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:{{ping|Magnolia677}} Thank you for replying, the reason I never added a source was due to it not having one when I reverted it. There is also another on that article called "Call of War" without a source. Thanks. [[User:SGTMakarov|SGTMakarov]] ([[User talk:SGTMakarov|talk]]) 12:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC) |
:{{ping|Magnolia677}} Thank you for replying, the reason I never added a source was due to it not having one when I reverted it. There is also another on that article called "Call of War" without a source. Thanks. [[User:SGTMakarov|SGTMakarov]] ([[User talk:SGTMakarov|talk]]) 12:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC) |
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I didn't do anything wrong about Gymnast Kim Zmeskal. I just want to ask how much did Kim Zmeskal weigh. And what's her height. I ask that I want to make an update. And I'm sorry. And I have this that I found in her biography. I'm scared. I didn't mean no offense. https://informationcradle.com/kim-zmeskal/ [[Special:Contributions/100.2.114.167|100.2.114.167]] ([[User talk:100.2.114.167|talk]]) 17:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Can you revert this please? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_youngest_killers&type=revision&diff=1108276125&oldid=1108120899 2601:206:301:4A90:48E:3734:202B:39E4 (talk) 04:00, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Pekin IL edits
Some of us here at the Pekin Public Library reverted a few of your recent edits to the Pekin IL article, including the section on the Native peoples who lived in and near Pekin at and soon after the time when white settlement began in the 1820s that led in a few years to Pekin's founding. Since these peoples were the first to live in what became Pekin, their story is a part of Pekin's story, especially since Pekin's pioneers had dealings with many of them. It is important that those who lived in what became Pekin are acknowledged and not erased from our history.
Our city is now preparing to celebrate a bicentennial in 2024, which is 200 years since the arrival of Jonathan Tharp. Therefore Ia and others hope our city's Wikipedia article can be improved, since it really needs it. I appreciate your interest in our city and in improving the Wikipedia article, but ask that you not delete any chapter of our history, not even Pekin's "prehistory." You are unfortunately mistaken that none of the Native peoples mentions lived within Pekin's geographic boundaries. Some lived just outside or on the boundaries (such as the 1830s camp on the south shores of Pekin Lake, which was on the north edge of Pekin's Lakeside Cemetery, the city's oldest and largest extant cemetery), but the Pottawatomi village on the ridge along Pekin Lake was entirely within Pekin's boundaries, in northwest Pekin. So too was Shabbona's camp circa 1830 which was immediately south of Broadway and near Front Street (alone Pekin's river front).
No personal attacks
Hello Magnolia677. I see here that you have a habit of removing relevant, neutrally-phrased, reliably-sourced material from pages, rarely give understandable edit summaries, and many users have asked you to stop. Certainly at no time is it acceptable to refuse to discuss your edits and engage in personal attacks as you did here. Invasive Spices (talk) 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- You have made no effort to respond on talk pages. You have instead responded with WP:FOLLOWING and WP:EDITWARRING in this edit. Stop your disruptive editing immediately. If you continue you may be blocked. Invasive Spices (talk) 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello again Magnolia677. I see you have continued removing relevant, neutrally-phrased, reliably-sourced material I have added. This time on a different page. This raises the question of whether you have a problem with me or with hostility in general or both. I see that @Myotus tried to talk to you and you responded insultingly. I would like you to just stop this. Thank you. Invasive Spices (talk) 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Invasive Spices: Down in the Delta we'd say, "You're madder than a wet hen!" I didn't respond here because an admin followed me and wrote "I don't see the supposed personal attack", and also questioned the relevance of your edit, as did I. Moreover, I'm not sure how I can be following you at either Atascosa County, Texas or at Starr County, Texas, when I first edited both articles long before you did, and both were on my watchlist. Wikipedia benefits from your unique knowledge and interest in bugs and crop diseases and stuff like that. But when you add that "a dramatic increase in permethrin resistance in Cattle Fever Ticks (Rhipicephalus microplus) has been noted here."...to the economy section of an article about a US county, someone is probably going to delete it and question its relevance. Thank you for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- My last reply was 25 days ago, the other editor's 26, and your last reply was 30 days ago. Refusing to use the Talk: page for 30 days and then suddenly reverting because I tried to discuss a reversion on a different, unrelated page with you here is very disruptive. Invasive Spices (talk) 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Invasive Spices: Down in the Delta we'd say, "You're madder than a wet hen!" I didn't respond here because an admin followed me and wrote "I don't see the supposed personal attack", and also questioned the relevance of your edit, as did I. Moreover, I'm not sure how I can be following you at either Atascosa County, Texas or at Starr County, Texas, when I first edited both articles long before you did, and both were on my watchlist. Wikipedia benefits from your unique knowledge and interest in bugs and crop diseases and stuff like that. But when you add that "a dramatic increase in permethrin resistance in Cattle Fever Ticks (Rhipicephalus microplus) has been noted here."...to the economy section of an article about a US county, someone is probably going to delete it and question its relevance. Thank you for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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Your response is expected at:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Minneapolis#Dakota
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Minneapolis#Deletions_by_Magnolia677
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Minneapolis#Photo_caption
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Truist Park
Hi there. I added two attendances and two boxscores from information I got from the tours Wikipedia page ( Chromatica Ball ) and ( Worlds Hottest Tour ) these are reliable and correct. I don’t know how to add references but they are correct. Wolla96 (talk) 10:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Wolla96: Thank you for writing. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners. Keep in mind that other Wikipedia articles cannot be used as a source. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello
I could not understand the edit summary you gave me here, so could you tell me why exactly you reverted my edit? Thanks, 47.227.95.73 (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please stop making that same edit. You've been reverted by many editors. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I did, I admit, and was directed to the talk page for the article, where I was told to add it without the link that I had added to it. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I disagreed with your edit. Best to seek a consensus on the talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I did, and stated so in my edit summary. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Now you need to seek a wider consensus than one person. I'll leave a message there in a bit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I did, and stated so in my edit summary. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I disagreed with your edit. Best to seek a consensus on the talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I did, I admit, and was directed to the talk page for the article, where I was told to add it without the link that I had added to it. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Reverting vandalism = edit war?
