandalised" all my work and i am not ruling out it was because i made a betamax video camera page that was deleated and just two minutes before the page disopeared, all my photos in my wiki pages made a mysterious disopearence and to uncanny, that is what it looks like to me unless you can convince me otherwiseJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 12:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
You seem to have a very poor understanding of what constitutes "ownership" and "copyright". Whether the ebay listing has expired or not is immaterial: the copyright of photographs (whether found on the internet or not) rests with the photographer, unless they have explicitly waived their rights, and does not "expire" when the item depicted is no longer for sale. Read what eBay USA Copyright Basics and eBay UK Copyright Basics have to say about copyright; also the eBay USA Images and text policy and eBay UK Picture policy. Making a copy of somebody else's image and uploading it to either Wikipedia or Commons does not transfer ownership to you, and nor does it give you the right to misrepresent either the copyright or licensing of the image. Please read Wikipedia:Copyright violations and Wikipedia:Image use policy very carefully and heed the advice of these documents. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Moved page[edit]

I moved the page to User:John Johnstone Smith/Betamax Video cameras. The problem here is that the other users are right: you will have to show that this specific type of camcorder is notable enough for its own entry apart from the main camcorder article. You can say that it is notable, but ultimately this all boils down to coverage in reliable sources such as reviews about the camcorder, articles in places such as newspapers, and coverage in books. I'm sure that this exists, but we can't just say that it exists and that the product is obviously notable because it exists. You have to justify content forks by way of coverage in RS. Now I've moved this to your userspace, so you will have a chance to flesh this out and look for sourcing. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Ok But how can i get advice on the Betamax video camera page(camcorders) because there are lots of other camcorder formats that have there own page apart from the page entitled "Camcorders" one third of video cameras sold on the consumer markert from 1980-1885 and it maybe be a good idea to have a page dedicated to the beta camera format.

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Leicester station taken from the London road 1856 standing on Station Street thought to be leicsters oldest photograph published.jpg[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Leicester station taken from the London road 1856 standing on Station Street thought to be leicsters oldest photograph published.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

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A tag has been placed on File:Leicester station taken from the London road 1856 standing on Station Street thought to be leicsters oldest photograph published.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Redrose64 (talk) 10:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Brand new entrance for Leicester in 1890 the entrance relocated fron Station street at the side to now be erected on London road bridge.jpg[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Brand new entrance for Leicester in 1890 the entrance relocated fron Station street at the side to now be erected on London road bridge.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Redrose64 (talk) 11:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Brand new entrance for Leicester in 1890 the entrance relocated fron Station street at the side to now be erected on London road bridge.jpg[edit]

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Recent video related edits[edit]

