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:No, please read the above section detailing why this is inappropriate. &#8213;<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px">&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span>]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 13:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
:No, please read the above section detailing why this is inappropriate. &#8213;<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px">&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney|<span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span>]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 13:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

== inclusion of race car driver in lead sentence ==

i am confused about the demand to eliminate the inclusion of "race car driver" from the lead sentence. when we follow the sources, the VAST majority of modern coverage of Muniz include the race car driving.

i scrolled through hundreds of search results for Muniz from Google news and the article below is the only one of those many results in coverage from the past year that do NOT include "race car driver" in their descriptions, most have it as part of the headline.

https://www.cbr.com/bryan-cranston-debunks-malcolm-in-the-middle-revival-claim/ [[Special:Contributions/67.220.13.96|67.220.13.96]] ([[User talk:67.220.13.96|talk]]) 14:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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Former good article nomineeFrankie Muniz was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
May 6, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed

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GA Failure

  • Poor introduction
  • No Fair Use Rationale on the images
  • Various unsourced statements
  • References linked before grammatical notes, should be after

Needs work, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 20:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an idea Einstein, fix it yourself! You seem to have an issue with it like nobody else.

You missed:
  • Usual unsourced ethnic background though inclusion in categories despite lack of evidence.
62.25.106.209 16:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nolan quote

"Christopher Nolan, the director of Batman Begins, and its sequel The Dark Knight, has stated that he would cast Muniz as the role of Robin if he had to. However, Nolan has stated that as long as he is directing the franchise, Robin will not be cast."

This quote makes no sense to me.Andrew zot 22:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wood-Ridgewood

I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the article gives his birthplace as both Wood-Ridge and Ridgewood. Anyone? Cao Wei 02:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frankie was actually born in Wood-Ridge...Michaela92399 02:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Muniz in Tears for Fears video?

Is Frankie Muniz in the video "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears? There's a kid in it who looks exactly like him, but I'm not sure when this video was made? He may have been too young at the time. Davez621 18:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frankie wasn't even BORN when the song(and accompanying video) came out...IN 1984!...Michaela92399 02:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Muñiz

Does he really use the tilde? It doesn't seem to show up in any of the shows or movies that I've seen. RickK 04:29, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

  • I'm something of a fan, and no he never uses the tilde. Rhymeless 07:07, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

He does not have a middle name. There is no James. Has been removed. Source: http://www.frankie-muniz.info/multimedia/aollivedl.html

Then should the tildes and acute accents be removed from his name wherever they appear in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofa jazz man (talk • contribs) 23:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Former actor...current racing driver?

IMDB have today reported that Muniz has given up acting in order to concentrate on a professional racing career in the Champ Car Atlantic Series. -- Delsource (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arrested Development guest appearance

He made a memorable in Arrested Development. I'll add it in here.

Frankie Muniz Heart Attack?

On the article, there is a section referring to Frankie Muniz recently having a heart attack. I cannot find any news sources mentioning Frankie Muniz post July 22nd, 2007, and surely this would have seen a mention in the new. It should be removed from the main page immediately unless a third-party source can be linked to right away. Allthemodrnthgs 20:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It NEVER happened!...all those tabloids that are geared towards those Jonas Brothers fans are now assaulting Frankie's health in order to grab more sales from the newsstands!...I don't believe that even Harvey Levin's TMZ.com would stoop THAT low as to believe such nonsense!...Baldwin91006 17:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Death?????

did he actually get in an accident? can this be verafied? i've searched google, google news and foxnews and can't find anything. Orangefizzlebiz 04:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, he's STILL alive!...Baldwin91006 17:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

Seems like someone's determined to retain "James" as Frankie's middle name, even though he NEVER had one!;please remove all references to a middle name from the page at once...thanks,Baldwin91006 17:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nop matter how many timews all of us have deleted his middle naem saying he DOESN'T have one, there's an idiot who keeps putting it back in...please straighten it out once and for all:remove Frankie's middle name!...Baldwin91006 17:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the eighth time, there's a person who keeps insisting that he HAS a middle name and keeps restoring it...PLEASE STOP!...Baldwin91006 (talk) 03:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the ninth TIME, please stop re-inserting a "middle name" in this article!...HE NEVER HAD ONE AT ALL!...Michaela92399 (talk) 03:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

born in 1997 ??

