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Sinebot bug?

Observed the following behavior from Sinebot, which appears to be a bug:

  • User:67.127.56.46 made two edits to Talk:Furry fandom within about a minute of each other, [1] and [2].
  • Sinebot signed the first but then erased the first sig when it signed the second. It looks as if Sinebot hadn't saved the first sig yet when it loaded the page to add the second sig, and didn't notice that it had gotten into an edit conflict with itself when it saved the second.

Hope this helps. --mwalimu59 (talk) 17:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Signing for vandals

Could you put a clause in SineBot so it doesn't sign for people who put things like this [3]. It makes it harder to revert talk page vandalism when it signs for vandals. Whispering 05:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

KOSOVO

hi why u admins dont bring back kosovo flag and coat of arms

Facts are facts there should be no discussion about FACTS

check KOSOVO CIA factbook —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lontech (talkcontribs) 01:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

FAQ row

Wrote a new template, {{FAQ row2}}, its used on Talk:Global warming, uses the same parameters as {{FAQ row}}, so they're compatible. What do you think about merging the two? ChyranandChloe (talk) 04:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Computers Write What Is Read

Slakr, I work on inputting soft data into our hardware to work on our computer here at home. Getting our computer to write what is read as an AI is done so that it can come up with the correct conclusion. These correct conclusions should be easier to accept. There is such an intense focus in creating these machines that it is easy to drop the concept of AI and rely instead on sinebot. No sine waves here, Slakr! LAMMERGRIFFIN (talk) 12:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Aitias

As you participated in the first RFC, I am informing you there is a second RFC on Aitias currently open. Majorly talk 16:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Ease up there, quick-draw

Goodness me SineBot but you are fast! I forgot to sign an edit, realized my mistake the instant after I pressed "save page," went right back to sign the page and got some error message about an edit conflict and needing to merge and I don't even OWN a car! -- how discombobulating! LOL. Keep up the good work. But a couple minutes grace time to append a forgotten signature would be nice. Not forgotten this time... Mtiffany71 (talk) 02:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

About SineBot comments

Hi, Slakr. I do use signature button but SineBot keeps to put "Preceding unsigned comment added by" right after my signature and sending me reminders (Pls use sign button). Something is outa order? Thank you.--Numulunj pilgae 09:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Numulunj pilgae (talkcontribs)

The same is true with me, Slakr. I always use the fourt tides and this sinebot and keeps on putting "Preceding unsigned comment added by" and posting reminders on my talk page. In fact, I predict that it is going to happen here again. — Shannon Rose 16:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shannon Rose (talkcontribs)
I think I've discovered why Sinebot doesn't recognize your signature. It's because it isn't a real signature in the Wikipedia sense:
  • <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" color="blue" size="5">Shannon Rose</font>
It doesn't contain a link to your userpage. Here's how it should look (usually a talk page link is included):
You need to change your sig under your preferences at the top of the page. If you check the box and include that code, you will get a nice, customized sig. If you uncheck the box, you'll get a nice default sig. Note that the links will not work on their "own" pages. They will work elsewhere. I hope that will solve your problem, because Sinebot is working just fine, but is working overtime because of your faulty sig. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Not Running?

Any particular reason that ProcseeBot has been down for 3 weeks?—Kww(talk) 18:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

ANI discussion regarding ProcseeBot

Please see this thread. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As Delicious has pointed out, ProcseeBot doesn't leave block templates, which tends to be at odds with encouraged practice. Even if I don't follow that practice constantly, it is probably a good idea for a bot to do so. Any chance that could be added? – Luna Santin (talk) 08:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

SineBot on Wikinews

Hi. It seems that n:User:SineBot has died again. Last edit was July 27. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 03:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


SineBot less than helpful

So the bot finds I forgot signing somewhere somehow. Fair enough. It then tells me - but I can´t seem to find any reference to the place I forgot it. Suggesstion - it would be nice if Sinebot actually gave you a hint where it ... ahem ... improved your comments, wouldn't it? Wefa (talk) 23:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Why does four tildes not always work?

I notice my signings mostly don't turn up, but sometimes they do. -- 14:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob G Weemhoff (talkcontribs)

Open proxies

I sent you an email regarding your open proxy blocking bot. Regards, NW (Talk) 22:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Hubcaps.com

I don't work for the site, i'm barely a fan, i just thought that it would turn into a possibly high veiwed page. It certaily is not a spam, it's not trying to get you to go to the site or anything, it's like the wikipedian YouTube page, it has the same information, and isn't trying to encourage anyone to go there. Please re-think the deletion of Hubcaps.com.

  -Thank you and sincerely, Crowz RSA

—Preceding unsigned comment added by CrowzRSA (talkcontribs) 16:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Youssef Chahine and Omar Sharif.

Hello, I really need help and I will really appreciate it if you can help me. The following two articles, Youssef Chahine and Omar Sharif had some information missing from them and I added the information regarding their countries of origin (Egyptian born but Lebanese Christians by origin) , I also used reliable sources. And I added a wikiproject tag on them as well. And there is a user on both of these articles who keeps undoing my changes. What can I do although I am using reliable sources? I am really feeling harassed! I would really appreciate your help thanks :):) Lebanese bebe (talk) 20:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

80.254.146.36

With respect to your block of 80.254.146.36 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log):

January 26, 2009, Slakr (talk | contribs | block) blocked 80.254.146.36 (talk) (expires on January 26, 2011 at 08:01, account creation blocked) (Template:blocked proxy )

The users of this ip are on unblock-en-l asking for an unblock. Could you confirm that this ip remains an open proxy and needs to continue to be blocked. (I am supposed to know about this too, but could use some tips on how to answer this question). Fred Talk 13:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Whois shows this ip and all of 80.254.144.0/22 belongs to scansafe.com, which filters traffic through a cloud. So, it is always a portal, but is it an open one? Fred Talk 17:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

By the way, Interesting ports on 195.212.12.119: PORT STATE SERVICE 8080/tcp closed http-proxy Fred Talk 17:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

24.249.102.158

19:52, March 20, 2009, ProcseeBot (talk | contribs | block) blocked 24.249.102.158 (talk) (expires on March 20, 2010 at 19:52, account creation blocked) (

The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open or anonymizing proxy, such as a VPN service. To prevent abuse, these proxies may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

If you are using an open proxy or VPN service, you will need to disable it or turn it off in order to edit Wikipedia.

If you believe you are not using an anonymizing proxy, the most likely cause is that another customer using your IP address who was previously assigned this IP address was running an open proxy. You may appeal this block by adding the following text on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is _______. Place any further information here. ~~~~}}. You must fill in the blank with your IP address for this block to be investigated. Your IP address can be determined here. Alternatively, if you wish to keep your IP address private you can use the Unblock Ticket Request System.