Please consider reading the edits of the IP to Oakville Trafalgar High School. It was blatant vandalism calling the teacher a “man” and saying the backlash was deserved. Also they claimed that everyone hated it, which they provided no source. I think you got confused because it is not an edit war. Screendeemer (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Screendeemer: I'm not sure which edit you mean? All I've done recently is remove a picture. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You left a message on my talk page accusing me of being in a edit war, but all I did was remove snarky comments from an IP that only ever edited that page. Screendeemer (talk) 18:00, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You were in an edit war, and I'm not on your side on this one. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:11, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- ”In September 2022, the school was the subject of well-deserved backlash after a male teacher was filmed living his fetish by wearing a large prosthetic bust with protruding nipples while teaching a class.” How is that not vandalism? Screendeemer (talk) 18:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that IP edit was vandalism. Then the IP reverted your POV edits, and you revered. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:37, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- ”In September 2022, the school was the subject of well-deserved backlash after a male teacher was filmed living his fetish by wearing a large prosthetic bust with protruding nipples while teaching a class.” How is that not vandalism? Screendeemer (talk) 18:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You were in an edit war, and I'm not on your side on this one. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:11, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You left a message on my talk page accusing me of being in a edit war, but all I did was remove snarky comments from an IP that only ever edited that page. Screendeemer (talk) 18:00, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Beach
You are confusing Fort Myers Beach, Florida with Fort Myers, Florida. The former town is in the news. The latter not so much. Venkat TL (talk) 19:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Randolph, New Hampshire
Hi Magnolia677, I saw that you removed an image from Randolph, New Hampshire, saying "none of this is located in Randolph". I did not create that image, but I think that both the viewpoint (Mt. Crescent) and everything shown between there and the bottom parts of the mountains (including the stretch of Rt. 2) is officially in the town of Randolph. Do you agree? Thank you for your other edits of this page. Ebony Jackson (talk) 18:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Ebony Jackson: Thanks for writing. I posted the photo here. It's so low-quality that it barely improves the article, and it's difficult to located anything in the image, per MOS:IMAGEQUALITY. What do you think? I'll look around online and see if I can find better photo of Randolph. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess it is a subjective thing, but to me it gives a good sense of the surrounding landscape. If you can find a better image of this view, then that would be great, but for now, I'd suggest reinstating the image as is. Ebony Jackson (talk) 21:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Ebony Jackson: I looked for a better image, but there isn't one. You are welcome to add the image back, and then I'll start a discussion to get the community's input. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess it is a subjective thing, but to me it gives a good sense of the surrounding landscape. If you can find a better image of this view, then that would be great, but for now, I'd suggest reinstating the image as is. Ebony Jackson (talk) 21:09, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Assumption illinois
Why did you revert my edit on assumption Illinois? I added a source at the bottom under references. The information regarding Canada is incorrect and is listed as such on the city of assumption website, which ai added and you deleted. The city in Canada was not formed until long after the city in Illinois. The parish was founded in 1807. The person who changed the name is buried in Assumption and the rest of his family is buried in Louisiana. Rather than flagging it, you deleted it. Why?
Corpusant (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Corpusant: I deleted it because it wasn't supported by the inline citation following your edit. I went back and see what you did now. Glad you got it straightened out. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! Corpusant (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Washington Metro headways
There are many sources illustrating this - why did you remove it? Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 13:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Fastfoodfanatic: Could you show me where this was sourced in the article? I must have missed it. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:24, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: I did not source it. I mean there are many sources I could have used. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 13:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello
How are you? 2600:6C63:677F:F974:1DE8:DB21:C203:F186 (talk) 18:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- All good. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
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Weequahic Park & Lake
I restored the the Lake's being largest in Essex County that you had reverted, but with an unimpeachable source where previously the "largest" assertion was unsourced. Perhaps that's why you reverted. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Larrykoen: Thank you! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Cass Scenic Railroad
I see where you reverted (basically) every edit I've made to the Cass Scenic Railroad wiki. While some of it was conferred to me by their mechanical team and can be removed in the notes column, you also removed several rows of the table that can easily be seen from Cass's website from a simple web search. These are locomotives that are owned by the railroad and it is listed on multiple sites. It would be nice if I did not have to retype of all of that and remake that table. Midnight Railfan (talk) 12:24, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Midnight Railfan: Everything is in the page history. Just click on "view history", then click on my edit, then cut-and-paste it with references. See Help:Referencing for beginners. Let me know if you get stuck. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:36, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Oops, wrong Gayville
Hi, We noticed that the photo you added to the Gayville, SD article was the wrong Gayville, SD article (there are TWO Gayville, SD's and two articles...) I'll let you fix it. A few details: From history: 15 February 202 Magnolia677 13,443 bytes +photo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayville,_South_Dakota For the community in Lawrence County, see Gayville, Lawrence County, South Dakota
Fred and Becca who used to have family reunions in Gayville, Yankton County, SD which does not have a hill like shown in the pix fholson@cohousing.org Fholson (talk) 13:24, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Fholson: I moved it to the correct article. Thanks for pointing that out! Magnolia677 (talk) 13:33, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Images
Hello. I'm confused about your edit here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Quinton_Hooker&diff=1119784676&oldid=1119772104
Why do you believe mos requires that we not identify which of the people is the one relevant to the article?
Also - as the players are both looking in one direction, why do you believe that the mos requires that they be looking other than towards the text of the article? 2603:7000:2143:8500:9DA0:EED1:18F2:5FBA (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- @2603:7000:2143:8500:9DA0:EED1:18F2:5FBA: The photos should be right aligned. Sorry for removing one of the words from the caption. My error. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks as to the removal from the caption. As to the placement of the photos, you write here that they should be right aligned. But you pointed me to MOS:images, earlier. Which states "Multiple images can be staggered right and left." I'm confused by your revert. 2603:7000:2143:8500:DC6D:A907:4AD6:1CCB (talk) 17:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- There's only one image. How is this confusing? Magnolia677 (talk) 13:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- There is only one other image, that at the top in the infobox, which is of course on the right. In this image, the players are both facing to the right - in which case having the image on the left, so that they are facing into the text rather than away from the text, is the preferred placement. The MOS which you pointed me towards does not say that in this case the image should be right aligned, as you said was the case. Rather, it suggests that the placement that you changed was fine as it was. That's what is confusing to me. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A188:53A2:1B22:A938 (talk) 16:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- "Most images should be on the right side of the page, which is the default placement". Magnolia677 (talk) 18:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- There is only one other image, that at the top in the infobox, which is of course on the right. In this image, the players are both facing to the right - in which case having the image on the left, so that they are facing into the text rather than away from the text, is the preferred placement. The MOS which you pointed me towards does not say that in this case the image should be right aligned, as you said was the case. Rather, it suggests that the placement that you changed was fine as it was. That's what is confusing to me. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A188:53A2:1B22:A938 (talk) 16:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- There's only one image. How is this confusing? Magnolia677 (talk) 13:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks as to the removal from the caption. As to the placement of the photos, you write here that they should be right aligned. But you pointed me to MOS:images, earlier. Which states "Multiple images can be staggered right and left." I'm confused by your revert. 2603:7000:2143:8500:DC6D:A907:4AD6:1CCB (talk) 17:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Good Article
In case you didn't see it, our work on the Cary, North Carolina article has resulted in GA status. I know we don't always agree, but I have learned a lot from you! Thanks, Rublamb (talk) 23:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Rublamb: I've been watching. Thank you for your hard work on that article. It gives readers an interesting and very encyclopedic background of this wonderful city. Well done! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Crime in Demographics section
Hi Magnolia, I'm wondering if you have any justification for placing crime stats in the demographic section of city pages. Thanks. AlleyRegent69 (talk) 23:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- @AlleyRegent69: Please read my edit summary. I reverted your edit because you were editing against consensus. I personally do not see a need for crime stats, unless they are particularly notable. However, you can't just make up your own section names. Just let the discussion at US Cities reach a consensus, then make your edit. No rush. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- A consensus was never sought on the original guideline, and there clearly isn't a consensus among US city pages. New York, the city used as the example on WP:USCITIES doesn't have crime in the demographics. Chicago doesn't. New Orleans has Crime as a section. Do you consider all those "against consensus"? AlleyRegent69 (talk) 22:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- @AlleyRegent69: Please discuss this where you can get input from other editors. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:17, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- A consensus was never sought on the original guideline, and there clearly isn't a consensus among US city pages. New York, the city used as the example on WP:USCITIES doesn't have crime in the demographics. Chicago doesn't. New Orleans has Crime as a section. Do you consider all those "against consensus"? AlleyRegent69 (talk) 22:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Providence Historical Census Data
Can you explain why you felt it necessary to move the historical census data to the History section instead of Demographics? Nearly every other US city has a single-column right-justified table of the decennial census in the Demographics section. But you're insisting on a 5 column version in the History section for Providence? I'm confused by your reasoning, because you haven't left any. If there's a good reason to have Providence's historical data different from every other city, please let me know. I'm new here :3 AlleyRegent69 (talk) 00:09, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- @AlleyRegent69: My error. Sorry. Fixed. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:30, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
My edits getting reverted
Ok, even though I use sources for my edits, but I'm not sure why did you keep noticing my edits and reverting them? Is it because my edits are unsourced? Even thought some of my edits were word rephrasing, how come you seem to notice them?
