User talk:Towns Hill

January 2016

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Hi Towns Hill, I find that you have been doing well, creating well-sourced content on difficult topics. Here are some suggestions that might improve things for you:

• Your edits are generally huge and span multiple sections. You probably edit them offline and upload the edits. I do the same too. However, it is important to keep each edit to a manageable size and keep it focused on a single issue or topic. That way, if the other editors disagree with an edit, there is an easy way to discuss it.
• I think you need to engage with talk page discussions more. Whenever an edit is reverted, WP:BRD recommends that you open a talk page discussion and address the objections mentioned in the revert. Engaging on talk pages will you get out of the tendency to edit-war, which is considered a really bad practice by Wikipedians. Talk page discussion will also allow other editors to join in, which will help.

Please keep up the good work! Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 10:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Partition of India

Hello Mr. Butt, I notice that you have been adding a lot of text to the Partition of India article. I haven't yet looked into your edits in detail. However, I need to point out a couple of issues:

• You should never copy whole sentences from the sources. See WP:COPYVIO. You need to summarise the content in your own words. If we find COPYVIO text in your edits, we will revert them wholesale. You cannot depend on other editors to separate the good from the bad.
• You need to appropriate encyclopaedic style in writing your content. See for example WP:WORDS. This problem can be corrected later by some copy-editor if you are unable to do it yourself. However, you should keep the COPYVIO issue in mind. It is extremely important. - Kautilya3 (talk) 09:53, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: His contribution to that article need to be assessed. Some of contribution is good but there is some POV pushing in between. Moreover, this is brand new account who can fix references of books properly since his first edit. Seems experienced enough. --Human3015^{Let It Go}  08:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016

Your recent editing history at Partition of India shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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February 2016

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Kashmir conflict, but we cannot accept original research. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. While you have provided an excellent source, your content is quite different from what is found in the source. Please be more careful in future. Kautilya3 (talk) 02:12, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Please read WP:NEWSORG for how to use newspapers as sources. In general, newspaper opinion columns are not reliable sources, unless the author is a well-known scholar. For historical matters, WP:HISTRS should be used, especially on a contentious topic like the Kashmir conflict. You have been already informed about ARBIPA sanctions. Please follow the Wikipedia policies as required. - Kautilya3 (talk) 11:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

3RR Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bangladesh Liberation War. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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I do not think it is an edit war at all. A lot of the information is extremely one sided. Either it needs to be reformed or a complete separate section will need to be added to explain the other viewpoint. Thank you.

@Volunteer Marek

The information I added was correctly sourced. Some parts of the previous revisions are completely unsourced. However it seems like you may have vested interests in presenting a one-sided perspective of the conflict with no consideration at all for the viewpoints and sources of the other side. In this case you are violating all of Wikipedia's neutrality policies.

You've been warned about edit warring

As an admin I notice you making large reverts at several articles, including Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. These articles are on my watch list due to past disputes, which were often intense. The pattern of your edits suggests you are engaged in disruption. Your talk page shows warnings about edit warring as long ago as January, and you've already been notified of WP:ARBIPA. Please be aware that the next time you make a revert on one of these disputed articles, without first getting consensus on the article talk page, I may block your account with no further discussion. If you find yourself in a disagreement, the steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hey, just wanted to let you know that you need to sign your comments, always. To do that, you just have to put four tildes ( ~~~~ )at the end of your comments. Please do that. Moreover, please make you of colons (:) to indent your replies. You can put number of colons (:) to indent your replies. e.g if you would want to reply to my comment, you would put a single (:) without brackets ofcourse, before you start writing your reply. This will add space to the left side of your opening paragraph and would make it easy for readers to understand from where your comments are beginning. Thanks—TripWire ^ʞlɐʇ 07:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016

Hello, I'm MBlaze Lightning. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 07:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

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March 2016

Your recent editing history at Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 09:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@MBlaze Lightning

Just received your message so undone the edit.

But you are not even discussing on Talk page nor going through the sources.

@Towns Hill: You need to gain consensus amongst editors, if there is a dispute and not blatantly undo the users who reverts you. You have already violated three-revert rule, so keep in mind, the next time you see yourself being reverted by other editors, discuss the issue at talk page and, not across multiple edit summaries. It's OK i have seen your message at talk page, i'll try replying to it in evening (as i have some urgent work to do), till then, do not make any Further changes/or revert. Thank You! MBlaze Lightning (talk) 10:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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WP:WIKIHOUNDING

Hi, please familiarise yourself with WP:WIKIHOUNDING. I feel like you might have been a victim of wikihounding as I see a certain editor might have been following your edits. If that is the case, you might want to remedy this situation as I feel that nobody should be made to endure such behavior. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown

Could you please explain in a summary how I should go through this process?Towns Hill (talk) 01:28, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016

Your recent editing history at Indian Army shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 12:43, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction

The following sanction now applies to you:

You may make no more than one revert every 24 hours to a page within the India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan topic area for a period of 1 month, subject to the standard exceptions.