More rarely, your network equipment or that of your service provider may be misconfigured or compromised by malicious software (such as a virus). For more information, see the WikiProject on Open Proxies.

Administrators: The IP block exemption user right should only be applied to allow users to edit using an open or anonymizing proxies in exceptional circumstances, and they should usually be directed to the functionaries team via email. If you intend to give the IPBE user right, a CheckUser needs to take a look at the account. This can be requested most easily at SPI Quick Checkuser Requests. Unblocking an IP or IP range with this template is highly discouraged without at least contacting the blocking administrator.

66.210.188.136:80 ) What is the meaning of 66.210.188.136:80 with respect to the blocked address? Fred Talk 20:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

212.22.180.2

This is the IP address of a proxy operated by an ISP in Kenya. It is not (or should not be!) an open proxy. I access it from 212.22.182.82 (fixed IP, in fact a premises NAT box).

What is going on? It shouldn't have triggered anything (and hasn't previously over several years). Robert Ullmann (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I have written an interesting article anout my opinions on war and pacifism, called the work of a genius, click here for more infomormation Woodnot (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC).

Award

The Wikipedia Bot Builder Award
Your bot SineBot takes a lot of unnecessary detective work out of responding to somebody's comments. For that gift to the world, I award you the Bot Builder Award for your outstanding work on SineBot! Don't worry, I'll sign my posts! Ojay123 (TalkE-MailContribsSandbox) 00:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot signed an undo on Jimbo's userpage

Hi Slakr. Seems to be a bug, since I don't think this [[4]] was anything other than use of the "undo" button. Not a big deal, but you might want to take a look at it. Regards, AKAF (talk) 11:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Other Venues

Hey there! SineBot is an invaluable tool on Wikipedia, and has helped out many a user, including myself. As a user of Wikia, as well as Wikipedia, I can't help but notice the numerous times that SineBot could be helping out users on the Wikia I am quite fond of, Dragon Ball Wiki. Is there any chance that you would be willing to extend the SineBot mechanism to this Wikia? Or if this is too much work, then is there a way we can duplicate its services ourselves? Thanks in advance. --Darktower 12345 05:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sinbot signing signed comments

Hi Slakr,

Sinbot signed my signed comment on this page as well as in the Sandbox and I don't understand why. Can you please explain on my talk page? --Methylene Blue 21:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Here is the diff --Methylene Blue 22:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

This is because you do not have a link to your user and/or user talk page as mandated by the WP:SIG#Internal links guideline. –xenotalk 17:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Slakr. You have new messages at Abutorsam007's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Your 3RR helper tool

Hello Slakr. Your tool at http://toolserver.org/~slakr/3rr.php has been immortalized by appearing in the header at WP:AN3, and I notice that some people do use it. It occurs to me that it might be expanded slightly (or another tool might be based on its behavior) so as to check some of the input data. This might reduce the incidence of reports that don't meet the criteria. Can you let me know if the source is available? If it's in PHP I'd probably choose something else, but would be interested to see how it works. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice tool! Heh, anyhow is there a way to change a couple settings so that the report it leaves is inline with this example? Cheers, Nja247 10:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot down?

I posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) as well. Related to new software?--SPhilbrickT 21:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I even did a search for sinebot, but just now noticed the message that all bots are down.--SPhilbrickT 21:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I have no idea what's going on. Someone must have changed something with the API or something. So, until I get a chance to figure it out, it stays broken. I don't have time to play pin-the-tail-on-the-bug. --slakrtalk / 20:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Marriage privatization

Hi. Just wondering, why did you add the "synthesis" tag to Marriage privatization? Was it something specific, or just a hunch? How do these tags get removed, and who gets to do so?Ragazz (talk) 01:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Because at the time I added the tag, the article appeared to be an original synthesis used to summate to a neologism. That is, someone pulled together a bunch of sources from a bunch of people that vaguely hint at what the article defines as "marriage privatization." If you were to strip it to its core, it reads like a research paper or essay. The intro, alone, is a dead giveaway. Check out some of the comments on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marriage_Privatization_Model, a similar article that was deleted for the same reason. You're allowed to remove the tag if you believe it's wrong and/or you feel you are able to fix the problems it alludes to. --slakrtalk / 01:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the article is supported by the sources, from what I can tell, although there may be some (unintentional?) POV and subtle synthesis. The lead seems to be the worst of it, I will try to help. All in all, it's an informative article and does not seem to be mis-representing sources from my brief look into it. Thanks.Ragazz (talk) 02:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Signatures

Hey. The Sinebot gave me a message saying that I need to sing my posts with the 4 tides. I do that but it still keeps signing my talk pages. Why? If there is something i missed on my sig, let me know :) Nicolizzio 11:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicolizzio (talkcontribs)

Open up preferences, untick the raw sig setting and save. --slakrtalk / 01:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

3RR

Is a preemptive block for 3RR valid to do? It appears that way on WP:3RR. What are the requirements? Admin's discretion? CTJF83 chat 22:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Pre-emptive block for the three revert rule? The closest thing I can think of is a block for general edit warring. Keep in mind that the 3RR is simply a stricter version of the edit warring policy, and it doesn't bestow any sort of inherent right upon someone to make three reverts to a page in 24 hours (with exception for vandalism, reverting banned users, etc).
If someone's had a history of edit warring, they don't need to violate the three-revert rule in order to be blocked for edit warring. That is, if they've already edit warred badly enough in the past, then continued edit warring is weighted more heavily—even if they don't violate the 3RR. It's presumed that an editor should know better than to edit war once they've been repeatedly been warned about and/or blocked for it. :P
--slakrtalk / 01:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, so any user can be blocked, even though they haven't violated 3RR, for edit waring? Opps....CTJF83 chat 07:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
It very much depends on the situation, but yes. --slakrtalk / 21:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hmm... an off-the-top-of-my-head example. A few people frequently edit a certain article. One editor, John, every day or every few days will make an edit on that article that is repeatedly reverted by multiple people. John refuses to let himself be reverted, but is careful not to violate the three revert rule. John might still be blocked for edit warring if sufficiently warned. --slakrtalk / 21:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok, that makes sense CTJF83 chat 21:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Mark Levin radio talk show host

Greetings,

Where is the "Controversies & Criticism" sections for Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, and so many other non conservatives listed at on each individual page as I can not locate them. If it isn't possible to view these missing "Controversies & Criticism" section blocks for others in a political limelight, I sense that somehow persons such as Mark Levin and other "conservatives" for instance have been unfairly singled out due to their political beliefs which is a violation under The United States Constitution.

