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Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_12 this article was removed, it was replaced by [[Megalonyx]] though no rationale was given for the addition other than personal opinion. Considering we are under quota and this is a widespread and behaviourally unique group of anteaters which is also decently common in captivity I think it deserves a place at this level. Maras are a widespread rodent in southern Patagonia that are also extremely widespread in captivity, considering we list other less known rodents from the region such as [[viscacha]] it would make sense to include the mara as well. |
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1. as nom [[User:Maykii|Maykii]] ([[User talk:Maykii|talk]]) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Remove Bubble sort, possible swap with merge sort or Timsort
Bubble sort is a toy sorting algorithm that is exclusively used to motivate sorting algorithms in computer science courses. It is never used for anything in the real world. I think we should definitely remove it but since we are still slightly under quota in this section, we can also swap in merge sort which is another sorting-optimal O(nlogn) algorithm that is frequently used in external sorting on big data systems or timsort which is a variant of merge sort that is optimized to perform better on real-world data and is the default sorting algorithm used by Python and Java. Aurangzebra (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Removal
- Support Swap with merge sort
- as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't understand much but I will trust you, support per nominator. The Blue Rider 16:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support, on 2nd thought, I'd be fine with this for now; I'm neutral on swapping with Timsort but wouldn't mind adding it if we get more slots for Math. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Swap with Timsort
- as nom (equally split in preference between timsort and merge sort - can side with whatever the majority decides) Aurangzebra (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nominator. The Blue Rider 16:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
- I won't oppose cutting bubble-sort (it's not used often), but I do think it's still useful as a theoretical concept. Both educationally and as a sort-of base-case algorithm that suggests other ones as optimizations.
- Would definitely support adding back merge-sort though and also bucket-sort. We're over quota, but I know some other sections can be trimmed aggressively (I know because I did the bikeshedding). Maybe not right now, but I also feel like the entire Math quota eventually belongs more around 1500 slots. Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Add Microsoft Azure
In the market of public cloud server, Microsoft Azure is often reported to have twice the share[1] as Google Cloud Platform which has been listed in level 5. David Xuang (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nom. David Xuang (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Wonder if OneDrive is more vital, but to be honest don't think neither is. The Blue Rider 01:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Swap in for Google Cloud Platform
- Support swap, I wouldn't support adding another service (my "no brands" principle), but you make a really good point about Google Cloud Platform already being listed. I know I personally hear about Microsoft's offering way more than Google's.Zar2gar1 (talk) 04:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support swap. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 07:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support swap. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add some houseplants with taxonomy
Add Spathiphyllum genus
Includes the peace lily and relatives. I'm even looking at one of these bad mama-jamas right now.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Asparagaceae family
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Actual family of asparagus, in addition to a few common houseplants.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Bluebell and asparagus are enough to make it vital. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
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I've heard it referred to as snake-plant and mother-in-law's tongue. You know it when you see it.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apparently significant to some African cultures. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Chlorophytum genus
Includes a few plants, but particularly the spider-plants.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
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The common spider-plant, another popular houseplant.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- They are pretty common decorative plants. I am a bit surprised it isn't listed yet. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Hosta genus
Another relative of asparagus and a common plant for flowerbeds.
- Support
- Support as nom. Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 20:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Armillary sphere
A techonology of ancient times, this innovation held paramount importance, particularly during the Age of Discovery 3. Serving as a navigational cornerstone, its methods through the cosmos enabled astronomers and navigators to understand the celestial movements. More than a tool, it became a symbol of scientific progress. The Blue Rider 23:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 23:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, whether it goes in Astronomy or scientific instruments under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 04:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add motorcycle helmet and bicycle helmet
If important Automobile safety measures like seat belt and airbag are added, we should also add similarly important safety measures for two-wheelers. FYI, Helmet 4 is Level 4.