Can you give me more details? -- 2601:205:C001:EA0:DD9D:F980:1B2C:6117 (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Read the edit summaries. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:21, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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- @SusanLesch: Asking questions at Minneapolis--about edits I made at Chicago and St. Louis--is out of scope, and the fact that you're following me is creepy. MOS:IMAGEQUALITY mentions "dark images". Magnolia677 (talk) 14:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Two questions are unanswered for a couple days. The reason I look for you is to get answers and not hold up the discussion. And a while ago when you went behind my back about initiating a FAR which was, shall we say, far creepier.
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Edits Gulfport MS
Do not change info added about neighborhoods of Gulfport. Based on local knowledge and experience. Mawmawtt (talk) 14:33, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Reverts on edits
The edits you reverted were not vandalism, and not erroneous. I will add sources for them soon. I don't think threatening to ban me was the best idea, it's off-putting. Heh0002 (talk) 14:58, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- The sources I added for "Kane Train" being a nickname are legitimate; the article straight up refers to Gibbs as such in the title, and Gibbs himself has called himself that in many of his songs. What in the world would be an acceptable source for this according to your standards? Heh0002 (talk) 22:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Cleveland
Please read the references I added before taking a flame thrower to the article.
I included notes about Harrison Dillard, a story from the Plain Dealer which clearly refers to Nageotte as a Cleveland native, Gerard's Olympic bio where it states he was born in Cleveland, and a news story about Miocic which notes him as Cleveland's own.
You can be born in the city and move to the burbs at a young age, you know. Vjmlhds 23:31, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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Truth or Consequences
Hi Magnolia, Hope all is well with you and yours and that you had an enjoyable Thanksgiving holiday. I wanted to send you a personal note, since I reverted your edit on Truth or Consequences, NM. The 1997 film, Truth or Consequences, NM (film) with Kiefer Sutherland is notable, although it received poor reviews. We have a WP article on it. I restored the content, added a link to the film article, and a review in Variety. All best regards, Netherzone (talk) 22:40, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Netherzone: All good. Thanks for the note. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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This maple leaf is awarded to Magnolia677 for expanding Osmond, Newfoundland and Labrador, during the sixth year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 22:54, 4 December 2022 (UTC) |
Hi Magnolia677. I hope things are going well for you. I just added some information to the article of Chriesman, Texas and removed all of the information that was there because every single bit of it was unsourced. There were only two references in the article and the rest was just completely unsourced. There was no citation needed tag in the article, so I expanded it by providing sources. How does it look now? Colman2000 (talk) 22:25, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Colman2000: Thanks for writing. The article looks good! I'd like to make a few very minor tweaks if you don't mind. Look at the main street. This place has history which you've brought back to life. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:30, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Of course! Go right ahead. Do you have a source for that? Colman2000 (talk) 00:09, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the diff to what I was telling you about if you want to view it. [1] Colman2000 (talk) 00:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Colman2000: I made a few tweaks. It looks great. Thanks for your hard work. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Thanks for your help! I sent you a diff to what I was telling you about, but if you scroll down to what was seen in the history section of the article, you can see that it was unsourced. Colman2000 (talk) 00:31, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Colman2000: I made a few tweaks. It looks great. Thanks for your hard work. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Undisclosed paid editing
"Perhaps to fill some mental void on your end"? LOL, what a guy. This is just to inform you that I've indeffed them, and that I'm pretty surprised no admin got there before me. Bishonen | tålk 09:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC).
- Update: they've already appealed, been declined, and flamed out. Fast work. Bishonen | tålk 10:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: One of the only thing all editors agree on is paid editing. Thanks for your help! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Ellwood oil Japanese attack
Well I find it humorous that you do not accept my edit, if you would read the page you will see all the facts are in place. This is a long running myth that will continue to run, it appears. Ok by me. 172.102.117.198 (talk) 18:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I'm familiar with the Ellwood Oil Field area, so the article is on my watchlist, and Tom Modugno publishes a lot of very good local research on his Goleta History blog. He's correct that the Japanese commander story is a local myth. It's a small town, and longtime residents with an interest in the area often know more than many of the mainstream sources, so it's good to pay attention when folks dispute what's in the Wikipedia articles - and help them rework their contributions to fit Wikipedia's guidelines, instead of rejecting them. I'll help with that part. Dreamyshade (talk) 18:56, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @172.102.117.198: Please note that a consensus of editors at WP:RSP have agreed the Wordpress blogs are generally unreliable. Perhaps User:Dreamyshade will assist you in locating a reliable source to support your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- WP:RSP says "WordPress.com is a blog hosting service that runs on the WordPress software. As a self-published source, it is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert". GoletaHistory.com is not on Wordpress.com - it's simply made with Wordpress software, which is a situation not explicitly discussed on that page. A lot of websites run Wordpress, including name-brand news sites, although many of those examples are a couple years old, and they may have shifted software in the past couple years. Still, Rolling Stone runs a version of Wordpress (see "Powered by WordPress.com VIP" in the footer), and it's noted as "generally reliable" on WP:RSP.
- But also, Tom is a subject matter expert. He's quoted as a local historian in this architecture database and in multiple local press articles, such as this one related to Ellwood, another one about that tree, and described as "encyclopedic about Goleta’s history" in this article. He has also published several columns in the local newspapers, such as this one and this one. But I don't expect people to check which local self-published sites are considered reliable, and COI is a potential issue as well, so I have also advised Tom to draw from the sources he's used instead of citing his website. Dreamyshade (talk) 02:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Walker Art Center Edits
You made an edit which was to undo edits on the Walker Art Center page, claiming that they were simply "artistic babble from a primary source of artistic babble" I would argue that both facts that I added made improvements to the page as a whole. There is no reason that there should not be more information about both the 2005 building and the conflict in 2017, this information is relevant and would improve reader's understandings of the history of the Walker as a whole. The sources are reliable and the information is accurate, and placed accurately. I would appreciate if you would undo your edit, and put my facts back in place. Amai.ws (talk) 14:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Amai.ws: Please discuss this on the article talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:14, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Editing Question
Hello @Magnolia677. I have a question about the Minneapolis article and the Minnesota article. You seem to be the right person to ask in terms of experience and interest. I am reaching out since I am not a registered editor (who can’t edit protected pages (or their talk pages) for that reason).
For Minneapolis —> the “DFL has held a majority of Council seats there for 50 years” in the 5th paragraph reads very awkwardly and comes across as confusing rather than helpful. Should it be adjusted to talk about the city being known as a national center of progressive politics? (The rest of the state is moderate and Minneapolis has been in the news for its progressive leanings). I was thinking that may be much more informative to readers when talking about politics. It also seems to say it is the largest city twice (but I may be misreading). You do what you think is best for that article opening.
For Minnesota —> unlike other states’ pages, it does not talk about what states and Canadian provinces it is near. Also the part about “more recent decades….” near the end is quite a jumble to read. As a result, its purpose in the opening comes across as lost. Attack that opening section as you see fit.