I would hope that after your perusal of the above note, that this "Controversies & Criticism" section either be added to ALL other persons listed here in Wikipedia or removed from those who's beliefs are NOT consistent but rather contrary with liberal beliefs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P14u2nv 2 (talkcontribs) 01:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I know nothing about the subject of the article and don't really care to. However, since there was an edit war in progress between several editors, I protected it temporarily in whatever form it was in. Please consider voicing your concerns on the article's talk page. --slakrtalk / 21:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Admin help please

Hi there, I see you involved in resolving edit warring - and all I really am wanting to know is how did I simply get an admin to do an assessment - before it turns into an edit war? If two editors are both believing they are correct? Is there a special tag/"help me" page? Or does war have to break out first! Eight88 (talk) 07:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Check out the methods for dispute resolution. That basically outlines the right ways to handle disputes. If a disagreement is simply between two editors, third opinion. If it's broader in scope, consider informal mediation, requests for comment, or the official mediation committee. --slakrtalk / 21:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.112.170 (talk) 01:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Why Can't I Sign Pages?

My signature box is checked in my preferences. I always type four tildes (Doc9871 08:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)). Yet, SineBot just loves to put its John Hancock on my entries for me and tell me they're unsigned. My signatures match on the preferences page, and as I said, I always type the 4 tildes, to no avail. What gives? Am I missing a pair of parenthesis, a bracket, a quotation mark.... anything? Hope you can help me out here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc9871 (talkcontribs)

Uncheck the box labeled "Sign my name exactly as shown." --slakrtalk / 01:32, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok... here goes... Doc9871 (talk) 06:44, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

So I'm leaving and just for your info . . .

the other user wasn't me. They were a friend I asked to "look" at the article , I had no idea they were going to revert it. Thanks.Vanisheduser5965 (talk) 16:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Getting a friend to edit for you is what is called meatpuppetry. It's treated just like as if you had done the edits yourself. --slakrtalk / 02:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Bugger

I left a response at my talk page also, but just to reiterate - it's never good form to overturn an admin's action without discussion. Was an unintentional oversight on my part and my apologies. :-) Manning (talk) 02:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:IPvandal

I have no strong preference on which is used, but I noticed that your edit summary states "change whois link to toolserver (old one subscriber-only now)" ... but I'm still able to use the old one, no problem - and I'm not a subscriber. Just curious where the "subscriber-only" info originates? --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 17:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Whoh... hang on... might have just been a freak occurrence. I explicitly saw a subscriber-only sort of message when I linked in from an {{unblock-auto}}. Lemme see. --slakrtalk / 17:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Ah, the one on unblock-auto had a different url (...?tool_id=66&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip= instead of ...?tool_id=66&ip=). I had just assumed that once it said "subscriber-only" that it applied no matter what. :P Anyway, reverted. =) --slakrtalk / 17:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem ... like I said, I have no strong preference ... I was just confused and wondering how I was getting access if it was subscriber content now. Thanks for finding the cause! --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 17:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Help Please

I'm sorry for forgetting my signature, I was to quick in posting, can you by any chance help me move a page please? I currently have it on my subpage. Thanks

Jack W. 00:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

--Jack W. 00:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Willow (talkcontribs)

Moved someone else's comment...

and signbot signed it from me because I accidentally used "copy" instead of "cut". The other person had already left a sig, but I guess it was too old for the bot.[5] T34CH (talk) 03:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

IP

You blocked an IP User talk:99.142.8.221 it has been raised on my talk page that their sock is still active could you have a look please. BigDunc 09:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Problem Signing

Hey, Slakr, I'm signing with 4 tildes but the results are not as expected (sinebot signs for me). You asked for diffs, I'm somewhat confused by what you are requesting, do you need a link to this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gunfight_at_the_O.K._Corral&diff=prev&oldid=321707288 ? Should the box on signatures be ticked? Or left unchecked? Thank you for taking the time to read this, hope I'm not being a pain over something that should be obvious to me. ♠Ratko 06:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RatkoDimitrijevic (talkcontribs)

Please disregard, I figured it out. ♠Ratko (talk) 06:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Signing?

SineBot signed a post I put on Arbitrarily0's talk page. It's right here. What's going on? The Arbiter 22:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Arbiter (talkcontribs)


And it just happened again. The Arbiter 22:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Your user page link isn't what your current user name is. The bot assumes you're signing as someone else. --slakrtalk / 16:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

77.220.15.132

I have unblocked 77.220.15.132 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) as I cannot confirm any open ports, at least not with NMAP. Fred Talk 21:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Good and Bad ways of getting around SineBot

First the Good way is to manually sign and date your posts. Here is an example. (Enclosed in nowiki markup.)

[[User:Allen4names|Allen]]4[[User talk:Allen4names|names]] {{subst:CURRENTTIME}}, {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)

Did you note the substitution? Get rid of it for the Bad way.

Allen4names {{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)

With the Bad way the faked time stamp should change with each edit. -- Allen4names 05:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC) and my usual signature allennames 05:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Purging the page can also make the faked time stamp change. -- Allen4names 05:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
SineBot isn't a security mechanism, and I couldn't care less if people "get around it." The easiest way to "get around it" is to simply add {{NoAutosign}} to your user page. As for using transcluding templates in your signature, it's a huge violation of the signatures guideline and will probably end up with someone blocked if they were to do so. --slakrtalk / 16:42, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know where to make suggestions

So I'm making them here. Sine bot should also include an opt-in method of auto signing with a typical signature. This way, experienced users who suffer from forgetfulness can have sinebot write a normal signature such as the one on the end of this post, rather than the usual embarrassing one. Kerdek (Tell me if I screw up) 07:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Making a bot

Hello! I am currently running my own wiki on the MediaWiki software. I noticed your bot as one of the most active and I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction. I'd like to create a bot similar (or different) to yours. I wanted to know how I could get this done most efficiently. --Benp123456789 (talk) 23:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Warning

Please provide a link to any warning given..? Off2riorob (talk) 19:15, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I assumed that his post to the 3RR report was evident that it was a mistake. It seems overkill to re-post to his talk page a warning about actions that he already knows he screwed up. --slakrtalk / 19:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
That said, you're free to do so if you so desire. :P --slakrtalk / 19:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Warning?