This article currently says born in 1997. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.184.137.243 (talk) 15:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

His Religion

Does Anyone knows what is his religion ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.94.38.150 (talk) 11:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Considering his ancestry [Irish/Italian and "Puerto Rican"] hes probably Catholic, but i have no sources to back it up.

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

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  • "about" :
    • {{cite web | title=About.com | work=Transitioning to adult roles with Jason Riner | url=http://actionadventure.about.com/cs/weeklystories/a/aa031104_2.htm | accessmonthday=March 23 | accessyear=2006}}
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DumZiBoT (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Titus

Does anyone know the proper link to the Titus-article? It now refers back to the roman emperor instead of a movie/show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin.lemstra (talk • contribs) 12:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date

I have trouble believing he was born in 1985, and was 15 when Malcolm in the Middle began to air, he is supposed to be around 12 or 11 at the beggining of the show, looks like he's about 9 in my opinion and was supposedly 15... Also, in My dog Skip, (form 2000 as well as Malcolm in the middle), he looks like he's age 8, when acording to when he was born, he was really 15.

Either he has some sort of Age retardation where he looks 10 years younger than he really is, someone messed with the article, or The movies and films he was in where filmed 4 years before they debuted. There is no source for this birthdate, and I don't believe it one bit.Altenhofen 05:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOL yeah wtf. Someone needs to fix that up. Kausill (Talk) (Contribs) 12:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What the hell? According to imdb.com his birthdate is 1985. LOL. He looks nine. Kausill (Talk) (Contribs) 12:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

age

ummmmm,are you sure he is 23? Because that would make him 15 when he played in My Dog Skip. 173.55.170.16 (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is what I said, and in My Dog Skip, he looks like he's 7. Altenhofen 18:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Playstation Underground

As I recall he did a video for the playstation underground demo discs for E3. I don't remember much of it but if anyone could edit it in to the article in an orderly manner then that would be great.--166.164.78.94 (talk) 21:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Found it on a youtube reference about the year 2000 E3, put it, it's now in the filmography, wasn't sure were to reference for that, sorry anyway here's the reference, here's the link

Resolved

Career as a drummer

So let me start by saying that I'm not even sure if this is the right place to ask this question, and if it's not, I apologize for the mistake. I and several others before me added that he's now a drummer for a band called You Hang Up and it was removed because the band is non-notable, which is true. My question is does notability refer to the subject of the article or to everything in the article? It just would seem that because he's a notable person, that his career change to a drummer is by extension notable, whether the band he's currently drumming for is notable or not. I'd just like some clarification. Again, sorry if this isn't the right place for that.Willcrys 84 (talk) 03:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability refers to anything that is added, item by item. That Muniz joined a non-notable band is a reflection on the band's notability, not Muniz's. It was removed previously because the addition wasn't sourced, but come on. It's very hard to know how many people, actors, etc., play in what amounts to a garage band that has gone nowhere. It doesn't make it notable on its own legs. Now, if the band releases an album, that might be different. There's nothing to support saying it is an actual career change instead of a hobby. Wildhartlivie (talk) 13:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't unsourced (http://www.popeater.com/2010/02/24/frankie-muniz-you-hang-up-interview/). In that interview he actually says that he considers it a job. Not wanting to mention his current band is understandable, I don't get why there shouldn't be any mention of drumming at all, when he has said himself that he's pursuing it professionally.Willcrys 84 (talk) 15:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, it wasn't always sourced, see here and here. You added popeater.com, a site that isn't considered a reliable source, which renders it not sourced. Like I said, once the band does something notable, maybe then. Lot's of people join bands and go nowhere with it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is it non-reliable even though it's showing an interview of him? SamEV (talk) 16:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it is. Non-reliable basically means that it is not considered a legitimate source. That interview could (not saying it IS) be faked, or cobbed from a legitimate source. Once in a while, an unreliable source may have legitimate content, but not consistently. Wildhartlivie (talk) 17:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I thought. Thank you. SamEV (talk) 17:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I never meant to imply that it was always sourced, just that it was sourced when I posted it. I don't understand why popeater is considered non-reliable here. It's used as a source on a fair amount of other articles and it's published by AOL. So does the fact that it's a gossip site definitively preclude it from being a reliable source, even though most of the content is consistently verifiable? Willcrys 84 (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Constantly verifiable" says that it can be checked against the original source, which is what should be used. I explained what makes something reliable or not reliable. As for being used on other pages, there's a basic tenet here: Other stuff exists. Just because it's slipped in on some articles doesn't lend it credibility. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now I'm just completely confused. So nothing can be used as a source unless some other non-Wikipedia entity first uses it as a source?Willcrys 84 (talk) 22:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, but you said the content was consistently verifiable. Verifiable means it can be compared to the source of the article/statement/news story to verify, or check, the facts. If popeater is verifiable, that would mean they are copying a story from another place. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:19, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess me and Wikipedia have different definitions of verifiable. I'd always thought that if something was verifiable, then it could be proven to be true. I think I get it now. Thanks a lot.Willcrys 84 (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disrespect

