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**Normally, that would be true. But this is Graham87 making the proposal, who is both our resident expert on these matters, and widely known and respected. I think the notices given will be sufficient, unless a bot operator doesn't appear/volunteer. (And I support the proposal, too, fwiw). –[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 02:33, 9 September 2013 (UTC) |
**Normally, that would be true. But this is Graham87 making the proposal, who is both our resident expert on these matters, and widely known and respected. I think the notices given will be sufficient, unless a bot operator doesn't appear/volunteer. (And I support the proposal, too, fwiw). –[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 02:33, 9 September 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Agreed. Graham is well-respected and we can certainly have the discussion here. {{ping|Graham87}} I don't have much experience with this. Could you please list some specific edits that would help screen readers? Thanks much. [[Special:Contributions/64.40.54.118|64.40.54.118]] ([[User talk:64.40.54.118|talk]]) 03:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC) |
:::Agreed. Graham is well-respected and we can certainly have the discussion here. {{ping|Graham87}} I don't have much experience with this. Could you please list some specific edits that would help screen readers? Thanks much. [[Special:Contributions/64.40.54.118|64.40.54.118]] ([[User talk:64.40.54.118|talk]]) 03:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Here's an example of me [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Quebec_sovereignty_movement&diff=prev&oldid=572023521 removing line breaks to make a proper HTML list] and here's one of me [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Depend_(undergarment)&diff=prev&oldid=551123844 moving a TOC for accessibility reasons] (I'm not sure how I ended up on that topic, but oh well). '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''<font color="green">[[User talk:Graham87|87]]</font> 09:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC) |
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Bot to tag articles only sourced to National Register Information System
Through many pages/months/years? of discussion at WT:NRHP and its archives, it has been decided that a bot is needed to tag any articles with only a single reference to the National Register Information System (NRIS) with the {{NRIS-only}} template, which encourages the addition of extra sources and puts the articles in cleanup categories, "Articles sourced only to the NRIS since MONTH YEAR". The shortcomings of NRIS are explained here.
To find articles that are only sourced to NRIS, a list of all the pages on which {{NRISref}} is transcluded could be a starting point. There may also be pages that link directly to older versions of the NRIS website, which would include the string "www.nr.nps.gov" somewhere in their content. From this giant list of articles, those with a single reference need to be picked off and tagged.
After its initial run, the project would like for the bot to continually check new articles and tag them if they are NRIS-only and prevent the removal of the NRIS-only template from existing articles unless a second source is added. Is this possible?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 05:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you Dudemanfellabra for raising this. The hopes and concerns for what a bot run could accomplish were under discussion at wt:NRHP#Moving forward. I guess it can be discussed here instead; there is a pointer now from there to here.
- I don't agree that it "has been decided" that tagging, as proposed, should be done, and especially not with promises to repeatedly reimpose a tag, where editors make judgment that the tag is not helpful. It would clearly be helpful to identify the articles believed to have faults, say by listing them in a workpage.
- If and when a tag is deemed helpful by a real consensus, the tag itself would need improvement, including to have a state-specific switch/indicator, to enable customization of links for state-specific sources, to enable state-specific categorizations.
- Important concerns about some proposals include:
- the likely disruption caused by the posting of a negatively worded template in many NRHP articles, when the proposed message is alarmist and sometimes false. Note the current wording proposed is far more negative than, say, the {{One source}} template.
- no procedure for removal of template, or intentions to battle about it, when article editors have already done what could be done for an article. For example there are articles where multiple sources were in fact used, but are included as external links or have been removed by article-specific dispute, e.g. where one editor argues a source is a blog or too-blog-like to be included in a mainspace reference. That's a sourcing disagreement to be covered properly at the article's Talk page, and an incorrect tag message should not be re-inserted at the article itself by a bot or otherwise. Some provision for a hidden category or a list of articles not to be re-tagged needs to be set up, before tagging proceeds.
- the potential wp:BATTLEGROUND set up by the wishes by one or more to manually battle, or to have a bot run repeatedly impose, the insertion of a negative template into articles where it is arguably not helpful (for reasons above, or otherwise). Dudemanfellabra's request, here, clarifies that it is indeed his intention to carry on in that way, while he responded unhelpfully and not clearly answering, to a question on this at the previous discussion.
- These are serious issues which should be resolved elsewhere, perhaps including ANI or arbitration or RFC/U, about personal attacks and so on included in the discussion.