Where is a link to this warning that you have given? Also as you mentioned 1RR on all articles, what are the conditions related to that? Off2riorob (talk) 19:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

You already asked me in the section above, and I already answered you in the section above. Also, check his talk page history. Someone already gave him a warning about the 1RR on the article, but only after he accidentally violated it. The 1RR on other articles that I mentioned is voluntary and a strong suggestion, because given his block log, there's a good chance he'll get blocked for a quite a while if he keeps edit warring and another admin sees it. --slakrtalk / 22:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
  • thank you'

thank you for information about sign 82.47.164.107 (talk) 19:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot signed clear vandalism

Have you considered/does SineBot check whether something is vandalism before signing it? See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASame-sex_marriage&action=historysubmit&diff=325798602&oldid=325798459 Best, KarlFrei (talk) 15:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt Account

Why did you delete my article on Super Granny? its a notabel article on a software game? please help —Preceding unsigned comment added by McJombo Sails (talkcontribs) 01:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Are you there admin??? please hlep me —Preceding unsigned comment added by McJombo Sails (talkcontribs) 01:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Those edits above me were from my alt account, for WP:NEWT. Just wanted to re-inform you, that you can't CSD software articles. --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 04:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
It's a web game and thus web content; thus, it's CSDA7. Actually, it's still CSD-able, because it still does not assert any notability, but since the google result looks like it's gotten popular (or is at least highly linked to), it probably does meet notability. --slakrtalk / 05:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
And by the way, intentionally creating crap articles to try to goad admins into deleting them so that you can drop chiding notes on their talk pages... well... I'm not quite sure what to say about that. I mean, I appreciate you trying to improve the newbie experience, but I'm not entirely sure trickery and deception is the best way to solve the problem, because historically speaking, it seems to only increase job dissatisfaction and organizational disunity. Of course, that's just my opinion. --slakrtalk / 05:22, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Furthermore, it would help—since you know so much about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines—if you stub-tagged the Super Granny article that you created with your sock, added some categories to it, and actually Wikified it. Heck, maybe even abide by one of our core policies and actually add some cites. Or, were you planning to simply let it linger around until I or someone else fixed it? I should hope that you're as much worried about the encyclopedia experience as you're worried about the "newbie experience." --slakrtalk / 05:31, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
No that's incorrect, games are considered software unless they are played in the web browser. Super Granny is a desktop based game albeit you can play it online at certain places it's still desktop based, so does not fall under CSD A7. Secondly, if you would like to go back to the CSD page and maybe read it over, it would help, because you're not using that criteria correctly at the moment. Thirdly, I haven't had a lot of time to edit that article yet or put this all up at WP:NEWT, so don't try and act like the policy wonk when you aren't following it yourself. --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 05:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought the purpose of WP:NEWT was to try to measure the real newbie experience, not to come up with the most borderline speedy deletion you can (a game that's downloaded from the web, occasionally played from the web, but not "web content") to see if an admin will still delete it. Mr.Z-man 06:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't really matter what you thought it was for. As long as the socks weren't being disruptive, they're pretty much allowed to do anything. --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 11:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I would argue that adding crappy articles to mainspace, specifically engineering to be as bad as possible while remaining outside of CSD so that you can go around and act all condescending to admins when they delete them (without even considering IAR) is disruptive. The only real difference between what you're doing and purposely exploiting the wording of CSD to disrupt the project is your motive. If you wanted to see the real newbie experience, why didn't you wait for slakr to respond to your alt account before "breaking character"? But as you say, my opinion is worthless, so, whatever... Mr.Z-man 17:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
My point in doing the experiment this way was to mix up WP:NEWT a bit, if you're going to have all of the experiments the same way what's the point of doing them at all? Feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD/Coffee. --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 23:43, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:NEWT

Hello I just wanted to inform you that there was a thread started that concerns you and other editors at Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD/Coffee. Feel free to comment there! --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 23:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Getting the Summit on the Homepage of Wikipedia

Hi, I just saw you marked the World Summit on Food Security 2009 as current event. Can this be made available on the homepage of Wikipedia? Thanks! --Gsalokhe (talk) 11:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

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why do you have a bot--Anthony 5432 (talk) 13:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)Anthony 5432

Check out the bot policy. Basically, it's kind of like having an inferior clone that does all of the trivial work that you don't wanna keep doing yourself (e.g., signing comments or blocking the myriad of open proxies on the internet). In a way, they could all be called Bitch Slakr (I, II, III, and so on), but I wouldn't want them to be confused with being me during times when I'm bitchy; so, they have unique, user-friendly names instead. :P --slakrtalk / 10:29, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot tilde template suggestion

At the moment, Sinebot does this: "If a particular person makes three or more unsigned comments in a 24 hour period, the bot will place a single Tilde warning on his/her talk page." It might be useful if it did this for editors posting to a talk page for the first time if they fail to sign, without waiting for them to make three in a 24 hour period (or to post the welcome template, which includes this guidance). It might be useful for it to do this for longer-time editors who have never posted a signature also, if there's any way to easily determine that. Шизомби (talk) 18:03, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Confusion about tildes

Thank you for your message. I am new to the internet, and am finding the protocols very diffult to follow. (Unlike you, I did not grow up with computors of anykind, let alone personal computors). I have been clicking on the tilde notice at the bootom of the edit screen, assuming that would do the trick. Apparrently you are (automated or not) aware of the workings of Wikipedia, so maybe you could suggest to them that the instruction be modified to include what you have told me - click the signature button on the tool bar. Even I can understand that.--Coralhue (talk) 13:15, 23 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coralhue (talkcontribs) Still don't seem to have got it right? Coralhue (talk) 13:23, 23 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coralhue (talkcontribs)

SineBot for az.wiki

Hello! Seems in az.wiki people are in "trouble" regarding signing unsigned comments manually. I was wondering if your SineBot would be so kind to help with that in az.wiki. Best, Gulmammad | talk 18:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC) p.s. loved your user boxes :-),

SignBot dates comments too?

I accidentally typed three tildes instead of four, and then when I went to fix it I saw that SineBot had already taken care of it. Thanks! Reach Out to the Truth 07:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

SineBot contacted me about signing the user talks with Tilds

But Huggle is adding warnings to the user talk pages and not I. So it is incorrect for the bot to contact like this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammubhave (talkcontribs) 13:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment format

Hi, you may wish to have a look at this correction. The closing comment tag introduced by Sinebot was incorrect IMHO. Cheers --Edcolins (talk) 08:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC) Please ignore my comment. This tag was changed later, after your bot's edit... --Edcolins (talk) 09:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Delete for User:Minitomaster

In response to the speedy delete request to delete the page for User:Minitomaster, you said that the request was declined because this user exists. Well, s/he exists only in the sense that s/he has an account. But, when one looks at his/her contribs, one discovers that s/he has only ever edited his/her user and talk pages. This user has never made an edit to a single article on Wikipedia.

