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Sorry to hear

Hello Doug Weller. I read the infobox saying you have cancer. I hope you no longer have cancer or if you still do that it goes away and you recover. My best wishes. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Thinker78 very kind of you. I'm having chemotherapy and hopefully will be able to have liver surgery and that my scan after chemo will show no other cancers. Doug Weller talk 15:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I will keep you in my mind, I hope everything comes out well for you. Here are some relevant videos you may find helpful from a chiropractor that provides nice health info that if you find useful you may discuss with your doctor. Thinker78 (talk) 15:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Thinker78, chiropractic doctors are not real doctors. Please don't share youtube channels of pretend doctors on Wikipedia. Please self-redact. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:14, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

You were one of the first administrators I saw when I originally discovered talk pages in 2017. I hope you win this battle. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

What a cute puppy!

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Came here to say the exact same thing. I am very sorry to hear of this, and I do hope things start to improve very soon for you. Patient Zero^talk 22:05, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I join the others in wishing you the very best in your dealing with this DW. MarnetteD|Talk 22:22, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Get well soon! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks all. Doug Weller talk 19:07, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to hear this Doug. The evidence seems inconclusive but I know a number of sports scientists say broccoli (sulforaphane) and turmeric has powerful anti-canceral effects. Wish you all the best and hope the liver op deals with it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Broccoli-family veggies may have some preventative activity, but no one should rely on them to be curative. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Dearest Doug, I've just gone through another round of scans etc: waiting for results was the worse time for me. Luckily, my latest round was negative. Fingers, toes still crossed! Thinking of you and best regards. As ever, David, David J Johnson (talk) 21:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@David J Johnson@Dr. Blofeld@MarnetteD@NewsAndEventsGuy@Tryptofish Late reply. Sorry, lack of sleep and other things, feeling a bit better today but dreading tomorrow's heat wave, first Emergency heatwave alert for England ever! Turmeric, yes, should make some turmeric bread. Broccoli, well, my chemotherapy treatment has given me some anti-nauseous drugs, but even then...:) David, I'm so pleased to hear that your scans came back negative. Here's hoping for mine (well, that they show nothing more than the liver tumours and they've shrunk or at least can be operated on). Of course, although I feel better today, I've developed something new, left foot plantar fasciitis. Rains, pours. Doug Weller talk 14:28, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

We're all rooting for you and the desired scans Dave! I don't envy your weather forecast. Give me extreme cold over extreme heat any day. I wonder if turmeric and other vaso-dilating spices help with thermal regulation when its really hot? Seems plausible anyway. In kind of a fun full circle irony, if I'm out for long periods below -20C I've sometimes sprinkled cayenne pepper in my gloves and socks for the same reason, only then its trying to keep my digits warm, whereas I guess you'll be trying to keep your core cool. Happy sweating, both literally and figuratively NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:48, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, an 80% chance of reaching 40 degrees they say, 43 oC in East Anglia? Hotter than Egypt! It was 45oC one day in Turkey in the mid 90s! Sodium Bicarbonate is another one which I know been discussed, cancers are acidic and it alkalizes the body. I actually take Himalayan salt, sodium bicarbonate, turmeric and Cayenne pepper and lemon when I feel a cold coming and it is very effective, not had a full blown cold since 2015! Your turmeric cake sounds appetizing BTW! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:05, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld and I was just reading the UK Parkinson’s Facebook page and some were saying that the heat was already causing them nausea. Doug Weller talk 19:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld meant to ask the recipe for your cold cure, I’ve got the ingredients. Doug Weller talk 19:09, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I use roughly a teaspoon of each and a fair amount of lemon juice with water, a little less salt though, maybe 3/4 of a spoon if you can manage it. You can also add honey and ginger. The salt is pretty hideous but the turmeric and cayenne make it a bit better. You'll wince but it's blocked every cold since I discovered it in 2015! Very powerful. I usually only need to do it once but twice within 24 hrs occasionally. The pink salt contains 84 different minerals and is one of the most nutritious things on the planet believe it or not! I've experimented a lot over the years and very few supplements worked for me long term, there's a lot of bullshit online. Those and Alpha-GPC as a cognitive enhancer for me are genuine, though everybody is different. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Cold is good, I've rarely had a problem with cold. Doug Weller talk 16:50, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

I have long had plantar fasciitis myself. I got prescription orthotics (shoe inserts that sit in the bottom of the shoe, below your foot), and they work like a miracle. Depending on your healthcare system, either a podiatrist or an orthopedic surgeon is who you see for them. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Hoping to organise more orthotics tomorrow, free on the NHS and I haven't had any since covid. Doug Weller talk 16:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

That got me thinking. So orthotics are paid free in the UK. Here in the US, despite mine being prescribed by a physician and my having about the best health care insurance policy available here, I had to pay for them myself, $450.00. God bless capitalism. Anyway, be well! --Tryptofish (talk) 16:55, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

At least you got one. I met someone in the US who couldn’t get one and ended up in a mental hospital? Doug Weller talk 19:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

My plantar fasciitis went away after my work place moved to a third-floor location and I started taking the stairs instead of the lift. I've been gone from there for 19 years and no sign of a relapse. - Donald Albury 20:53, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Donald Albury good to hear. Maybe I should go up and down our stairs more! Doug Weller talk 16:51, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

YoPienso (talk) has given you balloons! Balloons are meant to uplift the morale of people with an illness, and has hopefully made your day a little better. Spread good health by giving someone else who is a bit ill a balloon.