I have yet to figure out your entire agenda here. I've actually been intrigued by some of your summations, your rant on the talk page of Format Wars makes you sound deranged. Problem 1, almost everything you have posted is unsourced. Please try to find sources that support what you say, or your contributions to wikipedia will get reverted and removed. I'm not even saying I will do it, that's just the wikipedia way, particularly when you are taking a stance contrary to the norm. Problem 2 is your english. on Camcorder you used the wrong form of their (you spelled it "there"), and misspelled committee (you wrote "commity"). This poor use of English reflects also on the content you contribute. It makes you look uneducated. Rather than correcting it, I have left those edits in tact so others can more clearly see your work. I think you might actually have something positive to say here, but you have to be more precise. And you need to find other, informed sources to back you up. Original Research is not allowed on wikipedia. So take the suggestion, clean up your act before you post it on the worldwide stage. Trackinfo (talk) 07:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice but contary to the norm is only your opinion as any body could put a page on wikipedia and make out it isthe norm, indeed is the norm to go on rumours that one herd about the betamax in the early 80's but it is the norm to correct them also and that page should be removed because they state no fact in the way of legislation taken against Sony , any court cases that shows Sony getting fined for how they suposebly caused the Betamax to get a bad reputation it seems to have got,. we need facts and i am entitled to my opinion and "the page should go" as it serves no purpose but to give fulse information without the facts i have stated that need to be pressented on that page "they pressent no evidence" that is all i am pointing out please keep a open mind.John Johnstone Smith (talk) 07:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Opinion is exactly the issue. Wikipedia is not a place to post your opinion. Yeah, it works its way into what we write, especially if you are an expert in your field, as you portray yourself. But you need to support your opinion with facts and opinions from others. That is what is called sourcing. Again, I am laying back and letting you roll for now, but please go find supporting documentation. Someone else is likely to come along an wipe out everything you have written and I've watched other people go through a declining cycle fighting to keep unsourced material. Trackinfo (talk) 09:26, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
To add support to Trackinfo's position: The problem, John, is not that other people are not keeping "an open mind." The problem is that you are making stuff up out of your own mind. Wikipedia is just not the place to record your own opinions and your own (wrong) versions of past events. Not even on talk pages. Jeh (talk) 11:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I looked at the page "video Tape format war" and it is a disgrace the page should not be there it relies on non fact about a war inside peoples heads that has no place on a encyclopedia the talk page suggests that betamax lost because they "distrobuted illegal porn film" what rubbish for a encylopedia i am not giving my own opinion but the facts and this main stream slader that brain washes you, and all "should stop" there is nothing wrong with the betamax, and i am rallying suport with your editors to remove that page, and the "slander about the betamax" on the Betamax page as well the lines on the page that say" "reasons betamax lost to vhs" because it offends betamax owners, and we want it off our encyclopedia, there was hundereds of thousands of betamax buyers in britain 18 million world wide, and we are not putting up with this slander that ruins the machines image, how would you like it of i slanderd your item, please stop this, we have got rights as Betamax-owner and we will take our case even to "Wikipedia" to get this rubbish removed . PLEASE KEEP THE CONSUMER IN MIND PLEASE it does not matter what you herd about the betamax in a 1980s rumor you should have some respect for other peoples feelings.John Johnstone Smith (talk) 11:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Betamax HDCAM-SR CAMCORDER.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Orphaned non-free image File:Leicester station Taken from the London road 1856.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading File:Leicester station Taken from the London road 1856.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Updates on Camcorder[edit]

Your recent spate of updates to the Camcorder article expand the history section beyond what is really necessary. The information was largely redundant with the information that already existed, but in a much less well-organized and well-written fashion. I have reverted your changes. Please take the matter up on Talk:Camcorder if you feel there are changes that must be made. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:43, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Mentoring?[edit]

John, you have had an unusually rough time in your first few weeks on Wikipedia, culminating in your above statement that you are giving up and leaving Wikipedia.

I wonder if you would consider accepting "mentorship" from someone? There is a page: Wikipedia:Mentorship that describes the program. From the first few lines:

"Mentorship is an arrangement in which one user assists another user, the protégé. Depending on the nature of the mentorship agreement, the mentor may give the protégé advice on more effective editing habits and help the protégé resolve disputes. The purpose of mentorship is to help the protégé adjust to Wikipedian site processes and standards."

I think this has a strong possibility of improving your experience here (and others' experience with you). To find a mentor, just place this at the bottom of your user page (not your user talk page, which is where we are right now):

{{subst:dated adoptme}}

Or, you could look at the "adopters' area" to look for those who are actively seeking adoptees.

Hope this helps! Jeh (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

It does thank you for your adviceJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 07:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Possibly unfree File:CC4392 RCA full size VHS.jpg[edit]

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Possibly unfree File:Kodak model B bedside Sony Betamax portable video camera unit SLO 340.tif[edit]

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Possibly unfree File:Kodavision 2400 series first edition of Video-8mm camcorder Febuary 1984 with the first edition model 20 1932 also launched by Kodak and also in colour.jpg[edit]