Since it does not satisfy WP:CSD#U2, is there a criterion in the CSD General section that would permit its deletion? Recently, there was a similar user page that another admin deleted, but I cannot recall the criterion applied. Might it have been WP:CSD#G1? Thanks Slakr! — SpikeToronto 07:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

You could MFD it. --slakrtalk / 13:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I’ll have a look at WP:MFD, although that one’ll be new for me. It seems that the account was created for, and is used by, kids to just mess about in. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 19:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

SineBot in az.wiki

Hi Slark. I just wanted to remind you that sometime ago I left you a message above regarding SineBot in az.wiki. I was wondering if "he" kindly could help with signatures there. Thanks, Gulmammad | talk 13:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Huggle and Sinebot Problem

Why does Signbot each time complain that i need to sign my edits on user talk page with for tilds? The edits are done by Huggle. The bot must check whether the edit is from Huggle. If yes then please dont leave new messages on the talk page each time complaining about it!

Amol Bhave 13:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammubhave (talkcontribs)

Puzzled?

Go a message that my last two entries in two 'Talk' sections were not signed, when contrary to that they were! What goes on? --aajacksoniv 16:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajacksoniv (talkcontribs)


Whenever I do sign my talk pages and all such, it won't except it! It's not my fault! How do I fix this? --Moptopstyle1 02:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talkcontribs)

First, make sure you are typing ~~~~ at the end of each of your comments. Second, if you already are, please note that your signature must have a link to your user page and talk page in order for the bot to know it is signed. --Hadger 00:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

One of your bot accounts, Swine bot, gave me good advice. Thanks!--Wikigoogleplex (talk) 02:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

SineBot

How do I put my page on ignore from it?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Does this help? AKAF (talk) 09:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I have the {{bot}} thing on my user talk. It's not working.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 10:42, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Before you continue to advocate my pages deletion please consider the following: The fact is it is a very noteworthy page for 3 simple reasons: 1. There is no other web site or business like it in t

Before you continue to advocate my pages deletion please consider the following:

The fact is it is a very noteworthy page for 3 simple reasons:

1. There is no other web site or business like it in the world.

2. The web site is #1 in the world on Google and Yahoo search engines. (Please search Google and Yahoo yourself for Police Bodyguards or Celebrity Police Bodyguards or on Yahoo just search Celebrity Bodyguard)

3. No business of it's type is currently covered on Wikipedia, I have searched Wikipedia for hours and this is the only company of it's type on Wikipedia.

Either you support the Troops or you do not, either you support the groups like this one, who support the Troops or you do not, there is no grey area here, so please stop advocating my pages delation and help me get it approved in some form, again either help me, help them support the Troops with this page or at least stop trying to get it deleted.

I hold a Masters, a MD and PHD, I think I can safely say I understand the rules and regulations of this web site and have not violated them in any way, neither me or my son are mentioned on or appear on its pages, I have never had any contact with this business or web site, nor do I know anyone who has.

I have read and tried to follow the rules, please help me, if you feel my page needs to be deleted, at least show me and my late son the respect of explaining why. Thank You,

Dr. Richard Davis Father of a United States Army Combat Veteran Killed in Action in Iraq —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrRichardDavis (talkcontribs) 06:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of whether or not your son/father/whoever was killed in a war, that fact, alone, does not inherently bestow any sort of notability upon your biography. Furthermore, it is apparent that you might not be as fully aware of our policies and guidelines as you might believe. For instance, judging by your contributions list, it would appear that not only have you ignored the canvassing guideline by cross-posting the same message to several talk and user pages, you also seem to be confusing user pages with talk pages. Finally, your deleted article, The Police Bodyguard Group, appeared to not only lack in notability for groups, but also had a strong advertising tone to it.
Combined, I agree with the deleting admin's actions, and furthermore encourage you to review our guidelines for creating new pages as well as our conflict of interest and notability guidelines. I'll also post a copy of this on your talk page. Cheers. --slakrtalk / 19:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Creating a musician's article

just wonderin, if i want to write or create a page on wikipedia for a local songwriter, what should i do to stop it being deleted??

any help....would help

Danni dondon (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. --slakrtalk / 19:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Dear Slakr

you have deleted my entry and i do not know why. It is an article about a noteable important person and has credible information from billboard and Music week publications. It is not an article promoting a company or a person in business as Paul Wilson has just actually retired. It was a glorious attempt to get his recogniton for the work he has done and achievements he has gained. The username is paralelmedia and the article was Paul "Jay" Wilson. Hope you can assist as i really am wiki confused.

Heather —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heather Bradbury (talkcontribs) 14:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I saw your user page with the collapsible navframes and I peeked at the source code. I would like to use those on my user page. Is there a template to create those frames, or do I have to manually create the DIVs and sub-DIVs as you did. •••Life of Riley (TC) 20:17, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I think you might have to manually do them, but you might ask around, as there might be a template or something. --slakrtalk / 05:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Delay time

I see there is a 90-second delay before SineBot applies a signature. This is too short for those of us who may not refresh our watchlists that frequently. In particular, by the time you've hovered over an edit or a diff to see whether it's useful, SineBot has already signed it and when you revert, the reversion is to the unsigned version rather than to the previous unvandalised version. Ideally, a revert should do both, to avoid unnecessary work. Comment? Rodhullandemu 01:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

update on my comments

I added a comment on the discussion page Lactobacillus acidophilus. No actions have been taken and my comments are given below again. Could you please update the page. If you have questions, please refer back to me on my talk page.


Disagreement with statements on DDS-1 strain of L. acidophilus" I disagree with the statement that the Nebraska Cultures is the only manufacturer of DDS-1 strain of L. acidophilus. I know the fact that UAS Laboratories holds a patent and trademark of this strain of probiotics. The registered trademark No. is 1,685,959 which was registered in May 12, 1992. Please update this information. nutra —Preceding undated comment added 22:36, 15 December 2009 (UTC).

-Nutraperson-

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --slakrtalk / 22:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Trillenium

Thank you. I understand now. Guess I should have read the notability guidelines first.Sorry. Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shop&socialize (talkcontribs) 08:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot and bv3dsxcssdq

This is in relation to sinebot. Please do not sign comments with the edit summary bv3dsxcssdq. These are spam-bot messages. By signing them, it makes it very difficult to revert all of them. -- kainaw 14:44, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you happen to have a few examples that I can take a peek at? --slakrtalk / 22:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
this is one of the spam-bots used in the mass vandalism. -- kainaw 23:00, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Regarding SineBot

Hello,

I am currently an administrator of the Cyber Nations Wiki, a private wiki hosted on Wikia servers. Several users have recently began asking if it would not be possible to acquire a copy of SineBot to run on our wiki. If you do not wish to release the source code, I'm sure we could arrange for the script to run directly from your current host - our wiki is fully compliant with bots which can connect through our API. If you would be willing to discuss the possibility of having SineBot run, please leave a message on my talk page or email me at mvonpreussen@gmail.com. I look forward to your reply. Happy holidays, Michael von Preußen. 75.154.74.17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC).