- Support
- Support as nom. Gizza (talk) 03:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support both, on 2nd thought, we probably could fill in types of helmets a bit more. Doesn't change my vote, but how much does motorcycle helmet overlap with racing helmet? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- common enough. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
Oppose, agree with User:TonyTheTiger (we also don't list hard hat), but as technology, they all seem to share the identical principle covered in helmet. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)- After thinking a bit more, this is a topic that should probably get filled out more. I'm also going to propose a spin-off below. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Too specific. The Blue Rider 16:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion
- I am having difficulty elevating any particular helmet above the others. We have many helmet articles including Combat helmet, Football helmet, Hockey helmet, Batting helmet, Custodian helmet, Firefighter's helmet as well as motorcycle helmet and bicycle helmet to name a few. For a perspective look at Helmet#Gallery. I am not sure these are the two most important ones.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Add Hard hat and Combat helmet
These are two other kinds of helmet, but with very different applications from biking / racing.
- Support
- As nom. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fair. Common. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Still having a hard time getting behind any particular helmets over the others.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Add emerging/futurism concepts
A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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The very concept. "Emerging technologies are technologies whose development, practical applications, or both are still largely unrealized... [but] are often perceived as capable of changing the status quo.". We list some of them already - artificial intelligence, robotics. But there's more to consider. 22 intewikis, ~450 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, good concept to add for more context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Mind uploading
"a speculative process of whole brain emulation in which a brain scan is used to completely emulate the mental state of the individual in a digital computer". 20 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support adding to Tech. I wouldn't oppose if this came up on the Society page with other ideas from speculative fiction. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
"a direct communication pathway between the brain's electrical activity and an external device". Already tested on animals. 34 intewikis, ~700 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, still experimental, but AFAIK this is beyond animal-testing and into studies with people using these for prosthetics. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Already into human testing Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Terraforming
Pretty classic in sf, but also subject to much scientific discourse. 47 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Would definitely support something less speculative though like Afforestation and related articles. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Generation ship
A realistic way to get to other planets. Sf trope too. 21 intewikis, ~175 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech; no opposition to it being in speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Artificial gravity 5
Not just a sf trope (and don't confuse with anti-gravity), can be created by rotation, etc. 25 intewikis, ~335 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, article isn't too speculative, has good details on microgravity training too. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Asteroid mining
Big industry of the future, unless we self-destruct :) 22 intewikis, ~375 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- This one's a toss-up for me. The actual technical side of it isn't too speculative; people talk about it now and it probably could be done if somebody really wanted to. Skeptical the economics will ever let it take off though, at least in my lifetime. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Add Space industry 5
Parent concept to the above. 9 intewikis, 89 ~daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Strong support, but not under Tech. Probably best under Society like with Space tourism. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Space tourism 5
Blanking, just leaving a friendly shout/link to Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Society#Add_Space_tourism from yesterday, I was late here :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Add Space elevator
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Classic proposal/future invention. 50 intewikis, ~750 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, another idea that is (while outwardly simple) a bit too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Wouldn't oppose under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Some key concepts related to Nanotechnology 4. 14 intewikis, ~150 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Another borderline one for me: it can approximately be done right now, but feel like a lot of the concept revolves around more futuristic applications. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Same as above. 22 intewikis, but just ~65 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, close to borderline for me, but article even says it's more focused on the speculative idea, not mundane things like ribosomes. Not opposed if it goes under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Molecular machine 5
Continuing. 32 intewikis, ~135 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, first impression is the article could distinguish natural and artificial instances better (article split?) Doesn't make the concept less vital though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Self-replication 5
Ditto, but somewhat broader concept. 19 intewikis, ~97 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Strong support, but under Science Basics, maybe around the same area we list System. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support under Science Basics, per Zar2gar1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Megastructure