Very much thanks for your help. I would do it myself if I was a registered editor! —- Grebbgy88 (talk) 15:45, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- First, you are a "registered" editor. That occurred when you created an account. Second, I think you mean that you are not WP:AUTOCONFIRMED, which, if true, means you cannot edit articles that are semi-protected. Third, if you weren't autoconfirmed and you wanted to edit semi-protected articles, like the two you mention, the proper procedure is not to ask another editor to do things for you, but to make a request at the article Talk page using
{{Edit semi-protected}}
. Finally, as it happens, you are autoconfirmed, so you can edit the articles directly.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2022 (UTC)- Thank youGrebbgy88 (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
'Tis the season
Merry Yuletide to you! (And a happy new year!)
Schazjmd (talk) 17:53, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Schazjmd: Hey, thanks so much! Have a wonderful holiday, and happy editing in 2023! Magnolia677 (talk) 17:57, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Hey magnolia
can you please add my albums back to my wiki discography page as well my new updated image that’s also on my Spotify page. Their are many albums missing that are a major part of my career. Thank you for the bio grammar correction but theirs also missing information - NEAKO - Wikipedia page Nikko bailey (talk) 07:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Nikko bailey: I removed them because they were unsourced. If you click "view history" on the article, you will find a link to a previous version of the article where they are displayed. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
My edit on Davenport, IA
Hello! I'm new to this thing, and only really made this account to put up information on a Proposed freeway that eventually resulted in the construction of Welcome Way. The reason I saw it fit was because had the freeway been built, it would have been important, and its direct correlation to the one-way system of Brady St. and Harrison St./Welcome Way. Also the idea of something that could have changed the landscape of Davenport not being mentioned really anywhere online aside from a blurb in a blogpost is just kind of sad. Anyways I won't undo your edit or go against it or anything, just wanted my thoughts out there. Thank you and well wishes!
-BigManChuck BigManChuck (talk) 09:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy holidays
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Have a wonderful holiday season filled with peace, joy, prosperity and wonder. |
Hi Magnolia677, Thank you for all your contributions during the year. |
- @Netherzone: Thank you so much for the holiday greetings. All the best to you and a wonderful 2023! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Winchester edit reversions
Hello, I modified the Winchester TN page to fix inaccurate information. For example, the dogwood festival was stopped years ago and replaced with the high on the hog festival. I made this edit and then you had reverted this. Note that the link to the dogwood festival goes no where now and still refers to the dogwood festival which is nonexistant. Why did you revert this to the inaccurate information again? Amandajra (talk) 15:19, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy holidays
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Seasons greetings! |
Wishing you joyous holiday spirits, |
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Beccaynr (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Beccaynr: Thank you so much for the holiday greetings. All the best to you and for wonderful 2023. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:08, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
Hi Magnolia677. I wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year 2023. I just expanded the article of Martin's Mill, Texas, which, like the article of Chriesman, did not have any sources and some original research. I added four references to the article and some links. Please make some minor tweaks if you so wish. All the best! Colman2000 (talk) 02:38, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Colman2000: Thank you! All the best for a great 2023! Magnolia677 (talk) 14:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Don't edit what you don't know!
Whats up boss. I'm directly in the industry. I am on 1017. Don't revert what you don't know. This definitely isn't your topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silver24shil (talk • contribs) 23:06, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Ottawa Rowing Club
Hello, your recent edits to Ottawa Rowing Club constitute a drastic change, and in my opinion they have significantly vandalized/harmed the article. Respectfully, it is clear that you lack information about the subject of the article. For context, I am an active member of the Ottawa Rowing Club.
You cited WP:EL. Per my edit summary here, I had initiated the proper referencing format for the list of names; the rest was going to be added later. As for your removal of the list of names by citing WP:NOTDIRECTORY, I will point to WP:SOURCELIST and WP:LISTPEOPLE to reinforce the following position: the vast majority of the people on that list already have stand-alone articles about them, meaning their notability has already been established. As for those less notable people in the list (e.g., those without an article), they may be included per WP:LISTPEOPLE, which states "In a few cases, such as lists of people holding notable positions, the names of non-notable people may be included in a list that is largely made up of notable people, for the sake of completeness."
As for sources, there exist multiple reliable sources which link the vast majority of the names to the Ottawa Rowing Club, it's just that it's a cumbersome task and will require several hours in order to properly format the sources. For example, Alanna Fogarty, while not notable enough to have her own article, can easily be verified as being part of the ORC by looking here (page 16, 2:30 PM race), and her participation at the 2016 and 2018 World University Rowing Championships can be verified here. This is just one example. The dozens of other names can almost all be verified by similar means as being connected to the Ottawa Rowing Club, and their participation in the international events in question has already been proven using the World Rowing website. Additionally, there is an Alumni Search feature on the Ottawa Rowing Club's website, which can be used to verify the names.
In summary, I request/propose that a consensus be reached regarding the specific inclusion criteria for the list, such as restricting it to alumni only. As well, while I recognize that the article in its state before your edits was far from perfect (and I agree with some of your cleanup edits such as tidying wording and removing overlinking), your edits regarding content removal went too far. For this reason, I believe a more measured approach is warranted; one where consesus is reached before any drastic changes are unilaterally undertaken. You included a userbox on your user page stating that you're polite. I believe I've been courteous in my criticism, per WP:AGF; I'm hoping you will respond in kind. Thank you. Rowing007 (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Could you please discuss this on the article talk page? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:41, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
You reported me after one comment asking me to stop doing something I did feel was improving the articles and which no one but you even mentioned to me? We may disagree about the value of the deprecated parameters or whether they will ever be filled in but to go to AIV without even giving me a chance to digest or respond is kind of sucky, especially on Christmas Day. You're from the Delta? Might as well be from the SFBA. 107.122.161.39 (talk) 22:36, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- @107.122.161.39: You're right, it's Christmas, and we're all busy with family, and I wish I had more time and crayons to explain this to you, but your edits--hundreds of them--do not improve Wikipedia. Clearly you are interested in making valuable edits which will improve the project. A great was to do this would be to revert all your edits. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:50, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- Magnolia677 is also an experienced editor and would not have reported you without good reason. Please note @107.122.161.39: that you are operating dangerously close to a personal attack, which itself is deeply problematic. The day of the year is immaterial. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:58, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
For your work. Push onward! — Moops ⋠T⋡ 23:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC) |
- @Moops: Hey, thanks!! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:07, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
- You earned it. Merry Christmas. :) — Moops ⋠T⋡ 23:08, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Savoy, Mississippi
Now just what exactly do you expect me to do in terms of citing my source here? The Crossroads gay bar was an integral part of rural gay life in east central Mississippi and one of the only prominent businesses in Savoy. I have given the only web source I could find, along with a link to a wiki page for the literal movie that was made about the bar. Your continuous editing on pages that I, myself, have created is feeling a bit targeted; according to your talk page, I'm not the only one thinking that. I'd ask that you kindly cease your insipid little edits, as it makes for nothing but a hostile environment. I have more than proven this bar's existence to you. Borealism (talk) 01:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Borealism: If it was so integral, then someone would have written about it. The source appears to be user-submitted. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- "Someone would've written about it" - there's a literal documentary about it, which I linked on the page before you vandalized it. I can only assume you have actual fucking brainworms. God bless. Go touch grass. Borealism (talk) 16:12, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Removal of New York giants section in the incidents at MOA
I saw you reverted my edit stating New York giant players were in the mall at the time of the shooting. However there is another part saying that Kyle Busch was in the mall during a different shooting, is that okay and I phrased it wrong? Or is it still trivial? LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 00:27, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- @LuxembourgBoy42: Thank you for writing. My concern is that there is nothing encyclopedic about listing names of celebrities who by coincidence just happened to be in the largest mall in the United States, during a targeted gang shooting that had nothing to do with them. Please see WP:VNOT. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SusanLesch (talk) 23:53, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Maine House of Representatives article finally up-to-date
I just thought I'd let you know that I finally replaced everything I had blanked out on the Maine House of Representatives article (the old information was out-of-date with the convening of the new Legislature, and the districts (and particularly the district numbers) had totally changed). You had asked me on December 11 to revert that. I had gotten the names, municipalities of residence and party affiliations added on December 12, but I hadn't gotten the year elected and year term-limited added until this evening. But it's there now. Thanks for not reverting, as there was a lot of stuff I had done in my December 8-9 edits that I'm glad I didn't have to redo or try to go to an old version of the article to salvage. Kevin Lamoreau (talk) 04:26, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Kevin Lamoreau: Awesome! Thank you. Have a great New Year. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:18, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Walker Lake
Prior to colonization, the Northern Paiute people were nomadic, so basically everywhere they stayed was seasonally. That does not take away from its significance. It was returned to year after year and continues to be the site of annual celebrations to this day. It is also just incorrect to say they only inhabited one small part of the area, as my recently-added citations show.