Here ya go

The article: Superior canal dehiscence --71.97.83.44 (talk) 03:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)`

wrong sign

an ip slightly changed the indent on some text and sinebot went and tried to throw a random sig in the middle [6].--Crossmr (talk) 14:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

My sig not appearing

Apologies if this isn't the right place.

Hey, after adding what I wanted to write in a talk page, I add '----' yet after pressing 'Save' my sig doesn't appear, all that appears is '----'. Why isn't this being converted to my sig? ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpandilo (talkcontribs) 11:05, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that you are not using tildes (~~~~). You were using dashes (----)

--iBendiscuss 05:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. :) Cpandilo 09:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome!--iBendiscuss 01:18, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

SineBot

Hello,

On the SineBot page it says that there is a list of high priority pages. I'm not perfect at signing post, so could you add User talk:IBen?

--iBendiscuss 05:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

SineBot's Messages

SineBot's messages saying you should sign your post should also include the picture for the beta button that signs posts (the picture on beta is different). Otherwise, users may get confused. --Hadger 21:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it should. Unfortunately, slakr isn't around much...--iBendiscuss 01:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't use a custom message, it uses {{tilde}}, so requests to change {{tilde}} should be made over there. --slakrtalk / 22:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah... I forgot. (Really, I did.) --Hadger 03:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Delta Chi Association & Delta Ch Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon

To: Wikipedia Editors slakr, DGG, C.Fred & Ronhjones

Gentlemen:

By way of introduction I am H. William Fogle, Jr. (Hwf1870, Bill Fogle, bill.fogle@cox.net), the Alumni Historian of the Delta Chi Association (the alumni arm of the

Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon at Cornell University). I am also the sole author of the thirty historical papers about this Chapter that you will find on the

Cornell University eCommons@Cornell site. See http://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/7626.

All of these papers bear the notation Copyright: ©2006 -Delta Chi Association, Ithaca NY. As Alumni Historian and member of the Board of the Delta Chi

Association I am authorized to provide permissions for the use of this material and am also required to obtain permissions as required for copyrighted material that I

have used in these documents. There are only one or two cases of the latter.

I am also the author of Cornell Deke House A History of the 1893 Lodge. Ithaca NY: The Delta Chi Association, 1993. Copies are located in the Cornell University Library (+LJ75/.315/ 1993Z), the DeWitt Historical Society of Tompkins County (728.4 7655, accession #1994.9.1)

401 East State Street, Ithaca 14850) and the Library of Congress (Washington DC).

I noted that there were at lease three existing Wikipedia articles that connected to Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon at Cornell University:

“Deke House (Ithaca, New York)” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deke_House_(Ithaca,_New_York)

“John De Witt Warner” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_De_Witt_Warner

“Mario García Menocal” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Garc%C3%ADa_Menocal

I edited “Deke House (Ithaca, New York)” on 29 December 2009 to correct the spelling of my name in the references. I edited “John De Witt Warner” on 29 December 2009 to correct the link to the reference Fogle, Jr., Homer William (3 Jul 2006). "DX of DKE Special Study #09: I edited “Mario García Menocal” on 30 December 2009 to add the two references that described the 1920 DKE Convention: Minot, John Clair (February 1921).

"The Convention in Havana," Delta Kappa Epsilon Quarterly, XXXIX, 1, p. 1-25; and Fogle, Homer William Jr. (25 Nov 2005). The Deke House at Cornell: a

concise history of the Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon, 1870-1930.Cf. pp. 27, 57, 60, 64, 66-69.

My next steps were to create two brief articles, "Delta Chi Association" and "Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon." The information for these articles consisted

of abridgements from http://hdl.handle.net/1813/3931 (Title: "Chapter and Alumni Operations Handbook, 2006" Author: Fogle, Homer William Jr.)

I completed the first article, "Delta Chi Association" on 30 December and that seemed to be accepted by the system. However, on the following day the text for the

second article, "Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon." triggered your plagiarism monitor and, I think, perhaps another on significance.

I would like to complete these two articles and see them registered in Wikipedia.

This chapter of DKE is one of the most historically significant college societies in the United States. It has direct connections to a host of important historical figures

including two Presidents of the United States. The lodge is on the National Registor of Historic Places and the Ithaca Landmark list. You will find much of the

historical data in http://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/3223.

Please advise if I may proceed with these two articles.

Respectfully,

H. William Fogle, Jr. (Hwf1870) Hwf1870 (talk) 20:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC) Alumni Historian, Delta Chi Association bill.fogle@cox.net

Whitelist

Not sure what this edit means [7], the link is not affiliated with node magazine. See MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist#node.tumblr.com. Also the log does not link to any discussions[8]. --Hu12 (talk) 07:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea. Another admin was having trouble saving a page because tumblr is blacklisted but one blog that was on it (the one at node.*) was a reliable enough blog for whatever the article was (I'd like to say "Spook Country" or something). I added the regex because he didn't know how and because I didn't want him to screw it up. I put the admin's nickname/username in the comment on the log. If you wanna revert, you're free to, but please discuss it with him.
Also, as an FYI, I'm not going to start a discussion for something as trivial as a basic exception to an over-reaching blacklist entry. In cases of black and whitelists, the onus is squarely on the person removing the whitelisted regex if a blacklist entry is interfering with the building of the encyclopedia.
--slakrtalk / 12:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Opinion

Recently I’ve been involved in a dispute in the article about Carmen Miranda. The issue in discussion was the fact that the article refers to this artist as “Portuguese-born Brazilian” and uses a source that does not support such expression. I presented many reliable sources that support that this artist had only Portuguese citizenship and not a Brazilian one. This artist has also born in Portugal. No further sources were presented to support her supposed “brazilian” citizenship. Some users joined together and stated that she is more Brazilian than Portuguese because she identifies herself with Brazil, thus the expression Portuguese-born Brazilian was correct. I think that this is a clear original research where they use sources that say she identified with Brazil to support she was Brazilian (a clear interpretation and personal opinion and theory). This goes against one of the three core policies of Wikipedia Wikipedia:No original research. I asked RfC where it ended in 5/1 consensus against me. Since no reliable sources were presented and the issue was not cleary addressed I moved to mediation, see here [9]. Mediation was accepted by 3 of those users but they were not open to mediate. I did a suggestion of compromise from my part where I suggested the expression “Portuguese-Brazilian” instead of “Portuguese” what I was defending, hopping that this discussion would end in an agreement. It cleary didn’t since the other part did not made any suggestion for resolving the discussion nor presented any compromise or showed interest in that. So Mediation was closed and it ended in (3/2) against me. Afterward Mediator of the discussion said that I showed no respect for the consensus (5/1) obtained in RfC and stated I was forum-shopping to get my way by having asked Mediation a thing that he suggested I did not had the right, see here [10]. Post this I would like to get some opinion in this situation. What should i do? Should i present this case to ArbCom? Sorry to be bothering you with this but I fell a bit insulted with this entire situation and really need some neutral opinion. Thank you. Tacv (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