Parent for a ton of interesting concepts related to future engineering. 12 intewikis, ~290 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, seems like the article itself can't decide if it includes currently feasible structures or only more speculative, larger ones. However, would support an article that split out the more feasible bits or Megaproject. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Would rather list Megaproject instead. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Dyson sphere
Perhapos the best known megastructure proposal. 42 intewikis, ~1,9k daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Add Matrioshka brain
More refined version of the above. 19 intewikis, ~315 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
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"the tendency for technologies that were originally unrelated to become more closely integrated and even unified as they develop and advance." 24 intewikis, ~86 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Strong support, another good article for context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Just remembered, but I listed many context articles related to technology when I reworked Template:Technology topics. Check under "Perspectives" and "Related concepts" if you want other ideas for proposals. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Add Fire protection
Because we recently added Fire alarm system 5, Fire hydrant 5 and Smoke detector 5, we should list the parent topic too.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 02:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Magnification and Chatoyancy
Two optical phenomena, magnification in particular being a very basic one, in both everyday life and theory. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nom. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 19:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom --Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Magnification per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:51, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support Magnification only. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose Chatoyancy, this does not seem to be a vital concept ("an optical reflectance effect seen in certain gemstones, woods, and carbon fiber"). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not expecting to change your mind, but do you picture this as less vital than Lv5 in relation to something? We still have 30 slots in physics and can probably free up more like the big list of color spaces. which are arguably more computer standards anyways. I agree chatoyancy probably isn't a Lv4 article, but it's a distinct phenomenon. The fact we're still just adding magnification suggests to me that optical phenomena have been overlooked in general too; we're also missing iridescence, dichroism, and structural coloration. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Zar2gar1 I'd support iridescence (41 interwikis vs 16 for chat...) before chatoyancy. And I'd expect we can find more vital physics concept to fill in the quota. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not expecting to change your mind, but do you picture this as less vital than Lv5 in relation to something? We still have 30 slots in physics and can probably free up more like the big list of color spaces. which are arguably more computer standards anyways. I agree chatoyancy probably isn't a Lv4 article, but it's a distinct phenomenon. The fact we're still just adding magnification suggests to me that optical phenomena have been overlooked in general too; we're also missing iridescence, dichroism, and structural coloration. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
- I'll ping User:Hanif Al Husaini and User:Marchantiophyta - are you sure you want to support both? IMHO this is a bundle of a pretty vital concept and one that is much less so. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Swap: Remove Tencent QQ 5, add WeChat Pay
Tencent QQ as an instant messaging service has largely been superseded by WeChat 5 among offerings from Tencent 5. In contrast, WeChat Pay maintains a duopoly with Alipay 5 for retail payments in China; the two payment platforms are comparable in significance. Both Tencent QQ and WeChat Pay are subsidiaries of Tencent, so this is a straightforward swap.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, swap seems straight-forward. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Not too sure if it is that straight-forward, Chinese applications tend to be all-in-one, so WeChat 5 is already covering WeChat Pay partially. The Blue Rider 12:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Mixed
- Discuss
Swap: Remove Synthetic media, add Generative artificial intelligence 5
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The latter gets way more attention: https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Synthetic_media%7CGenerative_artificial_intelligence
- Support
- As Nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 21:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Covers DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and Midjourney. This type of AI in particular has sparked debate about human-made vs. AI art.
- Support
- As Nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Per Aurangzebra. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
- I think this could start a slippery slope where we will feel compelled to list all modalities when they are inevitably released widely (text-to-video model, AI code generation which does not even have a page yet etc.). Maybe we want to do this (after all, we already do have Speech synthesis 4 which is text-to-speech but this is a much more mature and widely used technology). But I feel like why bloat the list when your proposal for Generative artificial intelligence already covers all of these subfields and more. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I was only a week or so off: https://openai.com/sora. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Technology has become a vital part of education, and it has especially increased after the pandemic.
