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* '''Delete'''. Rioting has occurred after several events that also led to BLM protests or other action, so nothing Floyd-related is an appropriate target. Targeting the main BLM page is unhelpful, as readers looking for this term would find no relevant content there, and they may be looking for riots that are associated with BLM only in non-reliable sources (this is common). [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 18:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
* '''Delete'''. Rioting has occurred after several events that also led to BLM protests or other action, so nothing Floyd-related is an appropriate target. Targeting the main BLM page is unhelpful, as readers looking for this term would find no relevant content there, and they may be looking for riots that are associated with BLM only in non-reliable sources (this is common). [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 18:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per nom. This user's other redirects need scrutiny, too. I just nominated two others for deletion. — <samp>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></samp> \\ 18:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' per nom. This user's other redirects need scrutiny, too. I just nominated two others for deletion. — <samp>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></samp> \\ 18:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:Mind-reading. There are thousands of search results for the term, so it's a common name and a perfectly plausible title for the article. [[User:Shankarsivarajan|Shankar Sivarajan]] ([[User talk:Shankarsivarajan|talk]]) 18:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 18:50, 4 February 2024
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 4, 2024.
BLM insurrection
- BLM insurrection → George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
POV redirect. Apparent attempt to compare BLM protests to the January 6 insurrection? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
January 6 hostage crisis
- January 6 hostage crisis → Criminal proceedings in the January 6 United States Capitol attack (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Misleading/POV redirect. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see mention of "Jan 6 hostage crisis" in the citations. Could it belong on one of the Trump articles? DN (talk) 18:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
BLM race riots
- BLM race riots → George Floyd protests (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
WP:RNEUTRAL: …redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion…
No significant coverage using this non-neutral term. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
This looks like an attempt at A fork as they can't get to call it a RIOT at the main page, delete as it's not a likely search term. Slatersteven (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not neutral. No RS calls the protests "race riots". – Muboshgu (talk) 18:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Rioting has occurred after several events that also led to BLM protests or other action, so nothing Floyd-related is an appropriate target. Targeting the main BLM page is unhelpful, as readers looking for this term would find no relevant content there, and they may be looking for riots that are associated with BLM only in non-reliable sources (this is common). Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This user's other redirects need scrutiny, too. I just nominated two others for deletion. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Mind-reading. There are thousands of search results for the term, so it's a common name and a perfectly plausible title for the article. Shankar Sivarajan (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Sociocultural
- Sociocultural → Sociocultural evolution (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Is this target really appropriate for such a general word? I am thinking a soft redirect to Wikidata could be better. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
DAC (operating system)
- DAC (operating system) → CP/M#Eastern derivatives (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"DAC" is not mentioned at the target, and without a mention this redirect is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. DAC was an CP/M derivative mentioned in some of the references. I have now added it to the prose itself. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 14:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Conservatism (diving)
- Conservatism (diving) → Decompression practice#Conservatism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
delete, it is very unlikely that anyone would search for a term including a general topic between brackets. The page Conservatism (disambiguation) already links to the same article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Query Marcocapelle, What evidence or experience do you have to support this opinion? Is there any policy or guidance to support the proposal? Would "conservative diving" or "conservative decompression" be better? Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- There is no policy or guidance that I know of, it is a matter of common sense. What term would people use to search for, other than "conservatism"? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point, but need to choose an alternative. The term conservatism is moderately common among divers, referring to a decompression strategy of risk limitation beyond the nominal use of the decompression algorithms. It is a potential encyclopedic topic as Conservatism (diving), which is why I made the redirect with that title. As I mentioned above, there are alternatives but they might be less likely as search terms. However a search for conservatism without a modifier would get the disambiguation page where a link to whatever the title eventually becomes should be available, so not a crisis once a suitable title is chosen. Decompression conservatism would also be a possible search term. There could be a handful of reasonably plausible alternative search terms of roughly equivalent usefulness, but currently I am leaning towards decompression conservatism as the best alternative for an actual subtopic title. Would that be more acceptable?
Also, there are several other potential topics which are currently redirects with titles including (diving) as a disambiguator. Should I be be looking for alternatives or just leaving out the disambiguator when it is not currently necessary, but I am aware of potential ambiguities that may make disambiguation necessary later? Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 12:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point, but need to choose an alternative. The term conservatism is moderately common among divers, referring to a decompression strategy of risk limitation beyond the nominal use of the decompression algorithms. It is a potential encyclopedic topic as Conservatism (diving), which is why I made the redirect with that title. As I mentioned above, there are alternatives but they might be less likely as search terms. However a search for conservatism without a modifier would get the disambiguation page where a link to whatever the title eventually becomes should be available, so not a crisis once a suitable title is chosen. Decompression conservatism would also be a possible search term. There could be a handful of reasonably plausible alternative search terms of roughly equivalent usefulness, but currently I am leaning towards decompression conservatism as the best alternative for an actual subtopic title. Would that be more acceptable?
