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Memorable comments from discussions I've been in:

• I flipped a three-sided coin, it came up "no consensus". --Kbdank71 (talk) 20:32, 13 November 2006 (From a talk page discussion)
• Outline my position, which is actually built on a big pile of marbles in a game of kerplunk and the straws are slowly being pulled - Hiding (talk) 08:49, 17 November 2006 (From an edit summary)
• While the essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may be useful for other XfD discussions, it isn't as useful for CfD, due to a commonality of consistancy due to prior consensus. The guideline WP:OCAT is an excellent example of this. And the same seems true for WP:ALLORNOTHING. - jc37 17:12, 9 April 2007

  Due to a what of what due to what? Please rephrase for us simple folk. Picaroon 01:23, 12 April 2007 (From a WP:DRV discussion.)

• I think I was more involved with the fiction MOS when it was started than I am now, I have kind of given up on those sort of pages, no sooner do you get it all straight, have a few drinks to celebrate, put the chairs on the table and start mopping up than a whole new crowd walks in ready to get it all straight again. - Hiding 21:03, 2 November 2007 (from a talk page discussion)
• But in my experience, every talk page of XfD closers seems to be filled with vehemence about disagreement of a closure. Nice to know that you've managed to (mostly) somehow avoid that. ("somehow" - you'll have to loan me your special medallion sometime : ) - jc37 00:11, 6 March 2008

  It's a medallion of troll-protection +4. I looted it from a [contentious] AfD along with a masterwork ban-hammer +1, a mop of template sweeping, and 103 gold pieces. IronGargoyle (talk) 05:39, 7 March 2008

• Enjoy reading this text in context : ) (From a talk page discussion starting on 23:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC))

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Thank you

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hi Jc

Hi Jc. I am pleased to see you are active again. I missed you. I hope you are well. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for closes

Thank you for running through the Requests for Closure page. I try to close the oldest ones that my time allows but the ones that are old are generally that way because they are long, controversial, or both so I have to mentally set aside time for inevitable questions. I admire the efficiency that you were able to show today in attacking these and appreciate the activity. Thanks again. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, and happy to help : )

I too was trying to work on the older ones first, some of the 30-40 day ones appear to still be ongoing.

Thanks again : ) - jc37 18:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Thanks for your closes today at WP:ANRFC. It's nice to have admins doing closes and helping with the backlog. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Novem Linguae, very kind of you : ) - jc37 17:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

		The Admin's Barnstar
		I noticed that you've worked hard lately to provide the community the opportunity and sound choices to resolve some long-standing issues. While there may be some resistance to these offers, I think it's important that people work to find solutions when difficulties are presented. I commend you for your efforts, and I hope that any opposition to your work will not dissuade from continuing some excellent efforts. I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work over many years that you've contributed to the project. TY Jc. — Ched (talk) 16:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Wow. Thank you. It is very much appreciated. - jc37 17:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

+1 I appreciate your work as well. Thank you for your proposal, and for allowing others the opportunity to register our disagreement with the current state of affairs. Ruth Bader Ginsberg rightly said that "dissents speak to a future age", and I like to keep that in mind whenever a proposal goes the other way. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much. As I note here, I'm a friend of Don Quixote, and have been known to occasionally (to seemingly) tilt at windmills : ) - jc37 22:31, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Tambayan Philippines template

Hi Jc37, regarding your advice related to these edits, I have found that while there is no Category:Philippine History articles there is a Category:WikiProject Philippine History, I think from some ancient merger of it as a separate Wikiproject. Would restoring the removed code allow for those categories to remain intact? Thanks, CMD (talk) 11:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Nightscream

Talk:Nathan Edmondson

Hi. I've been trying to contact you, both with "pings" and with a message on the WikiProject page, about three newbie accounts that have been blanking relevant, source-supported content from the Nathan Edmondson article because it constitutes critical information about him, specifically a past arrest for credit card theft and sexual harassment allegations. They have ignored repeated warnings placed on their talk pages, as well as invitations to a talk page discussion where two other editors agreed the sexual harassment allegation material should remain, and a third agrees the credit card theft info should stay. They persistently revert the material, falsely claiming in edit summaries that the material is "vandalism", that the is sourced to "blogs" (they are not), etc. Can you please revert to the most recent intact version and lock down the article to incentivize that editor to join the discussion, and join it yourself. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 14:22, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Incivility from User:Taynix