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. Aurangzebra (talk) 01:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- I'm not seeing a particular importance in the intersection between education and technology. We don't list Health technology or Fintech for example, and I'd argue that technology is a more influential part of those two topics than educational technology. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 04:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Per Feminist. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
- I'm on the fence with this one, like I would support it as a topic under Education in Society, but it's actually too abstract about the actual technology involved to belong in Tech? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- I hear Ed tech on my startup podcasts almost as much as Fintech, which I would support. Is Fintech rightly omitted?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:24, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
The parent topic to Rapid transit 4, Tram 4, Monorail 4, etc.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 12:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
The sibling topic to Suicide prevention 5, this is what you do to stop a suicide if you are past the point of prevention. It is a pretty important topic to Suicide 3, and appears a lot more than prevention in pop culture.
- Support
- As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Don't see why this wouldn't be Level 5. That said, while they technically fit under Death, would the suicide-related articles make more sense somewhere under Health? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- A fairly common practice within the psychiatric field but not on the same level as for instance Kamikaze. The Blue Rider 19:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: I don't see why not, I would argue it is just as important as Suicide prevention 5, especially since it has more of a presence in culture due to being the default way of stopping a suicide in fiction. Besides, Suicide 3 is VA3 and this is a notable enough subtopic to make the list. As you said, it is a fairly common practice. The comparison to Kamikaze also doesn't make much sense to me, since that was part of the Japanese military and not something happening to everyday people. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Kamikaze is a type of suicide thus the comparison. It's a common practice in psychiatric but it's relatively minor, in the sense that it just consists in a couple of questions on whether people have suicidal ideation, a time and date, access to lethal means and if that's so they probably will get admitted to the hospital, but that's the minority of people. Most of the work to mitigate suicide is done through prevention. The Blue Rider 16:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: I don't see why not, I would argue it is just as important as Suicide prevention 5, especially since it has more of a presence in culture due to being the default way of stopping a suicide in fiction. Besides, Suicide 3 is VA3 and this is a notable enough subtopic to make the list. As you said, it is a fairly common practice. The comparison to Kamikaze also doesn't make much sense to me, since that was part of the Japanese military and not something happening to everyday people. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discuss
Remove Fedora Linux and Ubuntu
I think Debian is sufficient for this list for Linux distros. Interstellarity (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- If we are to list a second Linux distro, it should be ChromeOS. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- I would support a swap with ChromeOS. Interstellarity (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Time to denerdize vitals... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. Gizza (talk) 07:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Swap: Remove Chromebook 5, add ChromeOS
ChromeOS consistently has higher page views than Chromebook: [1].
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support addition - I think we should list all major desktop operating systems. Interstellarity (talk) 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support addition, strong oppose removal per Interstellarity. Vileplume (talk) 01:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose removal - I think this article should be level 4. It is the only major desktop computer we don’t list at V4. It is also weird to list the software over the hardware. Interstellarity (talk) 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove iMac
I don’t think we should list any particular models of Macs at this level. Interstellarity (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 22:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Gizza (talk) 07:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- A longstanding personal computer which marked the return of Steve Jobs to Apple and has been consistently popular for 25 years. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Conditional support if Mac (computer) 4 fails at V4. Vileplume (talk) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion
We list NYC subway, but we don’t list the parent organizations similar to how we list MBTA, but not MBTA subway. Interstellarity (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Merger discussion of Boot (medicine) and Walking boot
Please join the discussion at Talk:Boot_(medicine)#Merger_discussion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:04, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- SUPPORT starship.paint (RUN) 09:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Digital audio
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Dysmenorrhea 5
More commonly known as "period pain".
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Everyone gets tired from time to time.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 16:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Sleep deprivation 5
A common condition
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, pretty common. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nowadays people even brag for being sleep deprived, like its a competition of who is the most. The Blue Rider 16:34, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 19:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Another common condition
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:57, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
The parent topic to Autism spectrum, Learning disability 5, etc.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- QuicoleJR (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 16:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Heart failure 5
78 interwikis
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Parent topic of Myocardial infarction 4, aka heart attack. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 16:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Gadget
A common type of product
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 16:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Computation 5
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support, but this may technically belong under Mathematics -> Theoretical Comp Sci. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
A related concept to Computer security 4, with the distinction that computer systems are not necessarily involved.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support, really good practical tech topic (and not just for computers). -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, almost every midsize and large company have a team dedicated to this. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Maintenance 5
A necessary practice for both mechanical and software systems.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support somewhere near the other applied sciences like engineering. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- per above. starship.paint (RUN) 01:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 16:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
A major concept in Occupational safety and health 4.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- QuicoleJR (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Water quality 5
A major concept in Environmental science 5.