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I thought it had been deleated because a editor came along and removed all the articals i wrote on the "camcorder" page as for the photos copyright it was one i made myself from two photos from a expired ebay listing these photos are designed to fade and deleate over time with age on expired ebay listings, and ebay photographs are not protected by copyright. they are share and share alike. but like i said unless there is some way to put the articals back on the "camcorder " main wiki page i guess it is going to be deleated any way. is the editor that deleated the articals decission final should i mke a appeal? thanks
This has been explained to you before, but - you are seriously mistaken about ebay photographs. Wikipedia has to assume that anything you find anywhere on the web is protected by copyright unless the creator has explicitly stated that it's in the public domain. Which means that you can't just copy it and use it here. It is true that many people find images on the web and use them in ebay listings. That is very often a violation of the creator's copyright. ebay does not enforce this unless the copyright holder finds out about it and asks them to take an image down. Wikipedia's standards are more strict. Jeh (talk) 07:51, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014[edit]

Information icon Please stop using talk pages such as talk:betamax for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article; not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See here for more information. Thank you. Besides the fact that you are posting voluminous material that is not about improving the article (it is rather about promoting your own unique points of view), you are not supposed to go back and make significant changes to what you've already written - any new text you add to a talk page should be at the bottom of an existing section. If you think that anything you are writing is not final, you could post it to your own "sandbox" page, edit it as you like, and then, when you are finished with it, post it to a talk page.

As it is you have seriously mangled the flow of posts and replies to that page. You also have posted lengthy material to a section that had last been updated almost ten years ago and which should have been archived. Please DO NOT go back in and try to fix it, however.

This sort of thing is why I think mentoring would be helpful to you. Please consider finding a Wikipedia mentor, by means I already mentioned. Thank you. Jeh (talk) 08:00, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Betamax c7.jpeg[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:CC4392 RCA full size VHS.jpg[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Sony dcm m1 dvd camcorder with hitachi mv dz 100.tif[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Kodak model B bedside Sony Betamax portable video camera unit SLO 340.tif[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Sony digital8.tif[edit]

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Replaceable fair use File:Betamax HDCAM-SR CAMCORDER.jpg[edit]

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File permission problem with File:Digital camcorders hitachi and sharp.jpg[edit]

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File permission problem with File:First single one piece cameras Betamovie Toshiba.jpg[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Clivedon Road.tif[edit]

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Photos[edit]

If you ever upload any photos which are not copyright violations, please note: Creative Commons-licensed and PD images go on the Commons. There is no need to put the entire story in the image name, eg. "Leicester Station entrance 1890" rather than "Brand new entrance for Leicester in 1890 the entrance relocated fron Station street at the side to now be erected on London road bridge", the chat goes in the image description. Photos should be JPGs rather than TIFs or PNGs. Why on earth did you replace the Leicester station images with TIFs? And whilst it would be polite to quote the immediate source you used for these two images, I am sure you would be safe applying a {{pd-old}} tag. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC) there is no way i could put the description on the page without it being removed so it will have to remain in the description box and as for putting a sourse to the photos i did "john gough"

January 2014: Leicester railway station[edit]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did to Leicester railway station, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC) hI Redrose64 thanks for the message i left a article on talk: Leicester station page about this if this is any help, and it is common knowledge that the overhaul of the station took place with several building projects in between the years 1899 and 1894, and not just rebuilt in 1894 as the page has been written this needs correcting and if you have removed the article i made, i have copied and pasted a copy on talk of the article i revised from the original work and could you put it back please.John Johnstone Smith (talk) 15:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Talk page comments[edit]

On Talk:Leicester railway station, you wrote:

It is very important to keep a accurate record of the stations history and must be totally correct by 2015 because this is the stations 175th anniversary. Please do not edit the page if you are just in it to graffiti your name we need facts and removing correct data because "you wrote the article first does not give you licence to be incorrect for your own designer sake.PLEASE BE KIND TO THIS PAGE

Please understand that Wikipedia operates on a principle that there is no deadline by which articles must be complete, and that they are under a constant state of improvement. The fact that this station celebrates a milestone in 2015 is of relatively minor importance. It is extremely unlikely that the article will be "done" by then, as it will continue to undergo improvements as long as there is a Wikipedia to edit.