Spread the good health by adding {{subst:Balloons}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

I've long valued your friendly demeanor, wise decisions, and high-quality edits. YoPienso (talk) 19:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Very sorry to hear it, DW. I hope you get better soon. Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks. I think after the chemo and the weather is cooler I will be. Doug Weller talk 16:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@ Aw, I'm blushing. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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RamzyM (WMF) 01:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

you warned me about attacking other editors.

The editors I think you're referring to have been gatekeeping the biography of David Paulides for years. They've literally been maintaining a page dedicated to hatred of the subject of the biography. I was trying to convey to them that maybe it's time to let go of their stranglehold. I know I wasn't nice about it. I realize that Anarchist has been a wikipedia editor for a many years. I'm sorry but his behavior on this particular biography is reprehensible. Every editor who has tried to ammend the bio back to the simple truth of the original page, to say the most basic facts of the person in the bio, every single effort is immediately reverted back to the disgraceful lies certain editors have been perpetrating for so long. I'm not exaggerating. It seems such a simple thing to simply tell the truth, yet it's been impossible, and the biography remains far beyond BLP. I apologize for my own words, and I promise to guard my tongue and my temper from now on, but even if it's against wikipedia's definition of good faith, I sincerely apologize, but I'm not ashamed of saying those things to people who have told nothing but blatant lies and guarded over them to make sure no one can make the bio right. If you can aid in some kind of resolution, I believe it would be for the improvement of wikipedias biography. thank you very much for reading this and for your time and consideration. I'm not new, but I really am because I don't know much and am learning, but I also see this situation as important.

I've been asked too many times if I have a conflict of interest. I don't know the subject of the bio, any of his friends, family, acquaintance, work associates. I live at least five states away from him. I don't know him at all. I have no stake in this. Again, thank you so much. MikiBishop (talk) 08:11, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

@MikiBishop you are still making personal attacks. This can't continue and if you do it again I'll block you from the article and its talk page, at least. Doug Weller talk 09:11, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

That's fine, Doug, It looks like I won't be able to stay at wikipedia much longer. I've made one comment, and that was a message for Susan only, - Sgerbic - who is a good person. She's mature, very kind, and willing to help new people. She's knowledgeable, and wikipedia, instead of trusting her and giving her some freedom, she has to jump through even more hoops now when she's already jumped through so many hoops in these many years she's been so loyal to wikipedia. Isn't she an administrator yet?

Anarchist is probably the only one powerful enough to turn that bio around, so I wonder why he isn't more inspired in his role at wikipedia to be a force for the good in everything he works on. I just don't think the answer to keeping the best people in line is transparency instead of trust, and for the "newbies," negative threats like 'straighten up or be blocked' when they reach out to you for help.

Why are the rest of the people working on that page so motivated toward the negative? Maybe something is wrong with the way wikipedia handles people. wikipedia can't blame it on the individuals not being nice enough all of the time. Editors start out here and their only contact for guidance from higher-ups is some verbal abuse for doing things the wrong way.

Anyway, goodbye. Wikipedia is becomming massively powerful in the world, like it's gotten a huge bump upward now. I with it wouldn't squander the opportunity MikiBishop (talk) 22:21, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

WTF? "Powerful enough"? (And my username isn't "Anarchist".) I have no more "power" than anybody else. And honestly, the David Paulides page gets my attention only because it happens to be one of the thousands of pages on my watchlist. I am not particularly interested in the subject, and the article seems to me to be in good shape. When someone comes in for the purpose of whitewashing it, I notice. That's all.

MikiBishop has done some questionable things here, like insisting no knowledge of the subject yet disclosing personal contact with the subject on WP:TEAHOUSE, removing statements cited to a verifiable and reliable source, accusing others of saying the subject was "arrested" when the word never appeared anywhere, claiming wrongly that California public employee compensation is private and requires payment to access... and I kind of stopped paying attention after that. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:39, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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You're a shining light around here

	Sophie Tucker says so
	I couldn't think of what to do so and wanted to do something to cheer you up so I went and found some refs. And a pic. Here's to better days - Shearonink (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

I Second That Emotion. Cullen328 (talk) 02:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

And Herbert Hoover's dog agrees...