- Support
- As nominator. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty important, especially if you live in Flint. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking of which, Flint probably has enough importance for V5, although the proposal for its addition isn’t going well. Vileplume (talk) 01:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Feature phone
We already list Smartphone so this makes sense as a logical addition. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Feature phones only came to be distinguished as "feature phones" upon the popularization of smartphones, at which point the category of "mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier generations of mobile telephones" has become a relatively niche product. I think listing both Smartphone 4 and History of mobile phones 5 adequately cover the subject. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
Remove Opera (web browser)
Too obscure compared to other web browsers we list. Interstellarity (talk) 13:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 13:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support, I'm on the fence about whether we even need any specific browsers, but if we do, the historically big 3 (IE, Mozilla, Chrome) should be plenty. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Opera has significantly more interwikis and daily page views than Microsoft Edge 5. Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 15:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Histology
The study of Tissue (biology) 4.
- Support
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Is there a reason why Tissue (biology) 4 doesn't cover the topic adequately? feminist🩸 (talk) 09:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Histology covers the techniques used to study tissues. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 12:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Wikimedia Foundation and Wiktionary
We list Wikipedia at level 4, but don't list its parent company at level 5. Wiktionary is a good addition as another Wikimedia project we don't list. Interstellarity (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Oppose Wikitionary; relatively minor branch of the Wikimedia Foundation. If any other 'pedia should be added it would be Wikimedia Commons. The Blue Rider 21:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Feels like WP:NAVEL. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Wiktionary, no opinion on WF. Vileplume (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose both. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose both. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:24, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
Better addition than Wiktionary. Interstellarity (talk) 22:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Only 14th in page views last year among articles in Category:Image-sharing websites. Page views for these articles drop off a cliff once you get past Snapchat. We list the top four, and I think that's enough. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per Feminist Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:45, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 23:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Injury in humans 5
The type of Injury 3 that humans are most concerned about.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Camcorder
Important recording device. Interstellarity (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Transcriptome
The entire set of RNA transcript in an organism. We list several omics topics: Genomics 5, Genome 5, Proteomics 5, Proteome 5, Epigenomics 5, Epigenome 5, Metagenomics 5, and Pharmacogenomics 5. Transcriptomics redirects to Transcriptomics techniques, and the Transcriptome article covers the techniques, so it should be sufficient. These are the Google Scholar hits:
- Genomics 5,530,000
- Genome 4,530,000
- Transcriptome 1,430,000
- Transcriptomics 299,000
- Proteome 972,000
- Proteomics 1,850,000
- Epigenome 145,000
- Epigenomics 118,000
- Metagenome 103,000
- Metagenomics 235,000
- Pharmacogenomics 324,000
Based on the Google Scholar hits, transcriptomics is one of the more important omics fields, and Transcriptome can represent that in the VA list. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Seems important enough. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Chatbots are one of the primary applications of generative AI models, but they have a long history. They started long before gen AI entered the spotlight, and have been used in customer support for a long time.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- I'm finding chatbots to be too circumcised to customer support. The Blue Rider 16:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: Would ChatGPT not be a chatbot? QuicoleJR (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Is it? Oh. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: Would ChatGPT not be a chatbot? QuicoleJR (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Remove Internet Explorer
Considering that we removed Netscape which used to be a common browser, this browser should probably go, which was also a common browser, but diminished in popularity. Interstellarity (talk) 15:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 15:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Swap with Netscape; we should have at least one historical web browser. The Blue Rider 16:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support, I don't know we really need any specific browsers in the tech section (the differences are either highly-technical or branding). If there's historical interest, History of the web browser or Browser wars seem better. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- IE has 90 interwikis; Netscape Navigator has 48. Page views are 997-463. Vileplume (talk) 19:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- We should keep at least one of these legacy browsers and IE beat Netscape during the first of the Browser Wars. Aurangzebra (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Notorious. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Still too famous.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Significant part of history. starship.paint (RUN) 08:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion
Add skin conditions
These are suggested as vital by User:Zar2gar1 at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/STEM#Add_Medical_uses_of_salicylic_acid. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Man, how did we not already have these. Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Wart
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 13:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for starting up this proposal @Hanif Al Husaini:. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Nevus
More commonly known as moles or birthmarks.