- However, if this bot were just to create a workpage, listing and linking to the articles, which would help to quantify the problem and allow for editors to address the targeted articles, and not to tag them in mainspace, I do support that.
- To clarify or perhaps improve upon the bot request:
- Could the bot identify not just the NRIS-only-sourced articles, but also identify no-sourced or just-one-non-NRIS-source articles, and identify which they are. The bot could hopefully identify whether there is zero or just one inline reference in a given article, and where there is one, determine if that is an NRIS-only one by seeing if it starts with <ref name="nris"> or <ref name=nris>. That would correctly identify most NRIS-only ones, but there are other formats of references which actually really only refer to the same NRIS underlying source, but which are presented as references to NationalRegisterOfHistoricPlaces.com (a private website that is an NRIS mirror) or otherwise.
- Could the bot make a list organized by state, or make a separate list for each state, to be located at, say, Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/OneSourceList (or Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/OneSourceList/Alabama, Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/OneSourceList/Alaska, etc for state-specific ones). This would facilitate followup work by editors (who are mostly geographically focused).
- Dudemanfellabra's bot request is the result of a discussion process (Wikipedia talk:NRHP#New articles should be sourced) that started about a month ago. Everyone who has participated in the discussion appears to support this bot request, except for Doncram. Doncram's request to inject several additional layers of complexity does not have support on the Wikiproject -- and in fact may be an attempt to derail Dudemanfellabra's request by making it so impossibly complex that it won't be implemented. Dudemanfellabra's request is a good idea, with broad support. Please consider it. --Orlady (talk) 18:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- There is no complexity that I am able to observe. The language of the tag is in no way, different than, any other tag stating that an article requires work/attention. If the tag were to state, WOW this is terrible OR what a big bag of suck this is, etc etc, sure fine. It does not. I have volunteered to take a look at all NRHP in WV. I started with McDowell County, so far, its about right. BUT, if a bot were to add the potential for more data, lets do it. Very simple.Coal town guy (talk) 18:40, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree with Orlady's characterization. The general discussion has included support for other alternatives, such as creating a cleanup category (which would not require any mainspace display). There was considerable support for that. The discussion also included vile language and personal attacks, and then most participants dropped out, relatedly. There is less-than-broad support for the specific proposal made here about tagging mainspace articles.
- And, about the suggestion that my suggestion is an attempt to make something impossibly complex, is nonsense. It would be easy for a bot to make a worklist, this is done all the time. And should not be controversial. --doncram 18:41, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you disagree with Orlady, OR ANYONE ELSE, isnt there another avenue besides this bot request?Coal town guy (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- In the discussion of this proposal at WT:NRHP, everyone involved besides Doncram supported this proposal; Doncram's attempt to raise issues about this proposal here, after a consensus was already established, strikes me as forum shopping. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 01:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Moreover, this kind of behavior was already discussed at Arbcom, and Doncram was informed that actions such as attacking others' words as "vile" were seriously at variance with our standards — yet he has continued in his course of action. No further action needs to be taken, unless he wants to take himself back to Arbcom. As Hasteur notes, Doncram's suggestion makes the situation far more complicated; let's not make it any harder than necessary. Nyttend (talk) 03:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Dudemanfellabra's bot request is the result of a discussion process (Wikipedia talk:NRHP#New articles should be sourced) that started about a month ago. Everyone who has participated in the discussion appears to support this bot request, except for Doncram. Doncram's request to inject several additional layers of complexity does not have support on the Wikiproject -- and in fact may be an attempt to derail Dudemanfellabra's request by making it so impossibly complex that it won't be implemented. Dudemanfellabra's request is a good idea, with broad support. Please consider it. --Orlady (talk) 18:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- As a bot runner: Dudemanfellabra's request is fairly straightforward and does actively flag down assistance for the NRHP articles in addition to collating the articles by when they were discovered as a problem. doncram's counter proposal seems unnecessarily complicated and prefers the "Out of Sight, Out of Mind" philosophy for flagging down assistance by either creating a hidden maintanance category or by generating a Wikipedia space page that indexes the problems instead of actively calling out the problem on the page where an unregistered user might be able to correct the issue and be converted into a Wikipedian. I also see the subdivision by geographic region as secondary to the "when was the problem called out". Hasteur (talk) 19:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Dudemanfellabra, Doncram, Coal town guy, TheCatalyst3, and Nyttend: Ping