If you still believe that information about this is not relevant for the lead paragraph (not even the lead sentence), please explain why here. Khazik (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year, Magnolia677!
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Magnolia677,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Moops: Thank you! All the best for a wonderful 2023! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- To you as well. Keep up the great work from the delta! — Moops ⋠T⋡ 23:30, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Magnolia677!
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Magnolia677,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 03:14, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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Ontario King
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Ontario King Award |
Well done on adding great detail to Ontario based articles! Eihsok (talk) 03:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC) |
- @Eihsok: Thank you! Magnolia677 (talk) 09:17, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Big Scarr
.... not really sure why you undid my Big Scarr edits as they were obviously already in the article, such as him being a trap, musician and drill musician, it literally said it in his genres. Plus he was very obviously a male but whatever i guess... 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 13:01, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @4TheLuvOfFax: "Trap" was unsourced. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
did you not pay attention to the genres? 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
West Des Moines, Iowa
Hi
Thanks for being diligent for vandalism and inaccuracy; however, adding accurate 2020 census data with a citation from the US Census Bureau should be in the clear. The 2020 census data for the city is pretty straightforward...feel free to check out the citation and compare. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/westdesmoinescityiowa
Would you be able to revert the article? Thanks, and Happy New Year! WLRT1 (talk) 15:09, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @WLRT1: You added census data that was not supported by the source cited. Could you please explain why the edit you are disputing says that you accessed the data in 2012? Magnolia677 (talk) 15:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Of course...thank you for your watchful eye. That would be a typographical error, and sincere apologies for my mistake. The data was accessed in 2022, not 2012. I will make that change now. Was there any other disputed data from the census page? WLRT1 (talk) 15:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @WLRT1: You also changed the name of one of the city councilors. So long as everything is property sourced, and the source supports the text, then perfect. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fixed...thanks. Both the census and city website are cited properly. WLRT1 (talk) 18:33, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @WLRT1: Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:58, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fixed...thanks. Both the census and city website are cited properly. WLRT1 (talk) 18:33, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @WLRT1: You also changed the name of one of the city councilors. So long as everything is property sourced, and the source supports the text, then perfect. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Of course...thank you for your watchful eye. That would be a typographical error, and sincere apologies for my mistake. The data was accessed in 2022, not 2012. I will make that change now. Was there any other disputed data from the census page? WLRT1 (talk) 15:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Revision 1131663295 - Raymond, New Hampshire
Good morning, Magnolia677,
You recently undid my revision, revision 1131663295, on the page for Raymond, New Hampshire. The revision specifically outlined the New Hampshire Fence Company. Your note asked what the revision had to do with the town of Raymond, and I’d just hope to clarify so I’ll be able to add it back with hopefully no issue.
The New Hampshire Fence Company was, for its entire run, a Raymond-based company, as well as the biggest fence installation company in all of New Hampshire for most of the 1940s-1980s. Specifically, Raymond is where Frank J. Mafera, the inventor of chain link fence weaving, lived and patented his method. Earlier this year, the state of New Hampshire installed an official New Hampshire Historical Marker in Raymond commemorating the importance of the company and Mafera’s invention. Alongside the photographs from my own personal collection that I have added to this revision as sources, I hope this will be a valuable resource for people trying to understand either the history of chain link fencing in America or New Hampshire/Raymond’s industrial and engineering history.
Please let me know if there are any issues related to this revision and I’ll be glad to help amend! BakedintheHole (talk) 15:06, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- @BakedintheHole: Thank you for writing. My concern was that your edit was about non-notable people and a non-notable company, and most of the edit had nothing to do with Reymond and was partly sourced with your personal photos. What is notable is the historic plaque. I have trimmed your edit and added the information back to the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:23, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Removed unsourced content
Magnolia, when it comes to the disbanded or renumbered fire companies in Springfield, Massachusetts I did source them by stating that the info came from massfiretrucks.com. I stated that on the edit history page. thank you tom950. Tom950 (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Tom950: Could you please list the specific edit you are referring to. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:47, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Nina Hartley
I see you got into a debate with other users over Nina Hartley's contributions, career history and association with sex positive feminism. I see that there were many references provided and I am curious as to why exactly you completely reverted the contributions and did not consider the citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moderateasneeded (talk • contribs) 20:36, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Moderateasneeded: Please discuss on the article talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Through out the 2nd wave of feminism there was a thing called the feminist porn wars. The focal issue of such debate was whether feminism supported or disapproved of porn and sex work. Nina Hartley was at the forefront of the debate. She was mentioned in several articles and played a role in this debate. She is called a feminist by many people and she considers her self a feminist. Her porn is different than the likes of Sasha Grey or PinkXXX. She wrote several books and supports sex education. When it comes to sex positive feminism or the feminist porn wars Nina Hartley has an opinion that is valued higher than your average American woman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moderateasneeded (talk • contribs) 21:26, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Bank of North Carolina
I just noticed a photo of a bank in the BNC Bank and the history says you added it. Considering the bank that the article is about was started in 1991, a photo from 1974 surely is irrelevant. However, there are two options. You could find out if there is enough information on the bank that the photo represents for Wikipedia to have an article on that bank, or perhaps the bank in the photo was taken over by another bank which has an article and maybe that information could go there.
I was going to suggest discussing the addition of details of that other bank to the article where the photo was, but the title of that article is BNC Bank, so even if there could be consensus, it wouldn't work there.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:01, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Vchimpanzee: Ok, the original photo gives the address at "Fayetteville and Martin Streets, in Raleigh". And this source says, "The First Union National Bank of North Carolina building at 234 Fayetteville St.", which on Google Maps is that exact corner, so there we have it! Let me change the category and other details on the photo, and thank you for removing it from the article. What is most disappointing for me is not my original error, but that I cropped out an AMC Gremlin from the original photo. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
US Presidential election county results
To Magnolia677,
Why are you reverting my edits that included more historical US presidential election results for some New York State counties? The sources for the figures are provided within the "self-published source" that I gave in the edit description (not self-published by me, I might add), including source links to historical newspapers of the time at nyshistoricnewspapers.org. Most US states on the spreadsheet lack such detailed electoral results information from around the time of the civil war and before, and so no figures are included on the list. However, New York State's counties are all included in the spreadsheet dating back to 1828.