- There is no policy or guidance that I know of, it is a matter of common sense. What term would people use to search for, other than "conservatism"? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Draft:List of Shahbanus of Persia
- Draft:List of Shahbanus of Persia → List of royal consorts of Persia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redundant draft that cannot serve as a plausible redirect. A proper redirect with the same title already exists. I suggest this draft be deleted under the G6 criteria for maintenance. Keivan.fTalk 05:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Finders Keepers(film) and etc.
- Finders Keepers(film) → Finders Keepers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fox(film) → Fox (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Freeze(film) → Aa Dekhen Zara (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hadewijch(film) → Hadewijch (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Homeboy(film) → Homeboy (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Inferno(film) → Inferno (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jannat(film) → Jannat (2008 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jennifer's Body(film) → Jennifer's Body (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jogayya(film) → Jogayya (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kabaddi(film) → Kabadi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kane & Lynch(film) → Kane & Lynch: Dead Men#Film (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kick-Ass(film) → Kick-Ass (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Last Day of Summer(film) → Last Day of Summer (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Maestro(film) → Maestro (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Masala(film) → Kalakalappu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Meera(film) → Meera (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Metse(film) → Metse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Midhya(film) → Midhya (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paradesi(film) → Paradesi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Peekay(film) → PK (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prema Kadha(film) → Prema Katha (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pride And Glory(film) → Pride and Glory (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prithvi(film) → Prithvi (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Public Sex(film) → Public Sex (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Rebellion(film) → Rebellion (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Rebel(film) → Rebel#Film and television (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Red Rose(film) → Red rose (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Red Sun, Black Sand(film) → Letters from Iwo Jima (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Retouch(film) → Retouch (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Rishi(film) → Rishi (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Reunion Solitaire(film) → Lukas Ammann (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Roti(film) → Roti (1974 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Royal Hunt of the Sun(film) → The Royal Hunt of the Sun (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Salim(film) → Salim (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Saleem(film) → Saleem (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Saptapadi(film) → Saptapadi (1961 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- School Ties(film) → School Ties (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Season(film) → Season (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Shattered(film) → Shattered (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Shishira(film) → Shishira (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Smart City(film) → Smart City (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Addams family(film) → The Addams Family (disambiguation)#Films (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Dark(film) → The Dark (2005 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Gangster(film) → Gangster (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Likely Lads(film) → The Likely Lads (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Parole Officer(film) → The Parole Officer (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The World at War(film) → The World at War (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Titan Find(film) → Creature (1985 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Troll(film) → Troll (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Torso(film) → Torso (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Varalaru(film) → Varalaru (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yes Man(film) → Yes Man (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yogi(film) → Yogi (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- You Are The One(film) → You Are the One (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yes man(film) → Yes Man (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Zhagaram(film) → Zhagaram (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The selection of all Film(film) redirects (from F-Z). All of these articles have had errors in the means of disambiguation, and in this group, all are getting 0 views in accordance with [1]. Additioally, pages that can be fixed, have since been fixed (therefore being excempt and not listed in this nomination). With that out of the way, errors that are "popular" by the massviews, as well as pages with history, are also not being touched in this group. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all (including the ones in the back-to-back nominations that aren't merged into this one). We don't need to retain "bad typos" that completely mangle the title by running the disambiguator up against the base name. Not likely search terms, and we do not want to encourage someone to get the idea in their head that more of these should be created "just in case" or we could end up with an unbelievable number of them, especially if someone went nuts with AWB or another fast-moving and semi-automated tool. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 05:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- PS: Given the anon's observation immediately below, the most sensible fix would be for an admin or page-mover to simply move-without-redirect in most of these cases to the properly spaced version. Two birds, one stone. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RDAB due to the missing spaces between the words and the disambiguators. The titles with the correct spacing, Metse (film), Prema Kadha (film), Royal Hunt of the Sun (film), School Ties (film), The Addams family (film), and Yes man (film), don't exist. 176.33.241.125 (talk) 07:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all. Once there are no incoming links left. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all See also WT:CSD#Improper disambiguation redirects, where a CSD criterion for RDAB has been proposed. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Cheetoh cat
- Cheetoh cat → Felid hybrids#Confirmed domestic cat × felid hybrids (talk · links · history · stats)
- Cheetoh (cat) → Bengal cat#Cheetoh (talk · links · history · stats)
- Cheetoh → Bengal cat#Cheetoh (talk · links · history · stats)
- Cheetohs → Cheetos (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. No longer mentioned at either target cat article. It is sourceable that such an experimental cat crossbreed was in development at one time, but it is not covered even at List of experimental cat breeds, which is where it would be covered if there eventually turns out to be enough sourcing that this passes WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE (passing WP:NOTABILITY is unlikely). So, no prejudice toward recreating these redirs later, if it ends up with an entry in the list article. PS: The bare Cheetohs should probably not redirect to Cheetos, since anyone looking for the exact string "Cheetohs" is probably looking for the cats, and it's a trademark (even if not a notable one). We generally should not redirect one trademark to another owned by another party, even if they are similar. Cf. also WP:SMALLDETAILS. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
PS: If the sourcing on that gets done, it'll probably be by me, but the list article already has unsourced stuff in it, and going through it one by one and either sourcing it enough to keep or removing it as unsourceable is higher priority. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:08, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all, per nom. SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)