You have been sanctioned due to repeated edit warring

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. slakr^\ talk / 02:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Multiple barnstars for you

		The Multiple Barnstar
		You have earned them by your excellent work on Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan articles, keep up the good work. Do not get deterred from doing the right thing, the right way! There are editors looking to block you from improving the encyclopedia, keep an eye out for them! Thanks! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown Thanks (bhai). I really appreciate it. I think you should also take a more proactive role yourself in making this encyclopaedia a neutral place of balanced information.Towns Hill (talk) 08:18, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Talk page etiquette

Hi Towns Hill, Glad to see that you came back. I thought you might get disheartened after that massive revert.

Can you please follow the guidelines of talk pages as described at WP:TPHELP? Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 22:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Also, please keep your posts short and to-the-point. When many issues need to be discussed, put them in bullet points or subsections. Multiple paragraphs in a single post are normally to be avoided. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 22:52, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

It wasn't very clever to revert RegentsPark, who is a highly respected admin. Please remember that you are already under an ARBIPA sanction. The next sanction will be much more severe. You should engage on the talk page, as you are doing, but wait for consensus to develop. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

edit warring

Uhhh... aren't you under a 1RR restriction on anything related to India and Pakistan, which would include Bangladesh Liberation War article? Here's your chance to self revert.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:17, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

@Volunteer Marek: I haven't reverted anything. I have only restored Bina D'Costa's work, Rudolf Russel's work, Anthony Mascarenhas quote has been provided and referenced to an academic journal and subsequent sourced info on Pakistan's Islamisation has been re-added. The rest of your revert is left as it is.

Also it is very telling that you chose this moment to cut out the information we had agreed upon earlier (the Bina D'Costa reference in the article's intro).Towns Hill (talk) 23:28, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, and that's a revert. And you've done it several times. I think you've broken 3RR, nevermind 1RR. Like I said, you really should self-revert.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:37, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

@Volunteer Marek: That is not a revert. That is a new edit. I have in my new edit re-added the info we had agreed upon earlier, readded Rudolf Russel's statistics and changed the reference from Sarmila Bose to Anthony Mascarenhas.

And you still have not explained why you cut out the info we had agreed upon previously (from Bna D'Costa). I will answer that for you. You are using this opportunity to censor sourced facts which are not of your liking.Towns Hill (talk) 23:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. You're under 1RR and you reverted 3 times.Volunteer Marek (talk) 00:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Volunteer Marek: In other words you admit to being an opportunist. Hence it doesn't matter to you that you are using this opportunity to cut out information we had agreed upon earlier (Bina D'Costa reference).

Secondly, what I have done is not classified as a revert. Its called a new edit.

Revert is when you restore previous version which I have not done. I have merely edited some of the info from the previous versions and re-added previously agreed upon information.