on this question. I've got some ambition and mental bandwidth to try tackling this, but don't want to touch the issue with a 40 foot pole unless a consensus as to what you want done has been established. Hasteur (talk) 15:10, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, follow the initial suggestion of Dudemanfellabra, its simple, direct, to the point and lacks complication, especially the part of creating a list f those articles single sourcedCoal town guy (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hasteur, the discussion at Wikipedia talk:NRHP#New articles should be sourced was convoluted, but I believe I am correct in saying that this proposal was supported by User:Dudemanfellabra, User:TheCatalyst31, User:GrapedApe, User:Dmadeo, User:Cdtew, User:Orlady, User:Coal town guy, and User:Blueboar. User:Ammodramus and User:Smallbones made comments that were consistent with support, but they didn't say whether or not they supported it. The only user who opposed it was User:Doncram. As User:Nyttend (who apparently also supports it) notes above, Doncram is under some Arbcom sanctions related to some of the behavior he has demonstrated here. It is also useful to note that one of the outcomes of the "Doncram" case at Arbcom was a statement that the issue of adequacy/inadequacy of stubs like these (a content issue that was central to the Doncram case) was one for the community to work out, and that the above-referenced Wikiproject discussion was essentially about that issue and led directly to this bot request. --Orlady (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- SUPPORT, just in case there was any doubt. I fail to see how in any manner how tagging single source articles is in any way, negative, anyone want to clue me in ???Coal town guy (talk) 17:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- I too support the proposal, although I didn't participate in the original discussion. Theoretically we could occasionally have false positives, e.g. someone places an in-text citation to some other source, but (1) the likelihood of that happening is ridiculously tiny, and (2) with something as innocuous as placing a cleanup template, we're not going to have anything harder than removing the template from any articles where this might happen. Orlady makes a good point; we've reached general agreement on how to handle these stubs, so a bot to fulfill this discussion's agreement would be quite helpful. Nyttend (talk) 21:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, follow the initial suggestion of Dudemanfellabra, its simple, direct, to the point and lacks complication, especially the part of creating a list f those articles single sourcedCoal town guy (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hearing significant consensus for this bot process, I'm going to start developing code to work this. Hasteur (talk) 22:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help, Hasteur. :-) --Orlady (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ping to see how this is coming along. I'm not trying to be pushy, but I have a script that I want to run that necessitates these categories being in place before I start it. I've never requested a bot before, so I don't know how long it normally takes for one to be coded. If this is out of place, forgive me.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 21:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help, Hasteur. :-) --Orlady (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
TedderBot replacement
Hello: Can someone take over the new article alert job from TedderBot? This page has the link to the source code. The bot has been out of operation since August 22. Please see here the requests from various project owners to get bot working again. Thanks. — Ganeshk (talk) 00:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Many of the WikiProjects rely a great deal on the results from this bot; It would be really great if we could get new article listings on a reliable and frequent basis. Thanks. Invertzoo (talk) 13:30, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Request to dump a Template's usage list
This is a read-only request (no bot edits asked, just list pages):
Please list all template calls from Template:RailGauge.
- Template {{RailGauge}} is used in ~11000 pages, quite likely multiple times per page. I'd like tho have a list of all these template calls by input. My targets: I want to source these items on Template:RailGauge/doc, and I want to throw out unreasonable inputs).
rowid | namespace | pagename | |1=
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explained: | output row id | name or number | {{PAGENAME}} | Unnamed para 1 input value as typed ("1=" might be omitted) | {{railgauge}} {{gauge}}
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list of params, n is unk | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
data example a: | 1 | 0 | Standard gauge | 57 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
b: | 4837 | 0 | Bradway Tunnel | ussg | Template:Gauge | wrap=y|al=on | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
c: | 7865 | 0 | Indian Railways | 1676mm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
d: | 124 | 0 | Indian Railways | 1435mm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
data row (CSV example) | "7865", "0", "Indian Railways", "1676mm", "", "allk=on", "foo=nonsensetext", "wrap=yes" |
- Source facts
- Template:RailGauge
- WLH says: ~11000 pages use the template
- Incoming Redirects (R to Template:RailGauge) are to be catched too:
- - Template:Railgauge ~850 pages
- - Template:Gauge ~100 pages
- There can be multiple transclusions per page
- The transclusion can be through a template used on a page: East Hills railway line uses Template:East Hills Line
- Output request
- One full data row per individual template call
- Expect ~25000 rows from ~11000 pages.