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Dermatitis
"Dermatitis was estimated to affect 245 million people globally in 2015, or 3.34% of the world population. ... In the United States, it affects about 10–30% of people."
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Psoriasis
Frequency is 79.7 million / 2–4%
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Vitiligo
Autoimmune disease that causes loss of skin pigmentation, with Michael Jackson being a famous case.
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
A broad concept relating to information. Place under information technology?
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support outside of Tech, this is really such a general & basic process, I feel almost like it belongs more in Philosophy somewhere. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Escalator to Architectural elements
Common modern invention. 70 interwikis.
- Support
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 16:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- feminist🩸 (talk) 01:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have used them many times. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Common modern invention. 25 interwikis.
- Support
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:17, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I use moving walkways every day on my commute. feminist🩸 (talk) 01:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Meh, I've only seen it at airports; not that widespread. The Blue Rider 16:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- In certain countries they are also present in train stations, ski resorts, and large departmental stores such as supermarkets, article backs that up. starship.paint (RUN) 08:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per The Blue Rider. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 21:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
A common mode of travel. Place under Transport?
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 01:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Blue Rider 10:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support outside of Tech, such a basic process and can include just walking, seems more like part of Everyday Life. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- It may also fit well under Urban studies and planning, as commuting usually happens to and from urban areas. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom, I like this under Urban studies and planning. Aurangzebra (talk) 04:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Aroma compound 5
Fragrances are a major product.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support in Chemistry, even if many are produced artificially. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Fan (machine) 5 to Heating and cooling
76 interwikis. Modern invention used for cooling humans, automobiles and computers.
- Support
- as nom. Should be V4 in my opinion. starship.paint (RUN) 23:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely feminist🩸 (talk) 04:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 09:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Ceiling fan 5 to Heating and cooling
24 interwikis. In hot areas you can find this in homes, workplaces, schools and public areas.
- Support
- as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 23:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Anus 5 to Gastrointestinal tract
We list most parts of the gastrointestinal tract, but not its end.
- Support
- as nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Obvious oversight. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely Aurangzebra (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- I am extremely surprised. starship.paint (RUN) 07:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wondering now if need to give the whole anatomy list a once-over and check all of the systems for missing parts. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Human anus 5 is listed, which may explain why this isn't yet. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Food processing
Add Food processing 5
A very common process worldwide between farms and supermarkets. The parent topic of articles like Pasteurization 4 and Slaughterhouse 5.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Strong support. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 00:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Should be listed. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
A common process worldwide in the production of various foods, such as Beer 4 and Chocolate 4.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- If we have the slots, I especially like the idea of adding more processes to tech. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Projection screen 5
A common type of Display device 5, especially in large-scale applications.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Should Video projector be listed instead? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why not both? starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Projector 5 is already listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Digital video 5
We list multiple digital video file formats but not the parent concept
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- With this added, wondering if we could even trim the list of specific file formats. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would support that. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add various graph types
Add box plot
Common form to represent data. The Blue Rider 16:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nom. We should definitely also be adding bar chart, scatter plot, pie chart etc. In fact, I'm going to hijack this thread a bit to add these as well. Good catch. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 01:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
I still support all of these, but presumably we want to keep all data-viz stuff with Statistics under Mathematics, which is already over quota. I can think up some batch removals, but I still think we need to discuss grabbing more slots for Math on the main Level 5 talk-page. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely. I can also look into some potential removals in Math. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
(Not OP) Add bar chart
Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. High-importance on Wikiproject Statistics Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh wow, I assumed these were already on the list since they are even more essential. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
(Not OP) Add pie chart
Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. 41 interwikis, the most of any type of graph as far as I'm aware. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
(Not OP) Add scatter plot
Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. High-importance on Wikiproject Statistics. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
(Not OP) Add histogram
Top-importance in Wikiproject Statistics. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Fad diet
A common way to achieve Weight loss 4.