The above user is forum-shopping. He argued on the talk page of the article and consensus was against him. He started an RFC on the talk page, and consensus was against him. He took it to mediation, and consensus was upheld. His arguments regarding the facts don't hold water. He has it in mind that in order to be called "Brazilian" you have to be a Brazilian citizen. That has been demonstrated to be a false statement, yet he continues to argue that point. It's an endless loop. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots00:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
User:Baseball Bugs stop following me. This is not the first time you do that to me. "Wikistalking" is a violation of Wikipedia:Harassment. Tacv (talk) 00:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Single-purpose account, forum-shopping, trying to get opponents blocked so he can have his way with an article since consensus was against him. All because of the expression "Portugese-born Brazilian". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots01:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

SineBot False Positive

I left a message on a user's talk page (and revised it), he responded on mine, and I moved his response back to his talk page – after which SineBot added my name onto the end of his signed comment which I moved over. One thing I did notice which might have thrown SineBot off: the other guy's sig was surrounded by parentheses ().
-Garrett W. { } 18:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Please have a look at Talk:Same-sex marriage in the United States.
Native94080 (talk) 17:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Message of Sinebot : Your recent edits

I received twice this message:

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 22:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

But how to do if sign your posts and doesn't work with me!! is there a way ti sign i.e. manually???Rirunmot 22:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


Duduk Instrument

Dear Kurt,

On the wikipedia page for the instrument Duduk. It is protected and it doesn't say that it originated from Armenia, and it does. My proof is this. The duduk is one of the oldest double reed instruments in the world and dates back over 3,000 years. Variants of the duduk can be found in Armenia and the Caucasus. The roots of Armenian duduk music go back to the times of the Armenian king Tigran the Great (95–55 BC). Well, during the rule of King Tigran the Great. Armenia was a nation, and the countries of Turkey, or the seljuk Turks, and Azerbaijan were not a country and a people yet. Therefor, that is the proof that indeed the Armenians have created the Duduk and I would like to see that added to wikipedia. by that I mean that Wikipedia says that the Duduk is originated from Armenia and the Duduk wikipedia page is still protected from vandalism after that. Can you please do the edit for me?

Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armoboy323 (talkcontribs) 03:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, the proper page for your request would be the talk page for that article.
Secondly, no matter what info you want to add, it needs to be verifiable in reliable sources. Unfortunately, we can't just take your word for it.
-Garrett W. { } 04:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Virgin birth (mythology)

Your sinebot is signing my comments on 'virgin birth (mythology)' even though I clicked the signature button at the top. I can't discuss this on the talk page because now my comments are deleted before the page is saved.--Hammy64000 (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah the very busy and charming slakr sinebot. See, um, everyone is busy, but many of us get our work done. So now clear up your pretense of helping on "Virgin birth (mythology)" so my comments show up on the talk page.--Hammy64000 (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Sinebot False Positive

diff That seemed like it signed a post that was already signed. Just FYI. Tim1357 (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Ok. Thanks, sinebot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imsmexinsmexin (talkcontribs) 17:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Sinebot false positive, general area

Caught a Sinebot false positive today. I think it's best to instruct Sinebot to avoid signing in the RFA area overall. I'm not aware of a clean way to opt out of every RFA page, unless perhaps the opt-out is part of the RFA template. I undid this edit today which was a signing that it shouldn't have done. You would know more of the internals than I would about how best to address this, so I defer that to you, but just thought I'd let you know, because this looks like it could happen again in the future. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 20:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon

To: Wikipedia Editors slakr, DGG, C.Fred & Ronhjones Gentlemen: Please recall that we were having some discussion about the appropriateness of adding an article on the Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon to Wikipedia. I concede that an article on the Delta Chi Association (the alumni arm of the Chapter) is not necessary, but I would like to go forward with an article on the chapter. I have prepared a text that follows in this message. All sources for the material are cited. I note that Wikipedia carries many articles on specific clubs and societies in American universities. The "Dartmouth College Greek organizations" article provides subarticles on the individual Greek-letter chapters. "Eating club (Princeton University)" links to separate articles on the five bicker clubs and the five non-selective clubs in Princeton The secret honor societies of Cornell University have articles, i.e. "Sphinx Head" and "Quill and Dagger." There are individual articles on six of the eight final clubs at Harvard University. Yale University's societies, e.g. Skull and Bones" well are represented. In other words, I see ample precedent for an article on a specific college club. You will note that there is sufficient historical significance cited to warrant an article. Please advise if I may proceed. I would appreciate responses by email: bill.fogle@cox.net H. William Fogle (HWF1870) Alumni Historian, Delta Chi Association Hwf1870 (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed text for Wikipedia article

The Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (ΔX of ΔKE) is an undergraduate social fraternity for men at Cornell University.

Historical Significance

The historic importance of this fraternity chapter derives from four attributes:

  1. the intent of its founders and architectural mentors for the Chapter to take on the role of an Oxbridge style college within an American university setting;
  2. the exceptional political and martial traditions of its membership as evidenced by the many memorials preserved in the Chapter’s lodge;
  3. the leading role played by Delta Kappa Epsilon in the Secret society movement at Cornell University (c. 1870-1930); and
  4. the number of members who achieved distinction in public life and commerce while maintaining close ties to the undergraduate establishment in Ithaca throughout their careers.

Noteworthy Events

Noteworthy events in the Chapter’s history include the following.