- Format: CSV -- you can suggest other
- "rowid" is to be added by the bot (any number will do -- no doubles)
- Header or footer: not needed, but may be added
- Target result page: Template:RailGauge/usage (or Template:RailGauge/usage at 29 aug 2013 looks fine too)
- Other parameters used (all optional and named, or weird & idle) please in a single text string. (Unless it is easy to split them somehow)
-DePiep (talk) 21:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Coding... Thanks for the fabulous, detailed task description! I'll get this done and generate a CSV in the coming days. Theopolisme (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanx! I was wondering if I was writing too shorthanded. Expectations for the result. -DePiep (talk) 23:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- May I abuse your ethousiasm & understanding: please split al inputs into n separates, and so switch columns "R from ..." and n "al=on", "allk=on", "wrap=yes, .... (list after R from .. is inknown by number)) OK? -DePiep (talk) 01:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- So I have swapped the rightmost example columns: Redirects in a single one. All params not being
|1=
are optional and so unknown in number (0 ... ). These n can better be rightmost. Please split into "" each, if can be done easy. Not my primary request clearly. -DePiep (talk) 02:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- So I have swapped the rightmost example columns: Redirects in a single one. All params not being
- May I abuse your ethousiasm & understanding: please split al inputs into n separates, and so switch columns "R from ..." and n "al=on", "allk=on", "wrap=yes, .... (list after R from .. is inknown by number)) OK? -DePiep (talk) 01:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanx! I was wondering if I was writing too shorthanded. Expectations for the result. -DePiep (talk) 23:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Note - I am in the process of migrating individual usages of {{Gauge}} to{{RailGauge}}Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Does not matter (or: could be disturbing even, AGF). Redirects are OK. -DePiep (talk) 23:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ol'lol, from 2011; Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_41#Template_usage. -DePiep (talk) 02:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Oy vey – will this be satisfactory for your purposes? I think I'll still probably write the script (just as a fun exercise for myself), but at significantly lower priority if TemplateTiger will handle your needs. Theopolisme (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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- The data is as expected. So this is basically OK.
- The layout (format) into HTML table is a horror, because I want to process the data further automatically (off wiki). Also the 30-per-page makes it useless. I cannot request (11000/30=) 366 pages manually.
- Does redirect Template:railgauge need its own run?
- Not all params are listed, but that is not a priority (not needed).
- If you can address these problems, this TemplateTiger would be OK.
- These
20082011 results suggest that my estimation of ~25.000 rows may be too low. Could be 50.000 to 100.000. -DePiep (talk) 09:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC) - It is mentioned, that it does not handle nested templates. Does that mean I do not see these at all in the results? It would be OK if these nested templates are listed in their template space. Or another trick? -DePiep (talk) 09:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Theopolisme, any thoughts? -DePiep (talk) 23:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Unused file redirects
Number of pages affected : ~2000
Task : Flag all unused file redirects with {{db-g6|rationale=Unused file redirect}}. And 'unused' is means no incoming links at all.
This will hopefully end the eclipsing of some files at commons as well a dealing with a backlog that has bulit up in respect of -Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused file redirects
Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Is this non-controversial enough that an adminbot should be considered (this would obviously involve further discussion and some strict requirements...for example, a certain amount of time would need to elapse)? Theopolisme (talk) 16:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Adminbots are of themselves controversial, hence the above suggestion.
- If it's technically feasible, a bot to 'cleanup' usages of redirected/retitled images in Article space should also be considered. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- This is possible. Would you prefer it to check on it's own or be commanded by users? Hazard SJ 01:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ideally the imeage-redirect cleanup bot should be able to work on it's own in Article space..
But some kind of log so mistakes can be found would be appreciated.
Note not all usages would have a File: prefix, some infoboxes for example add the File/Image prefix internally... Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Translators available activity updating bot
It was suggested to me at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Finding ACTIVE foreign language speakers. that a bot would be a good option for updating Wikipedia:Translators available. The bot to do this job would, I am supposing on a once or twice monthly schedule, glance across the contributions of editors named therein, and indicate what was the last month in which each such editor had edited. Which would thusly provide an idea of which editors with translational skills would be around to provide such skills in a pinch, as asked. Blessings!! DeistCosmos (talk) 02:17, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Can somebody take over RFC bot?