- Support
- Oppose
- Let's add Fad 5 first. feminist🩸 (talk) 10:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- A bit too specific variant of Dieting 4 in my opinion. Only 5 interwikis, merely OK pageviews at ~280 daily.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 11:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss
Remove Arthur Kill Bridge
No indication of architectural, economic, or cultural importance.
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support 10th least viewed Technology article according to the list I posted here.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:29, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- J947 ‡ edits 10:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 13:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 01:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Atlantic cod 5
It was fished so much that in 1992, Northern Cod populations fell to 1% of historical levels (Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery).
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Massively important commercially --Makkool (talk) 17:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Very important in the representation of information.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Should be V4. starship.paint (RUN) 12:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Physical object 5
Important concept.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Least squares
Most common way to do a Regression analysis 4. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Neutral for now because it is very important but I feel like it is sufficiently covered in the article for Linear regression 5 already. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- One is the estimation the other is the model, I think these two differ significantly. The Blue Rider 21:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: Yes and I'm saying that the article for the linear regression model has a full section for the linear least squares estimation method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression#Estimation_methods. Considering the fact that least squares is pretty much only used for regression, we don't need to include a separate article whose important aspects are covered by this one (and on the nonlinear side, we already list Non-linear least squares 5). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Aurangzebra: - given that Non-linear least squares exists, least squares is not wholly covered by linear regression. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Starship.paint: I didn't include that because the specific article for it is already VA5: Non-linear least squares 5. I think I would support a swap between the two though (non-linear least squares for the more general least squares). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- One is the estimation the other is the model, I think these two differ significantly. The Blue Rider 21:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Roman roads
Backbone to the Roman Empire.
- Support
- SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- All roads lead to Rome; nice catch. The Blue Rider 22:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a good one. J947 ‡ edits 04:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:51, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add U.S. Route 66
We don’t have any individual roads, and probably don’t need to, but I think this road is iconic enough to warrant discussion.
- Support
- SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- The most famous highway in the country. There are entire museums dedicated to it. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
- Does Route 66 have any historical importance? For instance, did people used the route during the territorial expansion of the US? The Blue Rider 23:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- It’s the first highway in the US to be fully paved. A lot of people used it to move to the West, especially a bunch of Okies escaping the Dust Bowl 4. Again though, I’m mostly suggesting it because of how famous it is. SailorGardevoir (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Tilikum (orca)
Tilikum, a captive orca linked to three human deaths, symbolizes debates on animal captivity ethics and fostered awareness about animal welfare. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- SailorGardevoir (talk) 10:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
A common type of structure for recreational uses.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 03:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:43, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Two coefficients and one fallacy
Variance 4 helps understand the spread of a sample, but its value alone may not provide much insight. This is where the coefficient of determination comes into play. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Covariance 4 helps understand how two variables change together, but its value alone doesn't show the relationship's strength or direction. That's where the coefficient of correlation comes in. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
In fields like economics and statistics, it's vital to remember this fallacy. Recognizing this distinction is crucial for accurate data interpretation and analysis. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Used to make foods such as gummy candy, marshmallows, ice creams, dips, and yogurts.
- Support
- As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Also interesting from a religious perspective. Aurangzebra (talk) 01:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- feminist🩸 (talk) 12:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Would prefer this over the already nominated Gelatin dessert 5. Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 13:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Hot spring 5
A common geological feature which has been used for recreation and therapy for thousands of years. A subtopic of Spring (hydrology) 4.