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Volunteer Marek (talk) 00:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 60 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Drmies (talk) 00:20, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I think you should also take a look into how Volunteer Marek is taking liberty of my blockage to cut out whole sourced sections of information (he has already cut out the 'Violence against Biharis' section from the 1971 Bangladesh Genocide page as well as the 'Violence against Bengali supporters of Pakistan' section even though the former section existed on the article even before my presence on Wikipedia). The reason being simply that he wants to censor sourced facts which are not of his liking. And my 60 hour ban is like a golden handshake for him. Towns Hill (talk) 00:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Well, if you hadn't gotten yourself blocked, you could have done something about it. As for his "censoring sourced facts", I could consider that comment a personal attack. Drmies (talk) 01:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
• @Towns Hill: Dude, it's just 60 hours, chill out and accept the block, refrain from personal attacks. You should have been careful, you were under 1RR and I did tell you that people are looking to get you blocked but it's still not a big deal, wait your block out and don't make any mistakes of doing IP edits or creating other user accounts. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown: Please do tell me, what is the difference between a revert and edit? Because I have made multiple edits on other (related) pages within 24 hours and they were not called reverts. And in this case, for which Volunteer Marek reported me, I did not revert, rather I made new edits which restored only some of the removed sourced information. And I am not making a personal attack, you should go and check out the conversation above. I also request you to leave a brief summary here on how to pursue the Wikihounding (is that what its called) process so that upon being unblocked I can go through the civilized procedure of dealing with wiki-hounding people.Thank you.Towns Hill (talk) 04:08, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown I also have to confess I feel disappointed in you because of your thinking I would made IP edits or other accounts (subsequently telling me not to do so as if I need instruction in this manner). That indicates a lack of trust. I felt trusted but now feel disappointed. Towns Hill (talk) 05:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Dude, you are just angry. Just chill it out. I know how you feel. Just to give you an idea, a revert means re-adding the same content so if you did that twice (like first using the undo button to undo your original edit and then re-added the 'same' content manually once it was removed by another user, you'll end up with 2 x reverts). I am not sure about your edits being referred by VM, if you can give me the diffs, I may explain it to you better. Thanks—TripWire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡  ^ʞlɐʇ 10:36, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Towns Hill: That was a good faith brotherly advice. As I thought you being a relatively new user might make a mistake of doing either of those things and earn a longer block instead. Many new users do that when they get blocked and then they earn a longer block, he did that and look what happened to him, he got blocked indefinitely, also Drmies is an admin if he is telling you to refrain from attack and instead you continue to do so then it can earn you a longer block as well and I did not want Wikipedia to lose such a good editor like yourself. You already fell into a trap and I did not want that to happen again. Please see this about what I was talking about when I say people are looking to block you. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:59, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• "new edits which restored only some of the removed sourced information"...yeah, that's a revert. Drmies (talk) 16:10, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Indo-Pakistani War of 1947. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
Let me remind you that you are under 1RR. If I see you continue to edit-war, I will ask for it to be tightened to 0RR. Kautilya3 (talk) 12:53, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: We are currently discussing on Talk.Towns Hill (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

1RR Vio.

You know, you have violated 1RR again ([1], [2]) How about a self-revert? MBlaze Lightning -talk! 10:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I moved this to an relevant section, but you reverted it again. I suggest you to do a self-revert now. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 10:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

More POV pushing

The article Bangladesh Liberation War is under full-protection due to an edit war that you have initiated. It is not proper to go and insert the same contentious content on another page Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, while the content is being discussed on the former's talk page. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Kautilya3 The user also violated 1RR here but a obvious tag-teaming by Sherrif reinstated his version again. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 11:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@MBlaze: I did not violate 1RR, I reverted as you asked me to. SheriffIsInTown took his own decision, no tagging.Towns Hill (talk) 11:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: I don't think that is correct though, i see that he tried to improve the article by adding sourced content. Edit-war was started when Ghatus removed a big chunk of sourced information. Calling something POV pushing by POV pushers does not make it POV pushing. Please refrain from such language. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

RegentsPark looked through the content, found it problematic, and froze the article, asking everybody to talk it out. Inserting the same content that is under discussion in another article is no good. I think the short-term blocks are not helping. When the block lifts, the same behaviour is again continued. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:28, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@Towns Hill: You were informed by Kautilya yesterday again about 1RR and today you violated your 1RR restriction, knowing the fact that the next block will be more severe. You did not did Self-revert by your own, you were told by me. Anyway, Self revert or not, this looks like a clear 1RR vio. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 11:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

SheriffIsInTown, And what was this? WP:HOUNDING or Tag-Teaming because what i can see is that, you have made no edit to 1971 Bangladesh genocide in past. MBlaze Lightning -talk! 11:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Open your eyes and check the page history again! I will take you to ANI if you make such an accusation again! I do not wikihound opponents like you do, there are at least 5 pages on which you followed Towns Hill. I edited this page before Towns Hill did and before you followed him there. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 12:09, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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POV editing

Hi Towns Hill, I was disappointed to see this edit of yours. The standards of verifiability and NPOV are the same across Wikipedia, and the content should be described the same way on all the pages. Wikipedia is not a blog site and it is not meant for pushing any specific point of view. - Kautilya3 (talk) 10:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: I corrected the facts, such as Bangladesh genocide being reson for declaration of independence was inaccurate. It should be replaced by Operation Searchlight, which was the cause of independence declaration. I also substituted previous sources from Sarmila Bose to other academics and included what they had to say (including Rose and Sisson). I also said that in Bangladesh it was described as a 'Liberation war' and in Pakistan as a 'civil war', thus providing both perspectives side by side. It does not make sense to call it straight out a 'Bangladesh Liberation War' on a Pakistan page. Thats like calling it a Pakistani Civil War on the 'Bangladesh' page.Towns Hill (talk) 11:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I am mainly objecting to what you said, viz., that on the Pakistan page, "Bangladesh liberation war" should be called something else. But, in general, the information here should be consistent with the Bangladesh Liberation War page, which should be the main article for this content. I am pinging Vinegarymass911 to review your edit for consistency. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