Chris G (talk · contribs) has left a message on his talk page that real life has taken priority and he's stopped his bots. But he has offered the code if somebody wants to get them running again. Is there anybody willing to take a look at getting RFC bot (talk · contribs) running again? I'm most interested in the WP:DASHBOARD updating, but the RfC stuff is probably a higher priority. Thanks. 64.40.54.22 (talk) 06:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- So... Special:Contributions/Legobot. Unfortunately Chris made the toolserver database private, so I'm starting off with a fresh database. I'm not sure what side effects this might have (people might get FRS spammed a bit extra?), but nothing should blow up. Right now I have it on a hourly cronjob. Is there any need for it to run any faster? Legoktm (talk) 06:33, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hrmph. Special:Contribs/10.4.1.125. I fixed it so that shouldn't happen again in the future. Legoktm (talk) 06:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Legobot to the rescue. Thanks very much, Legoktm. I think hourly is just fine. Is there any chance that Legobot (talk · contribs) could update the WP:DASHBOARD also? Or should that be spun off to a different bot? Thanks. 64.40.54.22 (talk) 06:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- It should get to that, it's still in the middle of a run since it's taking a while to populate the database. Legoktm (talk) 06:58, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Legoktm, I've offered to run take over the bot already, and Chris_G was preparing to hand me all of the stuff required.—cyberpower ChatOnline 11:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- You are also running without approval, which is in violation of the bot policy.—cyberpower ChatOnline 11:43, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- [2] Tbh cyberpower, I would say overlook it this one time because it's a pre-approved task, with the same code and by a trusted bot op, and only temporarily probably if you're going to take over. Rcsprinter (chinwag) @ 20:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Um, well the code has been posted for quite a while, and you hadn't done it yet, so I just did. And no, I'm not going to bother filing BRFAs for taking over harej's bots, that's pointless bureaucracy. Waste of my time, and the BAG member who has to approve it. Legoktm (talk) 21:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- It should get to that, it's still in the middle of a run since it's taking a while to populate the database. Legoktm (talk) 06:58, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Legobot to the rescue. Thanks very much, Legoktm. I think hourly is just fine. Is there any chance that Legobot (talk · contribs) could update the WP:DASHBOARD also? Or should that be spun off to a different bot? Thanks. 64.40.54.22 (talk) 06:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks just wanted to say thanks to everybody for keeping these important bots running. And a quick note that the BRFA for Legobot 33 has been Speedily Approved for the tasks. Thanks again everybody. 64.40.54.104 (talk) 02:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Flag unreferenced BLPs for WikiProjects (2nd request)
(I'd asked about this in late July. Someone else had offered to help with it, but they have since become inactive.)
DASHBot (talk · contribs) used to create, and/or periodically update, a list of unreferenced biographies of living persons for a given Wikiproject (see User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects). However, that bot has been blocked since March. I'm wondering if another one can accomplish this same task. I'm asking on behalf of WP:JAZZ (whose list is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Jazz/Unreferenced BLPs) but there were a lot of other WikiProjects on that list, as well (I'd already removed WP:JAZZ, though). Thanks in advance, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 13:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject tagging request: WP:JAZZ
Hello, WP:JAZZ would like to have a 'bot add the {{WikiProject Jazz}} banner to jazz-related pages that aren't already tagged, and/or auto-assess pages that aren't already assessed.
- Background
- In 2010, we had Xenobot Mk V perform (essentially) the same request that I am now posting. (See archived discussion (2010)). The 'bot also added {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} if and when it was able to do so.
- In January 2013, Yobot fulfilled the same request (since it had been almost 3 years since the original run). The details are available in the archived discussion (Jan 2013). However, there were some problems with the edits, which were cleaned up, but the auto-assessment portion was never completed (see archived discussion (Mar 2013)).
- Request
Essentially, I am asking for a repeat of what Xenobot Mk V originally did for us in 2010 (see above). We wish to add {{WikiProject Jazz}} to articles in jazz-related categories. The list of relevant categories is located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Jazz/Categories, but please note that there are actually three lists of categories at that page, and they each need to be tagged slightly differently:
- We need the bot to add {{WikiProject Jazz|album=yes}} to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the /Albums sub-listing
- We need the bot to add {{WikiProject Jazz|song=yes}} to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the /Songs sub-listing
- We need the bot to add {{WikiProject Jazz}} to the articles (or rather, the talk pages) within the /General sub-listing
To the best of my knowledge, /Categories represents all applicable categories and sub-categories (I deliberately omitted those that are outside the project's scope), so you should not need to worry about sub-category depth. I finished updated these listings a few minutes before posting this.
