Talk:Adolf Hitler

Why can't "citizenship" be changed to "nationality" in the infobox?

My edit has been reverted without any explanations so I'm confused. Thedarkknightli (talk) 03:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Because "nationality" makes no sense when Hitler was stateless for a period of time. "Citizenship" is the best and most precise description of the field. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Technically he didn't have 'citizenship' either until around 1910 (assuming age of majority to have been 21). I'm not sure that the stateless have 'nationality' either, though they definitely don't have 'citizenship'. No strong feelings either way - just noting this.Pincrete (talk) 06:39, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken, I read this discussion before and didn't have any strong feelings either way but on reflection surely saying he was initially a citizen of Austria doesn't make sense because Austria wasn't its own state until after the First World War?--Llewee (talk) 11:43, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Bullshit. Both the Austrian Empire (1804–1867) and Austria-Hungary (1867–1918) are previous Austrian states. Dimadick (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

For completely other reasons, we looked into this 7 or 8 years ago. If I remember this correctly, citizenship (rights and responsibilities) and nationality (identity?) were both seen as being 'divided' into the different constituents (rather than invested in a unified dual-monarchy) . So yes, AH would have been Austrian, not Austro-Hungarian, which didn't really exist as a legal or practical category. Though he wouldn't have been a citizen of anywhere until he was legally adult, whereas nationality isn't age-linked. Pincrete (talk) 15:16, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it definitely wouldn't be right to refer "Austro-Hungarian" citizenship. I wasn't entirely sure whether there was even an actual "Austrian" citizenship pre-WW1 because theoretically even the "Austrian" part (Cisleithania) was made up of separate 'crown lands' only in personal union of the emperor - although his birthplace was in the 'Archduchy of Austria' crown land. But according to this source the 1811 Civil Code introduced a common Austrian citizenship among all the crown lands. DeCausa (talk) 16:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-Confirmed protect edit request.

I would like to change the parties bit, because the nazi party was founded in 1920 from the dissolved German Workers' party in 1920, and was a member of the nazi party from one day iirc. Death Editor 2 (talk) 18:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

It was renamed. Slatersteven (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I know but it says 'Political party: Nazi (From 1921)' the 1921 part is what I have a problem with, because he wasn't a member of the nazi party from 1921, he was a member from the very start! Death Editor 2 (talk) 18:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I see, yes that needs changing, as that was when he became head (which I suspect is what it is meant to say). Slatersteven (talk) 18:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

The next line in the infobox says "Other political affiliations: German Workers' Party (1919–1920)" so I'm not sure and additions or amendments are needed. — Diannaa (talk) 19:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I added "leader", to make it "party ... Nazi (leader from 1921)" Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok cool, that makes it clearer. — Diannaa (talk) 23:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Image

How about changing the current image to this? 83.52.72.154 (talk) 13:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

That image has been flipped horizontally; I would not use it. — Diannaa (talk) 13:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

It’s impossible to use RotateTool to correct it (as it only rotates images clockwise), so it must be flipped manually 83.52.76.251 (talk) 08:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)