  • U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes became an honorary member of Delta Kappa Epsilon in 1877 following the initiation of his three sons in the Delta Chi Chapter of DKE: Birchard Austin Hayes '74, James Webb Cook Hayes '76 (both initiated on October 7, 1873) and Rutherford Platt Hayes '80 (initiated on October 13, 1876).
  • New York State Governor Theodore Roosevelt, a Deke from the Harvard College chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (A of ΔKE), visited the Chapter on 20 June 1899 and planted two Norway Spruce trees to commemorate the memory of Brother Clifton Beckwith Brown ’00 who had been killed in the Battle of San Juan Hill on July 1, 1898.
  • The chapter was an active member of the Star League, the five leading secret societies at Cornell during the nineteenth century: Zeta Psi (founded 1868), Kappa Alpha Society (1868), Alpha Delta Phi (1869), Delta Kappa Epsilon (1870) and Psi Upsilon (1876). This consortium that cooperated to varying degrees with respect to social affairs, intramural athletics and rush, eventually became the Big Six with the addition of Chi Psi (1869).
  • Delta Chi Brother Mario Garcia Menocal III '88, the third President of the Republic of Cuba, invited the members of Delta Kappa Epsilon to hold their 76th DKE Convention in Havana. This assembly convened in December 1920. The Delta Chi Chapter of the fraternity was represented by a delegation of fifteen brothers. The convention elected Delta Chi Brother Stephen Byrd Horrell '21 to preside in the office of Convention President.

Distinguished Alumni

Political Leaders and Public Office Holders

Objects, Motto and Arms

Objects

The Chapter's purpose and goals accord with the original statement of the Delta Kappa Epsilon Fraternity's purpose:

The Objects of Delta Kappa Epsilon are the cultivation of general literature and social culture, the advancement and encouragement of intellectual excellence, the promotion of honorable friendship and useful citizenship, the maintenance of gentlemanly dignity, self-respect and morality in all circumstances, and the union of stout hearts and kindred interests to secure to merit its due reward. DKE handbook for Pledges (Delta Kappa Epsilon Council, 1956).

Motto

The overt motto is “Μή δοκεῖν ἀλλ᾽ εἶναι,” or in Roman transliteration, “Me Dokein All Einai,” meaning “Not to seem, but to be.” The phrase is taken from line 592 in the 467 B.C. play, Seven Against Thebes, by Aeschylus.

Arms

The armorial bearings of the Chapter are listed with the American College of Heraldry as Registration Number 715, effective as of 14 October 1987. The blazon reads as follows.

Arms.
Or, between two chevrons counterpoint, the upper Gules and the lower Azure, as many men's hearts, issuant from each and pendant overall a chain of seven links, joining them in base as their fifteenth link the interlaced Greek letters "Delta" and "Chi" Gules, counterchanged Or over the lower chevron. At fess point an inescutcheon depicting a landscape, namely, Azure, the sun rising in splendor from behind three mountains Vert, and in base Sable, therein the sun reflected wavy Argent. Above the Shield is placed a helmet with visor closed, and in Escrol below the Shield this motto: "Not to seem, but to be," in Greek Letters.

Charter, Governance and Tax Status

Charter

The Chapter was chartered by the Phi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (Φ of ΔKE) at Yale College, New Haven CT, on 11 February 1870 with an inaugural dinner held at the Clinton House on that date. Brother James Julius Chambers '70 (1850 - 1920) served as the Chapter's first president. The Chapter was subsequently incorporated in the State of [New York] as the Delta Kappa Epsilon Fraternity at Cornell University, Inc., on 5 November 1883 "for the purpose of mental, moral and social improvement." The Certificate of Incorporation was filed with the Tompkins County Clerk on 7 November 1883 and with the New York Secretary of State on 8 November 1883.

Governance

The undergraduate organization (1) operates a fraternal association, (2) manages a residence facility, (3) runs a dining service, and (4) conducts social entertainments for the benefit of its active members and alumni. The Chapter is organized and governed in accordance with Chapter Bylaws that were last revised and ratified on 29 January 2009. In addition, members are bound by the provisions of subordinate House Rules that govern conduct, discipline, decorum and other such matters.

Federal and State Tax Status

The Chapter is a tax exempt public charity in accordance with Title 26 U.S.C. (Internal Revenue Code) §501(c)7 per a group ruling letter issued to the Delta Kappa Epsilon Council in January 1943. The chapter is recognized as a "not for profit" corporation by the New York State's Division of Corporation Records in a letter dated 23 April 1987.

Historical Resources

DKE Depository

The records, correspondence, publications and selected artifacts of the Chapter are held in the DKE Depository (Collection #37-4-1535) maintained by the Cornell University Library's Rare and Manuscript Collections Department under terms set forth in a formal Memorandum of Understanding dated 29 February 1988 and executed on 4 March 1988. The Depository holds the original 1870 Charter. Black & white and color photographic images of this document are filed as N4279 and N4317, respectively. A replacement charter, also held in the ΔKE Depository, was issued by the Sixty-Second ΔKE Convention held at Hartford CT, 12-13 November 1908. Black & white and color photographic images are filed as N4280 and N4318, respectively.

Publications

The chapter publishes The Delta Chi Deke newsletter (ISSN #0895-5255, registered on 10 September 1987 with the Library of Congress National Serials Data Program) under the direction of an undergraduate editor and distributes same to all alumni and friends of Delta Chi. Back issues dating from Volume I, Number 1 (May 1935), are held in the DKE Depository.

Chapter House and Grounds

The 13 South Avenue property (City of Ithaca tax parcel #31-1-10) and the lodge thereon known as the Deke House (Cornell Facility #4719) are owned by Cornell University. The lodge has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places managed by the U. S. Department of the Interior, National Park Service, since 11 January 1991 consequent to a petition filed by The Delta Chi Association on 20 August 1988. The lodge has also been listed on the New York State Register of Historic Places managed by the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation, since 3 December 1990 as a result of a collateral petition filed on 25 September 1988. The Deke House was designated as a Local Landmark in accordance with the City of Ithaca Landmarks Preservation Ordinance by unanimous approval of the City of Ithaca Common Council on 15 January 2003. The two Roosevelt Spruce Trees (Norway Spruce, picea abies) standing on the west lawn are listed on The New York State Registry of Famous and Historic Trees administered by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.

Alumni Organization

The Delta Chi Association is the alumni arm of the Chapter.

References

  1. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (5 Dec 2006)."Chapter and Alumni Operations Handbook, 2006"
  2. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (7 Feb 2009)."Articles of Governance: Effective and in Force on 29 January 2009"
  3. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (25 Nov 2005). The Deke House at Cornell: a concise history of the Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon, 1870-1930
  4. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (2 Jul 2006). "DX of DKE Special Study #04: The Roosevelt Spruce Trees"
  5. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (1993). Cornell Deke House --A History of the 1893 Lodge. Ithaca NY: The Delta Chi Association. Copies are located in the Cornell University Library (+LJ75/.315/ 1993Z), the DeWitt Historical Society of Tompkins County NY (728.4 7655, accession #1994.9.1) and the Library of Congress (LJ75 .D315 1993, LC Control No.: 94226682).
  6. The Heraldic Register of America, IV, p. 64 (Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon).

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