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Mblazes Meat puppey Kautilya

[3] Watch out my friend the Indian pov pushers are canvassing sympathetic admins to let socks of the hook keep an eye out and inform neutral admins (if you know any). 5.71.178.216 (talk) 15:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown @Tripwire: Coulld you guys please tell me what ths means? I don't really understand what either the IP and Kautilya3 are saying.Towns Hill (talk) 21:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, the IP (who is himself apparently a sock of some banned user, I think I know who) is claiming that I am a "meatpuppet" of MBlaze, i.e., I am supposedly doing MBlaze's work for him by defending his edits, apparently under his directions. I think it was TripWire who called me that originally, and the IP fell in love with the term. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 01:26, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

@Towns Hill: It's your talk page, you can just remove that section from your page. People should not be using your talk page to talk to eachother. They have their own pages to do that. I would not say anymore on this. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Kautilya3 instead of toiling here, if you want to accuse me of something, do it properly. Go to SPI or ANI, the only thing you are apparently good at. BTW Towns Hill, I agree with Sheriff's suggestion.—TripWire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡  ^ʞlɐʇ 20:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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• Hey, Towns Hill, what does that mean is basically you read the text from the source and then reword it when entering into the article. Try to use your own words. You cannot use exact word to word text from the source. Hope that clarifies. Just trying to help out. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:14, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Domel

Hi Towns Hill, there is no wikipage on Domel. Should there be one? Is it a suburb of Muzaffarabad? Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 00:50, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi there @Kautilya3! Domail is actually a neighbourhood, not suburb. Its a big part of Muzaffarabad. Its situated between Jhelum River and Airport Road. There doesn't seem to be a reason to not have an article. There are already articles on mohallas in other cities so it sounds like a good idea to me, but I am not sure if there are enough sources on the internet to make an article about it.Towns Hill (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, good. That is what I inferred from Google Maps. It is probably a good idea to make a section on it in the Muzaffarabad page because it figures prominently in the Kashmir conflict articles. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016

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I notice that Diannaa has already warned you about this. Please follow the instructions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:21, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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Edit warring again

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kashmir conflict. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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You are barely coming off an ARBIPA sanction. You should not be reinstating edits repeatedly without reaching consensus on the talk page. Pinging RegentsPark to advise you. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

An additional comment: The normal practice for resolving disputes is WP:BRD. When an edit is made, it can be reverted by anybody, following which a discussion needs to happen.

When I see a problem with an editor that I know well (such as you), I open a discussion without reverting. That is an extra courtesy I extend as a friend. I do a revert only when the discussion goes dead. Your repeated reinstatement without consensus is aggressive posturing, which I find quite unwelcome. In future, I will follow BRD with you, because I don't see my friendliness reciprocated. - Kautilya3 (talk) 11:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Kashmir conflict restrictions

Please see Talk:Kashmir_conflict#Editing_Restrictions--regentspark (comment) 17:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Just a note

You are allowed to remove any notices from your talk page which you do not have any need to keep for! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 09:23, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

3RR

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You're at three reverts (I'm assuming that was an accident). The source is not reliable. There is no consensus to add this. Don't edit war. Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:50, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction 2

The following sanction now applies to you:

Banned from the topic of conflicts between India and Pakistan and from anything to do with Bangladesh.

You have been sanctioned due to a pattern of edit warring about the events of 1971, including the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. See your talk page for past warnings, including my post of 6 March. This ban may be appealed in six months.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

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(talk page stalker)@EdJohnston: May I ask what led you to make this decision? Can you please outline what specifically this editor did to invite this wrath? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:44, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@EdJohnston: [I might live to regret this, but here it goes....] I find Towns Hill's editing valuable. He has found good new sources and brought them to the table. He has initiated discussion on controversial issues. Personally, I find it quite valuable to have a well-informed editor with an opposite POV just to keep my own views in check. It is just that Towns_Hill hasn't yet understood the value of consensus-building and has unfortunately come under the influence of ultra-nationalistic POV pushing that has been gripping Wikipedia this year.

I think an indefinite topic ban for Towns_Hill would be a loss to Wikipedia. I would recommend a weaker sanction, e.g., 0RR for two months and 1RR afterwards, reviewable after 6 months. This would allow him to learn how to achieve consensus through discussion.