Also, please assume good faith on the part of other editors. Changes that you have made have been undone because there does not appear to be any reliable source to verify the changes you have made. Simply saying, "I know this to be true, and I know that the article is wrong so I must fix it" is insufficient. You must be able to prove that your changes are true and address errors in the article. The reversion of your edits is a good faith effort on the part of others to assure that Wikipedia remains verifiable as much as possible. Given the changes you are proposing, you must have sources for this knowledge. It is doubtful that you come by the knowledge of the history of this station through the end of the nineteenth century first-hand, so you must have read about that somewhere. Cite the source from which you read the information, and the changes will likely be allowed. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes i am just looking for reference to the claims now it may take a few days i use to have a old photo of the Swain Street railway bridge being rebuilt in 1893 so i will carry on looking thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Johnstone Smith (talkcontribs)

A photo alone will no be sufficient verification because there is not way to prove when the photo was taken. You will need a published article or book documenting the construction. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

User:John Dowsett[edit]

Hi John, if User:John Dowsett is a previous account of yours would you mind stating that on your user page? You can use {{user previous account}} to make the note. Thanks, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 13:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John Dowsett. Thank you. Jeh (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


No i am not the user john DawsettJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 00:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

February 2014[edit]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did to Hale End, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Charles (talk) 21:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks i had trouble with reference but when i tried to put the reference as indicated between the two reference marks nothing happened is it ok to paste the link or should it be typed in manually between the reff gaps this might be why the reference does not show upJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 00:51, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
It should have shown up in the "References" section in the article. In any case, WP is not an almanac; see WP:NOT, particularly the part that says "not a collection of indiscriminate information". We don't list sunrise, sunset, etc., times in the article for London. Why would we list them for Hale End? (And will you PLEASE learn to properly format talk page entries?) Jeh (talk) 03:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John Dowsett[edit]

The outcome of the above linked sock puppetry investigation was that this account is a new account of User:John Dowsett. As such I have left a message in the block log of this account that they are the same user. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 10:51, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as you did at Talk:Betamax/Archive 1, you may be blocked from editing.
*sigh* Here we go again, John. Your edits in the areas of video recorders continue to not be about improving the article, but rather about espousing your own opinions - opinions which are completely unsupported by any citation of facts, only by your own "reasoning"; in fact, they are refuted by easily-found histories of events, many of which are cited in the articles. Your opinions (even if they are well-founded) belong on your own blog, not on Wikipedia: Not in articles, not in talk pages, not on your own user pages. (Perhaps you should send an article to one of the home theater enthusiast web sites, like AVSforum, and see if they'll host it.)

In addition, you have edited a talk archive page. Do not edit archive pages. Did you miss the warning at the top of that page that said "do not edit this page"? That page is an archive of past discussion.

Your editing an archive page is an example of a more general problem: Your ongoing refusal or inability to get the point, to learn what is and is not acceptable on WP -- along with your apparent inability to write anything but illogical, unsupported, impossible-to-follow, stream-of-consciousness gibberish, in "text walls" hundreds of words long -- is wasting other editors' time and as such is disruptive. Please stop. Jeh (talk) 03:36, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Talk:Betamax/Archive 1. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Please do not edit archive pages. Jeh (talk) 02:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

May 2014[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as you did at Talk:Betamax/Archive 1, you may be blocked from editing. This refers to your repeated edits of a talk archive page. In addition to your continued use of a talk page as a forum for your personal opinions, something that is prohibited by WP:TALK, you have been editing a talk archive page. Such pages are supposed to be a record of past, closed discussions. You are not allowed to edit them, ever. I have therefore reverted your edits and will continue to do so. Jeh (talk) 07:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Talk:Betamax/Archive 1. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use talk pages for inappropriate discussions, as you did at Talk:List of lost television broadcasts. Jeh (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing, because it is here that you here not to contribute to the encyclopaedia in accordance with Wikipedia's polices and guidelines, but rather to use Wikipedia to promote and publicise your views, and because you either can't or won't stop editing in ways that are highly disruptive, and which waste enormous amounts of time for other editors who could be doing more constructive work. The details of what is wrong with your editing are documented on this page and in the history of User talk:John Dowsett. If you believe there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)