Hi. I thought I'd let you know about this edit summary. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 19:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Need an objective viewpoint

Hi, Jc. Listen, I need your help with something. I'd like to pose to you a hypothetical scenario, one arising from a current conflict I'm embroiled in, and ask you three questions about it, as a thought experiment. I wanted to ask you because you've given good advice and counsel in the past, but have never rubber-stamped any of my positions or conduct, I figured I'd get a fairly objective answer, rather than a biased one. Are you available? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Nightscream: Jc37 has not edited since May 7. You may want to ask someone else. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery: Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 03:44, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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Re one of your closes

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 183#RFC: Pending-changes protection of Today's featured article

Are you willing to change this close? Given the result in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 178#Pending-changes protection of Today's featured article, it's clear there were (in two successive RfCs) a consensus to protect the TFA. There isn't really a good basis to discount votes when, ultimately, the discussion is about changing policy. Fair enough if it's about changing a fundamental long-standing policy, you could say that needs successive RfCs with high participation. But here we're not changing policy, and there were two successive RfCs with more or less the same result. My reading of your close is that it agrees there's a majority for full semi-protection implementation, but you disagreed it amounts to a consensus for more than a trial due to the inertia of extant policy. I don't think that's correct, but the inconvenience of having to run a third RfC wouldn't really outweigh the efforts in making a close challenge except that it seems to have discouraged technical admins sufficiently such that nobody is implementing the close, thus making the entire RfC moot.

To be clear, I'm not really saying the close should be changed because people are unwilling to implement your decision as-is. I'm saying IMO the reading was incorrect, but not worth appealing in itself, but since people aren't willing to implement that reading it's now worth challenging. Basically, would you update your close to drop the 'trial' provisions and recognise the "auto-semi-protection" result? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 02:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

@ProcrastinatingReader: Jc37 hasn't edited since September 24. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:16, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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I miss seeing you around Jc37. I hope you are well and I hope to see you editing again, if only to say hello from time to time. Sincerely.--John Cline (talk) 09:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Me too. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:34, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

John Cline, * Pppery *, thank you both for thinking of me : ) - jc37 08:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you!

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		Thank you so very much for reorganizing all the barnstars on WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. I always wanted to do that but didn't have any idea as to how. Judekkan (talk) 20:15, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Judekkan, Thank you very much. I do appreciate it.

As I mentioned at SilkTork's talk page, I've been meaning to do that for years but just kept putting it off. Hopefully this will make the page more accessible, and help people more easily find what they are looking for. I know that for me it had become more and more of a task to navigate that page. It was slow going, but I think it it was worth it.

And thanks again. I really do appreciate it. I hope you're having a great day too : ) - jc37 20:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Jc37 Yeah, I've tried several times to get consensus from WP:WPAwards to have the topical barnstars separated but had little response. But it was a waste of time, since I just add barnstars without consensus to WP:BARN anyways. I'm glad now that was done. I think there was several mentions about the lengthy scroll-time searching for a barnstar being an issue. Again though, thank you for fixing the biggest obstacle to WP:WPAwards. You have a nice day and have a Merry Christmas. Judekkan (talk) 20:57, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. And to you as well : ) - jc37 21:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

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I’ve been inexplicably blocked

Hi, Jc. Happy New Year.

I'm sorry to bother you, but I just saw that I cannot edit Wikipedia from my desktop computer, because it says "This IP address has been blocked from editing Wikipedia", even though I am signed into my username account, and have received no warnings or indications of any kind that any behavior on my part was being disruptive. The message I get when I try to edit says "Even when blocked, you will usually still be able to edit your user talk page and email administrators and other editor", but even this is not the case, so I had to compose this in Gmail, send it to myself, and then paste it here with my cell phone. Can you help? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC) Nightscream (talk) 02:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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