I would also encourage him and all other editors to join WP:INDOPAK and live up to its spirit by cooperating rather than endless fighting. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:44, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: why did you create his user page for him? _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 17:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

It is hoped that Towns Hill will some day return to editing these topics. But the current problems with the 1971 conflict mean we will probably have to issue more than one topic ban. There are two ARBIPA issues currently open at WP:AE and they are both related to the 19Towns_Hill 02:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)71 conflict. Regarding Towns Hill, I had already left him a final warning in March. It does not seem to have led to any improvement. EdJohnston (talk) 17:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

This user is edit warring, socking with IPs [4], [5] and attacking other editors. Pinging Volunteer Marek here. He has been warned enough times (just look at his TP's past warnings including one by EdJohnston). Most Importantly, he is pushing OR, fringe theory and over the top POV from months. These articles are covered by ARBIPA. Just take a look at 1971 TP [6] He was hurling accusations and attacking other uninvolved editors "Volunteer Marek: You must be living in some nationalist fantasy land that the world thinks of the conflict as solely a genocide of Bengalis." etc odious personal attacks. I don't have enough time to dig his past history but certainly he was trying to convert NPOV articles into POV COATRACK (that matches with his Pro-Pakistan POV) --ArghyaIndian (talk) 17:07, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: I am extremely disheartened and I am now thinking about leaving Wikipedia for good due to the level of harassment I have experienced at the hands of pro-Indian POV editors since joining Wikipedia, which was unprecedented. You can see how Volunteer Marek himself was employing terrible language like the term 'bullshit' when reverting my edits (on the history revision pages of 1971 genocide page). I tried co-operating in showing the other POV (which was not mine) by talking about role of extremist Muslims in perpetrating atrocities but it seems my co-operation was not appreciated and the pro-Indian POV editors are dead-set on including the figures (eg: 3 million killed) despite acknowledging it as dubious (and it is also a figure now universally regarded as excessively inflated). In contrast they want to exclude the lower estimates of Bengalis killed (both the figure of 26,000 [which came from an official government commission headed by a Bengali judge] and 300,000) and are intent on excluding all Pakistani higher estimates of Biharis killed (500,000 from Qutbuddin Aziz- a source who R J Rummel took into account when coming to his own estimate of Biharis killed. R J Rummel is also used quite extensively as a source on the 1971 genocide page).Towns_Hill 02:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

The WP:RSN can be used if there is diagreement about quality of sources. This does require some patience to discuss things. Though there is some poor behavior by more than one party, admins don't have time to oversee all quarrels. Since you'd been warned earlier in the year it seemed it was time for you to be working more actively for consensus. Nationalist areas require so much diplomacy that it may seem to be exhausting, and I can see how you might lose patience. But without such diplomacy, it is hard to make any progress that will last. When people just keep reverting they are likely to attract topic bans. Before admins are all done with handling the 1971 disputes, more topic bans may be needed. EdJohnston (talk) 04:17, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

So the guy who tried to achieve consensus by deliegetly engaging at talk pages gets taopic banned, but the ones who frustrated him and caused him to commit mistakes go scot free? Why is it that only editors on one side of the fence are always at fault? His tak-page is full of warnigs sure it is as he would have comitted mistakes but he alone against socks, IPs and meat-puppets together couldnt stand a chance. What surprises me is that his talk-page warnings are seen by all, but those (tag-teamers) who caused him to go beyond are still doing it.—TripWire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡  ^ʞlɐʇ 10:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Quite so. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 10:35, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak!

Eid Mubarak! آپ کو اور آپ کے گھر والوں کو دل کی اتھاہ گہرائیوں سے عید کی خوشیاں بہت بہت مبارک۔

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@Diannaa

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I wish to apologise for infringing the copyright policies. I don't believe I have too much experience but I do promise to commit myself to not committing further violations of this policy. It is also quite difficult to keep memory of previous warnings due to the difficult layout and complex processes on Wikipedia. Towns_Hill 04:22, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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you have stated you understand and intend to follow Wikipedia's copyright policy in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:46, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

General advice: Content has to be written in your own words and not inclusive of the source material at all. It's been suggested that not so much as three words should be together in the same order as the source. One thing I find that works for me is to read over the source material and then pretend I am verbally describing the topic to a friend in my own words. Stuff should also be presented in a different order where possible. Summarize rather than paraphrase. This will typically result in your version being much shorter than the source document. There's some reading material on this topic at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and/or have a look at the material at Purdue. Please feel free to ask me via email if you are stuck and are not sure how to effectively re-word a passage. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:46, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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