User talk:Muboshgu

They said it on the game yesterday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maguires12 (talk • contribs) 01:44, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Cylex page

Hi I was wondering if its possible to get back the Cylex company page. I am a beginner Wiki editor and I want to do it right. I also understand that maybe I am not fully neutral about this topic but as I see nobody will ever want to create a wikipedia page about this.

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:2021 world weries

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Just noticed, why did these notices go here? To an admin's talk page? - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 07:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

AssumeGoodWraith, is there a way to opt out of them? I don't really care. They're usually useful info. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Now that I checked, I think Twinkle sent the template to you because you moved it back. I don’t think there’s a way to opt out, but I could just simply not send the templates. - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 23:48, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kushner family

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Since the other discussion was marked closed

Hello.

I meant to say thank you for the info on the use of "transgendered." Noted.

Regarding common names and page titles, it really does feel as though we have perplexingly inconsistent treatment across the project. It occurred to me when revisiting redirects such as heart attack and Zoloft. Maybe there's some esoteric exception for medical terms, who knows. :-)

But what really boggles my mind is that the user interface here now says "watch this page [ permanent ]" instead of "permanently". --MZMcBride (talk) 22:22, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

MZMcBride, glad to help re terminology. As far as the medical items go, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles does lay out different rules for article titles. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Deleted pages to drafts

Regarding your view that moving a page post-AfD to draftspace would need the AfD closure to mention draftify, is that your personal preference, or is it standard practice? Jay (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Jay, it's my standard practice, though probably more from personal preference. I see it as, in the worst case scenario, an attempt to get around a deletion decision. Though surely many such editors making these requests do want to make good faith improvements. When in doubt, ask the deleting admin their thoughts. I'll do that. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I did not act on Pathan (film) yet. I haven't done a move to draftspace before, and have asked for advice at User_talk:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js#Move_deleted_article_to_draft. Jay (talk) 10:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Jay, I can do it. The easiest way is to restore it and then move it to draft space without leaving a redirect. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Really disappointed with you as an administrator

So because I'm having an issue with one person, or probably another one, that is undoing my edits for no reasonalbe grounds, I'm subject to being blocked despite my genuine and honest contributions. I doubt you even went through my comment above, to come and be threatening me like this. Anyway I'm just trying to contribute to society, so please don't threaten me, OK. All I have been doing is help. You can even go through my edit history and even on Commons and see how much I have contributed here. I'm just really disappointed, especially the way you handlle issues as an administrator. Hassanjalloh1 (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Hassanjalloh1, you are subject to being blocked for edit warring. Edit warring is unacceptable even if your contributions are "genuine and honest", even if you are trying to help. You in fact violated the three revert rule on Julius Maada Bio and I can block you for that. Ask any other admin and I'm sure they'll tell you that I've been kind and generous to you given your behavior today. Keep engaged in discussion and if consensus tells you not to do what you're doing, respect it. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I understand all this, and I posted a lengthy explanation to justify my edits - I doubt you even read through it. But I don't have much to say anymore. You're the administrator here... Hassanjalloh1 (talk) 18:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Hassanjalloh1, I read it. I understand your point of view, though I personally do not have an opinion on the inclusion of the seals. I appreciate that you're communicating with other editors. Maybe you can reach an understanding with them. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad you try to understand my point of view. I was never doing it because I thought it was fashionable. My reasons were genuine. I did it, I tested it and it worked, and then I decided to apply it across, then one editor took it as "spamming". Like I said, I don't have much to do about it, because it was just one person, or probably two, that was actually undoing all my edits throughout. It was not like many people where againast it. Well sometimes you just try as best as you can. Thanks for the concern. Hassanjalloh1 (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Assassination of Malcolm X

Hello, Muboshgu. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Assassination of Malcolm X".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Muboshgu,