- Support
- As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per nominator. The Blue Rider 12:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- --Makkool (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 22:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
More well-known and much busier airport. Interstellarity (talk) 18:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Interstellarity (talk) 18:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Swap with Layover, which is what Anchorage Airport was known for – it’s primarily used as a refueling point for cargo (and during the Cold War, passenger) flights between North America (and to some extent Northern Europe) and Asia. DFW isn’t particularly known for anything other than being the largest hub of American Airlines 5. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose addition. I think we should greatly reduce the number of airports we list. In fact I’m not convinced individual airports are vital. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose addition. Not the best candidate to replace Stevens Airport. See below.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
- The U.S. is overrepresented and there’s more to vitality of an airport than yearly emplanements. Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 18:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @OhnoitsvileplumeXD: I agree with you on that point since we have five airports from the US, but no more than three for other countries. I think a straight removal would be more justified over a swap. I would be fine with removing Ted Stevens and removing a second US airport, though have no opinion on which one should be removed just yet. Interstellarity (talk) 19:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- ANC is important as an international cargo hub and for its strategic location near the Arctic Circle. I think we should increase airport representation and cut one from the US. I’ll probably support its inclusion eventually, but I’m neutral for now. Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 20:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @OhnoitsvileplumeXD: I agree with you on that point since we have five airports from the US, but no more than three for other countries. I think a straight removal would be more justified over a swap. I would be fine with removing Ted Stevens and removing a second US airport, though have no opinion on which one should be removed just yet. Interstellarity (talk) 19:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would prefer a swap for Memphis International Airport, which has been the world's busiest Cargo airport for many different years. For 2 hours a day it is the world's busiest hourly airport in the world because Fedex has special permissions for truncated plane spacing (based on WP:OR conversations I had with a Pilot while in Memphis).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- See below.
- User:Interstellarity, if you agree with my logic below, please withdraw this nomination before it has any supports.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:22, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I will remain neutral for now. I haven’t developed an opinion on what should and should not be included for airports or what determines vitality for airports whether passenger or cargo, but I would be open to supporting your swap below and hearing everyone’s arguments on what should happen. Interstellarity (talk) 21:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Because Fedex world headquarters is in Memphis and this airport is the Fedex Superhub, it has been the world's busiest cargo airport many years, including 1993 to 2009 and 2020-??. World's second busiest cargo airport 2010-2019. Based on conversations, that I have had with a pilot (pure WP:OR) Memphis is the world's busiest airport for 2 hours a day because in the wee hours of the night Fedex uses the airport exclusively and has permission for tighter flight spacing than is normal.
- Support
- -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support removal per my comment in the DFW nomination. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Until ANC's location becomes more strategic. Vileplume 🍋🟩 (talk) 15:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose addition, I don’t think Cargo airport is notable enough as a concept for us to list an example of it as vital. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Discussion
Wastewater produced from domestic use. Sewage treatment 4 is level 4.
- Support
- As nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 10:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Per my general support for adding enduring society-wide concepts. feminist🩸 (talk) 01:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Neutral
- Discussion
Add Earth's crust 5
Add under Geology: General. It was separated into its own article from Crust (geology) 4 in 2019. 100 interwikis, and rated High-importance in Wikiproject Geology.
- Support
- As nom. Makkool (talk) 10:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 10:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 10:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- feminist🩸 (talk) 01:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Discuss
Add Tamandua and Mara (mammal)
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_12 this article was removed, it was replaced by Megalonyx though no rationale was given for the addition other than personal opinion. Considering we are under quota and this is a widespread and behaviourally unique group of anteaters which is also decently common in captivity I think it deserves a place at this level. Maras are a widespread rodent in southern Patagonia that are also extremely widespread in captivity, considering we list other less known rodents from the region such as viscacha it would make sense to include the mara as well.
Support
1. as nom Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
Discuss Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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