Furthermore, we wish to auto-assess those pages that do not already have an assessment (including those already tagged with {{WikiProject Jazz}}):
- We wish to inherit
class=
from other WikiProjects (if any):
- Inherit
class=
if only a single rating is available - Inherit
class=
if two or more ratings are available; in the event of auto-stub/inherit conflict, inherit the most frequent (or highest)class=
rating - Presumably these auto-assessments will be flagged as such, e.g.
|auto=yes
|auto=inherit
|auto=length
|autoi=yes
- Inherit
- Otherwise, tag as
class=stub
based either of the following criteria:
- One or more stub templates in the article
- The text of the article is 2,500 bytes or less
- We do not wish to inherit
importance=
ratings.
And, add {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} when possible/applicable.
I have an additional request, but I am not sure whether it's technically possible (see comments). I'd be interested in having the 'bot add needs-infobox=yes to the {{WikiProject Jazz}} template, if the article does not have an {{Infobox foo}} template; or if {{WikiProject Jazz}} can inherit this setting from another WikiProject banner, or it can inherit this setting if the talk page already has {{Infobox requested}}.
Let me know if I can clarify anything, either leave me a message here or at WT:JAZZ.
Thanks in advance, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- You might be interested in the NewPageSearch bot. It can find new pages based on categories, stub templates, and keywords. It does not do any talk page updating, just creates a list. Here is an example of the MusicSearchResult. I could create a custom Jazz new page search if you are interested. --Bamyers99 (talk) 14:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Redirect page is Upstairs, Downstairs; many links link to the redirect page of the 1971 series. Perhaps fix ambiguation? --George Ho (talk) 17:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think disambiguation bots are always a good idea, but WP:DPL has lots of users doing the same thing. If you suggest it somewhere on the talk page... Perhaps it'll get done.
- Or, you can use AWB to do it yourself semi-automatically. Rcsprinter (gossip) @ 20:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Accessibility bot
I was asked by Adam Cuerden, the main contributor to the Signpost's tech report, if I would write a short piece about how to make Wikipedia articles more accessible to screen reader users. I promptly did so and it's now been published along with the rest of the tech report. Adam then suggested on my talk page that the first two problems I noted could be fixed in articles by a bot, which is where you guys come in ... (here's the relevant conversation). In particular, as noted there::
- How should list items separated by image markup be handled?
- How about [the floating TOC templates (or the __TOC__ magic word? Should they be just moved to the right place or outright removed? Or should a hidden section header perhaps be created?
- How about monitoring articles for these problems over time, after the first run is finished?
What do you all think? Graham87 05:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- I, obviously, think this is a great idea. I don't see moving the TOC templates at all controversial. The specific issue of lists seperated by image markup might best be handled with a post on the talk page; to make things easy, why not move the image to the top of the list by bot, then immediately have the bot revert itself. It can then link to the diff of the "suggested change". Or is that too complicated? Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I also think this general idea is good. Anything that makes our content more accessible is a benefit to our readers. Just a couple of notes. My experience has been that bot requests work best when they describe a specific task and show a consensus to perform that task. Perhaps a discussion could be started at WP:VPP describing the details so that we can show the community wants this. Example; remove blank lines from a list and add and asterisk to the beginning of each line (or something like that). Best. 64.40.54.117 (talk) 08:35, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- So pretty much the reverse of what I did? I advertised this discussion at the technical village pump, the talk page of the accessibility guideline and the WikiProject Accessibility talk page. I thought they were the most relevant pages. Graham87 02:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Normally, that would be true. But this is Graham87 making the proposal, who is both our resident expert on these matters, and widely known and respected. I think the notices given will be sufficient, unless a bot operator doesn't appear/volunteer. (And I support the proposal, too, fwiw). –Quiddity (talk) 02:33, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Graham is well-respected and we can certainly have the discussion here. @Graham87: I don't have much experience with this. Could you please list some specific edits that would help screen readers? Thanks much. 64.40.54.118 (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here's an example of me removing line breaks to make a proper HTML list and here's one of me moving a TOC for accessibility reasons (I'm not sure how I ended up on that topic, but oh well). Graham87 09:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Graham is well-respected and we can certainly have the discussion here. @Graham87: I don't have much experience with this. Could you please list some specific edits that would help screen readers? Thanks much. 64.40.54.118 (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)