And, well, Herbert Hoover's dog said if Sophie and Smokey Robinson and the MIRACLES + The Supremes are going to hang out at Doug's page I should be there too. Well, Herbert Hoover's dog actually said "WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!" but it was translated by Google Translate. Here's to your complete healing and to all your great doctors and nurses and only the very best medicine, Doug. - Shearonink (talk) 02:55, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hear, hear. Take care Doug. Drmies (talk) 02:56, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks everyone, you've no idea how much this means to me and buoys me up. Doug Weller talk 14:36, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hear, hear. Couldn't agree more. I last logged in back in the Pleistocene, iirc, but wanted to say that although WP had loads of great contributors and a lot of truly great admins, I always thought, when I was actively contributing, that you and Ed Johnston were top drawer, crème de la crème, the bees knees ... Just the best, IOW. I'm so grateful for your amazing work here, Doug! Kudos, and thank you, so much! --OhioStandard (talk) 09:02, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

"dl material sourced to Lương Ninh, as before, noting that this could even be the author as edits are coming from IPs in Ho Chi Minh city"

Prof Lương Ninh passed away already in 2020 and the funeral was held on 15 Sept 2020 in Hanoi. So basically he is not able to make edits in Wikipedia in 2022.

I strongly recommend you to make comments purely about the book's quality and the accuracy of the information, rather than make personal insults and baseless accusations. Thank you and wish you a good day. 2402:800:6315:E15F:CCF6:F44B:4249:3149 (talk) 09:19, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

That was just a guess. So it's being done by supporters. I've already commented on the book's quality as have others. We need specialist sources, not generalist, and the book isn't even reliably published. Doug Weller talk 09:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

It is being done by someone who "support" the intepretation of the book purely as a reader and have no connection of interest or whatsoever with the author. Your "guess" can be very hurtful and impolite to other people because it is basically groundless accusation about other's personality and private life without any evidences. The accusation of publishing issues is weird, too, because the book is neither self-published nor issued by predatury publisher.

So I would like to request you to not make unneccessary comments beyond the boundary of criticisms and concerns about the accuracy and quality of the content presented, especially "guess" which can be perceived as personal insult. 171.249.226.243 (talk) 16:04, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I said possibly officially published by the government I think. Anyway, this is finished. We aren't going to use the book and I'm not the only one who has said it isn't reliable for Egyptology. Doug Weller talk 16:48, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Joshua Project

Hi there! I replied to a reversion comment you left on my user page about my Joshua Project article edit. If you could get back to me soon that would be great! JuxtaposedJacob (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Important Notices

You posted two "Important Notice" messages to my talk page. What are they in reference to? --Nbauman (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Nbaumanjust read them, they make it pretty clear what they are about. Doug Weller talk 15:18, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hotter than Miami

It looks like it is way hotter for you these days than it ever was when we were both in Miami all those years ago. Definitely not what you need under present circumstances. Stay as cool as you can. - Donald Albury 15:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Donald Albury at least it's not humid, I really couldn't stand that. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:19, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

thanks, I've been wondering about UK wet bulb temps, but despite advocacy in many public health sources wet bulb temps are not routine in weather journalism. Thank God it's low humidity! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

It does get used, eg [2] But I don’t see it more or less ever. Doug Weller talk 20:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, the pros care; I should have said out loud I was talking about the routine weather report, at least the kind culturally engrained in the USA TV/radio audience. Although over here we do sometimes hear about something called the "feels like" temp, which is a step in the right direction I guess. Stay cool~! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:34, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The US Weather Bureau includes heat index values in their forecasts, at least for a couple of days ahead in hot weather. Forecast here today is 91F, with a heat index as high as 102F. The humidity is high, dew point this morning (6:30 here) is only one degree below air temp, F or C. - Donald Albury 10:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@Donald Albury @NewsAndEventsGuy much cooler today. Doug Weller talk 13:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Glad you weathered the wave, and it looks like good times for sailors in a few places [3] NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:29, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

@NewsAndEventsGuy sadly I haven’t done any sailing since my Miami days. Doug Weller talk 19:21, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

well coming up soon for me day sailing will be the only thing on my planner, so one time when I shove off I'll think of you. May you find yourself casting off soon...NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:07, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I was going to say, "same here", but then I remembered that I went out on a friends sailboat in Alligator Harbor 46 years ago. - Donald Albury 23:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

IP bigot

Did you mean to block that 50.x for a year? Acroterion (talk) 11:09, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@Acroterion they've been doing that for over a year, why not? Looks stable. Doug Weller talk 11:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I agree, but I think you only blocked for 31 hours. Acroterion (talk) 11:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@Acroterion No, [4] Doug Weller talk 12:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Problem

I didn't understand what you wanted to say. Goblinbarrel000 (talk) 09:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

@Goblinbarrel000 It's a notice about an area where there have been conduct problems. It means that you have to be especially carefully to adhere to our policies and guidelines and that if you don't you can be blocked or banned from that topic area. That's all I can tell you. Doug Weller talk 10:06, 21 July 2022 (UTC)