I don't understand why you revert my edits that include these election results, which would have broadened the list of results that was already included on the wikipedia pages. Really strange. 79.66.109.207 (talk) 22:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please read my edit summaries, and the detailed edit summary here by User:Heavy Water. You are welcome to discuss at WP:RSN. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- @79.66.109.207 My edit summary was not exactly detailed, so I should explain further: it is a self-published source and cannot be used whether you wrote it or not and whether they claim to be citing sources or not.
- If, however, you can cite the historic newspapers directly, (it seems they're available online) that would be great. Please understand that I appreciate the work that you are doing, we simply cannot cite a Google Doc. Heavy Water (talk) 00:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Spanish names
Please do not remove the original names of those sites in Spanish. It is totally relevant information. Lopezsuarez (talk) 19:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Lopezsuarez: You've added Spanish translations to places that have zero connection to Spain or anything Spanish. Please revert this mess you've made. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:59, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- You are a bit hispanophobic. Un poco. Lopezsuarez (talk) 20:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of well sourced material
Hi Magnolia677, I wanted to stop by to check-in as to why you have deleted the section I have been working on for the past few hours in relation to the artistic installations at Claridge's? I believe I had well sourced my contributions and now see that you have chosen to delete without discussion. I'm sure you can imagine why a fellow contributor might appreciate being notified of such a large deletion. I see the edit summary was written as "done" which doesn't indicate summarise the edit very well. I'd appreciate understanding why the decision was taken to remove the work to better my contributions in future. Happy editing! Jo Jc JoTalk💬Edits📝 16:30, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Jo Jc Jo: Thank you for writing. I've been removing some over-the-top puffery from that article. Sorry for not leaving a more detailed edit summary; the "done" means I had just combined that paragraph with the preceding one, so it needed to be removed. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:14, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. I don't believe it to be "Over the top puffery". I do not believe the information, especially relating to Damien Hirst, one of the worlds greatest living artists, moving into the hotel, to be puffery. There is not consensus on this so I will revert the edit to maintain the status quo and take it to the talk page. Jo Jc JoTalk💬Edits📝 17:33, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Jo Jc Jo: The article is about a hotel, not an artist. Please don't start an edit war to add more puffery and out-of-scope content. User:Escape Orbit has also been cleaning up the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- I object to your accusations of edit warring. I was reverting and I was mid-way through posting it on the article talk page as per Consensus when I received your warning.
- There are plenty of examples in this article that are about individuals. There is a paragraph on the King of Yugoslavia moving in, there is a paragraph on Winston Churchill moving in. It's hardly like I've written an entire section on Damien Hirst and for what I have included, I believe it to be important to the article. Hirst is a major part of the hotel's recent history and I believe, the inclusion of the content I had written was balanced. However, it appears you don't want to hear this, nor do you assume good faith and think it should be taken to the article talk page.
- With your air of superiority I don't particularly want to engage with your further on this so I won't take it to the talk page or bother further with the article but I wish you all the best. Jo Jc JoTalk💬Edits📝 18:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Jo Jc Jo: The article is about a hotel, not an artist. Please don't start an edit war to add more puffery and out-of-scope content. User:Escape Orbit has also been cleaning up the article. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. I don't believe it to be "Over the top puffery". I do not believe the information, especially relating to Damien Hirst, one of the worlds greatest living artists, moving into the hotel, to be puffery. There is not consensus on this so I will revert the edit to maintain the status quo and take it to the talk page. Jo Jc JoTalk💬Edits📝 17:33, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
January 2023
Hello. The edit that I made was just reverting the article to the previous edit since someone deleted accurate information. The major transportation information that was deleted from "Detroit" and "Chicago" is also listed in the Wikipedia infoboxes of "New York City", "Los Angeles", etc. and appears to have been there for years. I didn't originally add that information. So I believe that my editing was constructive. Where does it say that information shouldn't be there? T Yorke (talk) 04:32, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Manganese, Minnesota
Hello, Magnolia677!
With regard to your editing of Maganese, Minnesota, understand this is a Feature Article, having gone through multiple review processes. I know Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anyone can edit, and I have no way of knowing whether or not you have written any Featured Articles, but Wikipedia defines them as such: No further content additions should be necessary unless new information becomes available; further improvements to the prose quality are often possible.
My goal in writing articles about ghost towns is two-fold: First, to honor those people who lived in the community, and second, to ensure ALL of the available information can be sourced in one place. Much information related to the (former) communities I write about are not available online: they require trips to the state archives at the Minnesota Historical Society, trips to county historical societies (in this case, Crow Wing County, Minnesota) in addition to regional historical societies (like the Cuyuna Iron Range Heritage Network), public libraries, university libraries and site visits. It takes years before I have all of the available information.
In reviewing your user profile, I can see you are very active with over 129,000 edits since you joined Wikipedia in 2012, so you must have ample time on your hands. I have a business to run and other non-profits I am involved with, so time for me is a luxury. I compose my articles in the sandbox until I feel the article is ready to be migrated to the main page (so it goes out as one big edit) and once there, request a copy edit from Jonesey 95 before placing them out for peer review. The paragraph about the Cuyuna Iron Range stratigraphy was written based on previous comments by Finetooth during the FAR for a different featured article: you learn a lot by going through the rigorous review process, and I was proactive in providing a paragraph on stratigraphy here. Mining is a big deal in Minnesota, so apparently the reviewers felt that a discussion of stratigraphy to be relevant. During the peer review process for this article, Ruhrfisch requested the inclusion of both a photograph for the Geology section as well as a stratigraphic map (which I had released to the public domain from the Minnesota Geological Survey just for this artcile). Ruhrfisch also had a previous working relationship with the late Brianboulton, who had assisted me previously in FAR.
When you gut an article like this, your are depriving the reader who may be looking for the comprehensive information previously stated by removing reliably sourced information as well. You are also removing content that had been requested by previous reviewers who helped elevate the article to this level (which suggests to me you are blindly editing without reviewing the previous reviewers comments). Ironically, when I first put this article out for peer review, I contacted my original mentor John from Idegon to ask him what had happened to his very capable friend, Coal town guy since I valued his opinion. The response I recieved was that CTG had left Wikipedia over the same issue: a bunch of his articles were gutted. I hope it was not you, but he did mention on his talk page that both he and CTG were familiar with who you were. It seems at this point John from Idegon has been permanently banned from Wikipedia as well: I don't know why and I'm not privy to such information. I know he was having health issues, but I'm sure the Admins had reasons they found it necessary to take such a drastic step.
At this point I am debating on whether or not the article should be locked and reassessed since your deletions of material suggested by previous reviewers (in potentially wanting to make this an edit war) may no lonqer qualify Maganese, Minnesota as a Featured Article. In reviewing you CURRENT talk page, there seem to be many issues with your "habit of removing relevant, neutrally-phrased, reliably-sourced material" cited by other users, in addition to four requests for dispute resolution. I have been too busy writing my next article Withrow, Minnesota to deal with your previous edits to Manganese, Minnesota until now. If you want to make yourself useful, please, by all means, go out to Peer Review and make suggestions, and I will either comply with your requests or defend my position, but leave the copy editing to Jonesey 95. Otherwise, if you want your name associated with a Featured Article, may I suggest, with no disrespect intended, that you go out there and promote one for yourself.