Is it just me or a lot of lines are disrespecting him ? I'm referring to his racing career, in particular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.104.108.6 (talk) 07:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do we report spammers? People are defiling this page with false info/profanity. The IP 74.5.31.218 seems to be part of it. 99.52.103.169 (talk) 05:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changed quote from reference #2, previously read "one of Hollywood's most bangable teens." Correct reference is "one of Hollywood's most bankable teens." — Preceding unsigned comment added by S&J Wstch (talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stuck On You (film)

The third paragraph under the "Career" section states, "In 2003, he made a cameo appearance as Cher's underage boyfriend in Stuck on You." The Filmography chart, however, says his role was "Cher Son". Can someone please verify or disprove his cameo appearance/role in this film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inheritor10 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestors

The article says that his ancestors come from the region of Asturias, Spain and cites as a reference an Answers webpage that uses this same wikipedia page as primary source of information.

I think it should be deleted or changed, but I have not find any reference online that does not use WikiPedia as the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.96.49 (talk) 09:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Transient ischemic attack/s

I think that referring to a transient ischemic attack as a "mini-stroke" is too cutesy. Just leave the TIA linked; if a reader is interested in looking up what it means, they can do so. Otherwise, it sounds like a kid's news item from the Weekly Reader >_< .

More to the point, mention a cause of the TIA. (Though frequently a direct cause isn't found, it could be due to a condition like atrial fibrillation.) Has he had any more, were there any long-term effects from the episode, does he now take medication to prevent more TIAs, does the condition interfere with race car driving, that kind of thing. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No middle name

There have been repeated attempts to add an unsourced middle name to the article. Per Muniz, he does not have a middle name. Schazjmd (talk) 16:13, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:ROLEBIO

Willform and 117.20.68.68 please do not add ...and stock car racing driver. to the opening sentence. This does not comply with the policy which states that The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 19:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's gonna be due for a reevaluation based on how the 2023 season goes. His Twitter is almost exclusively racing content, including the bio. Spagooder (talk) 23:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tollens: would you like to elaborate on why we should go against MOS:ROLEBIO, or can you show that there is as much WP:WEIGHT in reliable sources to refer to this subject as a racing driver as there is for his (well-established) acting career? ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  17:03, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry - didn't know there was a talk page discussion here (in retrospect should've checked) and only saw the reversion due to lack of sources - had I known I would've come here first. Giving the article a more thorough read, I agree that his racing career is already given the appropriate weight by talking about it later in the second paragraph. Apologies for the hasty reversion. Tollens (talk) 21:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All good. Thanks for the reply. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  22:19, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Permission

Would it be fine if I added "professional racing driver" to his biography? Thermicknight7 (talk) 08:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, please read the above section detailing why this is inappropriate. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  13:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

inclusion of race car driver in lead sentence

i am confused about the demand to eliminate the inclusion of "race car driver" from the lead sentence. when we follow the sources, the VAST majority of modern coverage of Muniz include the race car driving.

i scrolled through hundreds of search results for Muniz from Google news and the article below is the only one of those many results in coverage from the past year that do NOT include "race car driver" in their descriptions, most have it as part of the headline.

https://www.cbr.com/bryan-cranston-debunks-malcolm-in-the-middle-revival-claim/ 67.220.13.96 (talk) 14:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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