It feels very strange leaving you one of these Twinkle messages. But if you feel like reviving this draft, you know what to do! Stay well. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I went ahead and restored it. It seems obvious that we should have an article on this, as there is substantial coverage specifically directed to the event. BD2412 T 21:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Liz and BD2412:, I recall at one point suggesting on Talk:Malcolm X that the topic should probably be spun out to its own article, but got no traction there and I just sort of let the idea go. And don't worry, I don't mind the Twinkle messages. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I probably just should have gone ahead and postponed it myself but sometimes these messages can serve the purpose of reminding page creators that drafts are still out there. It is easy to be busy with regular activities and forget about a page you worked on months ago. As someone who spends much of the day looking at stale drafts, this one was in better shape that 99.99% of the ones I normally see. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Liz, I can't take too much credit for it, a lot of it was copy/pasted from Malcolm X#Assassination. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

This turned out to be amazingly timely! BD2412 T 20:05, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

BD2412, I know! I saw that article come out and I wondered if you had some inside knowledge it was coming! It really was just a coincidence given the six month timing for G13. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Yep. Eerie timing. BD2412 T 20:25, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Yup, very eerie. I saw this pop up in my watchlist yesterday, and didn't pay any attention to it, then heard about the exonerations today and thought, huh? So I had to look here again, and saw it was coincidental. But it was very prescient that an article was ready to go. And people say Wikipedia is irrelevant. Pshah! We're on the cutting edge! BilCat (talk) 21:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Muniz M-11

Please restore as a challenged prod. I believe production of this continued rdessignated as the CNNA HL-1 but I'm still looking into it. It has entries in several Brazilian aviation encyclopaedias. SpinningSpark 21:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Spinningspark,  Done Please add some sources. It could be nominated for deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Question about sourcing for you

I included three RS explicitly describing Paul Gosar as "far right," but Bill Williams produced ten RS that do not explicitly describe Gosar as such. Is that lack of a descriptor considered the same as saying he's not "far right," and thus the ten sources prevail and the three sources should be removed? Or should the ten RS be treated as silent and neutral on the issue, and the three RS should remain? If 1000 sources don't mention Biden is a moderate Democrat for every one that does, should we not call him a moderate Democrat? soibangla (talk) 21:54, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Soibangla, I don't think that the omission of the label is evidence that he doesn't meet the label. It may be better to focus on why he's been referred to as far-right than worry too much about the label. Could also be a good question for WP:BLP/N. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:57, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Soibangla decided to use OR[1] to call 45 Republican representatives far-right when that is not what most reliable sources generally refer to them as, then he called me wrong[2] instead of providing further evidence, after which he virtually laughed at me[3] instead of actually discussing it on the talk page with me. I am not saying that he is not far-right, but putting it a few words into the article implies it is a significant portion of what is used to describe him, which it is not, only being occasionally used. It could go further in the body but certainly not a few words into the lead. Bill Williams 22:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I didn't raise this issue to gripe and snipe with you. Please reconsider the tone of your comment. This played out exactly as I figured it might when I opted to loop you in with this rather than asking a generic hypothetical. If I wanted to engage complaints about you, I'd come to your Talk page. soibangla (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

You called me wrong and then laughed at me... Bill Williams 23:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Bill Williams, in case you two can't come to an agreement, then I definitely recommend discussing it at BLP/N, especially since its an issue that goes beyond Gosar's page. Terms like "far left" and "far right" can be applied to many biographies. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I wanted to bounce it off you just to get an initial take on it to see if it warrants a wider discussion. I think I'll take to BLP/N. soibangla (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree, I have stated before that according to soibangla's logic, some reliable sources calling The Squad "far-left" would mean they have that in their leads, which would be undue considering it isn't even in the body of the articles. Bill Williams 23:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

A discussion on BLP/N could be helpful though, thanks for the advice. Bill Williams 23:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Good discussion so far. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Julio Lugo

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Bots and false

I wonder if a bot could be tasked with guarding key words like false, etc.? -- Valjean (talk) 06:59, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Yankees

After how many years on this thing and I still don't know how to add someone to the 40 man who doesn't have their own wiki page and have it redirect to their blurb on the minor league players page. I got all the ex-Yanks off the page but the new 40-man guys will need adding and that's where I am stuck. Kjscotte34 (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Kjscotte34, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donny_Sands&redirect=no as an example of how to make it redirect to the section. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:20, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Doug Jones (baseball)

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