Best Regards, DrGregMN (talk) 19:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- @DrGregMN: I was pretty careful with my edits, and I'm familiar with ghost towns. I wrote most of the articles at Category:Mississippi populated places on the Mississippi River, and hundreds elsewhere, such as Zuber Corners, Ontario, Mars, Texas, and Trump, Colorado. And it was Coal Town Guy who suggested I visit Jenkinjones, West Virginia, where I nearly got shot taking a picture. My concern at Maganese is that someone backed up a truck of out-of-scope content and dumped it in. I've never seen paragraph after paragraph of content about state geology added to a small town article. It's certainly not suggested at WP:USCITIES. You are welcome to start a discussion on the article talk page. Perhaps the article needs to be re-named. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:28, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I haven't read all of the FA/GA background, but it appears that one or both editors involved here is removing material and then, after being reverted, removing some or all of that material again prior to a discussion. That appears to go against the spirit of WP:BRD. I encourage you both to continue discussion, perhaps including the editors who recommended inclusion of the disputed content. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: I started a discussion at Talk:Manganese, Minnesota#Undue geologic details. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jonesey95. I will be doing that and more. Thank you once again for being a most excellent copy editor (again, my apologies to Bill and Ted)!
- Regards, DrGregMN (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I haven't read all of the FA/GA background, but it appears that one or both editors involved here is removing material and then, after being reverted, removing some or all of that material again prior to a discussion. That appears to go against the spirit of WP:BRD. I encourage you both to continue discussion, perhaps including the editors who recommended inclusion of the disputed content. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Cochiti Pueblo
Hello Magnolia, hope all is well with you and yours. I think you may have made a mistake on the Cochiti, New Mexico article by removing the native name for Cochiti. Several of the Pueblos in New Mexico are reverting to the native names, and I think we should respect their traditions. (For example, Santo Domingo Pueblo is known as Kewa, and San Juan Pueblo is now known as Ohkay Owingeh, etc.) On the Cochiti Pueblo's official website, it states the native name is: ko-tyīt' in Keresan (which is the language spoken by the Cochiti people along with English and some Spanish). See here: [2]. Let me know what you think. Netherzone (talk) 22:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Netherzone: I hope all is well. I self-reverted. The official local language may indeed not be English. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
San Ramon Congressional District
California's recently redrew the state's congressional districts and San Ramon is NOT represented by Nancy Pelosi. The average person would easily know that Pelosi represents San Francisco which is quite a hike from San Ramon, so I don't know where "Pelosi representing San Ramon" comes from. Thanks, and please like, look at the most recent congressional district to find out. Txu139 (talk) 01:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Glen Park (Toronto) Deletion Page
The Yorkdale-Glen Park neighbourhood boundaries only enscapulate part of the "Glen Park neighbourhood" (west of the Allen Expressway). The "neighbourhood" itself is not recognized by its locals (myself included) and other Torontonians unlike nearby [Lawrence Manor], [Lawrence Heights], or [Forest Hill]. Due to [WP:NOR], we can't make up a neighbourhood uncorroborated by secondary sources.
If we used relatively obscure official neighbourhoods, the well-known Lawrence Heights would have to be deleted. In conclusion, we are in quandary. The information about the area should be kept, but the question is where.
Please note this is my first deletion nomination. If I'm unaware of a certain solution, please propose it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FortUser (talk • contribs) 15:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Withrow, Minnesota
The definition of what constitutes a ghost town has been a subject of debate:
The definition of a ghost town varies between individuals, and between cultures. Some writers discount settlements that were abandoned as a result of a natural or human-made disaster or other causes using the term only to describe settlements that were deserted because they were no longer economically viable; T. Lindsey Baker, author of Ghost Towns of Texas, defines a ghost town as "a town for which the reason for being no longer exists". Some believe that any settlement with visible tangible remains should not be called a ghost town; others say, conversely, that a ghost town should contain the tangible remains of buildings. Whether or not the settlement must be completely deserted, or may contain a small population, is also a matter for debate. Generally, though, the term is used in a looser sense, encompassing any and all of these definitions. American author Lambert Florin's defined a ghost town as "a shadowy semblance of a former self".
Also, at least one reference refers to Withrow as a ghost town: [1]
Because the definition as to what constitutes a ghost town is a subject of debate (in my view it fits the description), I am willing to let this one go. Thank you for looking at it, though. We'll get back to Manganese, Minnesota when I have the time to devote to it (I see you've gutted that even further). DrGregMN (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Ghost Towns of Washington County: Withrow Once a Prosperous Settlement". Historical Whisperings. 39 (2). Washington County Historical Society: 9. July 2013.
- @DrGregMN: Please discuss on the article talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Launch Cement, California
Hey, Magnolia677. Thanks for having my back. I truly appreciate it. Hey, I want to launch an article about a nearby ghost town called Cement, but I cannot find any RS to cite. Do you have any RS access or ideas? Thanks. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
00:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- @WikiWikiWayne: Hey there. Let me poke around and see what I can find. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 00:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- @WikiWikiWayne: It's not listed in GNIS. Do you know the county, or know its location? Magnolia677 (talk) 10:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- M677: Cement is west of Vacaville, and east of Suisun City and Fairfield. North of Travis Air Force Base. Cement Hill Road. Solano County. Very close to and south of the I-80. Near a golf course now. On a hill. Was bigger in population than those three cities combined, back in its heyday. Cheers!
{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
11:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)- I just spied part of it on Google Satellite at this plus-code: 7XXV+89R Fairfield, California. Cheers!
{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
12:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)- (talk page watcher) @WikiWikiWayne:, I like historical town articles so I poked around and found a few sources.[3][4][5][6] The Fairfield book has a chapter on Cement, but that's the one chapter of the book not viewable in Google Books. Don't think you can get much more than a stub from these. Schazjmd (talk) 15:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Also, if you contact the Vacaville Heritage Council, it looks like they have a copy of the December 1986 issue of Solano Historian which has an article on Cement. (add) Also, a KPIX Channel 5 Eye on the Bay video piece on Cement. Schazjmd (talk) 17:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- I just spied part of it on Google Satellite at this plus-code: 7XXV+89R Fairfield, California. Cheers!
- M677: Cement is west of Vacaville, and east of Suisun City and Fairfield. North of Travis Air Force Base. Cement Hill Road. Solano County. Very close to and south of the I-80. Near a golf course now. On a hill. Was bigger in population than those three cities combined, back in its heyday. Cheers!
- @WikiWikiWayne: It's not listed in GNIS. Do you know the county, or know its location? Magnolia677 (talk) 10:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
@WikiWikiWayne and Schazjmd: What an interesting find, in the middle of such a populated area! Note that Wikipedia:WikiProject California/GNIS cleanup task force/All has a redlink for Cement, California. It was a company town with homes and commerce. Please see:
- M677 and Schazjmd. The stub for Cement, California is up. Please hit it. Thanks. Cheers!
{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
02:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)- @WikiWikiWayne: Nice work. I added Cement to WP:US50 (so it should last a few thousand years). Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, M677! I put the US50 template on the talk page. Thanks for the photo and edits. Please add content, if you have time. Cheers!
{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
22:34, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, M677! I put the US50 template on the talk page. Thanks for the photo and edits. Please add content, if you have time. Cheers!
- @WikiWikiWayne: Nice work. I added Cement to WP:US50 (so it should last a few thousand years). Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Malay (record producer)
Kia ora Magnolia677, I'm happy to add sources, but typically for discography sections sources are seen as unnecessary if any content has its own page (and all these albums/singles have pages). --Prosperosity (talk) 22:48, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity: Your edit was unsourced on the target articles too. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- It was sourced, but my source removed by User:Ss112 as per MOS:ALBUM, both "All She Wrote" and "Fade Away" are sourced from Tidal. Six60 is unsourced but I'm happy to add a {{Cite AV media}} source to the Malay discog if it helps. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Bridgeport, Connecticut
While some reverts you made kind of make sense, you gave no reason as to why you removed the interactive map that I added. And your reasons are extremely vague. The "One of the photos you added was of a ship in the middle of Long Island Sound.' is quite literally the iconic Bridgeport-Port Jefferson ferry. Please have some consideration to how Bridgeporters can feel about boats in their respective city as I could have recognized it from a mile away. You may also want to question New York City's infobox with a similar image of a ferry. This kind of pushing on straws illustrates a sense of over-exerting yourself in this situation. Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 20:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: I explained the issue on your talk page. No editor is going to pick through 27 test edits in a row to find the one edit that wasn't a test. More importantly, you are now edit warring to add unsourced content to biographies. Please note that Wikipedia's WP:BLP policy is very strict, and adding a source in an edit summary is not sufficient. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure how you expect me to source adding proof of Portuguese heritage on each biography page apart from already curated lists of biographies from a legitimate international cooperative organization such as FLAD. Furthermore, you did not make ANY mention on my talk page about my test edits. While I do understand the issue with that, again you are seriously over-exerting yourself, particularly when I added the catergory of Americans of Portuguese descent to a page that quite literally says Americans of Azorean descent (Dylan Fernandes). I ask you again, what country is the Azores apart of? Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: Please read WP:CATV. It will explain why you should add the most specific category (ie. don't add both child and parent cats), and why you cannot add a category to something that is not sourced within the article. Again, Wikipedia's BLP policies are very strict, and you cannot add an unsourced claim of ethnicity. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I apologize for my combative tone then since you've been at least treating me with respect. I will follow this guidelines, thank you. Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:43, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Magnolia677, since you did not argue against my infobox, rather arguing against the inclusion of the image of the ferry, what suggestions do you have to take the place of the large Bridgeport-Ferry ship? I seriously disagree with you that "a photo of a ship in the middle of Long Island Sound", is not a good representation of our city. Being a resident of Bridgeport myself the Bridgeport-Port Jefferson ferry is considered our crown jewel. I digress.
- What suggestions do you think would rather suite and compliment everything else? Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: How about a picture of Bridgeport-Port Jefferson ferry, with a clear image of Bridgeport in the background. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: The image you uploaded was wonderful, but it's going to be deleted because it's a copyright violation. Look for some images on Flickr that are "commercial use & mods allowed". Magnolia677 (talk) 23:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- I might take a picture myself when the opportunity rises. Thanks for the heads up. Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 03:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: The image you uploaded was wonderful, but it's going to be deleted because it's a copyright violation. Look for some images on Flickr that are "commercial use & mods allowed". Magnolia677 (talk) 23:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: How about a picture of Bridgeport-Port Jefferson ferry, with a clear image of Bridgeport in the background. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Bloodclotboy12: Please read WP:CATV. It will explain why you should add the most specific category (ie. don't add both child and parent cats), and why you cannot add a category to something that is not sourced within the article. Again, Wikipedia's BLP policies are very strict, and you cannot add an unsourced claim of ethnicity. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure how you expect me to source adding proof of Portuguese heritage on each biography page apart from already curated lists of biographies from a legitimate international cooperative organization such as FLAD. Furthermore, you did not make ANY mention on my talk page about my test edits. While I do understand the issue with that, again you are seriously over-exerting yourself, particularly when I added the catergory of Americans of Portuguese descent to a page that quite literally says Americans of Azorean descent (Dylan Fernandes). I ask you again, what country is the Azores apart of? Bloodclotboy12 (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Nesbit
Hey. I added Jerry Lee Lewis to Nesbit, Mississippi based on sources I had seen, then looked at the history and noticed you had previously removed that from the article. I see a lot of sources that say it was in Nesbit, but you obviously disagree, so I thought I would check in to see your rationale. Thanks in advance. — Jacona (talk) 16:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- For reference, in addition to the source in the article, this gives the address including street and number as being in Nesbit. — Jacona (talk) 16:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Jacona: Different maps suggested this was just a mailing address, but I agree, it's in Nesbit. My apology, as the last time I was there I was a bit confused, because frankly, I had just been in Love, and it left me pretty mixed up. If you've ever been in Love you'll know how confusing everything can be! Anyway, I got a picture and drove eight miles north to Nesbit. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Removed Content Re: Citations
Hi
I received a message from you saying one/some of my edit(s) have been removed for lacking citation. Which edits are you referring to? Only edits I'm aware of are adding specific names to some radio websites. I was either a listener or en employee at this station(s), so my edit(s) is/are factually based. I'm afraid the link you provided on how to provide a citation was confusing. I'm simply trying to enhance the content on this/these page(s)by providing new and factual information. I was under the impression that this is one of the core foundations of Wiki. Top40RadioHistory (talk) 20:30, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Top40RadioHistory: Try this... Help:Referencing for beginners. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:16, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi
- Thanks for your effort to help, but I'm still confused. The type of content I've added makes reference to employees of radio stations. In some cases, I worked with these people (whose name I've added) or listened to them. There is no easy way to corroborate this from a newspaper, book or website. The template on citations seems quite restrictive. Is it not enough that I worked there or knew the people who worked there? There's nothing controversial about that. In any event, I wrote The Evolution of Top 40 Radio in Vancouver as an unpublished work for my degree in Communications at SFU, so I have knowledge of the personnel at various radio stations in Vancouver. If this isn't good enough, I'll move on and not bother to make any further effort to enhance these specific articles. Top40RadioHistory (talk) 23:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Top40RadioHistory: Unfortunately, original research cannot be added to Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:58, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Regarding various images
Hey man, iv'e noticed a pattern in which you seem to be trying to revert various edits iv'e made, nearly all of them about lead images. It almost feels targeted, since no one else has seemed to revert my edits over similar reasons this continuously for nearly a year. Also, the reasons tend to be kinda nitpicky from what ive gathered, usually boiling down to things like "too much (blank)".
Could we talk about this? I want to resolve this. Thanks
WeaponizingArchitecture | scream at me 23:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @WeaponizingArchitecture: I have responded to our recent discussion at Talk:Birmingham, Alabama#New infobox images. I have about 10,000 US cities and towns on my watchlist, and I frequently revert edits which do not seem an improvement. Others editors also frequently revert my edits for the same reason. When you decide to replace infobox images, with your own images that do not appear to be of the same quality, I take issue with it, because it does not improve the article. Ultimately, a consensus is reached, as happened at Talk:Fargo, North Dakota#RfC on Infobox Image. Moreover, I do not believe I have ever reverted one of your edits on an article that was not already on my watchlist. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for telling me about the watchlist. WeaponizingArchitecture | scream at me 13:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Reverted Edits
Hey Magnolia677, I noticed you have removed my cited source's multiple times. Is this a personal issue because you have also pretty much went through the rest of my edits and reverted them. Please inform me why and also what is a "reliable" source since their own website is not. I do not want to be rude in this so do not take it that way, I am just tired of mostly you specifically reverting all of my edits. I understand the ones that are not necessary, but why my cited ones. Thanks. - SGTMakarov (talk) 00:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @SGTMakarov: Thank you for writing. Please note that at Supremacy 1914, another editor also reverted you for the same reason. Please take a moment to read WP:RS. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Magnolia677: Thank you for replying, the reason I never added a source was due to it not having one when I reverted it. There is also another on that article called "Call of War" without a source. Thanks. SGTMakarov (talk) 12:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)